Ok, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I was messing around on my gtablet, and it was somewhat dark so i couldn't see the capacitive buttons, which made me mistakenly keep touching them. It really got on my nerves, so i went in and found a way to disable them. I searched through the forums just to make sure there wasn't a specific post already for this, and correct me if im wrong, but i did not see one.
So without further ado, here is the mod.
Disable:Disable Capacitive Buttons
Re-Enable:Re-Enable Capacitive Buttons
I've tested this on Flashback 10.0, but should work on any older honeycomb roms. It may work on gingerbread, but i haven't tested it yet. Feel free to try!!
Is this is flashable through cwm?
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Sorry everybody, for some reason it just isn't working. Ill take a look at it later and try to figure it all out
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This has already been addressed, it works perfectly - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177174
I would love to do this but unfortunately sometimes my on screen buttons don't always react to the touch. Plus, some apps don't allow me to click the menu button (or settings button, not sure) and I have to click the press the capacitive button.
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So i dont no how to write apps but i have a great idea that maybe someone here can work on.
when the phone is locked and the screen is off its a little inconvienet to press the on/off button on the top of the phone to unlock the device.
so how about if there was way to swipe across the four buttons (home, menu, back, and search) at the bottom and unlock the device liek that.
i would really like that and i think so woulda alota other peepz
They're capacitive buttons they won't register touches without the screen being on
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peepz
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I love peepz, they are delicious. Especially the yellow ones.
Awesome idea. I'm steer there had to be some way to get it to work. Might consider making a request thread in the dev forum and see what people say. You could always hit the power button to wake up the phone just like normal unlock then use the bottom buttons to unlock like you said. Either way, cool idea.
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I am not sure how others take notes and avoid this issue, but when I attempt to take notes on the Note, almost always my palm touches the "Menu" or the "Back" capacitive button and the note in progress either gets saved or cancelled.
I was looking forward to writing on the note extensively for note-taking, but it seems impossible with the palm touching the capacitive buttons. Would a developer with know-how on this subject look into disabling the capacitive buttons while taking notes with the S Pen and the palm placed on the screen, or devise another solution? Thanks for exploring this issue in advance.
Please note:
Anyone commenting on this thread, I appreciate your intentions, but please DO NOT suggest ANY OTHER APP. I am purely focused on the S Note and Memo apps.
Well there is a way to disable the buttons on many roms already. Are you talking about a way to do it while unrooted? And are you trying to keep the touchwiz interface and use the smemo app??
No, You can turn the light off, but the button sup works. I think he wants to disable then completely.
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No, You can turn the light off, but the button sup works. I think he wants to disable then completely.
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Yes, I was wondering if the buttons can be disabled completely while taking notes, regardless of the ROM. Taking notes while the palm is lifted off the screen is just not natural and am not sure how Samsung saw people writing like that.
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incisivekeith said:
I am not sure how others take notes and avoid this issue, but when I attempt to take notes on the Note, almost always my palm touches the "Menu" or the "Back" capacitive button and the note in progress either gets saved or cancelled.
I was looking forward to writing on the note extensively for note-taking, but it seems impossible with the palm touching the capacitive buttons. Would a developer with know-how on this subject look into disabling the capacitive buttons while taking notes with the S Pen and the palm placed on the screen, or devise another solution? Thanks for exploring this issue in advance.
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There are few apps in the market that have palm reject feature. This will disable the capacitive buttons.
Even the standard s memo should have this feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24989757&postcount=4537
here is a script to disable the capitative buttons, it works perfectly on stunners rom ( haven't tried on any others ) and with the euphoria control you can disable the lights so those buttons are gone forever
I think this issue has been addressed in the new ICS stock ROM. For example, if you use your finger to press the capacitive button in S Memo, the button will work as intended. But if you place your entire palm on the right-lower part of the screen (including the capacitive button), the button doesn't respond. I just tried writing a long note with my palm resting on the screen and the capacitive button, and the app was working fine.)
I don't know if it makes a difference, but in the S Memo settings, I had set the screen to only respond to S Pen edits. Just FYI.
