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Why should we update?

Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!

fRenZy-_- said:
Why should we update? Did the phone get faster in terms of lock screen, the finger print scanner get better? ...etc Post it here!
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because motorola told you to.

much better SQ out of headphone jack

justdrew said:
much better SQ out of headphone jack
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is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?

****ing awesome battery life!

fRenZy-_- said:
is there anymore lag on the lockscreen, like you dont have to slide twice?
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out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.

aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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aszrael1266 said:
out of 10 times I only had to slid my finger twice once. The finger print reader scans much better now also. Battery life has gone up. Screen brightness has increased along with sharpness of pics. The pics I've transfered to my phone I took with my dslr looked washed out before. Now they look exactly like they should. Touch screen is more responsive now I think its a good and bad thing. I get more accidental selects now due to it.
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I did initially think the camera was crap until I viewed its pictures on my PC, so I know what you're talking about. But... would software really be able to save the natural crappiness of AMOLED PenTile?

Sofware could fix this and the atrix is not AMOLED just pentile
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Is the update still only available to beta testers?
From all the posts it makes it seem it is available for anyone though a check for updates does nothing for me.

Personally, I would caution everyone before updating. There are numerous issues behind the scenes that need to be worked out. Can not divulge details, but I would personally wait until it has been tested further.

seh6183 said:
Are you over exaggeraring? Be honest. Because if this is the case, I may be willing to give up root for it.
Your telling me that the camera and screen quality is better? Are you certain that the lock screen slider is much more responsive?
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Sorry one more thing. Do you think the new added responsiveness only applies to blur? Im using launcher pro, do you think that would become more responsive? Thanks
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I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.

aszrael1266 said:
I've never used blur on my phone. The first app I put on it as soon as it was opened was luncher pro so I can't say how blur acts now. Its not the camera that has improved its the display of the phone. I do believe it can be done by software by adjusting the phones display (I.E. changing gama and other little behind the scenes things to make colors stand out more)
From what I know the update should be pushed out today. It does take some time and I thought my phone froze up while updating but it just takes time after the phones its first reboot so be patient. As far as brightness goes having it turned down as low as it can get its still brighter then it was before at 20-30%. I use to keep the phone at about 15-20% and now with it turned down as much as I can get it, it is still brighter then before.
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Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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So the update will be "pushed" to the phones automatically if not rooted? Our does it need to be downloaded from MOTO...?
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If I do the update I my phone wont reset right? Ill keep all my apps and settings?
Never live in the past but always learn from it.

seh6183 said:
Is there a time frame I should be worried about here? Im rooted, have the webtop hack, and the adeo rom. Do I need to put all this back to stock before a certain time or ill miss out on the update?
The only thing I would be sacrificing is root. I am new to android, in your guys experience, how long does it take for updates to get rooted after they are released. I just don't think I want to give up root yet because I enjoy freezing all this CRAP that moto put on the phone.
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If you're not up to date and you do a system update check, if there is any new updates, it should finded it. But as far as I know, the updates will be there if your phone is not up to date...
Rooting an update depends on the dev community backing the phone has, i.e. Droid X, which I had, updates were basically rooted within a day or so, look at the DX with the just released GB, it has a method for rooting already... and this phone doesn't look like it has as much dev backing, so it can take a while..
If you've done mods to your phone, and you try to update and it fails, it's most likey the mods are the ones stoping the updates, as it does checks on certain system files that need to match..

The update sounds great but I think ill wait for everyone to experiment with it first, then when the root comes out ill make the jump. Sounds like a lot of things that bothered me are fixed though. Too bad I can't grab it yet
I honestly probably would, im just scared as hell to try and remove these Adeo nods. The process looks involved. And I think I even read something that said wifi could break? Scary stuff
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I've done the update, retaining my root, and can confirm the phone is fast as hell. Use these guides:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991072
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12540398#post12540398
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I don't know how many here use swype, but I do, and i have seen a much better word recognition after the update. And i have kept root.

