Hi all,
I need help,suggestions,anything with an issue I've had for a while. Since the time I started loading WM6 the screen has been randomly fading to white. I have LSVW latest rom 22/4 SE and 1.40.10 radio and 1.40oli although it doesn't matter what rom you load. I tried going back to WM5 and its better but now still fades to white as well.
on advise from oli and legolas I purchased a new battery but still have the same issue.
I have dropped my phone once which resulted in a crack to the right of the DEL/CR keys so could it be a HW issue and if you think so is it one I could open up the phone and fix?
Any and all help appreciated
IN FACT IF SOMEONE CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUE I WILL DONATE SOME CASH TO THEM!
test
Im updating to
LVSW 4-23 Full, Radio 1.40.30.00, SPL 2.10.Oli, IPL 1.04
seeing if any difference comes out.
This is not the first time this issue has been reported:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-301003.html
The conclusion is that it's hardware related. It may be as simple as one of the internal ribbon connectors having a less than firm connection. It may be brought on my anything from physical movement or pressure to internal pressure if the device gats warm. However, it is possible that there is a failing component. IMHO, a case of take it for replacement/repair or first check connectors if your brave and not worried about a warranty.
Mike
mikechannon said:
This is not the first time this issue has been reported:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-301003.html
The conclusion is that it's hardware related. It may be as simple as one of the internal ribbon connectors having a less than firm connection. It may be brought on my anything from physical movement or pressure to internal pressure if the device gats warm. However, it is possible that there is a failing component. IMHO, a case of take it for replacement/repair or first check connectors if your brave and not worried about a warranty.
Mike
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HHmmm interesting thread .. the only issue i have out of that is the fade to white one.
Maybe Hardware .. i got the phone off ebay and now it has a crack in it .. so i dare say it isnt under warranty any more. (even though its a max of 6 months old).
It may also be software. I experienced the WSOD on my JASJAM when playing with the GPS-related DLL's. Once this problem appeared when switching on the camera. The screen would turn white and soft reset would not fix this, only power off/on would sort it out. Seems that the drivers do not reset (some of) the hardware to a known state on boot.
Had EXACTLY the same problem. Hoped it would be a software problem. Hard-reset a few times to no avail. Upgraded to a couple of the WM6 ROMs. No change. I did notice that when it was cool it tended not to happen, but after being on the phone a couple minutes or using the PDA for a while, it would do it AGAIN.
One weird thing I noticed was that if I did a Soft-reset and held down the Left Soft-key, I could "force" it to fade to white on start-up! VERY WEIRD.
I finally bit the bullet, and sent it back to Telstra to get it sorted. Didn't want to void warranty myself.
It has been just over 2 weeks since I sent it off, and They have sent this reply...
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Hi
This phone is currently waiting on a part which was ordered yesterday. Some parts have already been issued but needs further repair.
Regards
Nadine
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From: LJ Boyd [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 20 April 2007 2:18 PM
To: ! TMS Customer Service
Subject: RE: Imate JASJAM Problem
Hello, I am emailing about an I-Mate JASJAM phone I sent for repairs early last week (tel # xxx ).
Can you please update me as to status of this repair, as the Telstra shop did not provide me with a second phone while I await return/repair/replacement of the phone.
Thanks,
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So, I guess it IS a hardware problem. But then again, that kind of reply, sounds a bit "dodgy" as it doesn't seem to "technical" does it?
Hope this helps.
jyetara said:
So, I guess it IS a hardware problem. But then again, that kind of reply, sounds a bit "dodgy" as it doesn't seem to "technical" does it?
Hope this helps.
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Their reply was not very technical - does not surprise me however. The people who repair these devices are usually faced with some component/connection/screen or a m/board that needs replaced. They often fail to take account of something as basic as the case pressing on the screen or other components - particularly when device is warm. So they replace the component they think is faulty and then discover the problem is still there. With this issue in particular I think that there are no faulty components just the case is a fraction of a millimetre too tight for the internal components and hence swapping out parts can have no effect. With this fault I advise people to go for a replacement not a repair if possible.
NB: This issue should not be confused with white screen that may appear after installing particular software or when an application crashes, or when the flashing of a new ROM goes wrong! The hardware issue arises most commonly when the device gets warm or put another way goes white after maybe 10 minutes of use and will continue to go white even after hard reset.
