Nice Thinks you can do with a rooted A500 #1 - Acer Iconia A500

Hi,
After I rooted my A500 via this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539 (read it ALL) I started making my A500 a tool for my business. As this is happening I will post thinks that you may find interesting and useful.
So this is my #1 think that I did with my A500
I make it a samba server
For those who don't know what samba is read here http://www.samba.org/. In short samba is a way to copy / move files between your A500 and your PC via the WiFi local network you may have. That is no cables, no sync problems, no extra software in your PC!
Steps
1. Download and install this excellent free tool https://market.android.com/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba on your A500.
2. Run it and Accept the first screens.
3. Goto "Menu" --> Settings.
4. Click "Password" and set one (max 8 chars).
5. Click "Username" and set one.
6. Click "Workgroup Name" ans set it the same with your PC's workgroup name. Here is How you can find it http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-7/find-the-workgroup-name/.
7. Click "NETBIOS Name" and type a unique name for your network. For example "MYA500". It is better not to use spaces.
8. Exit the Settings and restart the program.
9. Wait until the message "Disabled - Not Running" appears right under the samba logo.
10. Now click the samba logo (the word "samba" at the top) and wait until a window appears that informs you about the service status.
11. If the message "Enabled - Running" appears then you are ready to go.
12. Open the run command on your pc (WIN KEY + R) and type \\<NETBIOS name> (for example \\MYA500) and press enter.
13. Enter the username and password that you set earlier and click OK.
Voila! Your A500 Internal's memory files at your disposal...
UPDATE:
ICONIA A500 SAMBA SERVER DELIVERED!!!
Make your A500 a Samba Server with the ability to share both Internal and External memory and even the root File System
Finally I made it happen. You can read a nice How to I prepared (It's a little bit long) here: http://www.chdcomputers.gr/en/mnu-kb-en/mnu-kb-android-en/mnu-kb-android-devices-en/mnu-kb-android-a500-en/258-art-kb000006-en
If you are an Advanced user who knows what he/she is doing then the trick is to replace the /data/data/com.funkyfresh.samba/files/samba-rc with the attached one and change its rights to rwxrwxr-x finally copy the 2nd attached file to the same directory and you are ready.
If you are not understand this then read the how to above it is very detailed and relatively easy to follow...
Thanks,
Christos
http://www.chdcomputers.gr

Nice!
Ty

works fine....nice to have this option...,.....cant access external sd though

Nice, thanks

@ bytemehard - you can see your external_sd card if you first use the market app "USB Mount All". When the mount all screen comes up just "mount" your external_sd card. Then you can see it on your PC through Samba.

bytemehard said:
works fine....nice to have this option...,.....cant access external sd though
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Because this cames from the original samba project it is possible to see every partition on your device (including external sd) from your pc. The developer has enabled only the internal storage for safety reasons. You have to enable the other partitions from the configuration files of the app but this is an advanced task with security risks. However I am preparing a how to for this because I need to access my external_sd as well, when the tests are done I will post it here...

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metpolds said:
@ bytemehard - you can see your external_sd card if you first use the market app "USB Mount All". When the mount all screen comes up just "mount" your external_sd card. Then you can see it on your PC through Samba.
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Hmmmmm......Why would I have to mount a card with 'usb mount all', when its already mounted? Anyone else with usbmountall tried this?

@ bytemehard - with respect - your external_sd does not become "mounted" by default (this is just the way Acer chose to implement the sd card). If you use the app "USB Mount All" you will see that your card is not "mounted" so you have to click the "mount" button alongside your external_sd card which (along with any USB hard drives that you have attached) is displayed.
The fact that your external card is not "mounted" in the true sense of the word does not stop you seeing it's contents when viewed normally through your A500.

chrishohl said:
Because this cames from the original samba project it is possible to see every partition on your device (including external sd) from your pc. The developer has enabled only the internal storage for safety reasons. You have to enable the other partitions from the configuration files of the app but this is an advanced task with security risks. However I am preparing a how to for this because I need to access my external_sd as well, when the tests are done I will post it here...
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I dont know if it is for safety reasons as you suggest or just unfinished business....I see a media scan tab but it does nothing that i can see.
Still a nice app....Good luck with your project
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@metpolds
If I hear what your saying, shouldn't drive mount or ntfs mount do the same. I did experiment with those with no luck.

