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Hello I have just recently began looking into the idea of a UMPC. I look at the stats on these and they seem decent at least some of them with 1 gig of ram and what not. Can these devices function as a laptop/desktop/pda replacement or have they not made it that far yet?
Device is intresting but it is no voice capable and no built GPS
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/26/htc-shift-the-cellphone-company-finally-goes-umpc/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsItEPFEn8M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK3VAAm1GrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuNOV2StRog
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
pbocsak said:
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
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It has now been confirmed that the shift can make voice calls.
See the thread in the Athena forum for a link to a new video showing the phone pad on the shift.
ive seen a UMPC with the built in GPS and the voice functionality. Im just asking if this can run all the programs that a pc can. Like will i be able to active snyc a PPC. I have stumbled upon an interesting site that has quite a bit of affordable UMPCs...
http://www.dynamism.com/htc-shift/pricing.shtml
Shift is a bit pricey on this site.
Hell no!
It's a glorified comms device - that's all.
If you think even a little bit that it can replace even a fraction of your PC usage, you're gonna be very dissapointed and waste a ton of cash.
Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no.
This was much covered in the days of the Universal, and things have not improved much I'm afraid.
Forget it! Can't be clearer.
"Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no."
if it's running vista non ppc software should be no prob
of cause aero would not work nor any apps which required any kind of directx stuff
HELLO
Rudegar said:
"Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no."
if it's running vista non ppc software should be no prob
of cause aero would not work nor any apps which required any kind of directx stuff
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yes it does run areo and will be able to hack a full wm6 not me but other developers will be able to it will be a great device full vista wm6 phone and maybe gps no one has confired that or not yet !!
spzero said:
yes it does run areo and will be able to hack a full wm6 not me but other developers will be able to it will be a great device full vista wm6 phone and maybe gps no one has confired that or not yet !!
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do you really think it will make WM6 and phone working ? I'm so sad to see that there is no ability to receive and give calls... and no ability to have WM applications .. it's so sad that the "fake WM6" is just like a wallpaper and a mail reader and nothing more
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do you really think it will make WM6 and phone working ? I'm so sad to see that there is no ability to receive and give calls... and no ability to have WM applications .. it's so sad that the "fake WM6" is just like a wallpaper and a mail reader and nothing more
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just check out the athena upgrading forums and read the thread on shift making phone calls
Even if it does not make phone calls out of the box, It will probably be hackable after a few weeks.
If HTC decided to put SnapVue because of marketing reason, there should be a full rom floating somewhere. It's impossible they didn't try one at first stage of development.
If it's for technical reason, then the problem certainly lie in the component sharing between the PPC part and vista. These component are:
Wifi: Must be shared and will probably be a problem to activate on both side. We must find a way to alternate it's switch.
Bluetooth: Same as wifi, but may support dual access as bluetooth can set up multiple connections
GPS: If it's desactivated, there will be the same work as for the artemys hopefully
SnapVue is a WM6 system trying to limit itself. It's not a real operating system build from ground. I'm sure it is crying to go back to normal WM6 state once we add the necessary system files.
thaihugo said:
Even if it does not make phone calls out of the box, It will probably be hackable after a few weeks.
If HTC decided to put SnapVue because of marketing reason, there should be a full rom floating somewhere. It's impossible they didn't try one at first stage of development.
If it's for technical reason, then the problem certainly lie in the component sharing between the PPC part and vista. These component are:
Wifi: Must be shared and will probably be a problem to activate on both side. We must find a way to alternate it's switch.
Bluetooth: Same as wifi, but may support dual access as bluetooth can set up multiple connections
GPS: If it's desactivated, there will be the same work as for the artemys hopefully
SnapVue is a WM6 system trying to limit itself. It's not a real operating system build from ground. I'm sure it is crying to go back to normal WM6 state once we add the necessary system files.
