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OK, I just downloaded and installed the 3.1 update, running stock OS.
CONFIG
I have a 32GB A500 which I assume is main memory / SSD. I also added a 32GB micro SDHC chip in it, and for testing, an 8GB thumb drive in the large USB port. They all show up in system Settings,
When I have had the A500 connected via the mini-USB port, the memory / SSD shows up, but not the sdhc card, and not a thumb drive if i plug that in (when I look at it as an extended drive)
Some applications can see memory / SSD, and the micro SDHC chip. For example, ES File Explorer has a tab which cycles between the memory / SSD file system, and that on the SHDC chip. It doesn't include USB storage.
QUESTION
First, I'd like to confirm that something (anything) can read the USB file system.
Next, I am looking for a utility that would allow me to see all three file systems: main/SSD, SDHC, and USB, and move things back and forth between them, and to/from my PC as well. Recommendations?
As far as I know there is nothing that will allow you to read the 'external' drives from PC. This was supposed to be fixed in 3.1 (just another thing borked..), so go figure when or IF it'll ever be available.
Incidentally, my 2.2 Archos 101 did all that perfectly, but the new android versions won't, funny eh?
Assuming he has the proper drivers installed, what if he went micro usb connected to pc and thumb drive in tablet. He could read/transfer files from thumb to tablet and have the pc read/transfer to/from the tablet. If that makes sense or helps.
Get a file explorer and go to the mnt directory. the internal, external and usb storage are all there.
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
GCurry said:
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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1) I use Root Explorer and I can see the USB Storage in the MNT directory in the root of the device.
2) from the PC, adb i assume, but i've never done this. For network, try Samba server - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba&feature=search_result.
GCurry said:
I guess I'd be happy with an answer to the first question below, happier with an answer to the second:
1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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To answer the first one, no, there is no application to read the external data drives.
As for the second, to transfer files between these, you need to get a file explorer like Root Explorer. The multimedia apps have the ability to access the external data drives so if you want to store music and/or movies on them, you do not have to use up your internal memory.
Hope that answered your question.
Does 3.1 add ntfs support??....if not can I make it support without rooting my tab??
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Root explorer works great, so does File Manager HD
GCurry said:
OK, I just downloaded and installed the 3.1 update, running stock OS.
QUESTION
First, I'd like to confirm that something (anything) can read the USB file system.
Next, I am looking for a utility that would allow me to see all three file systems: main/SSD, SDHC, and USB, and move things back and forth between them, and to/from my PC as well. Recommendations?
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I use Astro, in Astro I see them all. Home, Up and you'll see all the storage areas.
Astro will allow you to move things back and forth between SD, USB and Internal storage.
Nothing that I know of, will allow you to directly view your USB or MicroSD using your PC, by directly I mean through the microusb connection.
There's an app called Wifi File Explorer Pro which may allow you to see them on the PC however I'm not certain as I never used it extensively and may be more trouble than it's worth as you'll have to open a port in your router for it to work properly.
Hope this helps.
Any file manager can access /mnt/external_sd and /mnt/usb_storage.
Drive mount or USB mount all can mount ntfs drives. Must be rooted.
Can only access internal memory front PC. End of story until google/Acer fixes it.
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Euclid's Brother said:
Any file manager can access /mnt/external_sd and /mnt/usb_storage.
Drive mount or USB mount all can mount ntfs drives. Must be rooted.
Can only access internal memory front PC. End of story until google/Acer fixes it.
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I am on 3.1 ota and I wanted to root it for ntfs support.....but don't want to void my warranty.....(weather here is too humid so generally all electronic devices don't work or something or the other happens to them)...so I will unroot later to claim my warranty.....what else can I do with root.....(no custom roms..).......
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1. Is there any app, running on the tablet, which will allow me to see the file system on a USB thumbdrive? Which one. It's odd to me that I can see the drive, apparently properly formed, in the tablet "system settings" app, but (so far) haven't seen how to get at it myself, and haven't found an app which access it either.
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Any file system application (ASTRO, Root Explorer) can access all storage devices in your system. The location for the storage devices is /mnt.
Note that the /mnt/sdcard directory is actually a FUSE mount of /data/local
The directories related to storage are:
/mnt/sdcard - a FUSE image of /data/local. This is internal storage.
/mnt/external_sd - The microSD card. Must be FAT32.
/mnt/usb_drive - A USB drive of some sorts...can be a thumb drive or a hard drive. Not sure about 3.1, but 3.0.1 needed this drive to be FAT32.
2. Is there an application, running on the PC, or an app running on the tablet, which let's me see the file systems on tablet, tablet's sdhc chip, thumb drive and PC storage in a unified way, so I can move things around without unplugging stuff? That is harder, but one of those networked file access utilities might do it.
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Answer...other than ADB, no (until Acer fixes that). When you mount your tablet to your PC, you are connecting to a FUSE partition, which is an image of /data/local. You can transfer files between /data/local (via FUSE partition) and your PC. Unfortunately, because you are accessing a FUSE partition, you are restricted to only /data/local (so you can't get to /mnt). ADB is a known exception (as it uses USB Debugging to access the tablet), but that isn't graphical at all (all command line, which means it is a lot of typing).
op mentioned ES file explorer
Use it myself - as I really like the interface and the LAN access works great for me.
You can see all your storage devices from es explorer
/mnt/sdcard = internal memory
/mnt/external_sd = microsd card
/mnt/USB_drive = USB based storage device
If you want to mount ntfs you need to root.
I use this USB host cable and it works great. Have tested it with my 750gb Oyen and 320gb WD Passport external HDD's, several usb flash drives (8-16gb), San disk USB memory card reader, and a USB keyboard.
