[Q] Networking some devices help!! - Networking

OK so i just moved in with my parents for financial reasone and need some help figuring this out. We have comcast internet and a linksys wrt54g router with ddwrt firmware. In the house we have 2 desktops 1 laptop 2 xbox 360s 3 androids and 2 ipod touches. The only one with a ethernet is the desktop where the modem and router is at. everything else is wireless. I have constand dropped connection on my other dekstop and box 360. What is the best way to have the best connection. In my room i have the other desktop and xbox 360. I was thinking of runing an ethernet cable from the router to my room through the attic and to a switch and from the switch my desktop and xbox 360. What do you guys think?

Try changing the channels to avoid interference and try a windsurfer
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Another possible option rather than running CAT5 around the house would be mains power networking.
For instance my router is upstairs with my PC and UPS running off it.
It connects to a mains network adaptor, and then downstairs behind the TV I have another one going to a switch which my WII, BluRay and 360 are connected to.

Well I would run the cat5 up the attic then doen to the room I am in....but a main ...never heard of it...how's it work
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Pixa241 said:
Well I would run the cat5 up the attic then doen to the room I am in....but a main ...never heard of it...how's it work
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_line_communication

xaccers said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_line_communication
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Ok never mind i know what it is now. I just had a different name to it. I have what are called SlingLink Turbo but doesnt work to well either.

Pixa241 said:
Ok never mind i know what it is now. I just had a different name to it. I have what are called SlingLink Turbo but doesnt work to well either.
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Crickey those slinglinks are huge!
I wonder if the different mains voltage over the pond affects their effectiveness.

If the comcast modem is wireless capable, and you can easily take the linksys and set it up as a repeater in the room where you want your desktop, etc and connect using ethernet or wifi in your room. Assuming of course that the dropping issue you have is due to signal strength rather than a router issue.
If you can't move the linksys, grab another off ebay if you don't have another wifi router around that can be flashed so you can use it as a repeater.
Your option for hard wired of course will work. The only issue you may have with a switch and running cat5 is some don't like to work well with long runs. Just a heads up in case you get a cheaper one and plug it in and don't get a connection.

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How to make EVO act as router?

My EVO is rooted with custom Evio 1.5 ROM.
Now my question is, I thought that you could have it so that th EVO acts a wireless hotspot for other devices.
Now, I know that you can have it act as a hotspot and transmit the 3G/4G signal as a rotuer.
BUT, I thought it was possible to make it so the EVO could share the wireless signal that it is connected to, to other devices.
Sorry if this sounds confusing, but I live in an apartment complex with free wifi, but it requires you to open up a browser and it redirects you to a page where you enter some info and it gives you a free "account" to access the internet. Well, my friend wants to go on Xbox Live and well, the 360 does not have a browser to enter the information, thus the wifi blocks his 360.
My EVO picks up the wifi just fine (because it has a browser) so I thought it would be a good idea, to receive the wireless signal and transmit it to his Xbox 360 as a different router but still using Wireless speeds.
I swear that when I was messing around with my EVO that I could share my wireless internet with other devices, but I thought it was a useless tool, because if the device can already connect to WiFi, then why does it need to connect to my EVO. But now, I see a good use for it, but for some reason I cannot figure out how to do it.
3G is a lot slower than our WiFi, and we don't have 4G in Rochester, MN.
Does anyone know if there is a way for the 360 to bypass it, or know how to transmit a wireless signal from the phone and turn it into a router.
Maybe this will help
http://www.videojug.com/webvideo/how-to-get-an-internet-browser-on-an-xbox-360-game-console
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I don't think that it is possible. There is only one wifi radio. Either it is using wifi to be a client, or as the hotspot or tether application a host.
Think that you would need two wifi devices, like a notebook or desktop running wifi and using the ethernet port running Internet sharing plugged into the back of the Xbox using ethernet or possible using ethernet from your PC into a router.
I work for a company that installs systems similar to the one probably being used in your apartment complex. Devices on our system (Nomadix) are authenticated by MAC address. Have you tried to spoof the Xbox's mac address on a computer, sign in to the web and then attempt to connect with the 360?
AFAIK you cannot both connect to an access point and broadcast a signal for another device to connect to. I know that you CAN connect to an access point and USB tether. You can also connect a laptop to the free wifi and share the connection to the xbox with a cat5 cable.
download "wireless tether pre 11" and use it to play xbox live, i used myn the other night for about 5 hours and only burnt through 20 some megs, um if you dont have wifi on your xbox, use a laptop and pic up the signal with it and plug in an ethernet cable to your xbox from your laptop. that will also work, it is a bit slower than your net in your apartment, as i was only getting two to three bars the whole night.
DonutGrunt said:
My EVO is rooted with custom Evio 1.5 ROM.
Now my question is, I thought that you could have it so that th EVO acts a wireless hotspot for other devices.
Now, I know that you can have it act as a hotspot and transmit the 3G/4G signal as a rotuer.
BUT, I thought it was possible to make it so the EVO could share the wireless signal that it is connected to, to other devices.
Sorry if this sounds confusing, but I live in an apartment complex with free wifi, but it requires you to open up a browser and it redirects you to a page where you enter some info and it gives you a free "account" to access the internet. Well, my friend wants to go on Xbox Live and well, the 360 does not have a browser to enter the information, thus the wifi blocks his 360.
My EVO picks up the wifi just fine (because it has a browser) so I thought it would be a good idea, to receive the wireless signal and transmit it to his Xbox 360 as a different router but still using Wireless speeds.
I swear that when I was messing around with my EVO that I could share my wireless internet with other devices, but I thought it was a useless tool, because if the device can already connect to WiFi, then why does it need to connect to my EVO. But now, I see a good use for it, but for some reason I cannot figure out how to do it.
3G is a lot slower than our WiFi, and we don't have 4G in Rochester, MN.
Does anyone know if there is a way for the 360 to bypass it, or know how to transmit a wireless signal from the phone and turn it into a router.
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Spoof your computer mac address to that of you 360. Activate, then connect 360
Or use a laptop to connect to wifi, then a bridge ethernet cable form laptop to xbox.
or you could (insert something that was already said four posts up).
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I work for a company that installs systems similar to the one probably being used in your apartment complex. Devices on our system (Nomadix) are authenticated by MAC address. Have you tried to spoof the Xbox's mac address on a computer, sign in to the web and then attempt to connect with the 360?
AFAIK you cannot both connect to an access point and broadcast a signal for another device to connect to. I know that you CAN connect to an access point and USB tether. You can also connect a laptop to the free wifi and share the connection to the xbox with a cat5 cable.
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Haha, that's hilarious, the service that our apartment uses is Nomadix.
Thanks for the help guys, got it all figured out
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or you could (insert something that was already said four posts up).
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Same thing donut grunt said also, but he said cat5 which is an ethetnet cord, I just said so ppl would understand. But good deal, how did you fix your issue?
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[Q] tether to ps3

