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Background: So I was running Windows 8 Built 2400 and I wanted to upgrade the new built. I decided to Download BluePoison and download windows built 8400 from there. I put it in a bootable USB and ran it but something when wrong and didn't let me install it. So I decided to go to windows 8 official website and download the official windows. I install it and everything work then I rebooted.
Now when my pc rebooted It let me to a blue screen where its gave me 3 options: (1) Windows 8 Volume 2 (2) Windows 8 Volume 2 (3) Choose Options { can remember exact name }. When I choose (1) it boots up regularly. When I pick (2) it gives me and error that windows can run cause a file its missing ( Im pretty sure this is some left over from the installation that fail)
So does anyone know how I can stop thing and just let windows boot into option (1) automatically
Open explorer, right click Computer, hit properties, hit advanced system settings, then hit the settings button in the Startup and Recovery group.
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ShadowEO said:
Open explorer, right click Computer, hit properties, hit advanced system settings, then hit the settings button in the Startup and Recovery group.
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Thank You. That work
Is there anyway to deleted the leftover from the other operation system?
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Thank You. That work
Is there anyway to deleted the leftover from the other operation system?
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if its installed to a different partition then right click in the bottom right corner of desktop to give you the quick menu, go to disk management and delete the no longer needed partition.
It would be wise to make sure you know which one it is, check in My computer, you will see the drive you are currently using Windows from will have a blue windows logo on it. Then expand your existing partition to use the space
If you somehow installed it on the same partition or it just went wrong then check for Windows.old folders, its unlikely that Windows will have installed to the same folder
Also hit Win-R to bring up the Run dialog box
type in MSCONFIG
Goto Boot
select the dead OS and delete it
dazza9075 said:
if its installed to a different partition then right click in the bottom right corner of desktop to give you the quick menu, go to disk management and delete the no longer needed partition.
It would be wise to make sure you know which one it is, check in My computer, you will see the drive you are currently using Windows from will have a blue windows logo on it. Then expand your existing partition to use the space
If you somehow installed it on the same partition or it just went wrong then check for Windows.old folders, its unlikely that Windows will have installed to the same folder
Also hit Win-R to bring up the Run dialog box
type in MSCONFIG
Goto Boot
select the dead OS and delete it
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When I press Disk Management and there four Volume ((C: ),HP_TOOLS(F: ),RECOVERY ), and System. So I don't know which one to deleted.
I also check and there not Windows.old folder I believe I deleted it.
When I Press Win-R and Go to MSCONFIG. I deleted the dead OS
SO DO I deleted anything in Disk Management
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When I press Disk Management and there four Volume ((C: ),HP_TOOLS(F: ),RECOVERY ), and System. So I don't know which one to deleted.
I also check and there not Windows.old folder I believe I deleted it.
When I Press Win-R and Go to MSCONFIG. I deleted the dead OS
SO DO I deleted anything in Disk Management
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nope, I wouldn't delete any of them
if you want to be sure, open up a command console
type in diskpart
then type list volume
it will give you a list of all your volumes.
if you can copy it or take a screen shot and post it here we can take a look
The drives you have listed tho look like valid partitions that HP would install for recovery purposes so whatever happened with the other install it doesn't look like it changed anything other than messing with the boot config.
dazza9075 said:
nope, I wouldn't delete any of them
if you want to be sure, open up a command console
type in diskpart
then type list volume
it will give you a list of all your volumes.
if you can copy it or take a screen shot and post it here we can take a look
The drives you have listed tho look like valid partitions that HP would install for recovery purposes so whatever happened with the other install it doesn't look like it changed anything other than messing with the boot config.
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Here its a pick. Also I agrre with you that the other partitions are for HO recovery purposes. DO you believe since I deleted the dead OS from MSCONFIG and deleted Windows.old folder that there should not be any leftover from the previous instillation
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Here its a pick. Also I agrre with you that the other partitions are for HO recovery purposes. DO you believe since I deleted the dead OS from MSCONFIG and deleted Windows.old folder that there should not be any leftover from the previous instillation
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yes, from what you've told me that sounds like it should be it
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yes, from what you've told me that sounds like it should be it
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Thanks for your help
Any time mate, my pleasure
I installed WMC and my computer has begun to act erratically and it says I'm not activated occasionally but I can use all personalize options, so I want to refresh my PC to a clean slate.