I think 4.1.26 is better. can easy be rooted and faster,I think.

Screen Wobble/Battery Consumption (Xperia Play User Comparison)

Hi Yall
Ive had the xperia play for around 2 weeks now and loving it but seeing as im pretty particular about my new gadgets im just wondering if my xperia play is the same as everyone elses.
Ive basically got only a couple queries which are:
1. How is your screen wobble when the slider is opened and closed?
With mine, when the slider is closed there is a slight gap between the gamepad and the screen so when you use the touch screen (for smsing etc) you can here the tapping of the screen on the gamepad.
When the slider is open on the other hand the same thing happens but only on the bottom 2 corners of the screen you can push them slightly down onto the gamepad with slight movement.
2. How is your battery usage/life?
With mine, I basically get 1 or 1.5 days battery life depending on what I am doing but I cant help notice that even with little things such as sending a quick sms or simply going through the phones settings will actually eat 1% or 2% of the battery life. This normal?
Lastly, im new to android as I have recently switched from the iphone so when im looking at the stock android app killer thats built into the device under the applications section. What is actually using the battery? As you go the the running apps part its got used and free application that show up. are both of these eating the battery or is it just the used ones?
Thank You in advance and thanks for comparing.

this has been discussed over and over again, please use search first before posting.
Anyway, Markus (developer I think) from Sony Ericsson confirmed the "LITTLE" wobble and small gap when closed is normal. That is in accordance to their design engineers' wants to allow users to have a good feel when using the gaming device. As with any side-slider phones, THIS IS NORMAL.
Regarding the battery, that is just fine. You are actually getting the juice out of it. Period. I had mine rooted and bloatware removed, but the difference in battery consumption against non-rooted didn't vary a lot. So I reverted back to NO BLOATWARE REMOVED (but still rooted though) to preserve my ability to update via OTA in the future and it's working just fine. I believe the phone is managing itself very well so there's no need for us to be doing a lot of tweaks that could be potentially dangerous. And oh, I believe you're already on 2.3.3 because on 2.3.2 the battery won't even last a day. Mine lasts a maximum of 35 hours on 2.3.3 with moderate use, 4-5 hours on straight gaming.
EDIT: Never use third-party App Killers/Task Managers! I read somewhere legit that they will just screw up your phone. Android phones are way better off with spiking memory usages because that's the time when the phone starts to manage itself actually. Remember, devs and engineers will never release a device that cannot manage itself. Love your device! Love it even more if it's in stock condition!

If you want speed, memory and more battery then do this
Batteryurchase juice defender ultimate, it's absolutely wonderful and ACTUALLY works. With root it saved me x1.50 on battery, without root it saved me x2. 0
Install memory booster, qwik boost and task killer will free up RAM and stop battery consumption for a few minutes.
Speed: unlocking bootloader and then rooting, installing titanium backup and removing bloatware, uninstalling useless apps and freezing will make it noticibly fast. You can also use. SETCPU for extended battery and faster performance. And SD speed increase
For more speed and precision , flash doomkernel
That will catapult your battery to 10 hours, and will get you to another day.
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Ok Guys
So has anyone got any fixes to make the device have no wobble at all? Tell us your story or innovations.

Cat_On_Droid said:
Install memory booster, qwik boost and task killer
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There really is no need to install these, they do more harm than good, its explained loads on XDA.
KoolMoeDee KMD said:
Ok Guys
So has anyone got any fixes to make the device have no wobble at all? Tell us your story or innovations.
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It is normal for the Play to have a slight wobble!
If you really want to inprove it you can use two of those little sticky pad things from the bottom of a mouse (no, not a real mouse, a pc mouse!), place them on the back of the Play while the screen is up, it stops it wobbling, there is a thread about it somewhere on here.

like i said in my post, that is normal. why fix something that is normal?

I just dont like the slight wobble, thats all
Its one of those things that eat at your very soul over time lol

then there's nothing we can do about that. no one's bothered about that here anyway.