See the external sd via Samba Server (Rough way)
A quick and rough way to "see" the external_sd in the samba shares is this:
1. Disable samba server and close the app
2. Open Terminal Emulator and type
su
mkdir /mnt/sdcard/externalsd
mount -o bind /mnt/external_sd /mnt/sdcard/externalsd
exit
3. Close Terminal Emulator
4. Open Samba Server and Enable it
Now you will be able to see your external's sd contents via the \\<your a500 NETBIOS name>\sdcard\externalsd directory in your pc.
This will not survive reboots and I don't think that is a good idea to put it in .rc files because if the external sd fails for some reason (or extracted by the user) it may have unexpected results...

bytemehard said:
I dont know if it is for safety reasons as you suggest or just unfinished business....I see a media scan tab but it does nothing that i can see.
Still a nice app....Good luck with your project
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@metpolds
If I hear what your saying, shouldn't drive mount or ntfs mount do the same. I did experiment with those with no luck.
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Maybe you are right. My first test indicates that the program may has unfinished parts but I 'll give it another shot when I have the time...
BTW MediaScan option works. What it does is to rescan media files in your sdcard to make them available in media programs in the device. For example if you copy some images from the pc to the device and you want to see them with the android image viewer you can use this option to make them available...

@ bytemehard - no argument with what you are saying - "USB mount all" was one of the first apps I installed after rooting my A500 and it does everything I want it to - "Drive Mount" does all these things as well - they both look after drives that are formatted other than Fat32 and basically there is not much to chose between them. I chose usb because I had aso installed a couple of other apps by the same developers and they were working fine and I suppose I thought "......why eat oranges when you have a case of apples" - lol. As for "ntfs" where's it gone? seems to have vanished from the market.
Anyway I can assure you USB works in Samba and shows the contents of the external card and I am certain Drive Mount will do the same.

on your pc are you seeing 2 seperate drives? one being the sdcard and the other externalsd.......or do you have a symbolic link in the directory sdcard of the externalsd?
also what are your settings in usb mount all.....?
Hey finally got 10 posts...

@ bytemehard
Using Win7 64 bit.
1. In Win Explorer you see the left hand pane and I see for example....... Computer >
Network> HENDON1(My PC name)>PETEA500(The netbios name I called my Tab in Samba)
2.If I open up "PETEA500" I get "sdcard" (not teaching you how to suck eggs but this is very
misleading due to Acer's weird setup and file naming convention because this is NOT your
external card.
3. If I open up "sdcard" I have a list of folders in the A500. Mine start off with - .dataviz -
eachscape_tmp - .FileExpert - .mobo - pfs - Alarms - Android ...... etc.etc. Obviously you will
have some folders different to me.
4. Go down the list until you see DCIM - documents - Download - ext_sdcard (this really
is your SD Card)
5. If you open up the folder ext_sdcard you will see all the folders and files on your
external card.
This is dependent on you having already used "USB Mount All" or "Drive Mount" to
"mount" your external card. There are no settings to set in "USB" you just run the app
and the screen is self explanatory.

I'm using Samba Filesharing app, and Drive mount.
My external SD card is mounted in Drive Mount.
I can access my internal files just fine over WIFI but can't see the external card.
Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
Thank You

I also cannot access my external sd card files, but that is because the Samba Filesharing only shows what is on /mnt/sdcard. And yes, my external sd card is mounted. In order to access that, you would need to be able to access /mnt/"your_ext_sd_card".
I'm thinking you can probably create a shortcut to /mnt/"your_ext_sd_card", and then move that shortcut to /mnt/sdcard, where it should be viewable from the Samba Filesharing.
I'll have to wait to get home from work and test this, though.

Nice. Thanks for sharing.