Mike
I have this same problem! =(
My phone screen recently (4-5 days ago) started to go white. I never saw this happen with my own eyes but when i picked up my phone and its sleeping i push the power button to get to an all white screen. I can hear noises when i touch the screen but no image other than white. I can solve this by removing the battery and putting it back in, then my scren works fine....its not verry often just like 1-3 times a day.
I want to try a hard reset but have a question first: My phone is unlocked by the ebay guy i got it from, will a hard reset lock my phone back to Cingular?
Next i want to try upgrading my ROM and Radio and anything else...im looking in the wiki for instructions on how to do this. Any help? What else shouls i upgrade?
Ive only had my Hermes for around 2 months so im new to much of this.
THanks!
I recently purchased a Used Imate Jasjam (Ex Telstra Australia) with this issue.
I pulled the unit apart, and reseated and pressed the Power and LCD Display Data Cables... attempting to ensure they were firmly fastened.
I then upgraded to LVSW's Latest WM6 Release.
I have had the Phone go to White once in that timeframe since. I brought it back by pressing the power button of, then one again.
I don't feel that it's really a "100%" Faulty Part... Because it works fine othertimes. It almost seems as if connections or a Data Cable has an Issue.
I'm intending tonight and using the Phone over the weekend to see if the issue continues to occur.
BAD NEWS!!
Well, got my phone back after a bit over 3 weeks I think? I kept ringing the repair center and emailing. Finally they said it was ready, and was sent back to the shop I bought it from. Rang the shop "no it's not here yet, we will ring you"... now the repair centre to the shop is a 20 min drive... on the 3rd, I rang again at 1pm and "no it's not here yet, we will ring you when it arrives." At this point I was really getting p*ed off. So I went to the shop, and demanded, and guess what was AT the Shop?!?!?!
Anyway, after 1 friggin day, I have lost the Red & Green phone buttons! As of tonight the whole bottom section no longer work, and the screen has gone white again.
The repair report listed 3 things replaced...one was a "bezel" another was a "poly" something. I will get the report a list the replaced bits if anyone likes, but their descriptions are kind of strange if ya ask me.
Anyway, I have to send the phone back for repairs again, which could take another 3 weeks +, which I think is completely PATHETIC OF TELSTRA, especially for the fact they dont give the same phone or even similar to "loan" while I wait for my defective $1300 phone to get "repaired"... (more like 'fiddled with' & "yeah, she'll be right mate"...
GRRRRR!!!!
My girlfriends phone was having the same problem. Try popping out your SD card and putting the phone into/out of sleep and see if that brings back a visible screen. Thats how we determined her situation was a hardware problem and not a problem with the rom.
jyetara said:
Well, got my phone back after a bit over 3 weeks I think? I kept ringing the repair center and emailing. Finally they said it was ready, and was sent back to the shop I bought it from. Rang the shop "no it's not here yet, we will ring you"... now the repair centre to the shop is a 20 min drive... on the 3rd, I rang again at 1pm and "no it's not here yet, we will ring you when it arrives." At this point I was really getting p*ed off. So I went to the shop, and demanded, and guess what was AT the Shop?!?!?!
Anyway, after 1 friggin day, I have lost the Red & Green phone buttons! As of tonight the whole bottom section no longer work, and the screen has gone white again.
The repair report listed 3 things replaced...one was a "bezel" another was a "poly" something. I will get the report a list the replaced bits if anyone likes, but their descriptions are kind of strange if ya ask me.
Anyway, I have to send the phone back for repairs again, which could take another 3 weeks +, which I think is completely PATHETIC OF TELSTRA, especially for the fact they dont give the same phone or even similar to "loan" while I wait for my defective $1300 phone to get "repaired"... (more like 'fiddled with' & "yeah, she'll be right mate"...
GRRRRR!!!!
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Yes, sadly this is kind of predictable as I said in an earlier post in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1233420&postcount=7
This is why, as I said, get a replacement not a repair if possible. My view is that the individual components are fine but connectors come loose or the heat generated causes pressure to be put on the screen etc So it's a problem with some cases and how the innards in some cases get squeezed. So off course changing the top poly board, connectors, bezel gasket, may by pot luck make a difference but is just as likely to make no difference at all.