So is anyone also experiencing one shoulder button being looser than the other?

FK1983 said:
There really is no need to install these, they do more harm than good, its explained loads on XDA.
It is normal for the Play to have a slight wobble!
If you really want to inprove it you can use two of those little sticky pad things from the bottom of a mouse (no, not a real mouse, a pc mouse!), place them on the back of the Play while the screen is up, it stops it wobbling, there is a thread about it somewhere on here.
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i wrote it wrong.Memory boosters features include ;Qwick Boost and Kill Running apps.ITs all in 1 APP. And it checks your free memory.
Thats what i meant.

Cat_On_Droid said:
i wrote it wrong.Memory boosters features include ;Qwick Boost and Kill Running apps.ITs all in 1 APP. And it checks your free memory.
Thats what i meant.
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Either way anything that kills apps is bad. I used to do it religiously on my old Droid, and then I read that article and said hey lets just give it a shot. Well it took a while (like a couple days) for the phone to catch up but it actually started to run BETTER and less stuff was crashing and force closing.
I still have Advanced task killer on my phone, but I use it for one thing only, to kill apps that screw up but don't Force Close (generally Facebook because that app is a piece of ****e....)

there's an article (legit one) i read somewhere saying app killers and advanced task managers plus battery calibration apps are actually dangerous to android phones. after all, android does memory spooling, so it manages its RAM on its own and we don't want to mess with that. as i always say, why intervene with something that's working properly? engineers made their phones act properly without / minimal management, so why bother?

KoolMoeDee KMD said:
I just dont like the slight wobble, thats all
Its one of those things that eat at your very soul over time lol
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Lol know what you meen, those small things, kind of ocd behavior Mine is rock steady no wobble here.
KoolMoeDee KMD said:
So is anyone also experiencing one shoulder button being looser than the other?
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My R is slightly looser, but that's from gaming on it.
Regards Dousan...
Old school name you've got there from when hip hop was underground and not comercial as it is today

Cat_On_Droid said:
i wrote it wrong.Memory boosters features include ;Qwick Boost and Kill Running apps.ITs all in 1 APP. And it checks your free memory.
Thats what i meant.
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Ahh ok, Sorry!

Screen wobble is barely noticeable, battery life is amazing.

narflynn619 said:
there's an article (legit one) i read somewhere saying app killers and advanced task managers plus battery calibration apps are actually dangerous to android phones. after all, android does memory spooling, so it manages its RAM on its own and we don't want to mess with that. as i always say, why intervene with something that's working properly? engineers made their phones act properly without / minimal management, so why bother?
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There is quite a good aricle on lifehacker that says all about the native memory management and why task killers are useless

Yes tasks managers are quite useless for Android.In fact, it is known to screw up some programs or functions because of closing the wrong programs.That being said i'm using the one that came with go launcher.
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Deoxlar said:
Yes tasks managers are quite useless for Android.In fact, it is known to screw up some programs or functions because of closing the wrong programs.That being said i'm using the one that came with go launcher.
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When i was using GO launcher, i had a nasty habbit of using the one in the app draw every time i opened it
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk

You can stick a teflon mouse skate at the back of the screen just behind the home button. It won't completely eliminate wobble but it makes it a lot more stable when pressing any of the face buttons or texting.

When a task killer kills apps, most of them just restart. If you want it to be truly effective, you need to have root, titanium pro, and freeze them.
Plus, task killers use extra CPU and ram, resulting in more power being used. They just keep killing apps repeatedly and eat your battery.
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Let's Rant!

