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To make this short, sweet, and to the point: if someone can tell me how to view only 'full sites' with the browser that would be great. Also, without using an outside browser app. Devs please feel free to delete when felt necessary. I tried a search but didn't come up with anything....
Thanks
Travis C
I suggest using dolphin browser, go into settings > user agent > desktop. I'm not sure about the default browser, haven't used it in a while, but I know a lot of times at the bottom of a site it will have the option to view full site.
Interesting it looks like the feature was removed. I remember on 1.6 you could switch between Android, iPhone, or Desktop.
I believe that was just on the custom browser made by Loccy(sp?). It was based off the regular browser source code, but was still basically custom made.
True. I guess that I had been using ROMs for so long that I had forgotten that the original didn't have that. Guess I will just have to wait a little longer. But some on the sites do have the option but some of them just load straight back to the mobile view on I select it. But no biggy.
MODs please feel free to delete this thread whenever. We can leave it at 'that option will probably be put into a future ROM'.
Travis C
Try Steel, good browser, has user agent Desktop option.
Tired of the about:debug hopefully a fix is coming soon....
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Tired of the about:debug hopefully a fix is coming soon....
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From what I understand its up to the developers of websites to differentiate between "Android" which is tablets, and "Android Mobile" which is phones.
Dolphin is the bees knees on my xoom I love the side to side features... all ready uninstalled the stock browser
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From what I understand its up to the developers of websites to differentiate between "Android" which is tablets, and "Android Mobile" which is phones.
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You are correct, but isn't that a little ridiculous? I mean the other browsers deliver us a desktop experience with no problem. I guess I understand the desire for the browser to be recognized as Android-specific, but relying on websites to change their code ultimately results in a less-than-ideal experience for the user. I don't know what a website's motivation would be to change their code. From their standpoint, I think it would seem like we are expecting them to make changes so that our substandard app will work. The websites will probably catch up, but meanwhile, shouldn't the stock browser be able to bring us as satisfying an experience as a third party app does?
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The websites will probably catch up, but meanwhile, shouldn't the stock browser be able to bring us as satisfying an experience as a third party app does?
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The websites would never catch up if that was the case. Right now the best way to deal with it is write to page owner that have this problem and complain.
Why not just change the user agent? Am I missing something?
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The websites would never catch up if that was the case. Right now the best way to deal with it is write to page owner that have this problem and complain.
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You make a very good point here. And I guess the sites in question are actually the better sites that redirect a user to alternative content (low-res video or non-Flash pages) based on the browser's signature. Since they already consider that, they may be more likely to respond to user requests and feedback and change their code. Our browser type should begin to show up in their web traffic reports, too. But I think it'll be a slow-going change because in the whole lineup of browsers, we're a minority. Personally, I'll be more apt to open Dolphin to view a page that isn't displaying in desktop mode, long before I would hunt down a webmaster email address and send a note. I'm not even sure exactly what to ask for in the note. If anybody would care to provide a post with some proper terminology, that might help the cause.
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Why not just change the user agent? Am I missing something?
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As I understand it, we can select "desktop" as our user agent, but that identifies our browser as "android" which a lot of sites interpret as "android mobile" and redirect us to mobile content anyway. I have also read where some folks can't get the setting to stick through a reboot.
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You make a very good point here. And I guess the sites in question are actually the better sites that redirect a user to alternative content (low-res video or non-Flash pages) based on the browser's signature. Since they already consider that, they may be more likely to respond to user requests and feedback and change their code. Our browser type should begin to show up in their web traffic reports, too. But I think it'll be a slow-going change because in the whole lineup of browsers, we're a minority. Personally, I'll be more apt to open Dolphin to view a page that isn't displaying in desktop mode, long before I would hunt down a webmaster email address and send a note. I'm not even sure exactly what to ask for in the note. If anybody would care to provide a post with some proper terminology, that might help the cause.
As I understand it, we can select "desktop" as our user agent, but that identifies our browser as "android" which a lot of sites interpret as "android mobile" and redirect us to mobile content anyway. I have also read where some folks can't get the setting to stick through a reboot.