Mike
Status Report:
After having my phone playing Video's Through the Night (My Way of a "Stress Test" to Generate Heat) I woke up the find the screen to be "almost completely" White.
Usually its gone completely, however in this instance I was able to see the icons through the whitewash.
I put the phone into sleep and back out and the Display is fine again.
Being that these phones are much easier to pull apart and put back together than my old JasJar I might to do some further experimentation.
I think the issue will have something to do with either one of the following
- Heat
- Pressure on the LCD from Parts Around it
- Faulty Ribbon or Power Leads to the LCD
My suggestions
- In the Case of Heat... I'll run the Same Test, with the Phone Directly in front of a small airconditioning unit I have.
- In the Case of Pressure, I'm going to look and see if I can place some extra Insulation Tape or Similar on the Phone to relieve this
- I wish I could find somewhere to buy the Replacement Ribbon Cables but I don't know where I can get them in Australia... any ideas?
VolarisPtyLtd said:
Status Report:
After having my phone playing Video's Through the Night (My Way of a "Stress Test" to Generate Heat) I woke up the find the screen to be "almost completely" White.
Usually its gone completely, however in this instance I was able to see the icons through the whitewash.
I put the phone into sleep and back out and the Display is fine again.
Being that these phones are much easier to pull apart and put back together than my old JasJar I might to do some further experimentation.
I think the issue will have something to do with either one of the following
- Heat
- Pressure on the LCD from Parts Around it
- Faulty Ribbon or Power Leads to the LCD
My suggestions
- In the Case of Heat... I'll run the Same Test, with the Phone Directly in front of a small airconditioning unit I have.
- In the Case of Pressure, I'm going to look and see if I can place some extra Insulation Tape or Similar on the Phone to relieve this
- I wish I could find somewhere to buy the Replacement Ribbon Cables but I don't know where I can get them in Australia... any ideas?
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We wait to see. Mind you one guy on these boards found he could get half an hour from his device if he put it in the freezer for a while - so I'm not sure that air-con will be strong enough!!!
Mike
Well Results.....
After pulling apart the unit and reconnected, I think I found my cause to simply be excess pressure.
I've removed the "Black Plastic" Micro SD Card from its Blanking Plate.
Since I've done this... not one White Screen Whatsoever.
I don't use an SD Card, so the issue is resolved for me, however it is very interesting.
Could be Pressure or Heat (Small Hole Might Increase Airflow/Allow for Greater Dissapation or something)
Hi folks,
i've also small experience with this "white screen" issue and just wanted to inform you about it.
I got the device from my former boss who did already complain about this "white screen" issue on his O² XDA trion with original ROM. (honestly i did not really believe him due to my experience with couple of other devices so after i got the device i was just wondering - ok back to the facts).
I installed on Friday the Windows Mobile VI Pro - BLACK 2.5 Release and until today it was running (as far as i remember expect one time) nearly perfect w/o white screens. About 45min ago, i flashed the device with BLACK 3.0 Release and got until now about 5-10 times a white screen.
I assume this is not a hardware ONLY issue but indeed very strange.
I'll go back to 2.5 and will look forward if i get again the white screen or it'll be ok.
Cheers so far
FaCeOff said:
Hi folks,
i've also small experience with this "white screen" issue and just wanted to inform you about it.
I got the device from my former boss who did already complain about this "white screen" issue on his O² XDA trion with original ROM. (honestly i did not really believe him due to my experience with couple of other devices so after i got the device i was just wondering - ok back to the facts).
I installed on Friday the Windows Mobile VI Pro - BLACK 2.5 Release and until today it was running (as far as i remember expect one time) nearly perfect w/o white screens. About 45min ago, i flashed the device with BLACK 3.0 Release and got until now about 5-10 times a white screen.
I assume this is not a hardware ONLY issue but indeed very strange.
I'll go back to 2.5 and will look forward if i get again the white screen or it'll be ok.
Cheers so far
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You are right to ask the question "is it hardware or software".
1
We know a white screens can arise if folk duff up flashing a new ROM.
2
We know there is a hardware caused white screen that comes and goes often when device gets warm.
3
But there maybe white screens caused by some kinds of crashing software or a buggy ROM etc
Crucially in terms of finding a cure will be distiguishing between these.
2 for most people is easy - take it back and get a replacement.
1 is a matter for the ROM upgrading and fixing boards
3 is a case of trying different ROMs testing 3 party software by selective installation until the problem starts or stops.