Here we can rant about our beautiful new smartphones to hopefully relieve some stress. Sound good? I'll begin.
For starters, I hate the framrate issues that occur too often for a phone with 2GBs of RAM! Clearing a recent app, hitting the home button, or opening up messages always gives me an annoying st-stutt-ter that simply should'nt be ther. I also hate that it is impossible to access your internal storage from a Mac or Linux based computer? Really? I can plug a cheap $10 mp3 device from the 1930's, drag and drop some music and be good to go. Also, what is up with pop-up? pop-out? play?! Why can it only be used (for my knowledge) with videos that are saved onto the phone?! AND how can I put them on the phone with my Mac?! URGH, I can choose between 16, 32, or 64 GBs BUT I still need an SD card to put basic media on my phone? I also don't like how you can't change the shortcuts on the lockscreen, the phone has 8 different main colors between TouchWiz, ICS, and the Nature UX, I originally made this thread on my phone but got a text and tried to go back into Chrome and my text disappeared, AND how they took the AutoText? feature out of TouchWiz (when you can make your phone automatically substitute "sm" into a smiley face or whatever else you want to configure AKA the thing I liked most about TouchWiz). WOW, *takes a deep breath* I feel better. What would you like to rant about?!
P.S. I LOOOOVVVVEEEE my phone though, it just has some slightly annoying kinks (just like every other phone).

Settings > security > lock screen options > shortcuts. There you can change the lock screen shortcuts or get rid of them altogether.
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Zoidpilot said:
Settings > security > lock screen options > shortcuts. There you can change the lock screen shortcuts or get rid of them altogether.
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+1

Why do you have a MAC? Lol
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ImARaptor said:
Here we can rant about our beautiful new smartphones to hopefully relieve some stress. Sound good? I'll begin.
Also, what is up with pop-up? pop-out? play?! Why can it only be used (for my knowledge) with videos that are saved onto the phone?!
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I know! This is such a huge letdown. I went into a T-Mobile store today to test it out and was disappointed because I wanted to watch youtube videos while I multitask. In another thread, a person said it is possible use pop-up play with streaming online videos as long as you play with a stock video player.
Have you tried that?

rickstermar555 said:
I know! This is such a huge letdown. I went into a T-Mobile store today to test it out and was disappointed because I wanted to watch youtube videos while I multitask. In another thread, a person said it is possible use pop-up play with streaming online videos as long as you play with a stock video player.
Have you tried that?
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I have not ever been given the choice to what player I would like to use except for once on a facebook video someone uploaded and it DID work but other than that it does not allow me to use this on YouTube videos. :/ maybe someone could help? I can try to mess with YouTube real quick.
Update: nope, still couldn't get it to work and I tried both the mobile sight and the youtube app. Different settings, longclick on the video etc. Oh wells

I love the feel of the phone, the battery life, the WiFi speeds, the display, and the speed, but...
The noise on the headphone jack is distracting and awful. Like, making me wish I had bought the Galaxy Nexus bad.
The Bluetooth range for my headsets appears to be about half that of my Vibrant. I used to be able to leave my phone on the counter and wander from room to room, but now it needs to be in my pocket. (To be fair, I haven't tried it with Power Saving off yet.)

How do I.....
Remove labels under the icons on the home screens?
Remove the page indicator?
Reorder bookmarks and get the reorder to stick in the stock browser?
I want to stick with TouchWiz and stay close to stock for now. I understand other launchers can do what I want, but I don't want to change for now.
Thanks!

jcbofkc said:
I want to stick with TouchWiz and stay close to stock for now. I understand other launchers can do what I want, but I don't want to change for now.
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I'm not aware of any TouchWiz settings that are user-configurable. (I don't want to discount Samsung making configurable options that could be set with the installation of a configuration program.)
Out of curiosity, what do you like about the TouchWiz launcher that you don't want to give up?