Digil said:
I also cannot access my external sd card files, but that is because the Samba Filesharing only shows what is on /mnt/sdcard. And yes, my external sd card is mounted. In order to access that, you would need to be able to access /mnt/"your_ext_sd_card".
I'm thinking you can probably create a shortcut to /mnt/"your_ext_sd_card", and then move that shortcut to /mnt/sdcard, where it should be viewable from the Samba Filesharing.
I'll have to wait to get home from work and test this, though.
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Since I mounted the card with Drive Mount I have two entries when I check using FileManager HD. One listed as External_sd and the second as is titled by DriveMount.
metpolds posted
3. If I open up "sdcard" I have a list of folders in the A500. Mine start off with - .dataviz -
eachscape_tmp - .FileExpert - .mobo - pfs - Alarms - Android ...... etc.etc. Obviously you will
have some folders different to me.
4. Go down the list until you see DCIM - documents - Download - ext_sdcard (this really
is your SD Card)
5. If you open up the folder ext_sdcard you will see all the folders and files on your
external card.
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If that is correct one of the two listings for my SD card should appear on the internal list.
( I just checked details for both listings and they claim creation was December 31 1969.)

@GullyFoyle - I'm sorry to say that I have no idea why you can't see your external card. I note that you are using "DriveMount" which I don't have (as I've said I use "USB Mount All") so I don't know whether there are settings that should be set. Like you guys I only came to Samba as a result of this post and I can only say that my method was to switch on my tab, set up Samba as per OP's instructions and when I had it running I also could not see my external card but a couple of months ago while working with other apps I found the same problem and eventually realised I had to "mount" the external card in "USB Mount All" so last night that is what I did - restarted Samba and there it was.
@Digil - What I've said above applies to your problem in part, although I really don't know why you've got to change settings to get there. The "sdcard" folder (which is your Internal memory) shows through /mnt/sdcard but this is not your external card. Your external card is in the folder /mnt i.e. /mnt/ext_sdcard. As said above I can only really talk about using "USB Mount All". Sorry no suggestions. Perhaps someone with greater knowledge than me can explain it better.
For both of you - don't know if this affects anything? - I have not changed to HC 3.2 still running HC 3.1 rooted with Iconia Root._

USB Mount All
Yea, seems as though Drive Mount wont create a link to external sd in the sdcard directory .......It will create a link on the root directory and /mnt,
both not accessible using Samba fileshare.....
So Looks like usbmountall may be the way to go.
Thanks for the info

Related

How do I navigate to the USB drive?