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wow u guys are living under rocks or something? the athena's snapvue is like the htc home plugin. go into the athena mobile 6 forum. i have it included as a addon for the athena. the athena will have a phone AND gps. yes me and oli have access to the rom. has been mentioned before. no you can't have it. it can go back to normal wm6. disable the plugin in settings and change the tsk. you can also get the menu back and stuff. this can be done by i guess running the cab for athena. the original cab we made during development had the startmenu and all gone. it was built into the dlls to hide softkeys and start menu. if u run the cab i believe all will be back. if u guys want a rom for shift. u know where to find me.
pbocsak said:
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
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aka shift
Pawel062 said:
wow u guys are living under rocks or something? the athena's snapvue is like the htc home plugin. go into the athena mobile 6 forum. i have it included as a addon for the athena. the athena will have a phone AND gps. yes me and oli have access to the rom. has been mentioned before. no you can't have it. it can go back to normal wm6. disable the plugin in settings and change the tsk. you can also get the menu back and stuff. this can be done by i guess running the cab for athena. the original cab we made during development had the startmenu and all gone. it was built into the dlls to hide softkeys and start menu. if u run the cab i believe all will be back. if u guys want a rom for shift. u know where to find me.
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well..... I'm not 100% convinced by everything .. the Shift I have used does not show anything in the SnapVue ... no IE, no explorer, ... nothing to be able to download a cab or to install a cab... maybe synchronizing ? but I think that it can't be synchronized ...... so how? .. I have seen 2 shifts and both were not able of reading SMS and receiving or giving a call.
I will keep tune in this thread since the phone is out this month .. and will see how it works for others... I hope we will be able to put a phone on it and GPS and anything else.... but I think even without that the HTC SHIFT issss the best choice for a small notebook and it is clearly THE BEST CHOICE for an umpc.
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well..... I'm not 100% convinced by everything .. the Shift I have used does not show anything in the SnapVue ... no IE, no explorer, ... nothing to be able to download a cab or to install a cab... maybe synchronizing ? but I think that it can't be synchronized ...... so how? .. I have seen 2 shifts and both were not able of reading SMS and receiving or giving a call.
I will keep tune in this thread since the phone is out this month .. and will see how it works for others... I hope we will be able to put a phone on it and GPS and anything else.... but I think even without that the HTC SHIFT issss the best choice for a small notebook and it is clearly THE BEST CHOICE for an umpc.
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idk are u reading what i said correctly? I dont need to put phone or gps on it. IT HAS IT!! like i said if u run the cab it should open the windows up to have a start menu and all that. internet explorer and all that are in the phone. maybe they want u though to only have in wm6 what isnt in vista. if u think about it vista has ie and all that.
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idk are u reading what i said correctly? I dont need to put phone or gps on it. IT HAS IT!! like i said if u run the cab it should open the windows up to have a start menu and all that. internet explorer and all that are in the phone. maybe they want u though to only have in wm6 what isnt in vista. if u think about it vista has ie and all that.
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i'm not talking about ADDING a phone or a gps ... but about downloading "THE" cab you are talking about... and installing this cab.. I have used the Shift a little .. and it seems that there is no way to access the SnapVue ... just use the snapvue.. but impossible to see something behind it ... no explorer, no I.E. ... and I think that it can't be synchronized with a computer.
surely it would be possible to hard reset the snapview side and before customizations take place and install sbnap view soft reset then use total commander to get any other cabs from the extended rom that we need ??? (but ive not seen even a sample unit in the flesh i assume this is do_able?)
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surely it would be possible to hard reset the snapview side and before customizations take place and install sbnap view soft reset then use total commander to get any other cabs from the extended rom that we need ??? (but ive not seen even a sample unit in the flesh i assume this is do_able?)
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Sorry to bust your bubble but SnapVue is a part of the ROM... but so long as the device will happily sync away with Activesync, we should be in business.
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Sorry to bust your bubble but SnapVue is a part of the ROM... but so long as the device will happily sync away with Activesync, we should be in business.
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Hey no problem just hope it can be cracked and hacked away at till we get a usable device
I want to buy one... is it avalible yet. i saw something about it being released in europe already...
I want my HD's SD memmory to show as an USB memmory stick on my works computer... We can't connect PDA's (companies pollicy) but we can connect USB sticks....