OK, I know this is floating around a few places but it doesn't solve the issue without connectify which is a W7 program only. I've rooted, tethered, and would just like to update my newly ps3 software... i'm not concerned about multilayer games through my 3G connection... that can wait till i move this summer for internet..
so... can anybody tell me an XP program and can change the ad hoc to something my PS3 can recognize? I downloaded a virtual router and i have an Ethernet cable...
any help would be very grateful...
thanks,
The PS3 requires Infrastructure mode (as opposed to AdHoc mode) therefore this is your only option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818789&highlight=tether
If you have an XP (or most other OSes) machine within range of the PS3, you could plug the PS3 into the computer via Ethernet, and then connect the computer to the phone via the normal ad-hoc wireless tether, and use Internet Connection Sharing in Windows to share the WiFi connection with the Ethernet.
If you don't have an extra computer handy, the Verizon HotSpot app is currently the only other option, as it runs in Infrastructure mode (somebody should investigate how it triggers that... would be nice to have Wireless Tether/etc support it).
Download pda net off the market.
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thanks for the info guys... i tried a few routes... first off was the PDA net paid version... with not luck.
so then i tried just using my tether in combo with a Ethernet connection and viola... i was updating my ps3. i did have some issues with connection, i'd lose it every ten minutes or so and then it became very unstable so some tweaking would be in order. most likely it's from the Ethernet cable i found in the basement from when i moved in???
I did send an email to the developer of Wireless Tether for rooted fellows and while he does have an option for some phones to connect by infrastructure, the fascinate is "Maybe yes... in the next release" so hopefully we can do this wirelessly in the future in a clean free app.
My xbox 360 finds it. Wireless tether app in market. I play live everyday through my phone
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hbc.ciccone said:
My xbox 360 finds it. Wireless tether app in market. I play live everyday through my phone
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Hmmm... well that makes me wonder...
I would assume that means the 360 can connect via ad hoc... didn't see that one coming...
are there any particular setting on your tether app or anywhere else on your phone that would differ from stock startup?
like i say, the developer noted that the app wouldn't be able to do this wirelessly right now...
I was using barnacle, and read a review on this app where someone commented they used it for halo multiplayer. I dropped what I was doing and tried it, work first try. Maybe its t he xbox, barnacle would not connect to the xbox
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The 360 supports Ad Hoc mode, while the PS3 (for some asinine reason) doesn't (PDA Net would also be useless, since it requires an app running on the machine, IIRC).
I definitely would be quite happy at getting Infrastructure mode in one of the tethering apps, since the Intel wireless in my laptop has absolutely horrible support for Ad Hoc mode (it couldn't even connect before I updated to the latest version... now it just drops it regularly).
I agree... as mentioned above i emailed the dev with tether for root and it sounds like he's working on an infrastructure option for the fas. It already works does on other numerous devices. If i see anything change ya'll be the first to know.