I had it at one time but because I'm an Android newbie, I have no idea where to look.
Using Astro or ES.
rorytmeadows said:
I had it at one time but because I'm an Android newbie, I have no idea where to look.
Using Astro or ES.
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It's ok, we all start somewhere right?
Load up astro hit home then up and your usb storage device is whatever is in usb_storage. Remember to give it a few secs to detect it and prepare the drive.
Your SD card (internal) is sdcard and your microsd is external_sd.
GL.
Hope this helps.
Neoprimal said:
It's ok, we all start somewhere right?
Load up astro hit home then up and your usb storage device is whatever is in usb_storage. Remember to give it a few secs to detect it and prepare the drive.
Your SD card (internal) is sdcard and your microsd is external_sd.
GL.
Hope this helps.
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Excellent! Thanks.
Is it possible to access the micro SD card through a computer? When exploring the acer drive after plugging it in you can see all the stuff on the internal memory but can't get to the external_sdcard folder.
at the moment i dont think this is possible but give it a few days and it might be a possibility.
tuffghost said:
Is it possible to access the micro SD card through a computer? When exploring the acer drive after plugging it in you can see all the stuff on the internal memory but can't get to the external_sdcard folder.
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You can purchase (I think it was a whole $1.50) an app called WiFi File Explorer. It sets your tablet with its own IP address from whatever source you are using for WiFi. Then you access your SD Card by entering in the IP address line in your browser. The app will give you the exact address line to enter into your browser.
Its like a virtual FTS server actually. Works like a charm. If you are worried about security, you can require a password.
Accessing external sd and usb drives
It is possible to access the SD and USB drives using a file manager such as Astro or Estrongs. The drives can be found in the main directory under subdirectory /mnt.
Hope this helps. I had the same problem at first.
Tam the Bam
tuffghost said:
Is it possible to access the micro SD card through a computer? When exploring the acer drive after plugging it in you can see all the stuff on the internal memory but can't get to the external_sdcard folder.
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According to Acer, that isn't possible right now. Not that I'm inclined to believe them, but the manual is pretty thorough and I decided to go through every page and it clearly states "Transferring files from a microSD card to your PC.
Remove the card from the tablet and use a card reader or USB adapter to access the card as an external storage device."
I'm REALLY hoping they address this in an update. I thought it was a Honeycomb limitation due to the Xoom but Asus has addressed it by looping it as a folder in the internal storage so I mean, Acer and Xoom should be able to do that as well. Unless there are unforeseen problems with doing that? /shrug.
USB and a camera
Thanks for starting this thread! I'm also a newb and I have Astro and ES installed (now).
I am trying to read images from my camera (Nikon D3). When I attach the USB and turn on the camera the A500 says scanning for media. But none shows up in the photo browser (I'm sure I need a better viewer and suggestions are welcome!). When using ES or Astro and navigating to the usb_storage directory it shows as empty.
For background, the D3 holds 2 CF cards with the 2nd typically used as overflow and both are 8GB. Each card normally just has a DCIM directory with photos in one or more directories below that.
Once I connected up the A500, on one of the cards 2 additional directories were created (the one without any images currently) called .android_secure and LOST.DIR. I can't see any of these directories on the A500 or any of the images (all .jpg). I plugged into my laptop for this info.
I am trying not to have to carry my laptop anymore so any suggestions, ideas or research resources would be appreciated.
I've run into a HUGE issue. I wonder if anyone else has experienced this.