Is there a program for Winmobile devices that does this for me ?
Like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SanDisk-8GB-Mic...205|66:4|65:12|39:2|240:1309#ebayphotohosting
Is this what you mean?
you dont need a program.
start - settings -connections - usb to pc - select "disk drive" radio button. it will look like a drive to windows like this.
N.B. you can only see the MicroSD card though, you cant navitgate the rest of the phone.
Yes, there is....
The best application that meets your requirements is Card Export by Softick. This application allows you to use your PPC (Memory) as a memory stick. It allows you to switch the device between AcytiveSync and USB Memory mode, and vice versa straightforwardly: excellent.
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The best application that meets your requirements is Card Export by Softick. This application allows you to use your PPC (Memory) as a memory stick. It allows you to switch the device between AcytiveSync and USB Memory mode, and vice versa straightforwardly: excellent.
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hello? did you read my post? you can tell the HD to ask you how you want to connect everytime you plug in the usb cable: ActiveSync or Disk Drive. YOU DONT NEED TO INSTALL ANYTHING.
Frustin is fully right - you don't need anything. In addition, notice that you don't need activesync if you are using it as an external drive, just the usual USB drivers. So it is very convenient to move files around different machines...
in particular, you don't need wmstorage or similar as with older htc models...
cannot avoid stating once more, after two weeks of use: this is the greatest windows mobile device i never had...
Really? Sorry!
frustin said:
you dont need a program.
start - settings -connections - usb to pc - select "disk drive" radio button. it will look like a drive to windows like this.
N.B. you can only see the MicroSD card though, you cant navitgate the rest of the phone.
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Sorry, I have yet not received my Touch HD. However, on my current HTC (Polaris), in USB to PC, I only have the Enbale advanced network functionality. Is the option you mention exclusove to Touch HD? Could you please post a screenshot?
Thank you...
Seams a strange question to even ask considering every time you connect your phone to a PC it actually asks you which mode to use to connect with!
Philio25 said:
Seams a strange question to even ask considering every time you connect your phone to a PC it actually asks you which mode to use to connect with!
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Lol, he still doesn't have his new phone....
onesolo said:
Lol, he still doesn't have his new phone....
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Lol guess that explains it.
carola said:
Sorry, I have yet not received my Touch HD. However, on my current HTC (Polaris), in USB to PC, I only have the Enbale advanced network functionality.
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It's a bit naughty to give advice on a product you dont own, even if you think you might know. Had Lord.Bachus could have gone out and bought a product on the back of that advice, he would have been very peaved when he found out he didnt have to.
No contribution!
frustin said:
It's a bit naughty to give advice on a product you dont own, even if you think you might know. Had Lord.Bachus could have gone out and bought a product on the back of that advice, he would have been very peaved when he found out he didnt have to.
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No one is as stupid to buy a product without evaluating it, first when it includes a a trial period (you may be the sort of people who complain to have bought an application and found out it does meet his/her requirement).
Besides that, I am not too sure of this option. As for not owing a product (owing to delays from mobiles.co.uk), it is at least dull to claim that just for the fact of not owing a specific device I cannot advise of particular aspect, of it when these devices run on a common platform!
Anyhow, I see no point in your response (not constructive at all); you could at least, if you have the device, show this setting to Lord.Bachus and everyone else who is unaware of it.
I debated over answering this however...
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No one is as stupid to buy a product without evaluating it, first when it includes a a trial period (you may be the sort of people who complain to have bought an application and found out it does meet his/her requirement).
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Stupidity does not come into it. You gave sure advice, based on nothing but your old software. As Forest Gump's mother says, "stupid is as stupid does".
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...just for the fact of not owing a specific device I cannot advise of particular aspect, of it when these devices run on a common platform!
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You can not advise? Nevertheless you did advise (incorrectly), after I already posted the solution.
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Anyhow, I see no point in your response (not constructive at all); you could at least, if you have the device, show this setting to Lord.Bachus and everyone else who is unaware of it.
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Are you blind and isn't this why we are having this conversation? have you looked at post #3 in this thread? Did I not provide a solution to his problem? And you missed the point of my response?
