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maybe this is why we still dont have froyo...

First of all, I was going to hang on to my nexus until a hi Res display came along but my wife got a vibrant and I got one free, the point is I've only had it a few weeks and I wasn't following it too closely so I don't even know the original due date for froyo. But this is my 4th android so delays certainly don't surprise me. Anywa, as i understand it the SGS has the same specs as the galaxy tab, and apparently adobe flash is a "disaster" on the tab. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...e-tab-is-an-embarrassing-disaster-2010-11.DTL
So maybe adobe flash on the vibrant has needed special attention. At this rate however I would expect all able galaxy s owners to just buy the nexus s and simply remove themselves from samsung's incapable firmware update team's psychological abuse
I haven't heard complaints about the unofficial versions but maybe they are having trouble stabilizing flash enough for a stable official version such that we have flash working but other bugs exist, maybe getting those bugs ironed negatively affects flash? Or maybe I'm just trying make myself feel better through poor rationalization...

To Be Honest I've Been Running Froyo For A Little While Now And Flash Works Great For Me...
Granted I'm Not on It 24/7 And I'd Rather Use Mobile Sites Most Of The Time.
But When I Do Use Flash It Works Fine

Erickomen27 said:
To Be Honest I've Been Running Froyo For A Little While Now And Flash Works Great For Me...
Granted I'm Not on It 24/7 And I'd Rather Use Mobile Sites Most Of The Time.
But When I Do Use Flash It Works Fine
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Same here only I prefer the full sites and flash works great I've been watching movies streamed from the web and after two hours of non stop use still no problem
Still flashing

I had no problems with flash but I did set it to On-Demand because it lags up the scrolling. xvideo flash videos played with no problem.

But other countries have froyo already, we don't have froyo mostly because we have a modified GalaxyS, think about it like this, Nexus One would always get updates first because they were plain vanilla not modified (touchwiz or SenseUI). I hope I make sense.

dmolition said:
But other countries have froyo already, we don't have froyo mostly because we have a modified GalaxyS, think about it like this, Nexus One would always get updates first because they were plain vanilla not modified (touchwiz or SenseUI). I hope I make sense.
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Yeah I'm definitely reaching, I just start getting antsy when these firmware updates get delayed and we don't hear much from the responsible party/s. I feel like almost every firmware update I've ever received has been delayed, but ive always had HTC phones until now, is Motorola always behind as well?
Also, is froyo actually that late (I mean, I know its devastatingly late seeing as gingerbread will be out before we get it but as far as what vibrant owners were promised....)? What was the original due date?

If flash is always turned it will really have issues, but if your turned it on when you need it, it will work fine like watching videos, you just have to wait for about 10 seconds of loading then it will work fine.

i feel the same as OP =[

Another theory to why Froyo isn't officially out...
... is that they responsible party(s) decided to leak a froyo version first. Than let the developers here at XDA hammer out details, then recover it and put the fixes into their own version to make it better. Maybe that is why leaks comes out to us. So the manufacturers can get free alpha testers and fixes.

I honestly just uninstalled flash. It bogged down my phone too much. As soon as I got rid of it, my browser was back to being speedy.

richiehd said:
I honestly just uninstalled flash. It bogged down my phone too much. As soon as I got rid of it, my browser was back to being speedy.
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Why not just set flash to "on demand" in your browser? It won't load until you click on the flash content. Most browsers support that.

My phone's better with flash if I'm using the skyfire browser. It much faster than the stock.

You are aware that the Nexus S is also a Samsung phone right?

Yes Flash 10.1 does make the browser laggy and presumably consumes more battery due to being a system hog. I am using Obsidian V2 Froyo ROM. There could be work arounds, but it definitely needs optimization for mobile devices.
Now how does this only affect Galaxy S phones and not any other phone running froyo?