When I go into computer settings to refresh (or completely wipe) my computer it says error, nothing has changed and I can't refresh it. I'm stuck in this crap...
any help or guidance is appreciated.
thanks
... have you tried searching the web or looking on any real tech support forums? This is a developer forum. Unless you ran some code from here and it broke something, you're more likely to get your tech support questions answered somewhere that does tech support.
That said, if you have (or can download) Windows install media, I'd just try running from that. Re-installing the OS is functionally identical to the full reset, and doing an install with the "keep my files" option is the same as refresh.
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I installed WMC and my computer has begun to act erratically and it says I'm not activated occasionally but I can use all personalize options, so I want to refresh my PC to a clean slate.
When I go into computer settings to refresh (or completely wipe) my computer it says error, nothing has changed and I can't refresh it. I'm stuck in this crap...
any help or guidance is appreciated.
thanks
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It probably won't help, but have you checked for a restore point in the desktop?
I had some trouble a couple of weeks ago and ended up resetting the entire computer, which solved the issues. The desktop was fine, but the Windows 8 start screen tiles did not work.
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... have you tried searching the web or looking on any real tech support forums? This is a developer forum. Unless you ran some code from here and it broke something, you're more likely to get your tech support questions answered somewhere that does tech support.
That said, if you have (or can download) Windows install media, I'd just try running from that. Re-installing the OS is functionally identical to the full reset, and doing an install with the "keep my files" option is the same as refresh.
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I have checked windows 8 forums but they're all unanswered for the most part. I've tried everything they said to fix it. Is there some sort of file I could delete that refreshing would replace that would force the computer to need a refresh?
What do you mean by restore point on the desktop? I don't have an earlier system restore point, I checked. I deleted my old windows.old folder thinking that was the issue. No fix.
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I have checked windows 8 forums but they're all unanswered for the most part. I've tried everything they said to fix it. Is there some sort of file I could delete that refreshing would replace that would force the computer to need a refresh?
What do you mean by restore point on the desktop? I don't have an earlier system restore point, I checked. I deleted my old windows.old folder thinking that was the issue. No fix.
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What about being able to create your own restore media? Is that part of what is not working?
any restoration methods that don't need a windows 8 cd work fine
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any restoration methods that don't need a windows 8 cd work fine
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Well, you may have to reinstall from the recovery media. I know you lose your data, but at least everything will work.
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Well, you may have to reinstall from the recovery media. I know you lose your data, but at least everything will work.
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Ok so my problem's fixed. I have a server at home so I backed up everything, used vaio care to do a factory reset, somehow ended up on windows 7, clean install of windows 8 activated and I'm good.
Thanks for the help in general guys!
If there are other owners of TF810 here, perhaps we could exchange our experiences about this device.
As awesome as it is it has its weak points, mainly (IMHO) due to bugs in the system itself and poor support form Asus.
My issues:
1. Sleep/hibernate - most of the time 9 out of 10 time - my TF810 just hangs and does not want to wake up.
If I pres Win button on tablet I do get vibration but nothing else happens. I have to press & hold power button for few seconds. After that I got to do it again, but this time it vibrates and starts to boot from scratch.
2. Dock does not seem to be actually charging tablet. I left the two connected for 1 night (unplugged) with tablet and when I woke up in the morning (TF810 was not shut down prev. evening) what I found is this:
http://sdrv.ms/123sQCx so it seems that during night nothing happened
3. Few times so far when dock and station were connected I have lost ability to use cursor and touch pad.
4. one time so far (I had to use restore point) I have lost touch gestures on the tablet. Touch itself was working - I could move Modern UI screen, start apps. But I could not close any of them with touch or get Charm bar up swiping from the right.
Did anyone else had similar problems?
One more thing:
If I would have to reinstall Windows 8 on this device from scratch - how do I do it?
I have not noticed any Win8 activation/serial key.
I have noticed that there is a hidden partition (actually there is few of them) on the C: drive - if I would have to start W8 from one of them - how?
Lastly...