I have some advice for you: give up trying to dig yourself out of this one.
Time waster......
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Stupidity does not come into it. You gave sure advice, based on nothing but your old software. As Forest Gump's mother says, "stupid is as stupid does".
You can not advise? Nevertheless you did advise (incorrectly), after I already posted the solution.
Are you blind and isn't this why we are having this conversation? have you looked at post #3 in this thread? Did I not provide a solution to his problem? And you missed the point of my response?
I have some advice for you: give up trying to dig yourself out of this one.
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I am not going to continue with your stupid conversation; if you are bored, look for chatting sites!
In any case, the solution I mentioned differs from yours: it shows the current free memory and allows to set the memory card to read-only. In addition, it allows for boh modes to be changed quickly. Thus, it is more advanced. People want various solutions to enable them to make final the decision themselves not imposed on them.
The fact that you suggest Copilot for a query on navigation software does not imply no one else can advise on alternative solutions, such as Tomtom...
carola said:
I am not going to continue with your stupid conversation; if you are bored, look for chatting sites!
In any case, the solution I mentioned differs from yours: it shows the current free memory and allows to set the memory card to read-only. In addition, it allows for boh modes to be changed quickly. Thus, it is more advanced. People want various solutions to enable them to make final the decision themselves not imposed on them.
The fact that you suggest Copilot for a query on navigation software does not imply no one else can advise on alternative solutions, such as Tomtom...
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Well just the opinion of a stupid person who bought the HD with no research into it whatsoever but frustin is correct you offered a solution based on no actual experience with the device or knowinig if the software you recommended even works on the device. Now who's the time waster???
Philio25 said:
Well just the opinion of a stupid person who bought the HD with no research into it whatsoever but frustin is correct you offered a solution based on no actual experience with the device or knowinig if the software you recommended even works on the device. Now who's the time waster???
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This application, which is merely under 200KB in size only disables ActiveSync and load univesal mass storage drivers...why will not be compatible at that level. It may not disaply full sceren on a 480*800 display, but urely it not be incomptible! This is the current situation of most software when used on WVGA devices.
Test it and prove me wrong:
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/
Hi,
i found this in another thread, i was just wondering whether any devlopers would be able to use this file and adapt it to work with the x1? I would do it myself but im useless at all this stuff... (and plus i dont know how.)
The file can be found through this link-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440141&highlight=screen+sensitivity&page=2
What good would it do you to have a mouse pointer on the X1 screen? If the OS isn't optimized for it, there'll be no real benefit.
I used the demo of True Connect for a while which lets you move your PC mouse off of the screen onto the X1 screen. Very slick, but ultimately just a novelty because it didn't add any useful functionality to the X1. If they added drag and drop they would be on to something.
Correct me if I'm wrong but, I think the only reason why this hasn't been done already is because on the driver side the optical pad output is digital, eg: just 4 directions, and not coordinate output, like say a mouse.
samsung omnia has this option, (change from 4 way scrolling to a mouse).
Would be great to have this on the Xperia
wow my first post xD
@korval
i have to correct you....
a standard PC mouse with an oldschool trackball has also only 2 axis to get 4 directions but you can move the pointet over the screen like you want....
jo do not need more than this two axis but the only thing is to detect both of them simultaniously......
and i Love the pointer on Omnia but i dint like the Omnia itselve...... its only my second "emergency" device
ah and sry für bad english im a german one xD
On Screen Mouse
I'd be keen for this as well - it would be a nice cool UI feature.
What is really annoying (and spose off topic), the use of the optical pad doesn't register as a button/screen press, so the password lock screen comes up while you are using the optical pad to scroll!
(i was forced to set a longer timeout.. ah well, can't have everything secure..)
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wow my first post xD
@korval
i have to correct you....
a standard PC mouse with an oldschool trackball has also only 2 axis to get 4 directions but you can move the pointet over the screen like you want....
jo do not need more than this two axis but the only thing is to detect both of them simultaniously......
and i Love the pointer on Omnia but i dint like the Omnia itselve...... its only my second "emergency" device
ah and sry für bad english im a german one xD
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Yip, thats what I meant! I think you explained it a bit better than I did.
