I want to start this threat to put together information in order to sort out why the device lock delay (see below) appears and how to solve it.
wm6.5 device lock app has changed from "tap here and next there" to a slider style like app you know from s2u2.
problem:
device lock is enabled
Code:
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDeviceLockEnable=1
wake up the device by short pressing the power button
device lock screen is displayed instantly
it takes ~2 seconds until the slider of the device lock screen is activated and can be slided.
if you use device lock it becomes really annyoing.
there are some threads about this like this one, but the solution is not working on a Touch HD.
can anybody sched some light onthe problem why and where it appears or maybe someone already found a solution.
please post any useful information.
please do not post tips like use s2u2 or any other locking app - I do not want to use them.
the only thing i can thing of is use s2u2 or any other locking app
egoist6 said:
please do not post tips like use s2u2 or any other locking app - I do not want to use them.
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cookiemonster55 said:
the only thing i can thing of is use s2u2 or any other locking app
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cookiemonster, either you didn't read his post or you're a sort of a jerk.
And yes, in response to the poster, I have the same problem.
Zoltair Wright said:
cookiemonster, either you didn't read his post or you're a sort of a jerk.
And yes, in response to the poster, I have the same problem.
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latest build 23001 still has this annoying delay
Iv noticed this too... The biggest annoyance for me is you turn the device on and the backlight isnt very bright, makes it near impossible to see the screen in daylight. Is it possible to have the backlight come on full when you press the power button?
i have this problem too. i think it is a serious bug of wm6.5
just hoping it will be fixed when the official release come out.
god i thought i was the only one, something about my config...
and i was exited about the new 6.5 lock screen,
but then it works like all the other M$ 6.5 sh!t, it doesn't
had to switch away from it
May be this help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527219
A1983 said:
May be this help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527219
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thanks for your help - but that was the solution i am talking about in my first post and unfortunately does not work.
also find this intensely annoying! if you look, on my hd, in the top left corner a small windows flag appears to indicate that the slider is locked, it disappears once the slider is active, and there is a definite exact time out, i dont think its random or a load time
hope this is sorted cos its rubbish!
regards
mat
What I've done that got rid of most of the delays regarding the lock screen on my Xperia:
I got 6 cpr files from my device's /Windows directory: LS_LockScene_xxxxxxx.cpr, LS_AlarmScene_xxxxxxx.cpr and LS_PhoneAlertScene_xxxxxxx.cpr. Get files that fit the resolution of your device, they are in pairs for portrait and landscape
opened each one of them in a text editor (they are XMLs inside)
removed all "ControlSequence" sections from them (those sections are small (like 4 entries) and big (up to 21 entries). These sections are animations of arrows. Arrows will still be there after that, they just won't animate.
uploaded cpr files back to /Windows, overwriting originals
soft-reseted.
Hope it works on your devices too
lemat1 said:
also find this intensely annoying! if you look, on my hd, in the top left corner a small windows flag appears to indicate that the slider is locked, it disappears once the slider is active, and there is a definite exact time out, i dont think its random or a load time
hope this is sorted cos its rubbish!
regards
mat
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yeah. and with 6.5 23003 onwards in the top right corner an "X" (for close) appears. only when it goes off you can access the slider.
it seems as if an app is started.
pikipirs said:
What I've done that got rid of most of the delays regarding the lock screen on my Xperia:
I got 6 cpr files from my device's /Windows directory: LS_LockScene_xxxxxxx.cpr, LS_AlarmScene_xxxxxxx.cpr and LS_PhoneAlertScene_xxxxxxx.cpr. Get files that fit the resolution of your device, they are in pairs for portrait and landscape
opened each one of them in a text editor (they are XMLs inside)
removed all "ControlSequence" sections from them (those sections are small (like 4 entries) and big (up to 21 entries). These sections are animations of arrows. Arrows will still be there after that, they just won't animate.
uploaded cpr files back to /Windows, overwriting originals
soft-reseted.
Hope it works on your devices too
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great. that helped a lot!
now the lock screen is flickering shortly and the whole lock screen slides in once more from the bottom to the top but then the slider is instantly accessible.
from a time perspective a great improvement!
update:
basically you can delete the whole layer
Code:
<Layer ID="SlidePath" >
...
</Layer>
which removes the animation of the arrows and the arrows themselves.
do not delete this section if you do not know in which direction to slide the button
however, the delay is still ~1 second. but i think i can live with that allthough it is annoying to wait one stupid second to proceed
the delay you get when recieving a call with lockscreen on is caused by the slide to answer feature of alot of the new dialers. it conflicts with the popup call answer screen with wm 6.5. to fix this can find a dialer that doesnt have slide to answer feature. the backlight problem came from backlight.dll in the kaiser, using a new one from stock rom now and it works perfect
If you enable the enter a pin number after slide, there is no delay at all. I know this isnt a solution i hate entering a pin. however, i have a felling the pin app is running in the background and thus you dont get the flicker where it flicks from Start menu back to the lock app. Hence if you could create a dummy pin app, it could work to stop the delay.