The files on my USB flash drives begins to get erased/deleted if it is still connected to the tablet when the device is activated from hibernation mode. I don't know if the file explorer apps are causing this bug. I've used Linda File Manager and Astro and 3 different USB drives to test this. I've even restored my tablet to factory settings.
Hello,
I have also problems navigating the usb drive.As mentioned above I found the dir but it shows (Directory empty).Im using a 8gb transcend flash drive.On 128mb flash drive there is no problem viewing and accesing the files.Any other have the same problem or solution?
I change the file system from NTFS to FAT32 and it works now(such a stupid user Ive become)

micro SD. Not showing in file manager [SOLVED]

As the title says. I've put the microsd card of my htc g2/z in the iconia and its working. Though i cant seem to find it anywhere in my file managers. (Music app shows ext. Sd content) tried es and file manager for honeycomb. I want to transfer music and video's over to internal sd. Since acer does not have usb drivers for mac, this is kind off my only option. Right?
SOLVED:
1.
Micro SD card slot shows up under: /mnt/external_SD.
So in your file explorer you have to go to root, and then mnt.
2. There are no mac drivers for the acer A500. You can try http://www.android.com/filetransfer/
Though, that program seems to crash alot!
3.
Transfer your files from mac to A500 using USB sticks, SD cards, FTP servers (loads in market).
USB stick can be found: mnt/external_USB
huppelkutje said:
Since acer does not have usb drivers for mac, this is kind off my only option. Right?
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No it isn't your only option, you install this: http://www.android.com/filetransfer/.
Regards,
Dave
I will check it out. Thanks alot!
**edit**
Android file transfer keeps crashing as soon as i connect the tab. Tried reboot, but still crashing.
Any other solutions? I've tried FTP and such apps. They work, but ofcourse not as fast as usb connection.
and why is my micro sd card not showing in file explorers?
if you're using es strogs file manager than you first need to go to root (click on the left most icon on top) than go to /mnt than /external_sd <-- that's your micro sd card than simply copy and paste your files from there to your internal storage.
shock2sys said:
if you're using es strogs file manager than you first need to go to root (click on the left most icon on top) than go to /mnt than /external_sd <-- that's your micro sd card than simply copy and paste your files from there to your internal storage.
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Thanks. This makes copying my music alot easier.
Dual File Manager works too. When you start it, just hit the Android back button and you'll see "external_sd"
Sucks that it doesn't mount on my PC though.
huppelkutje said:
Thanks. This makes copying my music alot easier.
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I use Winamp on the desktop and the A500. It syncs music from my desktop machine to my tablet automatically whenever my tablet connects to my home wifi.
just put the card in and power down/on the device.
as mentioned, power down fully, not just On/off until the screen blanks. Found out the hard way, lazy person that I am.
Odd thing I've found though is that when connecting my Acer tab to my Acer .... err ... laptop ... feels so incestuous .... is that the mSD card appears as simply "SDCARD" while it's external_SD from the device itself. Ah the sweet smell of O/S kludges in the morning
qhinton said:
just put the card in and power down/on the device.
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No need to power off > back on. Just put the sd card in and voila! It worked right away. Just could not find the sd card in ES file. But now I know it's under mnt/external_SD/
actually I wouldn't call it solved, its kind of an annoyance if anything else. Titanium Backup for one won't see it, I thought honeycomb was going to mnt internal as essc (or something like that) and the external sd as sdcard?
You can soft link it (now that we have root) but that won't carry across a reboot for now.
any how still loving this thing!