ImARaptor said:
Here we can rant about our beautiful new smartphones to hopefully relieve some stress. Sound good? I'll begin.
For starters, I hate the framrate issues that occur too often for a phone with 2GBs of RAM! Clearing a recent app, hitting the home button, or opening up messages always gives me an annoying st-stutt-ter that simply should'nt be ther. I also hate that it is impossible to access your internal storage from a Mac or Linux based computer? Really? I can plug a cheap $10 mp3 device from the 1930's, drag and drop some music and be good to go. Also, what is up with pop-up? pop-out? play?! Why can it only be used (for my knowledge) with videos that are saved onto the phone?! AND how can I put them on the phone with my Mac?! URGH, I can choose between 16, 32, or 64 GBs BUT I still need an SD card to put basic media on my phone? I also don't like how you can't change the shortcuts on the lockscreen, the phone has 8 different main colors between TouchWiz, ICS, and the Nature UX, I originally made this thread on my phone but got a text and tried to go back into Chrome and my text disappeared, AND how they took the AutoText? feature out of TouchWiz (when you can make your phone automatically substitute "sm" into a smiley face or whatever else you want to configure AKA the thing I liked most about TouchWiz). WOW, *takes a deep breath* I feel better. What would you like to rant about?!
P.S. I LOOOOVVVVEEEE my phone though, it just has some slightly annoying kinks (just like every other phone).
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I haven't tried dragging and dropping mp3 files directly onto the phone yet but I did try the Samsung Kies software and it worked fine.

Anyone notice the phone getting warmer than usual, not hot but just enough to become uncomfortable, i am coming from a skyrocket and did not have the same issue, i thought the s4 was supposed to run cooler however the lower half of the phone seems to get warm doing very light browsing and sometimes doing nothing at all.

BonesHopkins said:
I haven't tried dragging and dropping mp3 files directly onto the phone yet but I did try the Samsung Kies software and it worked fine.
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Dragging and dropping works fine on a Windows machine. Android uses the long-standardized MTP protocol on USB but it seems little work went into support because only the Zune really used it. (Even on Windows, there are a few quirks.)
It's an awesome protocol for what it does and it fits nicely with Google's new unified partition model (you like getting upgrades for your phone and not managing storage space, right?), but this is the proverbial broken egg to make that nice Android omelet.
BlazingBeast7 said:
Anyone notice the phone getting warmer than usual, not hot but just enough to become uncomfortable, i am coming from a skyrocket and did not have the same issue, i thought the s4 was supposed to run cooler however the lower half of the phone seems to get warm doing very light browsing and sometimes doing nothing at all.
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My phone gets warm in bright areas almost certainly as a result of the screen power usage. Is the phone plugged in? It gets warm on the lower half while charging, too.

Voltage Spike said:
I'm not aware of any TouchWiz settings that are user-configurable. (I don't want to discount Samsung making configurable options that could be set with the installation of a configuration program.)
Out of curiosity, what do you like about the TouchWiz launcher that you don't want to give up?
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It's kinda silly, but I like the stock clock and weather on the home screen. I also like some of the widgets, especially the calender. I have purchased several alternative in the past that I could use, but the calender is a biggie for me. I have tried many of them and none of them quite hit the mark, for me anyway.
I have tried many launchers. Go Launcher is the only one I have not played with in depth. I may give it a try tonight. I really like ADWex but the lack of a nice calender bothers me. I used smooth calender with it, but I really like the TouchWiz calender.
Always open to ideas. Thanks.

yea most phones get warm when plugged in but this one seems to be getting warm while not on the charger and also while not being strained too much at all. Maybe i got a lemon but id like to hear other owners experiences. I will be exchanging it regardless but when you pay this much stupid issues like that should be resolved before launch.

jnad32 said:
Why do you have a MAC? Lol
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Oh come on now
He could have gotten it from work for all we know. The point is, there's an issue with the phone and mac compatibility that he pointed out. It's no help to lulz at him for using a nice computer.
I, for one, would be a bit concerned as well.