I suppose that with limited space on this device it would be best if I could backup (what is important from those hidden partitions on cloud/nas drive) in case I will need it in future. This way I could get this space back and if needed lod backed up stuff to USB stick/micro sd card and restore form there,
Does any one knows step by step guide - since it is expensive device and Asus support is shy (to say the least) I would love to make sure I do not f..up something...
The key might be printed on a sticker in the battery compartment.
Right click on My computer > properties. Does it show "Windows 8 Pro 64bit" ? If not What is the operating system?
The recovery that you are talking is a separate partition or a folder on C drive?. Does it have a single file named RefreshImage.wim?
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The key might be printed on a sticker in the battery compartment.
Right click on My computer > properties. Does it show "Windows 8 Pro 64bit" ? If not What is the operating system?
The recovery that you are talking is a separate partition or a folder on C drive?. Does it have a single file named RefreshImage.wim?
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There is no such thing as battery compartment on TF810 + if you would read title of my post you would not ask about the system (especially that TF810 runs Atom Z2760).
Anyway, on your main question and my issue - this is how 64GB drive built in this system looks like:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=9B14B7F8CBC1A2BE!16032&authkey=!ACGHuYfKHyZ5fpM
So there is few GB that I could get back...
Just how?
Thing is you want to delete that partition and do a clean install
Whenever I have tried the clean install or Reset option Under settings > general, Win8 asks for a product key
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Thing is you want to delete that partition and do a clean install
Whenever I have tried the clean install or Reset option Under settings > general, Win8 asks for a product key
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Sorry but I do not follow...
I do want to get rid of this partition - it is 8GB. |Considering my drive is only 64GB - it is a lot of space I could use.
I need to be sure (before I do that) that I will be able to get W8 back on TF810 if I need to.
DVD I got is with W8 Pro (both 32/64bits) and key has been used so it will not work.
With Asus I have not seen key anywhere
I did some research and according to it Windows 8 comes with OEM Activation 3.0. It means that your product key is embedded in bios. Problem solved
Also MS has provided its own tutorial to copy recovery partition to USB drive for Surface pro.It should not work for you
http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-US/support/storage-files-and-folders/create-a-recovery-drive
After this you can format the 8GB partition and label it so it will show up as a new partition.
If you want to merge it with C, you will have to "Delete everything and re-install Windows" under settings > general and delete both partitions during re installation
There are a number of tools that can merge partitions without re installing but I haven't used them on Win8 so not sure about their compatibility
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I did some research and according to it Windows 8 comes with OEM Activation 3.0. It means that your product key is embedded in bios. Problem solved
Also MS has provided its own tutorial to copy recovery partition to USB drive for Surface pro.It should not work for you
http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-US/support/storage-files-and-folders/create-a-recovery-drive
After this you can format the 8GB partition and label it so it will show up as a new partition.
If you want to merge it with C, you will have to "Delete everything and re-install Windows" under settings > general and delete both partitions during re installation
There are a number of tools that can merge partitions without re installing but I haven't used them on Win8 so not sure about their compatibility
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Thanks for the link - I'll read it now.
Merging without re installation is the most tempting option...
Aomei Partition manager is the one that I used on Win7 for this. It is pretty good. However I haven't tried it on 8 yet.
to be sure this article confirms that you will not need a product key http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7-57554240-292/windows-8-moves-to-bios-based-product-keys/
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Aomei Partition manager is the one that I used on Win7 for this. It is pretty good. However I haven't tried it on 8 yet.
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Thanks. I got to buy 8GB stick first (and 64GB micro SD card). I chave checked - Indeed I got Recovery option as described by MS.
Just a question. I want to disable secure boot/TPM completely on my Surface Pro 128Gb. Can this be done?
When I disable them both in the UEFi-Bios, it seems it is still working.
I have some programmes from which i changed a few dll's, and when secure boot/TPM recognises them at startup, it boots my Surface in UEFI-Bios mode, with no way of getting Windows 8.1 started.
Anyone had any clues as how to overcome this problem?
Do you get any error messages? Do you know that those changes still result in a bootable system to begin with? Have you tried using a debug or testsigning mode in the booatloader? (If Secure Boot is enabled, you won't be able to set those options, so it's a decent test of that anyhow.)