[Q] Question re: USB Disk drive

OK, I just downloaded and installed the 3.1 update, running stock OS.
CONFIG
I have a 32GB A500 which I assume is main memory / SSD. I also added a 32GB micro SDHC chip in it, and for testing, an 8GB thumb drive in the large USB port. They all show up in system Settings,
When I have had the A500 connected via the mini-USB port, the memory / SSD shows up, but not the sdhc card, and not a thumb drive if i plug that in (when I look at it as an extended drive)
Some applications can see memory / SSD, and the micro SDHC chip. For example, ES File Explorer has a tab which cycles between the memory / SSD file system, and that on the SHDC chip. It doesn't include USB storage.
QUESTION
First, I'd like to confirm that something (anything) can read the USB file system.
Next, I am looking for a utility that would allow me to see all three file systems: main/SSD, SDHC, and USB, and move things back and forth between them, and to/from my PC as well. Recommendations?
As far as I know there is nothing that will allow you to read the 'external' drives from PC. This was supposed to be fixed in 3.1 (just another thing borked..), so go figure when or IF it'll ever be available.
Incidentally, my 2.2 Archos 101 did all that perfectly, but the new android versions won't, funny eh?
Assuming he has the proper drivers installed, what if he went micro usb connected to pc and thumb drive in tablet. He could read/transfer files from thumb to tablet and have the pc read/transfer to/from the tablet. If that makes sense or helps.
Get a file explorer and go to the mnt directory. the internal, external and usb storage are all there.
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
GCurry said:
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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1) I use Root Explorer and I can see the USB Storage in the MNT directory in the root of the device.
2) from the PC, adb i assume, but i've never done this. For network, try Samba server - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba&feature=search_result.
GCurry said:
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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To answer the first one, no, there is no application to read the external data drives.
As for the second, to transfer files between these, you need to get a file explorer like Root Explorer. The multimedia apps have the ability to access the external data drives so if you want to store music and/or movies on them, you do not have to use up your internal memory.
Hope that answered your question.
Does 3.1 add ntfs support??....if not can I make it support without rooting my tab??
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Root explorer works great, so does File Manager HD
GCurry said:
OK, I just downloaded and installed the 3.1 update, running stock OS.
QUESTION
First, I'd like to confirm that something (anything) can read the USB file system.
Next, I am looking for a utility that would allow me to see all three file systems: main/SSD, SDHC, and USB, and move things back and forth between them, and to/from my PC as well. Recommendations?
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I use Astro, in Astro I see them all. Home, Up and you'll see all the storage areas.
Astro will allow you to move things back and forth between SD, USB and Internal storage.
Nothing that I know of, will allow you to directly view your USB or MicroSD using your PC, by directly I mean through the microusb connection.
There's an app called Wifi File Explorer Pro which may allow you to see them on the PC however I'm not certain as I never used it extensively and may be more trouble than it's worth as you'll have to open a port in your router for it to work properly.
Hope this helps.
Any file manager can access /mnt/external_sd and /mnt/usb_storage.
Drive mount or USB mount all can mount ntfs drives. Must be rooted.
Can only access internal memory front PC. End of story until google/Acer fixes it.
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Euclid's Brother said:
Any file manager can access /mnt/external_sd and /mnt/usb_storage.
Drive mount or USB mount all can mount ntfs drives. Must be rooted.
Can only access internal memory front PC. End of story until google/Acer fixes it.
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I am on 3.1 ota and I wanted to root it for ntfs support.....but don't want to void my warranty.....(weather here is too humid so generally all electronic devices don't work or something or the other happens to them)...so I will unroot later to claim my warranty.....what else can I do with root.....(no custom roms..).......
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1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
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Any file system application (ASTRO, Root Explorer) can access all storage devices in your system. The location for the storage devices is /mnt.
Note that the /mnt/sdcard directory is actually a FUSE mount of /data/local
The directories related to storage are:
/mnt/sdcard - a FUSE image of /data/local. This is internal storage.
/mnt/external_sd - The microSD card. Must be FAT32.
/mnt/usb_drive - A USB drive of some sorts...can be a thumb drive or a hard drive. Not sure about 3.1, but 3.0.1 needed this drive to be FAT32.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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Answer...other than ADB, no (until Acer fixes that). When you mount your tablet to your PC, you are connecting to a FUSE partition, which is an image of /data/local. You can transfer files between /data/local (via FUSE partition) and your PC. Unfortunately, because you are accessing a FUSE partition, you are restricted to only /data/local (so you can't get to /mnt). ADB is a known exception (as it uses USB Debugging to access the tablet), but that isn't graphical at all (all command line, which means it is a lot of typing).
op mentioned ES file explorer
Use it myself - as I really like the interface and the LAN access works great for me.
You can see all your storage devices from es explorer
/mnt/sdcard = internal memory
/mnt/external_sd = microsd card
/mnt/USB_drive = USB based storage device
If you want to mount ntfs you need to root.