Your android and your mac dont like each other imagine that
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ImARaptor said:
I also hate that it is impossible to access your internal storage from a Mac or Linux based computer? Really? I can plug a cheap $10 mp3 device from the 1930's, drag and drop some music and be good to go. Also, what is up with pop-up? pop-out? play?! Why can it only be used (for my knowledge) with videos that are saved onto the phone?! AND how can I put them on the phone with my Mac?! URGH, I can choose between 16, 32, or 64 GBs BUT I still need an SD card to put basic media on my phone?
P.S. I LOOOOVVVVEEEE my phone though, it just has some slightly annoying kinks (just like every other phone).
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Go to android.com/filetransfer/ and download the app. Open the app, then connect your phone to your mac. Bring down the notification bar and click on the USB connection. Change it to connect as camera and it will work. You'll then have access to the internal filesystem as well as the sd card.

BlazingBeast7 said:
Anyone notice the phone getting warmer than usual, not hot but just enough to become uncomfortable, i am coming from a skyrocket and did not have the same issue, i thought the s4 was supposed to run cooler however the lower half of the phone seems to get warm doing very light browsing and sometimes doing nothing at all.
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this.
it does annoy me that this phone gets warm so easily.
the flip side to that, is it is very thin towards the bottom, the heat has to escape some type of way tho. It is a powerful core in a very thin body.

Success100 said:
this.
it does annoy me that this phone gets warm so easily.
the flip side to that, is it is very thin towards the bottom, the heat has to escape some type of way tho. It is a powerful core in a very thin body.
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Lmao! You guys must have been spoiled! I picked up my razr maxx running eclipse rom( no bloat) and on wifi it got scorching hot. This phone is way cooler!
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benefit14snake said:
Lmao! You guys must have been spoiled! I picked up my razr maxx running eclipse rom( no bloat) and on wifi it got scorching hot. This phone is way cooler!
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LOL TBH, my phone hasn't gotten any type of hot. However, I've been swamped with homework so I havent been able to superuse it (pun intended ) quite yet.
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[Q] Nexus 4 Random Power Off

As the title states. Nexus 4 random power offs. Has anyone seen anything like this?
Here is the background info:
My parents have Nexus 4 phones as do I. All of our phones were ordered at the same time about 2 months or so ago when they became available again. All phones are the 16GB version. All phones bone stock with just OTA updates, not unlocked or rooted other than how they are shipped. All using T-Mobile prepaid plans.
My phone and my father's seem fine. My mom's however seems to shutdown on its own. It is random. Initially I thought that it may be an issue where she isn't used to a smart phone and isn't charging it enough. It happens though at times while it is connected to the charger. It also has happened while carrying it off the charger.
One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
I have been around android since the G1 days and run the same phone. I can't think of a setting on the phone that would power it down at a certain time or period of time. She really doesn't have much for apps and is a very light user.
Not sure what to try but I was thinking about doing a wipe of the phone to see if it helps.
Anyone else have any ideas? If the wipe doesn't help the only other thing I can think of is that there is a physical issue with the phone.
I haven't seen this on my phone but there was a period of time where HD Widgets on my N7 would cause a reboot. That was fixed with an app update. This isn't a case where the device reboots. It is a complete shutdown which I find odd. So I have seen an app cause issues kind of like this. For the most part the apps that she has on her phone, I also have on mine. Well I have way more but there really isn't anything on her phone that I am not also running.
I should add that she has the phone in a TPU case. As we all do. My case design is a little different than theirs but they have cutouts for the buttons. So it isn't a case where the case is pressing on the power button. That could be an issue with my case as it covers the power button but I haven't had that issue.
Thanks

Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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BigDig said:
Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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That is what I am kind of thinking. Either the battery or the smart battery chips. I think I will try a wipe first but like I said but it is odd.

sennister said:
One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.

amartolos said:
That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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I don't want to root and have my mom run a modified ROM. They live about a half hour from me so I haven't tried a wipe of the phone yet and because of the distance I don't want to deal with the issues that sometimes come up when you go with modified ROMs when I am not there. She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things. I have to get some time to run over there and take a look at it. Maybe later next week.
I was just wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I think if a wipe doesn't help I will talk to Google. A search really didn't show much other than some people that were seeing a random reboot issue. I have seen apps doing that.
I have been through their warranty replacement process and it is a bit of a PITA. I am on my 3rd Nexus 7 due to hardware issues with the first 2. My N4 and my fathers have been rock solid.
While I have run custom ROMs in the past, I usually run stock until I find a need that requires me to root. Eventually I will probably root and go with a custom ROM on my N4 but

sennister said:
She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:

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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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amartolos said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:
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Hmm. That is a good idea. The PITA part would be to get everything loaded from my phone to hers. I really wish I could run Titanium backup without root as it would make it super easy to move the apps over. Though I don't have that much loaded on my phone. Things that are a pain to set up have configuration export methods like Tasker. It would rule out the end user being the source of the issue. I don't think that is it though. If we swap and it goes away, then I can consider the wipe as the solution. If the problem moves to me then it is a physical issue and call Google. If the problem persists with her, I load all her apps on the phone I carry as well to see if I start to have the issue or it becomes a training issue. The thing I like about this the most is that it is a clear process to rule out several things. I can go over there and sit with the phone but if it doesn't power off when I am there I don't gain much other than spending some time with my parents.
I don't think this is an issue but I did have to provide my IMEI# when doing the activations. In the past though on T-Mobile I have handed phones down to others and all we did was a SIM swap. I would imagine that is the case here.
Oh and one thing I did leave out. They were using their old cell phone chargers on the N4 phones. I told them to swap chargers and use the ones that came with the phone. The old ones may not put out enough power and the phone could in theory run down to the point where it shuts off and slowly charge from that point and I don't think it would turn back on. Keep in mind a retired user who just had a knee replacement so she is at home more often than not.

Did you find out the cause? I have the same issue happened twice today

The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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noodles2224 said:
The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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So you're saying it's a software issue?

Looks like it.. Turning off optimization or not even using WiFi at all worked..
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ZGPAX Smart Watch

I found this model can be purchased for aliexpress.
what think?
http://armdevices.net/2013/10/14/zgpax-smart-watch-mt6577-95-bulk/

adonleice said:
I found this model can be purchased for aliexpress.
what think?
http://armdevices.net/2013/10/14/zgpax-smart-watch-mt6577-95-bulk/
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I'm actually going to purchase one here shortly.... curious to see if it can run 3rd party launchers well with smaller homescreen grids. They need to create a seperate thread for this !

hi you can do a review thanks

looks interesting, would like to know if it's a good companion watch, with a decent amount of watch faces

adonleice said:
hi you can do a review thanks
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JarlSX said:
looks interesting, would like to know if it's a good companion watch, with a decent amount of watch faces
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Just got it in... trying to root and all that.. but it's AWESOME! 100% Cool as hell. trying to find a comptible launcher and such.
***EDIT UPDATE*** so ADW i have working VERY smooth... eats up a little more memory though so loooking around for launcherpro and other small ram users
***EDIT UPDATE 2 **** have rooted the device using Framaroot... superuser works... already using root tools great

hi BigBison420
oh it looks nice, where did you buy it? hot time the shipping?the battery works well?a lot of thanks

adonleice said:
hi BigBison420
oh it looks nice, where did you buy it? hot time the shipping?the battery works well?a lot of thanks
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get it from eCrater.com from Tech Direct i believe it's called... it will be $177 total (including shipping) but i got mine in 3 days.... I ordered Thursday of last week Very good seller
I have been emailing manufacturer's because they are apparently working on software to use with the device to pair to the phones. There are no current apps that utilize call handling from Phone to Watch so the device is more of a standalone device for now. Plays videos, good camera, touch functionality is good, it got a little bit hot while i was runing ADW launcher so i uninstalled that... stock launcher runs fine. Charges fast - FM radio feature is pretty damn cool however you have to use stock headphone it comes with as antenna, they plug in via micro usb. Overall great build quality... Looks like an HTC One LOL

Looks good
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hi how many hours work the battery thanks