Honestly, I'm gonna be pissed if it turns out they held back 2.2 for ****ing *FLASH*.

swehes said:
... is that they responsible party(s) decided to leak a froyo version first. Than let the developers here at XDA hammer out details, then recover it and put the fixes into their own version to make it better. Maybe that is why leaks comes out to us. So the manufacturers can get free alpha testers and fixes.
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Not in the slightest, at the most they watch over to listen for bugs. We got JI2 when they had already moved on to JI4/JI5 and then to JI6. Samsung doesn't work off of stuff here, the developers work off of what Samsung gives us.

rakeshchn said:
Yes Flash 10.1 does make the browser laggy and presumably consumes more battery due to being a system hog. I am using Obsidian V2 Froyo ROM. There could be work arounds, but it definitely needs optimization for mobile devices.
Now how does this only affect Galaxy S phones and not any other phone running froyo?
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Not sure but with apps now poppimg up statimg no support for galaxy s I think I shouls have steered clear of them and their hummingbird...
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flash player 10.1 question

Is there a full version (not lite) working on the epic? I picked up my epic yesterday, came from the hero. Im rooted with the syndicate rom, but noticed the "fully loaded" version only had the flash lite...is the full 10.1 not available?
Ive searched around the forum but searching for anything with "flash" doesnt exactly narrow down the results very well, lol.

myke66 said:
Is there a full version (not lite) working on the epic? I picked up my epic yesterday, came from the hero. Im rooted with the syndicate rom, but noticed the "fully loaded" version only had the flash lite...is the full 10.1 not available?
Ive searched around the forum but searching for anything with "flash" doesnt exactly narrow down the results very well, lol.
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Flash player 10.1 won't be available ntil we get FroYo - feel free to join that drama if you want to. I am tempted to go back to the hero over all the babies around here.

Kcarpenter said:
Flash player 10.1 won't be available ntil we get FroYo - feel free to join that drama if you want to. I am tempted to go back to the hero over all the babies around here.
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Hey I remember you from the Hero I noticed the drama but have no idea what its all about. Is it surrounding Froyo? Would love to get filled in sometime
Here's another question...any issuses with the syndicate rom and getting headphones to work? I use an AUX cable to listen to music in my car, and on the hero it switched to headphones when plugged in, but on the epic it doesnt change and keeps outputting sound through the phone. Any ideas?

Ya, I just landed here a week ago, also coming from hero. I have got to agree about the drama. This is actually my Third xda community and I have never seen such a climate. Hope it calms down. I come here for cooperation.

That seems to be an issue with non-stock kernels, or if you are running tock, you aren't running the most current firmware, they have fixed it. I'm running froyo and loving it. I am still using dj29, no dk05. I don't see the need, everything I want works, ujust missing 2 paid apps in the market (understandable due to non official business). Got hulu working great, created a bookmark shortcut to go to the widget player so I can run it fullscreen in landscape. Love this phone, just ignore the drama. I have made 0 comments on it cause really, I don't care, I'm happy as a pig in **** with my froyo. There is definitely a battery boost, too as long as you wipe battery stats properly.
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rufflez2010 said:
That seems to be an issue with non-stock kernels, or if you are running tock, you aren't running the most current firmware, they have fixed it. I'm running froyo and loving it. I am still using dj29, no dk05. I don't see the need, everything I want works, ujust missing 2 paid apps in the market (understandable due to non official business). Got hulu working great, created a bookmark shortcut to go to the widget player so I can run it fullscreen in landscape. Love this phone, just ignore the drama. I have made 0 comments on it cause really, I don't care, I'm happy as a pig in **** with my froyo. There is definitely a battery boost, too as long as you wipe battery stats properly.
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Thanks for the heads up, i read somewhere else about the headset not working on non-stock kernals. Guess that solves that mystery!

HTC aria 2.2.2 update review

So I decided I'd give the new official update for the HTC aria a shot despite all the talk about not being able to root it yet. So far some pretty important things I've noticed is the fact that there is no sideloading. I saw someone on here say that it would be able to sideload - incorrect. The second big thing is the fact that it does not have the touchpad button wake. You have to use the power button which is a huge flaw for me. Someone also said that it would be capable of overclocking- as far as I know right now I don't think you can, but I can't be 100% sure yet because of the lack of sideloading and the 4.99 for setcpu. Some of the cool new features I do like is the mobile hotspot capabilities, live wallpapers, and the market update. So now I want to see what others have to say about it. Please come tell me what you've found!
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Can you not sideload w/ this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine

Hmm ill try that today after school
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That's what I used to sl when I first got this phone.
cjtulowiecki said:
Hmm ill try that today after school
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Did it work?