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the delay you get when recieving a call with lockscreen on is caused by the slide to answer feature of alot of the new dialers. it conflicts with the popup call answer screen with wm 6.5. to fix this can find a dialer that doesnt have slide to answer feature. the backlight problem came from backlight.dll in the kaiser, using a new one from stock rom now and it works perfect
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thanks for your reply. but i also have the delay when simply waking up the device by pressing the power button (without receiving a call)
xternal said:
If you enable the enter a pin number after slide, there is no delay at all. I know this isnt a solution i hate entering a pin. however, i have a felling the pin app is running in the background and thus you dont get the flicker where it flicks from Start menu back to the lock app. Hence if you could create a dummy pin app, it could work to stop the delay.
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that's true. i replaced LS_SimplePinScene_480x800.cpr with an empty one and allthough not using pinlock, the lock app did not work at all.
What if we designed something where when you slide it calls a mortscript or something and enters 0000+OK to by pass the pin screen (assuming you set pin to 0000). Then you edit the Pin screen so it is just a clear page, so you dont even see the pin screen flash up.
Not sure if this is at all possible as im not a programmer. Just a thought
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What if we designed something where when you slide it calls a mortscript or something and enters 0000+OK to by pass the pin screen (assuming you set pin to 0000). Then you edit the Pin screen so it is just a clear page, so you dont even see the pin screen flash up.
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good idea. maybe someone can change LS_SimplePinScene_480x800.cpr so that it does not expect the pin from screen but is embedded directly into the cpr file?
can anybody who has a better understanding of cpr files or the lock app give us some tips?
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Not sure if this is at all possible as im not a programmer. Just a thought
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me neither
I have been patiently waiting for the update that was made available yesterday afternoon so I downloaded and updated my phone. Since it resets everything I really didn't get around to doing much with it last night. This morning I started to get my phone setup and noticed the sensitivity seems to have worsened, sometimes considerably, over what I had before.
Scrolling has become less responsive, the X (close) button needs to be pressed a few times rather frequently, the buttons on the bottom row of the screen do not seem to respond very well either anymore, and lastly it just doesn't quite feel the same. Of all the problems I have been having with my HD2, screen sensitivity (accuracy could be a bit better) was not one of them until now.
Is there a way to calibrate the screen that I was not able to find on the phone? Anyone else notice any difference after updating?
Thanks in advance for any help!
I'm having the same issue but over all the new ROM is more stable.
Align
Start > Settings > All Settings > System > Scroll down to Align
Cheers
Also look for an App called TouchMark (think I found it on OMarket).
Neat little App that shows you exactly where you are touching the screen.
Maybe you have lost your touch
Also I use BsB to lower sensitivity of the screen which assists me greatly with typing.
Thanks for the tip but the "align" button is not in that folder on my phone. I searched and didn't find it anywhere else either.
After having a full day use with my phone the screen sensitivity is still a bit flaky, I would say it is worse than it was before I upgraded the rom. As for stableness, I have had several random data disconnects and small lags here and there that I didn't notice before. Unfortunately the audio lag has not been fixed. I should quit while I am ahead.
The summary is I want them to get the basic functionality of the phone to work and in doing so, please do not mess up the few things that are working, such as screen sensitivity. I am curious how long before the next rom update.
On a separate note, does anyone know where we can see a list of what they fixed in this rom?
Thanks!
Align?
Start > Settings > All Settings > System >"""screen""',, then align on mine hd2
??? are people on this thread a little confused??
going to the screen settings is NOT going to fix what the rom update did... the scrolling is considerably worse... not the accuracy...
for some reason, when i scroll through things.. its slow, laggy, and choppy.. its probably the most ridiculous "update" ever.. it simply made the phone worse... i wish i could go back to my previous rom.. before the official update.. i had absolutely NO problems with the scfreen sensitivty.. in fact.. i had no issues with it at all.. don't even know why i upgraded... pity...
and there is a fix thread floating around the TMobile HD2 forusm somewhere.. but that fix doesn't even get it remotely close to how it used to be.. now if someone could report exactly what the settings are on the stock TMoUS rom in the registry BEFORE updating to the official update.. it would help out enormously for the hackers who can fix what TMo has done to our phones...
people people dont fret!! just install HD2Tweak and look for the option that allows you to increase sensitivity and there ya go! there are 4 levels of sensitivity and i set mine to high and its perfect.
Iquigley- Unfortunately I do not have a "Screen" button in my system folder...
Just to clarify my original post in case it was confusing, although I believe accuracy could be better I did not notice a change in the accuracy of the screen, just a drop in sensitivity. Scrolling now has a tendency to stick and launch an app instead of actually scrolling. That doesn't seem to be happening as much now so I might have just adjusted to the new "feel" of the phone.
Can anyone confirm that it is just a setting that needs to be changed? At this point I avoid adding new apps to the phone if possible since I am afraid it will break something :s
Thanks!