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I think this issue has been addressed in the new ICS stock ROM. For example, if you use your finger to press the capacitive button in S Memo, the button will work as intended. But if you place your entire palm on the right-lower part of the screen (including the capacitive button), the button doesn't respond. I just tried writing a long note with my palm resting on the screen and the capacitive button, and the app was working fine.)
I don't know if it makes a difference, but in the S Memo settings, I had set the screen to only respond to S Pen edits. Just FYI.
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Setting the screen to respond to just the pen helps a lot actually, but as you slide down while writing, the palm becomes less of a palm surface and touches the back button and the note gets saved. So it would greatly help of someone can disable the capacitive buttons altogether until some action is taken to wake them up.
The script suggested in the post above seems like an option but a simpler solution would be great.
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incisivekeith said:
I am not sure how others take notes and avoid this issue, but when I attempt to take notes on the Note, almost always my palm touches the "Menu" or the "Back" capacitive button and the note in progress either gets saved or cancelled.
I was looking forward to writing on the note extensively for note-taking, but it seems impossible with the palm touching the capacitive buttons. Would a developer with know-how on this subject look into disabling the capacitive buttons while taking notes with the S Pen and the palm placed on the screen, or devise another solution? Thanks for exploring this issue in advance.
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It will be nice if someone can help to disable this annoying button.
There's no way to detect the palm everywhere - it would require quite a few painful changes in AOSP.
There is obviously a way to disable capacitive buttons totally, but you'd need to reboot to toggle.
As I said before since the later releases of GB rom , when using s memo , there is an auto detect feature which rejects palm and also disables the capacitive buttons.
Try pressing the capacitive button with the s pen close to the screen.
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As I said before since the later releases of GB rom , when using s memo , there is an auto detect feature which rejects palm and also disables the capacitive buttons.
Try pressing the capacitive button with the s pen close to the screen.
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I confirm. I'm on official ics and the capacitive buttons are disabled when the pen is too close to the screen (and it's anywhere not only in smemo)
Now, I got the trick. Usually I put my palm before the pen reaches the screen.
User should put the pen then they can put his palm wherever he wants, nothing will happen both buttons are disabled.
TEST in ICS official LPY.
Thanks a lot.
Damn ... This was what i trying to say from the begining...
yyl said:
I think this issue has been addressed in the new ICS stock ROM. For example, if you use your finger to press the capacitive button in S Memo, the button will work as intended. But if you place your entire palm on the right-lower part of the screen (including the capacitive button), the button doesn't respond. I just tried writing a long note with my palm resting on the screen and the capacitive button, and the app was working fine.)
I don't know if it makes a difference, but in the S Memo settings, I had set the screen to only respond to S Pen edits. Just FYI.
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Thanks buddy. Now I can take notes with my palm resting.
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iT iS Me said:
Now, I got the trick. Usually I put my palm before the pen reaches the screen.
User should put the pen then they can put his palm wherever he wants, nothing will happen both buttons are disabled.
TEST in ICS official LPY.
Thanks a lot.
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I understand what you and alupatti are saying but when I am writing on the screen, the palm will slide down and it's not always you can focus on placing your pen first on the screen.
Thanks xplodwild for your input, too, as a developer. It just seems like a case of poor design which we are stuck with, unfortunately, until there is a real solution.
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incisivekeith said:
I understand what you and alupatti are saying but when I am writing on the screen, the palm will slide down and it's not always you can focus on placing your pen first on the screen.
Thanks xplodwild for your input, too, as a developer. It just seems like a case of poor design which we are stuck with, unfortunately, until there is a real solution.
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The pen need not be on the screen. It activates when the pen is a few mm away from the screen
It might look silly but consider taking notes with your phone upside down. That way the evil capacitive buttons won't get in the way
Disable buttons
Check my sig....flashable zip to disable and re-enable the back and menu button.
Doesn't affect the lights, just the functionality of the buttons.
@tremeron. Do you think your disable buttons flash zip can be adapted like a on/off switch on toggle bar or somehing like that?
I have seen several posts with this question, but none with answers. Has anyone found a way to move the soft keys to one side or another? I keep hitting them when I type (did it while typing this ironically). Never did make sense to me to have a touch sensitive home button right underneath one of the most often used buttons on the typing board. In any case, I have scoured the net looking for an answer and can't find one. Any know if I missed it somewhere? Thanks in advance.