I want to understand ..
The updates are made automatically?
If I purchased from ebay the device in 3 / 3 and it had not arrived yet, am I expected to see within 2.2 and unable to root?

havlaz said:
I want to understand ..
The updates are made automatically?
If I purchased from ebay the device in 3 / 3 and it had not arrived yet, am I expected to see within 2.2 and unable to root?
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Did you purchase a used phone? Was it already rooted? Did the seller install the latest update from HTC/AT&T?
The 2.2 update from at&t is not an Over-the-air (OTA) update. It's offered by at&t via the HTC web site. The update, therefore, takes work on the user's part. It's not automatic.
That said, if you purchase a phone from eBay that is factory fresh from at&t, it's possible it already has the 2.2 update - I put the odds at 50%.
For what it's worth, the only thing wrong with the stock build of this device's ROM is the at&t bloatware/crapware. Other than that, it's a solid device, and there are ways to customize the phone to your liking.
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cjtulowiecki said:
So I decided I'd give the new official update for the HTC aria a shot despite all the talk about not being able to root it yet. So far some pretty important things I've noticed is the fact that there is no sideloading. I saw someone on here say that it would be able to sideload - incorrect. The second big thing is the fact that it does not have the touchpad button wake. You have to use the power button which is a huge flaw for me. Someone also said that it would be capable of overclocking- as far as I know right now I don't think you can, but I can't be 100% sure yet because of the lack of sideloading and the 4.99 for setcpu. Some of the cool new features I do like is the mobile hotspot capabilities, live wallpapers, and the market update. So now I want to see what others have to say about it. Please come tell me what you've found!
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don't worry about side-loading.
Use the stock HTC sync software that came with your Aria - when prompted to update, don't do it!

DanGeorges said:
Did you purchase a used phone? Was it already rooted? Did the seller install the latest update from HTC/AT&T?
The 2.2 update from at&t is not an Over-the-air (OTA) update. It's offered by at&t via the HTC web site. The update, therefore, takes work on the user's part. It's not automatic.
That said, if you purchase a phone from eBay that is factory fresh from at&t, it's possible it already has the 2.2 update - I put the odds at 50%.
For what it's worth, the only thing wrong with the stock build of this device's ROM is the at&t bloatware/crapware. Other than that, it's a solid device, and there are ways to customize the phone to your liking.
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i'm from israel, and i need RTL
i don't care about the rom,
and to change the framework.jar i need root...
here is the buy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...DuFKhKg%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I got an hk/tw region phone and sideload is enabled natively

havlaz said:
i'm from israel, and i need RTL
i don't care about the rom,
and to change the framework.jar i need root...
here is the buy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...DuFKhKg%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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If it is what it looks like, (US version/AT&T branded) then you should be able to root no problem with unrevoked
http://unrevoked.com/#aria
I'm not sure about enabling RTL support, but I think people have been talking about it on these forums.

At first my phone felt quick when it was processing, but initial response to screen presses felt slightly laggy. I was concerned. But after running it for a few weeks now, without a task killer, it feels like quite a quick more featured phone. Seems like there was a calibration and optimization duration there. Maybe it's in my head? Very happy with the upgrade, especially for apps to SD!
Oh, and add gingerbread keyboard from the market and the phone is twice as good!
Sent from my HTC Aria using XDA App

You can do side loading by using android injector. You can find it at at harmonyhollow or softpedia. Just type in Android Injector at google. It also allows you to install multiple apps at the same time.