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Desktop is not android. Android is android just like iPhone emulates an iPhone... about:debug or dolphin browser? Cmon
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Desktop is not android. Android is android just like iPhone emulates an iPhone... about:debug or dolphin browser? Cmon
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When I select "desktop" in the stock browser, it gives me a very different experience than when I select it in another browser, such as Dolphin. I am under the impression that selecting "android" would tell a website that I am on an android phone, and it would render the mobile version of the site. I don't want that, so I selected "desktop" but still often get directed to mobile versions of sites. I thought I read that the reason for this is that selecting "desktop" identifies the browser as "android"...as opposed to "android mobile." I guess sites aren't coded to recognize "android" as being different than "android mobile" and render the mobile version.
The suggestion has been to notify site owners of the problem and ask them to update their code. I think to do that effectively, I need to fully understand the issue, and I'm sorry but your reply didn't help me with that.
Android user agent is for tablets. Desktop is for desktop. Not many sites are setup to render pages for a tablet that's why you get the mobile version when set to android.
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But...I'm getting mobile versions when I'm set to desktop.
Thank you for your replies. I think Chongo has made a pretty solid case for the Dolphin browser.
Dolphin is one of the best alternative.
I am using the Dolphin Mini on my Nexus S just because of this user-agent issue, plus tabbed browsing, quick bookmarks, etc.
It is not as fast as the stock one, but the speed is still fast enough to enjoy the experience.
I read that Dolphin is still not good enough on Honeycomb. They have updated it, but still choppy.
We can hope that the developers are hard work to bring it up to speed with Honeycomb, better stability, faster with hardware acceleration. Certainly, this will be realized quickly as I read Google developer posted detailed information about hardware acceleration on Honeycomb:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/03/android-30-hardware-acceleration.html
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But...I'm getting mobile versions when I'm set to desktop.
Thank you for your replies. I think Chongo has made a pretty solid case for the Dolphin browser.
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Btw, anyone can really catch the stock browser user agent string?
I am interested to know "exactly", the exact string text, what is the user agent string of the stock browser, default setting and when set to desktop via about:debug.
And also from the Dolphin set to "desktop".
Thanks if you can do this for us.
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But...I'm getting mobile versions when I'm set to desktop.
Thank you for your replies. I think Chongo has made a pretty solid case for the Dolphin browser.
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You need to type ' about:debug' every time you reboot and in some cases after clearing your browsing history or after the browser stops. In other words, 'about:debug' does not stick. But your settings are remembered, so you won't have to keep changing your user agent, you'll just need to keep typing 'about:debug' in your address bar. The easier way to tell if you're still in debug mode is by clicking the menu icon and seeing if you have expanded options or not.
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Btw, anyone can really catch the stock browser user agent string?
I am interested to know "exactly", the exact string text, what is the user agent string of the stock browser, default setting and when set to desktop via about:debug.
And also from the Dolphin set to "desktop".
Thanks if you can do this for us.
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http://my-addr.com/ua
For me, Safari is listed when in both desktop and android mode. When in android mode, platform shows as unknown.
With Dolphin in desktop mode, the agent is Chrome and the platform is Win7.
I don't have Xoom, so I cannot test that
But, I tested using my Nexus S, and here is the result:
Dolphin in Android mode:
Browser name: Default Browser
Platform: unknown
Operating System: Linux, Smart Move!!!
User Agent: Safari
Dolphin in desktop mode:
Browser branch name: Safari 3.1
Browser name: Safari
Browser version: 3.1
Platform: MacOSX
Operating System: Mac OS X
User Agent: Safari
Stock browser in Android (default) mode:
Browser name: Default Browser
Platform: unknown
Operating System: Linux, Smart Move!!!
User Agent: Safari
Stock browser in desktop mode:
Browser branch name: Safari 5.0
Browser name: Safari
Browser version: 5.0
Platform: MacOSX
Operating System: Mac OS X
User Agent: Safari
They are all using "Safari", no word "Android" mentioned.
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http://my-addr.com/ua
For me, Safari is listed when in both desktop and android mode. When in android mode, platform shows as unknown.
With Dolphin in desktop mode, the agent is Chrome and the platform is Win7.
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One good thing about being automatically sent to the mobile version of a site?