Using Evo 4G with Zoom 4501 Router can you?

Hello all,
Here is my deal and hopefully someone can help.. I have an Evo 4g.. currently I do not have internet in my home (cable started getting to pricey in my area) and have rooted my phone and have been using the wifi tether app. However, I want to also share connection with other devices throughout my home, ie, 2 laptops, 1 desktop, 1 xbox360 so I purchased this Zoom 4501 wireless N router that works with 3G/4G, wifi, cable etc..
Now, I was able to connect my phone to the usb port on the router, go through the setup wizard and and was able to actually get the router up and running however, the only way to do it is by turning on the usb tether option in the settings menu.. it only works on 3G and not 4G.. when I turn on the 4G option, it says that I do have an account with sprint.. is there any other way around this? If anyone can help, let me know thanks!
Yea just steal ur neighbors wireless internet
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Yea just steal ur neighbors wireless internet
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C'mon man.. I'm looking for a legit solution... besides... theirs is encrypted....
Just get a wireless extender and connect all the devices to that.
EVO)))))))))Wireless extender ))))))))all your devices(no device limit) + ethernet.
http://3gstore.com/product/1813_pepwave-surf-mini-200.html I use it with my sprint mifi because I connect more than 9 devices when I'm at work. (grandfathered unlimited plan ) and the mifi only allows for 5
Hey thanks.. just got it to work, just purchased this... http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354515
seems to work pretty well... thanks for the info guys...
Just make sure only the router is connected to the evo with encryption, everything else will be handled by the repeater
Buy a router that you can put tomatousb firmware on it. Then configure the wireless as wireless bridge or client to the evo's wireless tether. Works great for me when the times my internet is down.

WiFi Access point idea!!!

I was at my local computer store yesterday when i saw a pcie x1 Wireless N adapter. I started thinking could I stream to my shield better using a WiFi adapter for my desktop, that supports access point mode.
IF someone has one it might be worth a try.
I have a very strange setup... I have 702 comm. And they gave me a wireless DSL modem. My speeds are supposed to be around 30 megs but I ever got near that until I hooked up my own router to the modem's lan port. Now I get 29mb down and 23mb up! Don't know why upload is so high. But I run a net gear a6200 wireless adapter from my PC to the router, the router gives me 5ghz band and the modem doesn't. I haven't had any problems with this setup really, my streaming games look pretty good, but being further away it disconnects a lot, like 60 feet away in the other room. Tried hooking my router up through as an access point but it took away my 5ghz band, and my connect was about 10mb slower. I don't think my wireless adapter has the access point function.
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The main reason I started thinking this is it would remove Wireless/Wired connections to the Wireless router/access point from the picture.
I see, so your talking about making the PC itself be the access point right? I've found a bunch of software that does this, I'll try it out
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Yup that is the idea.
Faithinchaos21 said:
I see, so your talking about making the PC itself be the access point right? I've found a bunch of software that does this, I'll try it out
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windows itself does
Only computer I have access that has built in wifi has a gt620 and no idea what cpu its built on a mini-itx board.
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windows itself does
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Yeah just tried it, but I couldn't get it working because my WiFi adapter doesn't have that access point mode, even after setting up my ssid and such through cmd prompt. Connectify let me do it, but it really didn't work all that great. I'd say it was just a bit worse than my original settings, someone else have the right WiFi adapter?
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I don't remember the name of the one I had that did support it, but I remember it is more along the lines of does the chipset on the card support it then the brand and model of the card.