And now i will quote here what ive also written in another thread for this:
I will donate 50€ for the one who do this that its working like on my Omnia.....
this is a promise!!!!!!
would anyone use a laptop touchpad only like arrow keys instead of a mouse pointer??? NO!!!!
Greetz
i dont get it.
why not use the touch screen?
what reasons would u need this for?
the reason is that i want to use my device some times (if im on the walk) with only one handy.... also to use the browser......
the TF3D and spb etc is good to handle in one hand but not the browser like obera and opera mini..... also the small checkboxex in some programs are too small.....
on omnia i never have to use the stylus and i want to have this feature on my X1 because it MUST be possible!!!!!!
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the reason is that i want to use my device some times (if im on the walk) with only one handy.... also to use the browser......
the TF3D and spb etc is good to handle in one hand but not the browser like obera and opera mini..... also the small checkboxex in some programs are too small.....
on omnia i never have to use the stylus and i want to have this feature on my X1 because it MUST be possible!!!!!!
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I agree 100%
Opera Mobile 10 has this built-in.
r3bel said:
Opera Mobile 10 has this built-in.
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yeah but it is too slowwwww
I dont understand some people here. Why are certain users against an additional input method? Isnt it a fact that everything that broadens the spectrum of available possibilities is generally a good thing? Have we fallen under Apple philosophy that condemns options that were not intended by the developer of the phone?
For me its clear that I would highly appreciate any additional way to control my device, especially a mouse pointer since this could replace the stylus when on the move. Even the small checkboxes would not force me to pull out the stylus anymore. How can anybody not support this? I dont get it. Isnt WM about freedom of choice?
I dont think anyone is against it, its just any developers who have read this dont think its important enough at the moment to spend time on, especially if they have other ongoing projects. But feel free to develop it yourself, no one will criticise you for making it, and if you do make it I am sure plenty of people will use it. No one here is Steve Jobs. lol.
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I need a mouse smooth cursor llike the PC mouse for X1.tks!!!
I got a bit suckered by all the good reviews for this phone on so many websites and bought it yesterday. I've had a long time [misplaced] affection for windows phones. I say misplaced because every single model I've owned has let me down.
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice.
why is this stuff so difficult for windows mobile phones? why does the phone not go into landscape mode for EVERY application? why is that so difficult to implement? Why did HTC not put a bloody switch for landscape mode? you have a wide screen which would make an onscreen keyborad far more friendly yet you're still stuck trying to hit the 'sweet spot' on a portrait-mode keyboard!??! Not only are you stuck in portait mode but you no longer have a stylus to help you hit those keys!
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
thanks!
Install BSB Tweaks this allows landscape for any appplication
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
I tried but didn't seem to work for me. maybe i was doing something wrong?
i enabled the tickbox for IE and after the soft reset i tried running it but it did nothing when i rotated the screen. Am I missing something here?
try using Gyrator .. It works on every application
aloms said:
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
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I've just made an app that does just that. Have a look at PLToggle in my sig.
Calm down mate, trust me, windows mobile is by far the best OS out there for mobiles. The only reason everyone prefers the iphone is because of its usability, apart from that theres not much you can do but 'get an app for that', however thanks to this forum, you can do almost anything with a windows mobile device, especially one as powerful as the leo. You just need to get used to it, if sense is bugging you, get spb shell or another ui. And of course theres gonna be loads of problems with it, its pretty new, but its good points strongly outway its bad points (oh and might I add, you'll be getting all your tech support from this site, not htc, trust me), so just give it some time and you'll realise, after 'making it yours' how awesome a phone it is.
If the keyboard isnt doing it for you, download a new one! (thats the great thing about winmo) the two popular ones at the moment are swype ( a completely different style of keyboard) or finger keyboard. I personally like the one htc supply you with, heres a tweak taken from this thread which will lower the sensitivy of the screen which makes typing much easier. Alternatively, bsb tweaks can do this all for you from its menu.