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hi how many hours work the battery thanks
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In the video, the person said that the battery will last 1 and 1/2 days. (Not a China dude but I still understand their Singlish)
Btw the battery life is probably the same for other similar smart watches unless they have battery tweaks like the Qualcomm toq and the pebble smart watch which reduces or fully disables touchscreen and colour

Well the battery life i don't know because i haven't killed it yet..... The battery meter goes up and down QUITE a bit though so i can't get a real good read on the battery gauge, which is kind of frustrating...
So far i've rooted and changed the boot animation with rom toolbox pro. I cannot get the stock lock screen clock and launcher to go away tho, even after changing the filenames in /System/App which leaves me boggled. I am running ADW and a large digital clock on my homescreen and would rather unlock to that then the analog clock.

If you guys are interested, i did a quick review of the watch i will upload to youtube tonight and make new thread with video

BigBison420 said:
Well the battery life i don't know because i haven't killed it yet..... The battery meter goes up and down QUITE a bit though so i can't get a real good read on the battery gauge, which is kind of frustrating...
So far i've rooted and changed the boot animation with rom toolbox pro. I cannot get the stock lock screen clock and launcher to go away tho, even after changing the filenames in /System/App which leaves me boggled. I am running ADW and a large digital clock on my homescreen and would rather unlock to that then the analog clock.
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Thinking of buying this at Chinavasion for £92, Is it worth it and did you manage to do a review, Many thanks

Here ya go
http://youtu.be/NgHMAffmk9w
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BigBison420 said:
Here ya go
http://youtu.be/NgHMAffmk9w
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What are its capabilities as far as connecting to a phone

Short review
I just received mine in the mail and must say, I'm pleasantly surprised. Build quality is excellent. The screen is bright and hires enough to be able to read everything. Wifi is stable and quite good, in contrary top most other China devices I have (mostly JXD). Of course the keyboard is a bit cramped and hitting the right letter is a gamble but the screen is sensitive and it doesn't take a strong touch.The interface is very smooth and responsive. I have installed a few apps which work well. The only thing that keeps crashing is Skype, which is weird as it came with the watch. There seems no way to use Google Now either (it keeps crashing) which is a pity as I don't want to even think about searching with the on-screen keyboard. The loudspeaker is okay (not great). I haven't tried using it to call anyone yet, that will be next on my list. I just noticed that the watch doesn't take micro sim cards. That quite surprising for such a small device. Now I'll have to go out and buy a regular sim card. I'm not a big fan of adapters.

singapura said:
I just received mine in the mail and must say, I'm pleasantly surprised. Build quality is excellent. The screen is bright and hires enough to be able to read everything. Wifi is stable and quite good, in contrary top most other China devices I have (mostly JXD). Of course the keyboard is a bit cramped and hitting the right letter is a gamble but the screen is sensitive and it doesn't take a strong touch.The interface is very smooth and responsive. I have installed a few apps which work well. The only thing that keeps crashing is Skype, which is weird as it came with the watch. There seems no way to use Google Now either (it keeps crashing) which is a pity as I don't want to even think about searching with the on-screen keyboard. The loudspeaker is okay (not great). I haven't tried using it to call anyone yet, that will be next on my list. I just noticed that the watch doesn't take micro sim cards. That quite surprising for such a small device. Now I'll have to go out and buy a regular sim card. I'm not a big fan of adapters.
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It looks like a nice device I'm torn between buying this watch or just waiting around for the kickstart project Neptune Pine. Which seems to be a much more polished product

I'm also thinking about getting this or the neptune but the Pine looks so big it will make my already small wrists tiny!
I like the idea of the Pine but think I might go for the ZGPAX....

ShawnnKushh said:
What are its capabilities as far as connecting to a phone
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The thing is that its recognized by bluetooth as a phone so there is file transfer capability but not call handling or notification handling until the manufacturer releases an app to provide support for this... I would advise anyone who purchases to try and contact the manufacturer and get this info. Ive been looking a week now for an app in the store but have found nothing.
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hi bigbison
wait news thanks