In your case I am worried that this is a number 2 device as it did sometimes get the problem before you flashed the ROM and now it's worse. It may only be worse because this particular ROM is generating more heat and consequently more white screens. (see explanations elsewhere).
I suppose if it's an occasional problem you might live with it but otherwise it's replacement at best and repair as a rather dodgy alternative.
Mike
Hey Mike,
well, before flashing the device with a custom ROM, in my opinion it was really difficult to use it.
By flashing it with V 2.5, it was very good usable and with V 3.0 it returned to become more unusable. Nevertheless, i upgraded 10min ago with HARD-SPL-V7 and it's running fine now (i've been wating with downgrading to V 2.5. If it returns to become unstable, i will downgrade to V 2.5 again.
I'll keep you informed.
yes for this particular "white screen" issue it will be useful to hear how things go - thanks
Mike
White screen - in my case definitely a hardware issue
Hi folks,
i was testing and playing around with my Hermes and today i found the problem (very funny because now i can't reproduce it anymore but just read ahead).
Today i was playing around and after pressing by accident on the case of the Hermes, the screen appeared disappeared and changed into white.
Please download the video i recorded from the attached link - you'll see that it was able to reproduce it by tapping on the case:
http://asuka.descipe.de/dphome/test/HTC_Hermes_White_Screen_issue.mp4
Please use VLC or MPC (additional codecs required) to watch the movie.
Honestly i'm not sure if this can be reproduced by anyone but this makes the whole situation much more clear.
Any feedback is welcome.
Cheers
Got a Nexus 7, 8GB, SSN starts with C60.
I can clearly tell that when I push down on the left side of the screen, there's a little bit of give. Sometimes I can wait and hear the sticky tape let go also. ...So I have the screen separation problem, right?
Also, sometimes when I'm using it and it starts to warm up, the screen becomes less responsive. VERY frustrating in NOVA3 when I can't even keep moving straight forward because the screen stops thinking that I'm touching it. ...So I have the overheating digitizer issue too, right?
I contacted Google and they sent me out a replacement (this SSN also starts with C60). Everything about the order said "new", but I swear the box has been re-taped. Is this a "new" device? Also, lo and behold, the screen issue is exactly the same on the replacement!! I looked online and found a YouTube video that shows separation that the owner calls "slight" and it is WAY worse than mine. I'm just a perfectionist and I thought Google and Asus would have been too.
I haven't even turned the thing on but I'm wondering if I keep my first one or keep the second one...
1. Is the replacement truly new?
2. Which SSNs are supposed to have had the separation issue resolved?
3. Is my screen separation completely normal?
4. Are my digitizer problems completely normal also?
Thanx in advance. I only have a couple weeks to return one of them....
Well it doesn't seem like anybody cares so far but after rooting and configuring the new one I've decided to keep it. It doesn't seem to get slower when playing games and the screen has remained responsive the whole time.
Thanx for your help everybody!
Hi all dear members. Since the first day i bought this phone i've been seeing lots of screen issues about it but i never thought i would have one. It's proved me wrong.
So here's my problem, my device has developed halo all around it when the bg color gets grey. Most of the time , it's not obvious. I can live with that. Recently, my screen starts to show me some tv-like stripes every now and then, it doesn't last long. after one second or two, it disappera and then it'll show from time to time.
I'm afraid it's just the start. It's similar to most of the issue ppl claim as screen flikering or screen jittering or shaking screen, it's a bit different though.
Has anyone encountered the same issue. More importantly, has anyone found any solutions yet? I searched google and failed to find answers. And i looked into it on Baidu,a chinese search engine, where i found some answers that claims it's not the screen issue ,instead , it's just the ribbon cable is lose. And anyone who replace a new screen for that is stupid.I'm just not sure about this.
My phone was bought on the internet and shipped to China, thus, I don't have warranty to rely on. And my phone is only 10 months old. I never dropped it and i have kept it well.(LG logo on the rear back still falls off), I just don't get why LG made this so vulnerable.
Even though i have ordered the nexus 6, my g2 running CM12 is still crazily fast and I don't want to give up on it. I'm so happy about my d802 except for all issues about the screen.
Any help would be aprreciated. Thanks again. Hi all dear members. Since the first day i bought this phone i've been seeing lots of screen issues about it but i never thought i would have one. It's proved me wrong.