Oh and about the rotate thing, on xanny tech's pandora rom, he has a little execuatable file in the start menu with rotates everything, and its mapped to a long press of the send key, so thats pretty useful, im not running his rom anymore but if you know anything about flashing, flash his first, its very good indeed and has lots of tweaks and useful stuff preinstalled.
Hope that helps a little, if not just ask
thanks for your help mate. having bought into a 24 month contract I'm pretty much stuck with getting to learn the phone whether i like it or not.
aloms said:
thanks for your help mate. having bought into a 24 month contract I'm pretty much stuck with getting to learn the phone whether i like it or not.
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I agree with [★]. Once you know it better, you'll get to love it. There's so much under the hood of this thing that yes, you'll find a few things that you don't like, but they'll be outweighed by the things that you do
aloms said:
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice
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You, Sir, need to check out my thread, which would surely have come up if you had used the search function. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5197442 Windows Live/Hotmail etc seem to only take 16 characters. Anything after that is ignored. But the Windows Live application on mobile accepts more than 16 and will try and authenticate with everything you type in. 20 character password will not work. Reduce your pass to 16 characters or less and it should work. Post back in this thread to let me know if this sorts your issue out.
If it's a keyboard you're after then try Swype. Have a search for it. I too had a lot of sensitivity problems with the keyboard and it would take ages to type a simple email. Swype solved that. It's a lot less sensitive than the native keyboard and I used SIP to make it my default. In terms of landscape mode, try using Opera instead of IE (although Opera lacks flash). BSB Tweaks will handle the rest although I don't use it myself.
Trust me, stick with the phone and, with a few tweaks to have it running how you like it, you won't look back!
Just return the darn phone, smack it to the floor and trample it good, or learn to use it since you've bought it. Please save yourself over a high blood pressure leading to a stroke, my friend. It's only a phone.. (but then there's always iPhones for usability's sake, whatever it means)
aloms said:
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
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Ok, you need to calm down a tad. Ok, the phone is not perfect. However, there is endless configurability for the phone. The best thing you could ever have done was to come to this site where there is a tweak for almost anything.
Sit down, fasten your seatbelt and take a look around. You need an open mind. The HD2 is no iphone. It's the iphone killer. Just needs a little tweaking that's all.
Alternatively, you could ditch it and join the bandwagon, I mean iphone!
Try Swype, best KB I hve used on a phone, my mate with an Iphone thought it was great and was going to look for it for the Iphone, once tweaked the HD2 is the best mob by far!
I was doubtful when I first had it like you say I thought I should have gone for the Iphone but now I am so happy with it
Windows is rubbish because of the HTC keyboard?? Ok...
Isnt the whole ADVANTAGE of winmo that if you dont like something you can change it?
The advantage of WinMo is the tweaking and Office Mobile My wife had a HTC Hero for 2 months and at the end she begged me to get her a new Windows Phone because the freaking Android won't open rich text format files (unfortunately in her job she is obliged to use rtf as standart file format) without great hassle even with all possible office replacements I cound find on the net. Not to speak of that, that even the enhanced HTC mail client for Android can't open messages that are sent from mail.bg (a very popular bulgarian web mail service). That was the end for Android
Hotmail mail on the HD1 was a pain, same on the HD2. Gmail is working perfectly though which is very annoying when like me, you use Hotmail on your desktop to access your Gmail emails...
aloms said:
I got a bit suckered by all the good reviews for this phone on so many websites and bought it yesterday. I've had a long time [misplaced] affection for windows phones. I say misplaced because every single model I've owned has let me down.
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice.
why is this stuff so difficult for windows mobile phones? why does the phone not go into landscape mode for EVERY application? why is that so difficult to implement? Why did HTC not put a bloody switch for landscape mode? you have a wide screen which would make an onscreen keyborad far more friendly yet you're still stuck trying to hit the 'sweet spot' on a portrait-mode keyboard!??! Not only are you stuck in portait mode but you no longer have a stylus to help you hit those keys!
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
thanks!
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First of all get rid of that IDIOTIC iPhone imitation keyboard and replace it with the divine fingerkeyboard from xda.