Call_er_Roxie said:
At first my phone felt quick when it was processing, but initial response to screen presses felt slightly laggy. I was concerned. But after running it for a few weeks now, without a task killer, it feels like quite a quick more featured phone. Seems like there was a calibration and optimization duration there. Maybe it's in my head? Very happy with the upgrade, especially for apps to SD!
Oh, and add gingerbread keyboard from the market and the phone is twice as good!
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How do you get Apps to SD to work on this rom?
In the past I was using Darktremor's a2sd preinstalled on the Liberated Aria roms.
I am now on the Liberated version of the rom (thanks to Gene Poole - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970272), but I don't know how to do apps2sd here. I have my sdcard partitioned with ext3 (512 Mb), but it's not getting used automatically.

Tx Redneck said:
Can you not sideload w/ this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine
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This is what I use to sideload and it works perfectly

ROFL 2.2.2 STILL NO ROOT if I was the owner of this phone id sell it!crap

OTA or Not?

My daughter has the EVO Shift. Have there been any problems with the new OTA Gingerbread update? Pro's and con's versus stock? I don't care to root her's because she doesn't really care. I like my rooted Evo4g though.

If you could careless about root then I would definitely say to take the ota update. What you'll get is an updated sense (which is pretty nice looking), new radios for wimax, and most importantly updated to gingerbread. I tried the rooted version of the new update and I like it but it doesn't really compare to custom roms so I didn't stick to it.
So basically stock 2.2 versus ota 2.3, I would say take the ota.

Some people, me included, are having problems after the update where every time you exit from an app you go to the white HTC and then it takes 10 seconds to refresh the home screen. This is very annoying. I called Sprint and there was two fixes. One to increase the size of my internal memory by clearing some files and moving apps to my SD card. The second fix was try sent me an OTA fix which was a fancy name for a refresh. All seems to be working now.
I am using the standard ROM
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Yeah I was having the same problem when sense would crash and all I would be doing is texting, so I went back to aosp for now
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It works good the battery life it a tad better my 3g signal is almost double.if u dont need to be rooted go ahead and update u wont regret unlike me i regret it cus i liked all the rooted apps and etc.
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issues
for me i have a lot of bugs in the rom. i found a lot of apps and the OS to lock up from time to time and not work properly. i end up rebooting the rom to get it to work again.
NO ROOT ACESSS on this rom so if your like me your stuck with a crappy rom until a fix comes out.

I'm quite happy with the update other than the lack of root. No problems at all. So, if root isn't important to you, i really see no reason to not update.

GB Update reviews.

I just want to see how everyone feels about the official update. My niece has my old epic rooted with a ec05 rom. I just want to see if I should get her to update.
So whats your thoughts, first impressions, battery life and all.

cdszoke said:
I just want to see how everyone feels about the official update. My niece has my old epic rooted with a ec05 rom. I just want to see if I should get her to update.
So whats your thoughts, first impressions, battery life and all.
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Well here's my two cents...gps lock is not fixed...root is currently impossible to retain with the stock kernel. You need some kind of modified kernel to keep root. Keyboard lag is still present unless your rooted and install a fix.
These above listed items do have remedies, however they require a custom rom or multiple patches to fix.
That being said...if you always run stock there are no additional negatives. Gingerbread is much faster,smoother and cleaner imo. Take it from there.
Here's a link to all the advancements thus far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19155759
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Still waiting on the offical version.
But I have been running swiss cheese samsprint for months with no issues at all. Everything fully functional.

chkchkboom said:
You need some kind of modified kernel to keep root. Keyboard lag is still present unless your rooted and install a fix.
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I think both of these statements are wrong based on my experience.
I have root and have no modified kernel. I think you can keep root without a fix, what you can't keep is a custom recovery program (like CWM).
I have had no keyboard lag so far. If it is there, it is definitely MUCH better than the previous version.

Milkman00 said:
I think both of these statements are wrong based on my experience.
I have root and have no modified kernel. I think you can keep root without a fix, what you can't keep is a custom recovery program (like CWM).
I have had no keyboard lag so far. If it is there, it is definitely MUCH better than the previous version.
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Wait what?

The Root said:
Wait what?
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What was unclear?