So here's my problem, my device has developed halo all around it when the bg color gets grey. Most of the time , it's not obvious. I can live with that. Recently, my screen starts to show me some tv-like stripes every now and then, it doesn't last long. after one second or two, it disappera and then it'll show from time to time.
I'm afraid it's just the start. It's similar to most of the issue ppl claim as screen flikering or screen jittering or shaking screen, it's a bit different though.
Has anyone encountered the same issue. More importantly, has anyone found any solutions yet? I searched google and failed to find answers. And i looked into it on Baidu,a chinese search engine, where i found some answers that claims it's not the screen issue ,instead , it's just the ribbon cable is lose. And anyone who replace a new screen for that is stupid.I'm just not sure about this.
My phone was bought on the internet and shipped to China, thus, I don't have warranty to rely on. And my phone is only 10 months old. I never dropped it and i have kept it well.(LG logo on the rear back still falls off), I just don't get why LG made this so vulnerable.
Even though i have ordered the nexus 6, my g2 running CM12 is still crazily fast and I don't want to give up on it. I'm so happy about my d802 except for all issues about the screen.
Any help would be aprreciated. Thanks again.
Hi, I also have a problem with the screen on my lg g2, appeared to me that the white line disappears and comes back, when I do print screen and transfer the image on the computer that line is not visible, and that line is not always the same intenziteta.Try to do print screen and set an image or we send the mail to compare the problem
i'm so pissed about the screen, yes, my gnex bought 3 years ago looks yellow and ****ty. but other than that, totally fine, but for g2, ive read so many complaints about it. Guess no one has figured it out. Maybe I will open my phone and try to figure out when the screen completely goes crazy. During I type, it has happed for 4 times . so very annoying.
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I think you should try to put in some rom, I hope it's a software problem, I found the solution for my phone cloudy g3:good:
i flash different cm12 nightlies. i don't think its a software related issue. I'm not the only one with this issue. Yesterday I opened this phone ,well with my fingernails. And coz I didn't have the right screwdriver, I wasn't able to open that black cover at the button down bellow the battery, but I cleared the places around the USB port and there's a black tape glued near the camera , I pressed it and I put the phone together and guess what, the problem was gone for one day, and I will continue to keep an eye on it.
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Hello,
The left side of the screen shows some Missingno type glitching (I've attached some pics)
Does anyone know where this type of problem comes from?
I had the screen replaced and it worked beautifully afterwards for a couple of days...
I also installed system updates.. so I'm wondering; is this a hardware or software issue?
Thanks for your time and interest
/Shady69
Happened to my wife. Needed to be returned and fixed, hardware glitch not software. I am not sure if it was a screen issue or some other hardware.
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Did you have the screen replaced because of the screen flashing, or did the flashes start only after you had the screen replaced?
If the problem has been consistent over the course of two different screens, it would point towards a hardware fault on the sending end of the display connector, right where the ribbons leave the motherboard.
If this problem is brand-new, it might just be that the display connector was not fully secured when the new screen was installed.
Mine is doing the exact same thing. Left side goes all grey and static looking.
I took it apart and reseated the screen ribbon connector and at first I thought it made a difference, but now it continues to glitch out. I took it apart a second time and it has the half screen right at boot up. Sometimes it goes away just setting on the desk but seems to come back regularly. Its only the visual part of the screen, the touch points are still all in the same locations. And when I took a screen shot while it was glitching, the screen shot came out normal. So I am hoping its only the screen/digitizer that is going bad.
I am going to buy a new screen and see if that fixes it. Its only $60 on eBay and its pretty simple to take apart. I will post back if it fixes the problem. That way if someone else has the issue they will know.
Moto x style display problem
I have got the similar problems with display and I will return for warranty repair. I will tell you later what happened.
Downgrade to Lollipop , It worked for me.!
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(This is the tip for everyone)
I replaced the screen and that seems to have fixed it for now. I haven't had much chance to use it since the screen replacement though. I will update in the next week or so and let everyone know how the screen replacement holds up.
The replacement screen only lasted about a week and now the righthand side has glitched out. I am going to take it apart and put it back together but i think its time for a new phone.
These phone are getting cheap and I really like it so I may just get another. Although the lure of a dual sim version is attractive.