Oh, and disabling the TPM is generally a bad idea. This is especially true if you have BitLocker enabled, since by default BL requires the TPM. You *should* just be getting a "Enter your BitLocker recovery key" prompt in that case, though.
I dont get any error messages, just my Surface reboots in UEFI-boot mode, where i can enable/disable TPM-secure boot. Whatever I do there, whatever I change there, after restarting I get back in the same UEFI-Bios screen. The only way to recover from this is by resetting my Windows system from my reccovery.
I have installed a program called Trados Studio. For this I have created a few DLL's of my own. When I replace the orginal DLL's with the ones created by me, this happens. I guess because my own created DLL's aren't trusted, while the original DLL's were trusted during installation of Trados Studio.
Well, depending on what DLLs those are, the system may check their signatures even with Secure Boot disabled, and refuse to boot because they're modified. Thus the suggestion to use kernel debug, or TestSigning (you might need to test-sign the modified DLLs for the latter option to work).
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Well, depending on what DLLs those are, the system may check their signatures even with Secure Boot disabled, and refuse to boot because they're modified. Thus the suggestion to use kernel debug, or TestSigning (you might need to test-sign the modified DLLs for the latter option to work).
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Do you need a keyboard connected to get out of the UEFI-Bios screen, after doing a system recovery the reboot has left me at the American Megatrends Bios screen asking if I want to turn off the TPM. Any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: All is now OK after connecting a touch cover, a regular keyboard would not work but the touch cover and the Esc key did the trick
Hi everyone,
A friend of mine got a second-hand tablet Samsung 500t from one of her relatives.
She set her password, but she forgot it after a while. She asked me to help her to sort the problem out but I don't know windows RT and I don't know exactly what to do. In addition, we don't have any cd or user's manual. I tried to reset and I launched the procedure which always ended up with this message:
"Insert your windows installation or recovery media to continue".
I don't know what to do now, and, unfortunately, she hasn't got any back up.
Can anyone help me? Thank you.
Is she using a local account or a Microsoft account? If the latter, you can just reset your password the same way you would if you forgot, say, your Hotmail password. Go to https://login.live.com and follow the "forgot password" steps.
If it's a local account, that's more awkward. There are various steps (short of a full wipe) that you can do, but if you don't know the Admin password then most of the non-wipe options require things like Linux liveCD (or live flashdrive) images and forcibly resetting the password.
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Is she using a local account or a Microsoft account? If the latter, you can just reset your password the same way you would if you forgot, say, your Hotmail password. Go to login.live and follow the "forgot password" steps.
If it's a local account, that's more awkward. There are various steps (short of a full wipe) that you can do, but if you don't know the Admin password then most of the non-wipe options require things like Linux liveCD (or live flashdrive) images and forcibly resetting the password.
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She is using a local account. We asked her relative, the former owner, about a Microsoft account, but he didn't know and remember anything about that.
Can you explain me more about using a Distro Linux to reset the password on the tablet?
I used a linux live many times, and I can manage it for easy tasks, but I have never used it to reset or to recover a password on a Window OS.
Thank you, Bob.
If you boot a Linux live image - probably off a flashdrive, unless you have a handy USB optical drive - it can mount the internal NTFS file system and find Security Account Manager (SAM). There are tools that will modify a SAM file to overwrite the password for a user. It's also possible for some tools to brute-force the password, though this can take a long time, or to look it up in a "rainbow table" of pre-computed password hashes (won't work for really complex passwords, though). Forcibly resetting the password will cause you to lose any data encrypted with it, which may include things like passwords the OS was storing for you.
Some stuff that can be used to try and recover passwords (or reset them): http://smallvoid.com/article/winnt-password-recovery.html
There's a bunch of others out there too. Here's another link: http://www.mydigitallife.info/reset...trator-or-user-password-with-chntpw-in-linux/
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If you boot a Linux live image - probably off a flashdrive, unless you have a handy USB optical drive - it can mount the internal NTFS file system and find Security Account Manager (SAM). There are tools that will modify a SAM file to overwrite the password for a user. It's also possible for some tools to brute-force the password, though this can take a long time, or to look it up in a "rainbow table" of pre-computed password hashes (won't work for really complex passwords, though). Forcibly resetting the password will cause you to lose any data encrypted with it, which may include things like passwords the OS was storing for you.