Gizmodo.com
The mobile site is vanilla and plain but DAMN it's better to look at than that new mess of a website they've put up the last couple of months.
/rant
I think the issue here is why can't the Stock browser settings stick when you change the user agent. Dolphin seems to work perfectly fine after rebooting or after a browser crash. If the Stock browser did the same thing, after changing it to desktop, I don't think anyone would have an issue.
FYI Google addressed why this happens in their Android Blog:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-browser-user-agent-issues.html
Basically, the browser reports itself as Android, but not Android Mobile (as someone else suggested).
Websites currently sense if you are using Android and assume its a phone (because it always used to be), but now they should key of the word "Mobile" instead.
This does have drawbacks, but from an engineering perspective, it is the "correct" way to do it. Hacking the user agent is bad practice - its important for web admins to know if a lot of tablets are accessing their website, for example, so they can make sure the site works well for them. If Google set it to spoof a windows desktop, web admins would never know how many tablets were being used, and may be serving their users with a less than optimal page for tablets without realizing it.
So it will take some time for web admins to fix their sites, but unfortunately, this is the right way to do it. It would be great though if the about:debug settings were sticky. It might be bad practice for Google to design the tablet to spoof the user agent, but its fine if an individual user decides to.
-Taylor
It seems like the best option is to complain to webmasters who do not allow the option of leaving mobile mode on their sites.
If the option to view either mobile or full site is given then there is no need to spoof the user agent and the device would be properly tracked by whatever software the host is using. We need to complain more to the web admins if we will ever see the compatability that the ipad users currently have when browsing the web. At the same time the web admins need to know that enough of our devices are out there before they will see a need to create an alternative browsing experience. This is why I am against changing the user agent.
Edit: Perhaps Google had the same thought in mind and this is the reason the user agent setting does not hold after a reboot.
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I want to make a (more recent) comparison of web browsers available to us on the ASUS TF101 and TF201 tablets, something that is useful. In my experience we don't have all that many threads that are Really Good on this subject, that don't get bogged down with noise and opinion drowning out the signal after a while.
The browsers, web sites, and procedures I will use for testing are being collected HERE as they are written.
I am open to suggestions of things to test as long as they don't cost me $$$, are legit, and hopefully widely used by communities of people in general. If it has issues with the stock browser in HC/ICS/GB/Froyo in fast/simple usage, like crashy crashy! Then I am more likely to test a suggestion.
Note for mods: this is cross posted in the forum for both tablets.
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One test i would like to see is which browsers you can put into desktop mode and fool HULU with.
Neither. Hulu knows it's an android because you're running an android version of flash.
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One test i would like to see is which browsers you can put into desktop mode and fool HULU with.
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Yep, its the Flash version that matters.
In the Apps forum there's a hacked Flash plugin that works with Hulu.
@topic
Great idea. Looking forward for the results.
The things that i'd like to see reviewed are the rendering speed and image quality while browsing.
Speed will be noted somehow but I really don't know how to scientifically do image quality, past "Looks ...." to me, lol.
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Lifehacker is a good website to test. See if any browser can reproduce the two different scrollable objects properly, like it would be on a browser in Windows or Mac. A lot of browsers will simply choose to lock the two scrollable columns into the page, such that if you try to scroll one, the other follows.
I'd suggest testing a website like Verizonwireless.com, specifically the Explore, Shop, My Verizon, and Support buttons. On a computer, a mouse-over shows a drop-down menu, and a click takes you to the next page. The iPad does this very smart where tapping once on "Shop" for instance will bring down the dropdown menu, tapping it once more will take you to the webpage it links to. So far, the Android browsers I've tried have an awkward execution for this mouse-over effect where you have to hold the button like "Shop" for around half a second and then swipe away your finger to avoid going to the link it points to. See if you can find a browser that works mouse-over in a similar fashion to Safari.
+1 for lifehacker/deadspin/gizmodo sometimes (usually) first load is a blank screen and I have to hit reload. After reload its marginally functional, but not 100%
Also try facebook in desktop or iPad mode... Some stuff works well... Other stuff is total fail, like inviting people to events.
I'll post more as I remember them. I've actually been thinking of making a list like this, but you beat me to it.