And then deactivate the utterly unpredictive xt9 "predictive" (more like vindictive) text input.
I did these steps and now I can FINALLY type.
An $800 phone and it takes a donationware sw keyboard to make it usable
Aloms - I had the same problem with my Ipod Touch in the beginning. Don't worry, you will get use to it. BTW HD2 keyboard is better especially in landscape
I will join this thread with my three questions.
I have converted to the dark side and bought iPhone 3GS after having gone through a lot of phones and OSes. I have given up on WinMo (using HTC Pro) basically because of 3 issues:
1. Phone app in the sense of its responsiveness. I mean, someone is calling - first 2 seconds the hardware buttons light up, next 2 seconds the phone starts to vibrate, next 2 seconds there is a sound. Is it happening on the HD2 too? How responsive is it? Plus does it have a good gsm reception? With my HTC Pro I had to keep on testing different radio roms and have not been satisfied ever...
2. When you use HD2 say 4-5 days or longer, does it slow down over time. I mean especially when you use contacts with 1000 entries etc, or is it instant?
3. On a brand new HD2 just charged, when you load in your 1000 contacts, does it have an instant search of a contact in the contacts app? Or an email address in the "To" section when you want to write an email?
Frankly speaking, HD2 looks very tempting, but I am afraid mainly of the 3 above areas and am thinking to wait for Windows 7 or something?
PS. HTC Pro is still with me, but in the drawer...
OliveUK said:
Hotmail mail on the HD1 was a pain, same on the HD2.
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I've had a Diamond, a HD, and now a HD2 and I can say with 100% confidence that I never had 1 single problem with Hotmail. I've seen a very small number of users on here with issues and every single one of them has turned out to be user error.
I suggest the same in this instance as it works flawlessly when set up correctly, which 99.9% of users do.
Hello guys,
Is there a possibility to view in the main screen 2 individual time settings? I travel a lot and this can help me see just by touching the mobile what is the time at home compared to the location one.
By opening some application it is just inpractical so is there some way to just add a small time next to the big one?
Thanks in advance.
spb mobile shell will solve your problem.
alternative
Gothik said:
spb mobile shell will solve your problem.
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If you don't want, for some reason, spb ms, google or use search function for some specific multiple-time application: you'll find something to fit your needs...[/I]
bib*oops said:
If you don't want, for some reason, spb ms, google for some specific multi-time application: you'll find something to fit your needs...
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your reply was extremely useless :/ . and strange you quoted me. if you don't know anything then why bother posting?. and that too that 'go search Google'. i am sure he knows that. and all he needed was you reminding him again to search Google for ehm 'alternative' :S
Gothik said:
your reply was extremely useless :/ . and strange you quoted me. if you don't know anything then why bother posting?. and that too that 'go search Google'. i am sure he knows that. and all he needed was you reminding him again to search Google for ehm 'alternative' :S
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I ''dare'' to quote YOU(R HIGHNESS), because I respect your opinion, but it seems impossible to you even to consider another opinion...
In other words, thank you very much for your clever(&very usefull in your opinion**) post, but one question still remains:
are you a kind of referree/judge/guardian, always watching for someone's badinyourmind/differentthanyours opinion?
**spb ms is a very usefull app(no doubt about), but high (enough) resources consumer for such a simple purpose: a multiple time displaying app on today's screen...
bib*oops said:
I ''dare'' to quote YOU(R HIGHNESS), because I respect your opinion, but it seems impossible to you to even consider another opinion...
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hahaha... Fantastic reply...
Hello guys,
Is there a possibility to view in the main screen 2 individual time settings? I travel a lot and this can help me see just by touching the mobile what is the time at home compared to the location one.
By opening some application it is just inpractical so is there some way to just add a small time next to the big one?
Thanks in advance.
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For this you can use old version (2.0) or something of SPB Time. Earlier version used to come with today Plugin which can be used for multiple location times. However it'll be helpful only if you are not using TouchFlo as your today application.
Can we act like civilized people and avoid the flaming. If you have nothing relevant to say, it's best to say nothing.
Ta