Some stuff that can be used to try and recover passwords (or reset them):smallvoid
There's a bunch of others out there too. Here's another link: mydigitallife.info/reset-and-change-windows-nt2000-administrator-or-user-password-
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Can I simply delete the SAM file? I don't think she cares to lose any data so much.
Ok. I was wondering how I can run the usb drive on a windows rt tablet. Is there a "boot device option" like on an ordinary pc/notebook?
Thanks again?:
PS: By the way, where can I find an image of Window 8 rt if I want to totally reset the tablet and install a clear OS?
Aw crap, I can't believe this but I forgot you were talking about an RT device. Forget everything I just said; Secure Boot won't allow it to run a Linux image even if you had an ARM-based one.
Deleting the entire SAM will render the device unbootable. It's not just user account logon details stored there; every account (including the various system ones) are there. On the other hand, if you can extract the SAM somehow, another computer will be able to edit it just fine even though it comes from RT; it's a registry hive and is architecture-independent.
Total reset is probably the easiest option, if she doesn't mind the risk of losing data. It requires a device-specific image though; there should be one (recovery partition) on the tablet, but if that was removed you'll need to find one for download or get Samsung to handle it for you. The Surface RT / 2 images are available here on XDA but I don't know about any of the Samsung tablets.
Go look on the support website (or call support) for instructions on performing a factory reset of the tablet under normal circumstances. That will work if the recovery partition wasn't removed.
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Aw crap, I can't believe this but I forgot you were talking about an RT device. Forget everything I just said; Secure Boot won't allow it to run a Linux image even if you had an ARM-based one.
Deleting the entire SAM will render the device unbootable. It's not just user account logon details stored there; every account (including the various system ones) are there. On the other hand, if you can extract the SAM somehow, another computer will be able to edit it just fine even though it comes from RT; it's a registry hive and is architecture-independent.
Total reset is probably the easiest option, if she doesn't mind the risk of losing data. It requires a device-specific image though; there should be one (recovery partition) on the tablet, but if that was removed you'll need to find one for download or get Samsung to handle it for you. The Surface RT / 2 images are available here on XDA but I don't know about any of the Samsung tablets.
Go look on the support website (or call support) for instructions on performing a factory reset of the tablet under normal circumstances. That will work if the recovery partition wasn't removed.
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Ok, I understood.
Can I somehow install a Window 8.1 pro x86 on this device? It has got an Intel Atom processor, after all.
I need drivers, though.
Thanks again.
Now you say it's a x86 device while earlier it was ARM (Windows RT). Make up your mind, it can't be both!
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Now you say it's a x86 device while earlier it was ARM (Windows RT). Make up your mind, it can't be both!
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...hmm actually I'm not sure. The tablet is not mine. I thought it had a Windows Rt OS. But since you say that it can't be an x86 device with an RT OS at same time...I need to find out what it really is. Thanks.
OK
I've finally found out what the OS is?
It's window 8 32bit.
The complete name of the tablet is:
samsung ativ smart xe500t1c-a01it
More, I have it at my home now.
Can we continue the topic?
Thanks
Then the methods GoodDayToDie mentioned in post #4 should work
ok
I fixed it by using Lazesoft recovery.
Thanks
Loss Password? All is not loss, even with the fact you can not boot from a USB stick drive with a password reset tool on it. The answer is actually quite simple with local access to the device Windows 8 is installed on. As long as you can get into recovery by using the "hold volume up" and pushing "Power" button method. You then simply picked Advance Recovery Options till you see Command Prompt in the menu and here's the link that'll take you the rest of the way below. What this does is replace Access Tools (for blind, etc) in Login Screen (lower left corner) with a Command Prompt window. Since it's in with the Root C drive, it makes it quite simple to merely change the password right there and be able to use it to log in immediately.
Thought your computer was safe from hackers locally? Think again (can only be run locally though, not remotely), but if you didn't have this option none of the free or pay4 password reset tools would work either. This is what they are actually doing and then they remove the Command Prompt window when done. Just like you will after using this very simple method. Or you need to use Windows Password Key to reset Samsung password.