Edit: thought of one more: google docs... Word processor, spreadsheets, the whole lot of them...
Spidey,
One thing I find very helpful in web browsing on my Transformer is the ability of a browser to scroll using the scroll wheel on a bluetooth mouse. I've noticed some browsers will scroll with the mouse, and some will not.
If possible, during your testing, you might want to add that as a yes/no feature, it would only take moments to test and include in your results.
Thanks for taking this on, I'm looking forward to your results/conclusions, and the inevitable "discussions" that will follow, either agreeing or disagreeing with your results.
Hi!
Can you test logmein.com as well? In stock and Dolphin it is not working.
I know there is .apk for Android, but it's costly.
@ERamseth gdocs is on my list and whenever possible I'll be testing desktop versions of sites. Can't say that I use Facebook very deeply though so a grain of salt may be needed..
@dm36415 Sorry, don't have any bluetooth mice to test with but great suggestion!] If the Windows box doesn't get pissy maybe I can try yanking my wired one off the desktop, but I can only test that on the TF101 as my Prime won't be getting a dock for a while :-(.
@stenc55 my word that site pissed off the stock browser, just trying to scroll the front page. Not sure how much I can test it but I'll try. Out side of Opera/Firefox, everything will probably barf at it though, and those two might as well lol.
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Are you just planning on testing rendering quality/performance, or are you going to sum up some of the other UI features that get mentioned (how tabs work, gesture support, how fluid/laggy scrolling down the page is, is there an incognito mode, etc)
How easy/difficult to import bookmarks from a PC browser, with or without folders.
Most browsers use the same back end as the stock browser, i.e. they do about as much work as Maxthon used to do. So the most use on quality/performance I can give versus the stock, I'm sure will usually be load times and usability. Opera & Firefox are the only two that I know of who bring their own magic for the back end. Unless I get something like native libs in the app data to suggest they included their own rendering engine, I'm marking it as "Stock".
I've been testing the Prime's stock browser, Angel, and Boat for part of the day in between taking care of my mother. Current data that I've recorded:
App name (in launcher, usually), market page, version tested, demographic (mobile, tablet, ...), rendering engine, approximate start time and page load times, exit method (menu, closing last tab, etc), available user agent settings, bookmark storage, sync, and folder support, gesture support, quick control support, plugin support, password remembered, speed dial support, max # of tabs, and "Editorial Remarks" like what I've written for Angel Browser:
My remarks on Angel Browser said:
Has a handy sidebar on the left, similar to what you can do in Opera Desktop; quick controls interfere with sidebar.
You can configure what toolbars are visible.
You can configure by pattern, what app handles what URL.
You can configure by pattern, what UA is given for what URL
You can configure the heck out of what clicking stuff does.
You can configure where most data is stored.
You can configure quick controls, UI, and most everything.
Bookmarks UI can have ads unless you purchase the Angel Browser License app.
Handy scroll down button (by default).
Has "Notes" and "Read Later" features.
Good alternative to the stock browsers UX.
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For websites tested, App/Site/Load Time/Rendering/Date and Editorial remarks are also being made for websites, like this one for the stock ICS browser on the Prime:
Prone to crashing and input lag
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For rendering, it's mostly focused on does it look/work like the desktop site and is it usable? For example, mail.google.com is gitchy in Boat browser and may give you a seizure.
Try editing a document in Google Docs (right now in every browser I tested it's almost impossible and does really strange things).
Note well: I no longer have a TF101 available so tests off TF201 by me are scrapped. People seem to have settled down post Chrome on ICS enough that I may just scrap it totally. If someone would like to pick up on TF101, PM me with your Google Docs address.
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Zooming, text reflowing and hardware acceleration.
The most important aspects of a browser, and the only browser that does these properly on mobile, is Opera.
When using Chrome on my Nexus 10 and streaming audio on a one tab, when I switch to a different tab the music stops.
I did some digging and found this solution:
https://chromiumcodereview.appspot.com/11361239
I'm a complete noob when it comes to implementing the solutions posted. Since I don't want to wait until they update Chrome and implement these modifications, I want to be able to put them in myself. The problem is I have no idea how. I tried searching but couldn't find anything relevant. Maybe I'm just not looking up the right keywords?