[Q] External SD carc

OK Ive looked and tried but no luck. Is there a way to move or install user apps on the external SD card. I can store pictures , movies and other files on to it but cant move the apps using Titanium or any other Apps 2 sd program. IM RUNNING OUT OF ROOM!!!!!!!
scubabear1 said:
OK Ive looked and tried but no luck. Is there a way to move or install user apps on the external SD card. I can store pictures , movies and other files on to it but cant move the apps using Titanium or any other Apps 2 sd program. IM RUNNING OUT OF ROOM!!!!!!!
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Couldn't you repartition with CWM and make the partition 4GB instead of 2? Not sure on this particular tablet though.
I have a 32gb micro sd installed i want to move all the installed apps to it
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You could try manually moving them over and making a symbolic link where they were originally. A pain but if its a proof of concept then an app can be made to do it.
From what I've surmized Acer (and perhaps all tablet makers) changed the name and/or file structure from that of normal android phones. App2sd expects to have the old file system. I'm not sure how app2sd works internally but the sym link thing would be a guess of top of my head.
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yes your right but i dont have the skills to do it ill have to wait for the app if one ever is developed
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AWTrost said:
You could try manually moving them over and making a symbolic link where they were originally. A pain but if its a proof of concept then an app can be made to do it.
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for different reasons, I'd like to learn how to create symbolic links to folders. I'd like to place one in my /sdcard folder in order to point to /external_sd, this way I'll see the external sd directly when I browse the tablet with my PC, like it's possible with the virtuous_galaxy rom..
can U help?
TIA
You might try using this simple method which I first posted in another thread and regarding a different subject. It might do what you want.
For anyone who wants to see the contents of their sd card on their PC and be able to copy/transfer files from one to the other, why not give this a try, it is very simple and works for my A500.
Before you start you need your A500 to be rooted and you need "USB Mount All version 1.3" from the Market cost $1.99
(1) Have your PC switched on, don't connect your A500 yet but switch the A500 on.
(2) Run USB Mount All and you will see your sd card as a "Device" named "ext_sdcard".
(3) Press the tab "Mount" next to your ext_sdcard. You will see two messages "Mount has been granted Superuser permission" and "Device successfully mounted".
(4) Press the "Menu" tab in the top Right hand corner of the screen, this opens a small box entitled "Settings". Press on "Settings" and you get 3 options, make certain all 3 options are ticked, ticking them if they are not. (The important thing is to have "Mount on Bootup" ticked"). Press the Back Arrow twice to get back to Home Page or where ever you started from.
(5) Re-boot the A500 and after it is back running connect it to your PC using mini usb connector.
(6) Now check your PC and open Windows Explorer, you will find under your A500 Device most of the folder/directories that are in /mnt/sdcard (which isn't all that relevent to this) BUT importantly you will find a folder/directory entitled "ext_sdcard" which for those of you who noticed is the exact name that "USB Mount All" called your sd card.
(7) Now use Windows Explorer to copy and paste whatever you want into the "ext_sdcard" folder.
(8) Please note that when you start to copy files you will get up a warning box stating "Do you want to copy XXXXX to your device?". You are given 2 choices (1) No skip this file or (2) Yes.
(9) Put a tick in the box at the bottom Left and click on "Yes".
(10) When finished safely disconnect your A500 from your PC and re-boot your A500.
(11) After re-boot go back into "USB Mount All", chose top Right menu and settings box and remove the tick from the 3rd option "Mount on Bootup". Each time you are going to copy, move or delete files first of all put the tick back in the 3rd box and when you're done take it out.
Your Done. If you use any File Explorer to look at /mnt/external_sd you will see all the files residing on your sd card including those you've just copied.
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Tutorial: how to use a nfts microsd in your p6800