VM Super Hub 1

Is there anyway of using the super hub 1 from virgin media to act as a wifi extender/repeater?
I currently have a super hub 2 connected but in some spots of the house i cant access wifi or its a poor signal so o was tjinking if it is possible to create a wifi extender from the super hub 1? Any help would be appreciated, and thanks.
skyla20 said:
Is there anyway of using the super hub 1 from virgin media to act as a wifi extender/repeater?
I currently have a super hub 2 connected but in some spots of the house i cant access wifi or its a poor signal so o was tjinking if it is possible to create a wifi extender from the super hub 1? Any help would be appreciated, and thanks.
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It is possible, the easest way is to first change some settings on your old hub, you will need to disable built in features such as the DHCP, secondly you may need to change the old hubs ip, if it is the same as the new one, to prevent a ip address conflict (for example, if they are both using 192.168.1.254 though if yours is an old netgear tg834? Then its probably using 192.168.1.1) , now assuming your old super hub supports the same wireless encryption as the new one, match the wireless ESSID (name) and encryption password (And type! Such as wpa2) so that they appear as the same Wireless network (distributed wireless) and the easesst and most supported method is to then link the two devices via ethernet and place one of them somewhere else in the building where it can provide a signal in the blindspots of your primary superhub.
Also a side not.. If i recall, the most recent superhub uses 802.11n on 5GHz, which does not boad well in old victorian houses, and new ones made with lots of metal strips between plaster boards.. 2.4GHz works better at penetrating walls, so check you dont have this option set to 5GHz under the wireless settings.
tytiger said:
It is possible, the easest way is to first change some settings on your old hub, you will need to disable built in features such as the DHCP, secondly you may need to change the old hubs ip, if it is the same as the new one, to prevent a ip address conflict (for example, if they are both using 192.168.1.254 though if yours is an old netgear tg834? Then its probably using 192.168.1.1) , now assuming your old super hub supports the same wireless encryption as the new one, match the wireless ESSID (name) and encryption password (And type! Such as wpa2) so that they appear as the same Wireless network (distributed wireless) and the easesst and most supported method is to then link the two devices via ethernet and place one of them somewhere else in the building where it can provide a signal in the blindspots of your primary superhub.
Also a side not.. If i recall, the most recent superhub uses 802.11n on 5GHz, which does not boad well in old victorian houses, and new ones made with lots of metal strips between plaster boards.. 2.4GHz works better at penetrating walls, so check you dont have this option set to 5GHz under the wireless settings.
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Ok i will check all that out soon as i have time but thanks also. The house is made in 1970's it is strange that im not getting good signal in the garage room the wireless hub is situated in the living room downstairs then theres a brick wall then the hall way withthe stairs in the middle another small brick wall which leads to the garage room. I get signal but its poor. Would a netgear wifi extender work the one on the net for about £40 if the super hub 1 idea didnt work?
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skyla20 said:
Ok i will check all that out soon as i have time but thanks also. The house is made in 1970's it is strange that im not getting good signal in the garage room the wireless hub is situated in the living room downstairs then theres a brick wall then the hall way withthe stairs in the middle another small brick wall which leads to the garage room. I get signal but its poor. Would a netgear wifi extender work the one on the net for about £40 if the super hub 1 idea didnt work?
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Yes, any off the shelf Signal "Booster" device should work, I use one at work and it's essentially a small WiFi device that connects to a specified Access point (in your case the super hub) and re-broadcasts the same network settings from it's own wireless card, forwarding any data to and from the original access point like a wireless bridge. the only down side is there is usually a slight decrease in bandwidth with this method, where as using multiple wireless access points, hard-wired in to a network via Ethernet all have their own dedicated connection providing maximum bandwidth. Hope that helps and isn't too technical
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Yes, any off the shelf Signal "Booster" device should work, I use one at work and it's essentially a small WiFi device that connects to a specified Access point (in your case the super hub) and re-broadcasts the same network settings from it's own wireless card, forwarding any data to and from the original access point like a wireless bridge. the only down side is there is usually a slight decrease in bandwidth with this method, where as using multiple wireless access points, hard-wired in to a network via Ethernet all have their own dedicated connection providing maximum bandwidth. Hope that helps and isn't too technical
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I full understand, soon as i get some spare time i will try the settings on the hub etc, if no luvk with that then i will look towards on getting the wifi extender preferably the netgear with two sntennas on for £40, i did hear that that one is only 2.4ghz. Oh well fingers crossed somthing works.
skyla20 said:
I full understand, soon as i get some spare time i will try the settings on the hub etc, if no luvk with that then i will look towards on getting the wifi extender preferably the netgear with two sntennas on for £40, i did hear that that one is only 2.4ghz. Oh well fingers crossed somthing works.
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If im not mistaken again (the VM Superhub in my experience is the one at the office) it broadcasts on 2.5 and 5GHz simultaneously, so you may get away with it, the repeater would use the 2.4Ghz band for it's distribution link, and any devices close enough (and supporting) could use the 5GHz band, which in theory would work in your favour, and not effect the repeated signal, giving you a little boost in performance.. this, of course depends on how well the superhub manages its wireless, and i have little faith in it as it is..

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