If somebody could please tell me/point me in the right direction, I'd really appreciate it.
I look forward to regaining functionality it should have, just like I look forward to rooting it once I have some time this weekend.
Spike
Use a different browser that supports it, or Floating Browser minimized while streaming. Chrome simply doesn't have this functionality yet.
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Use a different browser that supports it, or Floating Browser minimized while streaming. Chrome simply doesn't have this functionality yet.
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The reason I use chrome is because it syncs my bookmarks, making my browsing life much easier in general. I just want to know if anyone knows how to implement those code changes, giving Chrome that functionality.
You'll need to wait until Chrome for Android is completely open sourced. Its about 95% done so shouldn't be but a month or two.
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So here is the deal. I stopped using Chrome quite some time ago in favor of FF Beta. I like it quite a bit, but would like something a little more considerate of my privacy. I found FOSS Browser on F-Droid and loved it, until I found out it doesn't preserve your open tabs. I looked at Brave browser and really liked the look of that, but it doesn't seem to support sync on mobile and I can find no info on if you can back up it's data and if so what. Kiwi would also be an ideal solution I think if it supported sync or backups.
Sync is not an absolute requirement for me if I can back up my tabs and bookmarks.
I don't care about password storage as I use a separate password database.
I want the ability to have multiple tabs and have them preserved.
Privacy is important, but I don't need one of those always incognito types as that would not preserve my tabs and such.
Again FOSS would be perfect if it just preserved my open tabs. It seems the dev is not worried about that feature, so I am not going to hold my breath for it either. If someone has experience with Brave and can confirm I can do backups with it, even if it isn't built in and ADB backups of it work well, that would probably be good. Especially since they will eventually add sync.
TIA for your thoughts!
have you tried BRAVE browser? its based on chromium - I use that mostly
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have you tried BRAVE browser? its based on chromium - I use that mostly
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I just re-read your post... apologies.. it does have a beta sync feature although I haven't tested that yet
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have you tried BRAVE browser? its based on chromium - I use that mostly
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I just re-read your post... apologies.. it does have a beta sync feature although I haven't tested that yet
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No problem! I'm happy to get any input even on the ones I mentioned. I may test the beta sync out. I am very interested in Brave anyways.
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So here is the deal. I stopped using Chrome quite some time ago in favor of FF Beta. I like it quite a bit, but would like something a little more considerate of my privacy. I found FOSS Browser on F-Droid and loved it, until I found out it doesn't preserve your open tabs. I looked at Brave browser and really liked the look of that, but it doesn't seem to support sync on mobile and I can find no info on if you can back up it's data and if so what. Kiwi would also be an ideal solution I think if it supported sync or backups.
Sync is not an absolute requirement for me if I can back up my tabs and bookmarks.
I don't care about password storage as I use a separate password database.
I want the ability to have multiple tabs and have them preserved.
Privacy is important, but I don't need one of those always incognito types as that would not preserve my tabs and such.
Again FOSS would be perfect if it just preserved my open tabs. It seems the dev is not worried about that feature, so I am not going to hold my breath for it either. If someone has experience with Brave and can confirm I can do backups with it, even if it isn't built in and ADB backups of it work well, that would probably be good. Especially since they will eventually add sync.
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Samsung Internet
Samsung Internet Beta
3 times in 3 months I had to use chrome, ****ty sites not the browser's fault!
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My main Android browser is Opera I have almost 70 tabs open all the time and most of them in Desktop user agent. I tried many browsers but always return to Opera. Give it a try.
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Samsung Internet
Samsung Internet Beta
3 times in 3 months I had to use chrome, ****ty sites not the browser's fault!
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Samsung internet is not really good for my privacy. It reports back everything to Samsung and who knows what they do with it. Also I don't trust their backup for the browser I tried it once and when I redid my phone there was no backup.
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My main Android browser is Opera I have almost 70 tabs open all the time and most of them in Desktop user agent. I tried many browsers but always return to Opera. Give it a try.
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I will look into it. I used to be an Opera user way back. They had the best (maybe only ) browser for my Walkman flip phone!
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Samsung Internet
Samsung Internet Beta
3 times in 3 months I had to use chrome, ****ty sites not the browser's fault!