I confirm it!
1 format your mocro sd on nfts using wimdows 7
2 insert the card in your 7.7 and dont care of the tablet says that the card is invalid
3 launc mount drive that is free on android market
4 unchek device filtering
5 select the last bottom drive that is the only one nfts drive avaiable
6 tap the upper right button, the one that have the icon of a drive
7 now you should see in the right colum your drive with a bar thar rapresents the free space, if you cant see this, reselect the nfts drive on the left colum and retap the mount drive icon (upper right) until you can see the drive mounted on the right colum.
8 when your drive is mounted you can find the drive folder with a root enable file manager like honeycom fm hd, the folder is under the system folder named mnt
Tht is all it works fine amd you cam close the app drive mount, the tablet comtinue to recognize the nfts micro sd wothout the app running. Now i can put my hd movies larger than 4 gb inside my micro sd and play them with my 7.7
The only problem is that tje sistem apps are setted to save thinks in mnt/externaldevice, so if you want save you movies or photos taked with the 7.7 camera inside your microsd you cant do it, you have to move them from your tablet memory to your microsd nfts using a file manager, but this is a little problem nothing of big
If any brave user is able to tweak the camera app to save the moviesnor photo inside the path mnt/nftsdrive please do it, after this all is perfect. Thanks
thanks!
btw, it's called NTFS, not nfts
Yes you are right, i do ever this mistake xD
Do you need to root your tab ?
Yes root is needed
Thanks.
I got it to work.
But there is a problem.
How can I transfer a 6 GB file to my 64 GB SD card using usb cable connected from my desktop to the Tab 7.7 ?
Currently I have to take out my SD card from my tab and using an adapter to transfer the movie to it (from my desktop to the SD card).
This is a tedious process and I don't want to keep taking the SD card in and out of my tab. I want to transfer my big movie file straight from my PC to the tab when it is connected via USB cable.
Currently, when I connect the tab to my desktop, I only see the internal storage of the tab and not the external NFTS sd card.
yes i know, this is a big problem, but unfortunatly i am unable to solve it, becouse the sd is mounted in a different place,in the origins the card id in mnt/externalstorage, but with the app drive mount tha parh is different..
Raziel_Sicily said:
yes i know, this is a big problem, but unfortunatly i am unable to solve it, becouse the sd is mounted in a different place,in the origins the card id in mnt/externalstorage, but with the app drive mount tha parh is different..
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perhaps softlinking the path may help?
it can help, but how to do this?
Maybe by transfering from your desktop to the tab using Samba through your local network (ie wifi instead of USB) and a SAMBA app on the GTAB ?
Raziel_Sicily said:
retap the mount drive icon (upper right) until you can see the drive mounted
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Ya,it's kind of tricky here.Let's why I failed mount ntfs card before...
Cuz, I give up after few trys..
Did it again today,and I successed in mounting ntfs card.
jcm0 said:
Maybe by transfering from your desktop to the tab using Samba through your local network (ie wifi instead of USB) and a SAMBA app on the GTAB ?
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Yes i know this method, but this is only wifi , it is more slow than usb. To do this just install astromanager and configure a spb network with the ip of your computer, after this share a folder from your pc and then you can copy files from your pc to your tab microsd via wifi
I've just made an app to mount NTFS sdcard.
It allows you to use it like normal FAT32 sdcards,
working with Stock camera app or MTP file transfer.
Could anyone try this?
I'm going to put this to android market
and I've already purchased a developer account,
but it seems to take some time to be able to upload my app...
My English is not good, I know
If there are any weird wording, let me know.
** alpha version **
** only for root users **
** only for Galaxy Tab 7.7 ... for now **
This app is to mount SD Card using NTFS.
/mnt/sdcard/extStorages/SdCard is the root of sdcard.
Auto-mount when the Android OS starts.
Or you can mount/unmount it manually.
** Not Bug **
- If you don't do "Safely Remove Hardware"
when you take your sdcard from PC,
it takes some time to mount it.
** Confirmed Issues **
- Only NTFS sdcard use assumed.
This app may prevent using FAT sdcard.
- Once unmounted, even after you mount again manually,
Android OS don't detect the sdcard.
You can access it with file managers or other apps,
but stock camera and settings app don't.
(Let me know if you know any solutions for this.)
- At the first attempt to mount (and get permission for su),
Android OS could fail to detect the sdcard.
It may be caused by delay of Superuser asking if it's ok or not.
- No error handling
** Disclaimer **
I am not responsible for any damage caused to your device or data or feeling.
It is recommended to backup your precious data.
Perfect app!! it works fine.
For this point
- Once unmounted, even after you mount again manually,Android OS don't detect the sdcard.You can access it with file managers or other apps,but stock camera and settings app don't.(Let me know if you know any solutions for this.)
It is not enought to restart the device in order to let android and camera/gallery to recognize the ntfs card ? This will solve the problem?
Raziel_Sicily said:
Perfect app!! it works fine.
For this point
- Once unmounted, even after you mount again manually,Android OS don't detect the sdcard.You can access it with file managers or other apps,but stock camera and settings app don't.(Let me know if you know any solutions for this.)
It is not enought to restart the device in order to let android and camera/gallery to recognize the ntfs card ? This will solve the problem?
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Thank you!
Of course, after rebooting the device,
sdcard can be mounted and Android OS detect it as usual.
It seems initial booting and inserting sdcard trigger detecting process,
but I don't know how to let the os to do it by my app.
dont worry your app is awesome as it is it is not a big problem to reset for make it functional after the unmount, just specify it when you sell in android market. Thanks so much for the app
Pretty great app to bad i left my 7.7 at home once i get home this will be the first thing i try. Btw any plan for galaxy note ver too?
Thanks alot
kwanying said:
Pretty great app to bad i left my 7.7 at home once i get home this will be the first thing i try. Btw any plan for galaxy note ver too?
Thanks alot
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I think it's possible to improve this app to work on galaxy note,
I don't have one though.
All I need is sdcard's mount point ( "/mnt/sdcard/external_sd" ? maybe ) and
device name which is like "/dev/block/mmcblkxxx".
If you can get these info, please pm me.
Thanks.
Thanks for awesome apk~
If you have any plan put it on the market, plz let us know.
We will support it!!
please hurry up if you want to gain money, becouse the huawei media pad woth ics of my girls can read ntfs micro sd, i think that with the ics update the p6800 will read the ntfs from defoult.

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