The screen option in settings is hidden on the T-Mobile HTC HD2. You can make it visible in the registry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Pen
Set the value of "Hide" to 0 (currently it is 1). Then the screen option will be visible in the system folder under all settings.
i went to do the registry change and cant find pen under control panel, is it under another sub folder?
Thanks Tobiascrystal. I am confused why they would have that hidden in the first place. I have been trying to avoid having to change registry settings but I might just be shooting myself in the foot by doing so. I will check it out.
Hi,
I have observed in a few apps a certain problem: Some apps don't support the NST side buttons, so I scroll by swiping my finger over the screen. In most apps this works.
But there are a few where it does not work properly: Somehow these apps seem to have a problem interpreting my swipe correctly. Sometimes they correctly interpret it as attempt to scroll down, but very often they will also interpret it as an attempt to scroll up, even though I am making the same movement. This way reading a long article is really annoying because you always get sent back to the top of the article.
Apps in which I have observed this: Wapedia, International Herald Tribune, Read It Later (this last one does not exist anymore, as it has been replaced by "Pocket" which does not work on Android 2.1).
All of these apps seem to show exactly the same problem, so I suspect a common cause.
Did anyone make similar observations or maybe even has an idea for a fix?
Thanks!
I have the same problem for some apps. If I do long swipe up most of the screen there is no problem.
But it is annoying when I forget.
I'm setting up a tradeshow display for my company, we're using 3 Nexus 10s in a bent 36"x36" panel. They'll just be looping video, though interactivity may be added to one of them later on. Before I got the Nexus 10s I tested some apps on my Note II that disable the touchscreen because I wanted to prevent anyone from interfering with the looping video.
Unfortunately, I've come to find that while those apps will disable interacting with the main content, it doesn't prevent the Home/Back/etc buttons from working on the bottom bar on the Nexus 10. Additionally, it seems to prevent the video from going completely full screen, leaving the Home/Back/etc icon bar up.
Does anyone have any ideas on how I might truly disable the touchscreen once I have video going? Even if it meant requiring a full reboot to restore touch, that would be fine with me, for the most part we'd just set it and forget it. Some way to just crash or disable the touch screen driver? I'm not rooted right now, but I can be if that's what it takes.
Otherwise we'll end up going with clear acrylic overlays with magnets in them for quick access to the screen,that approach is just generally uglier though, and I'd love to avoid it.
Thanks for any suggestions.
what about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266402
then use your existing disable touch program from there?
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what about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266402
then use your existing disable touch program from there?
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Perfect, this is exactly what I was looking for. I ended up using a similar app called full!screen that allowed me to specify two touch areas but then make the icons for those tiny/transparent. BSPlayer has a lock so that casual interaction with the device won't do much. From there I can probably fully lock the touchscreen and have it only unlock with a triple tape or messing with a hardware button (only the operator will have access to the buttons, it's mounted inside an enclosure).
You're a hero, chaos. Many thanks to you.
i dropped my phone the other night and it cracked. its cracked on the botton right where the recents button is and i cant use that are of the screen (basically is unresponsive) but the rest of the screen works absolutely fine and i just rotate the screen if i need to access something in that are that i cant access. Was wondering what i need to replace to fix it ?
will also attach pictures to show what are exactly is affected.
amaaha said:
i dropped my phone the other night and it cracked. its cracked on the botton right where the recents button is and i cant use that are of the screen (basically is unresponsive) but the rest of the screen works absolutely fine and i just rotate the screen if i need to access something in that are that i cant access. Was wondering what i need to replace to fix it ?
will also attach pictures to show what are exactly is affected.
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You would need to change the entire front screen to actually fix the problem !! However if you don't want to spend the amount (in my country its around 80 dallars) you can download switchr app from play store !! It helps you to switch and kill apps just like the recents button. If the other buttons also don't work like the home and back ull need to root your phone and download LMT launcher from the market. It is almost like pie control which you find on ParanoidAndroid .
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You would need to change the entire front screen to actually fix the problem !! However if you don't want to spend the amount (in my country its around 80 dallars) you can download switchr app from play store !! It helps you to switch and kill apps just like the recents button. If the other buttons also don't work like the home and back ull need to root your phone and download LMT launcher from the market. It is almost like pie control which you find on ParanoidAndroid .
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Okay i went to repair shop and they quoted me $300 which is bit expensive since i could put a little bit more and get the nexus 5 but i want to spend the minimum amount possible and have a phone that works.. So what exactly do i need to buy to fix it ? do i need to buy the lcd or the touch screen ? or are there more parts that i need to get because i want to know what it might add up to for all the parts that are needed.
Also i don't think the switchr app would solve my problem because basically any app or button that is in that area, i can not use since that area of the screen is unresponsive. I'm assuming something to do with the touchscreen is broken over there ? in that bottom right area of the screen that i showed in the earlier picture i attached. I can stilll use the phone because the rest of the area is still normal, but i dont know how long it will be for since its cracked and could spread. and at times if there is something in that area that i need to access, for example certain parts of the keyboard or an app, i rotate the screen and that way i can still use it though some apps do not rotate at all and that makes things impossible.