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I upvote both Samsung Internet and Beta. I especially like the beta as it allows S-Pen functionality like single click to navigate backwards and double click to navigate forwards. I use Kiwi for any crappy site that has issues loading; but I think I've used it once in the last year for that. Samsungs dark mode in their browsers and ad blockers are top notch; you cannot go wrong with them.
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I upvote both Samsung Internet and Beta. I especially like the beta as it allows S-Pen functionality like single click to navigate backwards and double click to navigate forwards. I use Kiwi for any crappy site that has issues loading; but I think I've used it once in the last year for that. Samsungs dark mode in their browsers and ad blockers are top notch; you cannot go wrong with them.
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I may look into how to block the browser from communicating with Samsung too much. I do see it recommended a lot and from what little I have used it, it seems good. I especially like the S-Pen functionality, that sounds cool.
I'm closer to being sold on Samsung Internet after seeing you can use disconnect with it now. Still looking into how and what it reports back to Samsung.
all this time I was sitting on a little gem! Thanks to all who recommended Samsung browser, it's really good!
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all this time I was sitting on a little gem! Thanks to all who recommended Samsung browser, it's really good!
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Just make sure you get the adguard and disconnect add-ons. They will speed things up and keep you safer. I am switching to it for now and am surprised at how fast and smooth it is.
Oh! Also go into settings>privacy and security and turn off customization service to turn off the Samsung tracking and turn on do not track.
Which ad blocker addon for Samsung Internet browser do you guys find the best?
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I've been enjoying the old version of Samsung Internet beta that still has the built in video assistant:
https://www.sammobile.com/apk/samsung-internet-beta/samsung-internet-browser-beta-8-2-01-2/
Ps. Get a VPN imo IMO exspressvpn
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Which ad blocker addon for Samsung Internet browser do you guys find the best?
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I've been enjoying the old version of Samsung Internet beta that still has the built in video assistant:
https://www.sammobile.com/apk/samsung-internet-beta/samsung-internet-browser-beta-8-2-01-2/
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I actually use 3 of them, try them all!
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With Samsung Internet is there any way to do the double tap and pull zoom method? I use that all the time to zoom with one hand and it doesn't seem to work on Samsung but it does in Chrome
Just an opinion if privacy/data collection/trackers/cookies/scripts are an annoyance try reading this. It's called Orfox browser and is built with privacy in mind & is a modified version of Firefox. If you are wanting even more privacy run it with orbot. I could go into depth with all the possibilities but maybe reading for yourself would help you understand how it all works better than me trying to describe how it works. Orfox browser is the Firefox based privacy browser and orbot is basically a VPN that hides your IP by bouncing your connection through many other people, countries & such making it very hard for anyone to track it back to you. Your internet habits, location, cookies, trackers and so on are just pieces of the bigger data collection picture. I suggest that you don't visit the darknet or websites that end in .onion but regular websites ending in .com or .ca or .org or .net for example. You may run into some pretty explicit, violent, depraved, sick, drugs, weapons, & anything illegal you can imagine, and then some. If privacy is a HUGE concern maybe search videos on Orfox & Orbot Privacy on YouTube. If you just want the browser for privacy here is the link & info. Be warned, never use sensitive data such as email addresses, passwords, bank/credit card info, or anything personal on the darknet or sites ending in .onion because any of the many middle servers re-routing your traffic can see your info if they have the knowledge. I'd stick to just Orfox, & when sending sensitive data, just check and hope the site begins with https:// not just http:// and avoid Orbot with Orfox combo. Everything we do is being watched by "big brother" & it makes me sick. Maybe one day we will not have to take extra measures to keep our business our business & not a commodity to be traded & sold. One last note, turning anything dealing with your location to off in the settings does nothing. Google can still see where you are, buildings you enter, they know if you are walking, driving, cycling, your speed, elevation & much more. Only way to not have your location tracked is to power your phone completely off if you wish to not share all of that info. Kind of defeats the purpose of having a phone if we have to resort to keeping it off. How do we receive calls then? Big thanks to Google.com, Samsung, Android, & all those that buy trade and sell our very personal info. Lmfao. Like they care. $$$
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.guardianproject.orfox
Try Kiwi browser. Chromium based but privacy centric and has bottom toolbar option and inbuilt adblock ?