Milkman00 said:
I think both of these statements are wrong based on my experience.
I have root and have no modified kernel. I think you can keep root without a fix, what you can't keep is a custom recovery program (like CWM).
I have had no keyboard lag so far. If it is there, it is definitely MUCH better than the previous version.
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It is not incorrect...just incomplete...I think its foolish to have root without a good means of nandroid backup and custom recovery.
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chkchkboom said:
It is not incorrect...just incomplete...I think its foolish to have root without a good means of nandroid backup and custom recovery.
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I have backup with Mybackup and Titanium, so I am more than happy with my backup options. ROOT itself is very important to me (and a lot of other people), so given the option I would rather have root and no custom recovery program, as opposed to a custom recovery program and no root.
A very important distinction to make.

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No, just unnerving that they'd have such a forceful recovery program. Samsung has been sneaking little locks in things lately. Odin can break them but it's frustrating that they've gone down this road.

The Root said:
No, just unnerving that they'd have such a forceful recovery program. Samsung has been sneaking little locks in things lately. Odin can break them but it's frustrating that they've gone down this road.
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ah gotcha.

there really is no point in staying on froyo ec05 now. the only thing i could think of that would keep me on it would be SRF1.2 but since you didnt mention she had that i would say just update it for her. Things are quicker, snappier. The OS is built to be more stable and just all around better for the phone than the froyo version was.

The Root said:
No, just unnerving that they'd have such a forceful recovery program. Samsung has been sneaking little locks in things lately. Odin can break them but it's frustrating that they've gone down this road.
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+1.... I didn't want to be the theorist.
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Keyboard works so damn well!! Seriously its never worked this well for me. I'm running the deodexed build with nubernel so I dunno if there are any key lag hack built in or not.
Cd's or tapes?

My main beef with my phone has been fixed with this update. Music playback was annoying. Didn't matter if it was stock player or PowerAmp, I would get a weird hiccup at about 3 seconds into every song. On top of that, I could hear some electrical crackling when doing certain things while listening to music, especially while using wired tether. Gingerbread has eliminated it and music playback has been flawless for me all day so far. Not even a little click when the screen goes on/off anymore.

No doubt this phone still needs to be rooted with some patches just to make it useable. I'm disappointed samsprint took this long and still left so many of the original issues that shipped with the phone on eclair.
Basically it has the exact same widgets and touchwiz as always but with the underlying os updated to gingerbread.
I was hoping we would get the sgs 2 version of tw with the new widgets, and see the keyboard, and gps working out of the box.
Also the browser is pissing me off. It removed the zoom buttons and double tap isn't zooming in anymore...?
Its not all bad. With the gps fix (flashed in cwm) I'm getting better gps locks than ever before on this phone. Also the system as a whole is a bit faster. Unfortunately you will still make tradeoffs by updating.
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Tap to zoom works on non-mobile websites in the browser. Using my /data hack I was able to change default text size also.
Notification LED does in fact appear to be fixed...but there is a very long time between blinks (something like 20 seconds), would be much happier with a 2 sec blink. It is so slow, I thought it was not working.

redvexx said:
Still waiting on the offical version.
But I have been running swiss cheese samsprint for months with no issues at all. Everything fully functional.
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You have to be on EC05 to get the update. It wont work on EE03.
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chkchkboom said:
+1.... I didn't want to be the theorist.
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Not theory. The lock patches on Galaxy Tab are a pain. So happy I got on In Paris so quickly.

|| Acer || said:
You have to be on EC05 to get the update. It wont work on EE03.
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So I wont even get the notification of an update?
I'm not sure If I even want it considering I have been using this ROM with no issues.

redvexx said:
So I wont even get the notification of an update?
I'm not sure If I even want it considering I have been using this ROM with no issues.
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No u will not get the notification but I would recommend updating to the latest since I can say it will be more stable than one of the oldest gb builds out for this phone
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metalblaster said:
there really is no point in staying on froyo ec05 now. the only thing i could think of that would keep me on it would be SRF1.2 but since you didnt mention she had that i would say just update it for her. Things are quicker, snappier. The OS is built to be more stable and just all around better for the phone than the froyo version was.
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Sorry I forgot to mention I put srf 1.2 on it before I sent her the phone.