Try a tablet mod ROM, it has the navigation keys bunched up in the bottom left corner. Hope this helps.
Where?
Appreciate the info. Where do I find that one? I have seen a lot of different ROMs for N7, but nothing denoted as "tablet ROM" and none that have mentioned moving the soft keys as a feature.
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You can also. Change the DPI to 160 and achieve the same effect. Tablet UI on Nexus 7
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Sorry for the n00b questions, but this is my first tablet...where do I change that? I have looked though the settings and have not seen a place to do that. I am running a rooted but (almost) stock ROM. (Manually loaded 4.1.2) And will that change the rest of the viewing area?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788518 remember to select tab mode during the installation
Lazarus there is alternatives as well. Team EOS rom allows you to completely hide the softkey interface. I eventually went with gmd gesture control which allows you to hide/show the keys at the flick of your hand, as well as much, much more.
Try the lite version here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodmooddroid.gesturecontroldemo
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Lazarus there is alternatives as well. Team EOS rom allows you to completely hide the softkey interface. I eventually went with gmd gesture control which allows you to hide/show the keys at the flick of your hand, as well as much, much more.
Try the lite version here
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This looks like an awesome little app. But I don't see where to hide the nav bar. Is that one of the Pro features? (It is a sweet little app either way.)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788518 remember to select tab mode during the installation
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This sends me back to JB 4.1.1 though doesn't it? I have already upgraded to 4.1.2 (Though at this point I could not tell you what the difference is other than home screen rotation.) I didn't know 4.1.1 well enough to know it. Only had the tablet a few days.
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Might be, it definitely is available in the pro version though.
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I've just read/watched the Engadget review.
I'm sold on the device. My concern is around the hardware keys. I much prefer hardware keys to software keys because the SW keys eat up so much of the on-screen real estate, and they also push the keyboard higher and make it harder to reach.
That being said, it seems by dropping the menu key, HTC has taken a step backwards after they mapped the legacy menu key to the HW menu key in recent versions of the One X / X+ build in Sense 4+. From what I've read, the legacy menu is back.
This is *bad* and has me thinking about another direction (although there doesn't seem to be a great device like the One - don't think the S4 will be anything interesting unless they've been setting up a smokescreen!).
I run an alternative launcher because I dislike Sense (other than the Camera!), but it won't solve the missing HW key / legacy menu.
Thoughts?
The two button layout doesn't bother me too much. I removed the soft keys on my Nexus 4 and use PIE so if I can function without any buttons, I'm sure I'll live with two. As for the legacy menu thing, that's an odd on HTC's part. Granted, apps should be updated to have proper menu button support, but it's something I can live with.
The removal of long press back remapping was/is probably a bug, I'm sure it will be back
idk about everyone else but i will root and flash my device just like every other phone ive had. with that we will be able to do almost what we want personalization wise. how long will we have to wait is the question.
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The removal of long press back remapping was/is probably a bug, I'm sure it will be back
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Agreed. I heard about this early on but it's not being mentioned in reviews. If nothing else HTC will cave to peer pressure like in the HOX. Long press on back is a passable solution - particularly if we can also get the in-app menu button too.
Otherwise the other idea being thrown about (by non technical people) is if the kernel can be modded to recognise the HTC logo as a button - given that the touch panel should extend over that as well. No idea how possible this is and I presume it couldn't be done until kernel source is out.
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Only two buttons doesn't bother me either, i only have one on my iphone!
I'm actually cool with just 2 button too. I rarely use my menu button on my mt4g. I do everything with just the home button and back button. Also rather have capacitive buttons instead of hard buttons.
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I use the multitasking and menu options quite a bit, thus my concern
I also use the menu button quite a bit.
I am sure once we get used to it, it will be like anything else and heck, we might even like it more. Who knows till we get to play withem...
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Is it possible to activate soft buttons by editing build.prop on HTC Sense roms ?
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Is it possible to activate soft buttons by editing build.prop on HTC Sense roms ?
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I guess. It's possible on TouchWiz, so I guess you can add a line in the build.prop in Sense too.
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My main goal would be to deactivate the hardware buttons and go completely nexus wise.
| Back - Home - Recent (small menu button when needed) |
Are stock on screen buttons smart enough to activate the additional menu button when needed?