TWiiTCH said:
Just an opinion if privacy/data collection/trackers/cookies/scripts are an annoyance try reading this. It's called Orfox browser and is built with privacy in mind & is a modified version of Firefox. If you are wanting even more privacy run it with orbot. I could go into depth with all the possibilities but maybe reading for yourself would help you understand how it all works better than me trying to describe how it works. Orfox browser is the Firefox based privacy browser and orbot is basically a VPN that hides your IP by bouncing your connection through many other people, countries & such making it very hard for anyone to track it back to you. Your internet habits, location, cookies, trackers and so on are just pieces of the bigger data collection picture. I suggest that you don't visit the darknet or websites that end in .onion but regular websites ending in .com or .ca or .org or .net for example. You may run into some pretty explicit, violent, depraved, sick, drugs, weapons, & anything illegal you can imagine, and then some. If privacy is a HUGE concern maybe search videos on Orfox & Orbot Privacy on YouTube. If you just want the browser for privacy here is the link & info. Be warned, never use sensitive data such as email addresses, passwords, bank/credit card info, or anything personal on the darknet or sites ending in .onion because any of the many middle servers re-routing your traffic can see your info if they have the knowledge. I'd stick to just Orfox, & when sending sensitive data, just check and hope the site begins with https:// not just http:// and avoid Orbot with Orfox combo. Everything we do is being watched by "big brother" & it makes me sick. Maybe one day we will not have to take extra measures to keep our business our business & not a commodity to be traded & sold. One last note, turning anything dealing with your location to off in the settings does nothing. Google can still see where you are, buildings you enter, they know if you are walking, driving, cycling, your speed, elevation & much more. Only way to not have your location tracked is to power your phone completely off if you wish to not share all of that info. Kind of defeats the purpose of having a phone if we have to resort to keeping it off. How do we receive calls then? Big thanks to Google.com, Samsung, Android, & all those that buy trade and sell our very personal info. Lmfao. Like they care. $$$
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.guardianproject.orfox
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Why avoid orbot and how do you use orfox without it?
p33l05 said:
Why avoid orbot and how do you use orfox without it?
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You can use orfox just like you would use Firefox. It is more geared towards safety and you can read about it on the developer's website and come up with your own conclusion. It has options such as turning off Scripts and different security settings from low to high depending on how secure you wish your connection to be in terms of trackers and such. When you first launch orfox it will ask you to install Orbot but you can click cancel and use it just as a browser but it is much safer than most of the standard browsers. And the only reason I recommend avoiding Orbot is because it usually ends up leading curious people to the dark web and can very easily lead to your credit card numbers or bank accounts or passwords to email accounts or many other things being stolen because the way it works is it bounces your connection through a whole bunch of other people's PCS and phones and whatever they will be running Orbot on and that's why it is so hard to track somebody when they are using it. I didn't mean for people not to use it just that it is easy to get taken advantage of and even easier to run into things that are mostly illegal and could get someone in serious trouble even if they unintentionally happened upon these sites. I felt the need to give the warning so someone doesn't come back and say you told me this was 100% safe. If you read my post I recommended them to read on the topic and check out YouTube videos before they decide to use Orbot and Tor Fox together.
I'm not sure why you're not using Firefox? I keep going back to it because mostly for the amp link remover. I use Google news and they're all amp links with lots of ads. I need my brother to convert amp pages to regular. Brave didn't have that capability.
p33l05 said:
have you tried BRAVE browser? its based on chromium - I use that mostly
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I just re-read your post... apologies.. it does have a beta sync feature although I haven't tested that yet
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From wikipedia:
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Business_model)
Brave Software has announced that it is developing a feature allowing users to opt in to receiving ads sold by the company in place of ads blocked by the browser.[8][9][10] Brave intends to pay content publishers 55% of the replaced ad revenue. Brave Software, ad partners, and browser users would each be allocated 15% of the revenue. Users would be able to donate their revenue share to content publishers through micropayments.[11]
In a testing version of the browser, Brave targets web ads by analyzing users' anonymized browsing history.[12]