Also... can long press software home button activate google now?
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I use the multitasking and menu options quite a bit, thus my concern
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So do I but a long press of the button to bring up the multi tasking menu is hardly a dealbreaker for me. Could prove to be annoying though. Time will tell I guess!
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^ I don't mind long-press for multi-tasking (it's what I am using today); the issue is that you can't have home, multi-tasking, Google Now and Legacy menu all on one key! I've been seeing some comments about long-press back used but the legacy menu really needs to be a single-press.
Dun recall where i read it, but the home key on double tap brings up multi tasker and on long press can b configured for google now or menu key. Thats acceptable to me.
I do prefer the 3 keys on my hox, but i realize that htc had to make a compromise to accomodate the logo. The logo could not have been placed elsewhere on the front without adding to the height of the phone.
In the end, its not a big issie and we will get used to it. Moving from 4 keys on dhd to 3 on the hox wasnt pleasing to me in the beginning, but adapted soon.
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i think its great, i never used the other two buttons anyway.
I don't like the hardkey. It feels different to press than a softkey. It takes longer to press and takes me out of my rythm. Therefore I tend not to use it as much (have built some alternate shortcut gestures into my launcher and my Notification Toggle setup).
Also from what I have seen softkeys last longer than hardkeys... the softkeys have no mechanical parts to wear out.
The whole thing bugs me, but I think I'd feel better if I understood WHY this design decision was made...
So can anyone explain the ADVANTAGES of having a hardkey home button?
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I don't like the hardkey. It feels different to press than a softkey. It takes longer to press and takes me out of my rythm. Therefore I tend not to use it as much (have built some alternate shortcut gestures into my launcher and my Notification Toggle setup).
Also from what I have seen softkeys last longer than hardkeys... the softkeys have no mechanical parts to wear out.
The whole thing bugs me, but I think I'd feel better if I understood WHY this design decision was made...
So can anyone explain the ADVANTAGES of having a hardkey home button?
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I prefer a hard key for the exact opposite of what you said.
BTW, why do you own a S4 ???
The day I cant buy an Android phone with a real home button will be the day Ill switch to something else.
Switching from the straight talk galaxy S2 to the S4 took me a bit to get use to as the S2 didn't have a hard key.... but I like the hard key better.... I think its more of a personal preference than anything
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I miss the HTC Amaze.. Power, camera, and volume were the only buttons on the phone.
I miss the smooth glass home button at the bottom of the screen between the menu and back buttons
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Softkey takes screen real estate, but, will relocate landscape to portrait. When a major crash occurs softkey will not work. Softkey is more suscptable to accidental presses.
Hardkey has a completely different tactile feel.
This is one of many reasons why I prefer Samsung to Nexus. Each to their own.
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I love being able to wake the screen with the menu button. This is much easier when using a case.
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First of all, welcome to the late party.
Second, I hated the hard key also.
Now though, I love the fact that I can "feel" the key without looking for it.
Guess I'd rather have a capacitive key still, but it would need to be a raised button that I can "feel".
Didn't we do this thread like nine months ago?
About fourteen times, back to back threads?
I like the hard key as well. I can turn on the phone using it
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bennyboy78 said:
I like the hard key as well. I can turn on the phone using it
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It's amazing how there is no one feature that can please everyone.
I actually have that option disabled on my phone.
Drives me nuts because everytime I pick up my phone, I'd accidentally press that button and the phone would turn on. Or when I wipe down my screen, I'd hit that button and with the next wipe, I'd unlock my phone and inadvertently open an app or something. hahah
CZ Eddie said:
Didn't we do this thread like nine months ago?
About fourteen times, back to back threads?
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Unfortunately, that's about 90% of the threads in this particular forum now.
My bad. I'm new to S4. I didn't search but got the whim to express some frustration in what I thought would be a light-hearted conversational thread. Not the best decision in retrospect. Next time I'll do that on the Off-topic Cafe thread when I get that urge.
I think a big plus of using both a hard key and the touch sensitive keys (I really dislike the soft keys taking screen real estate, if they disappeared for full screen applications, I'd be more supportive – but I digress) is just being able to feel where the touch sensitive keys are without having to look at the phone. Long live the hard key