For those having issues getting their Xoom to recognize USB storage devices here's what I've got and did to get it to work: I flashed my XOOM (3.1) to the 2.6.36.4 Tiamat_Xoom-v1.4.4-Full_Throttle Kernel and was unable to get the USBMount to recognize drives or storage at first. I installed USB Mass Storage Watcher from the market (it's free) and it works awesome! Can mount any storage I want (NTFS, FAT16/32, HFS, HFS+, EXT2, ETX3, EXT4) with any capacity. I think this app will work with any rooted Xoom (or other devices). Under my Kernel my USB host is located under/usbOTG.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for your post, im having trouble getting my Wifi Xoom usb host to work, i have tried making a cable from the tutorials around here and i have also bought an OTG cable but didn't get any luck having it working, im on HC 3.2 Tiamat 2.1.0 Tachi stock GPU , i tried installing busybox - OTG watcher - Drive Mount etc. and followed all kind of guides in the forum and on google with no luck, i tried usb mice , more than 6 flash drives, usb 3g dongles and other devices without any indication of any kind of connection or powering up, so most probably the problem would be from the cable...as i ordered xoom usb otg cables from ebay and until i receive them i was wondering if there might be anything i was missing?
hunix said:
Thanks for your post, im having trouble getting my Wifi Xoom usb host to work, i have tried making a cable from the tutorials around here and i have also bought an OTG cable but didn't get any luck having it working, im on HC 3.2 Tiamat 2.1.0 Tachi stock GPU , i tried installing busybox - OTG watcher - Drive Mount etc. and followed all kind of guides in the forum and on google with no luck, i tried usb mice , more than 6 flash drives, usb 3g dongles and other devices without any indication of any kind of connection or powering up, so most probably the problem would be from the cable...as i ordered xoom usb otg cables from ebay and until i receive them i was wondering if there might be anything i was missing?
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Sounds like your cable is not OTG. A lot of them are not. Try it again with your Moto cable when it comes. Also, try rebooting with the cable and drive plugged in, with OTG Watcher running. That has worked for me in the past.
Xoom 3G, stock FW 3.2, non rooted and ot cable
So - just installed USB Mass Storage Watcher OTG - https://market.android.com/details?i...tcherotg&hl=pl
Pendrive is recognized by the program immediately and displays the mount point /dev/block/sda - but unfortunately the next value is 0MB. And this is like that on every pendrive. Do I need root to mount it, or do you have any other idea to mount my pendrive without root?
sdsi said:
Xoom 3G, stock FW 3.2, non rooted and ot cable
So - just installed USB Mass Storage Watcher OTG - https://market.android.com/details?i...tcherotg&hl=pl
Pendrive is recognized by the program immediately and displays the mount point /dev/block/sda - but unfortunately the next value is 0MB. And this is like that on every pendrive. Do I need root to mount it, or do you have any other idea to mount my pendrive without root?
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You do need root to mount the drive-to use Xoom in USB Host Mode.
Only root? Is that all that needs to be done?
spinstartshere said:
Only root? Is that all that needs to be done?
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You need a kernel or rom that supports OTG. Tiamat Odachi kernel, Moray rom, the 4G rom, and the Rogue Rana kernel should all support usb host mode. You will also need a real otg cable and probably an app that helps you mount the drive, such as USB Mount All or Drive Mount.
okantomi said:
You need a kernel or rom that supports OTG. Tiamat Odachi kernel, Moray rom, the 4G rom, and the Rogue Rana kernel should all support usb host mode. You will also need a real otg cable and probably an app that helps you mount the drive, such as USB Mount All or Drive Mount.
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it works great on rooted stock kernel 3.2 with "Drive Mount" but from the market you can not install "Drive Mount" it says not supported.
If the program is free could someone post the apk?
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3devious said:
If the program is free could someone post the apk?
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busybox also needed
it is free and here is it
I have xoom wifi usa version with 4.0 version that is recently released.
my xoom is NOT ROOTED.
with new version of andriod os, am i able to read/write to USB drive Or still need rooted?
thanks in advance.
uhs74 said:
I have xoom wifi usa version with 4.0 version that is recently released.
my xoom is NOT ROOTED.
with new version of andriod os, am i able to read/write to USB drive Or still need rooted?
thanks in advance.
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Just tried with a genuine motorola OTG cable, which works with the same stick because I used it for upgrading my UK one to US ICS 4.0.3, and it doesn't work without rooting. I still can't root mine yet because my micro SD card for backup hasn't come!
hello
i have wifi xoom android 4.0 rooted with timat kernal
the usb host mount fine but i coudln't found the files in the file explorer
when i mount hard drive fat 32
also when i mounted the ntfs hard drive it shows me 0mb in the usb mount app !
what is the problem
read usb drive from rooted xoom
i have rooted my xoom (wifi usa)based on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446469
I installed stickmount app (https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount&hl=en) from market.
i used Micro USB Male to USB A Female Adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Micro-USB-Mal...YMU6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1329151612&sr=8-2)
once connected to xoom the usb drive ,StickMount app recognize and mount it on specific drive (folder) which display on screen for some duration.
then goto "ES file explorer" or "Astro file explorer" and select that folder and you can see the contents of usb drive.
usb drive should be in format Fat32 mode.I have not tried with NTFS or other format.
Hope this helps somebody.
uhs74 said:
i have rooted my xoom (wifi usa)based on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446469
I installed stickmount app (https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount&hl=en) from market.
i used Micro USB Male to USB A Female Adapter (http://www.amazon.com/Micro-USB-Mal...YMU6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1329151612&sr=8-2)
once connected to xoom the usb drive ,StickMount app recognize and mount it on specific drive (folder) which display on screen for some duration.
then goto "ES file explorer" or "Astro file explorer" and select that folder and you can see the contents of usb drive.
usb drive should be in format Fat32 mode.I have not tried with NTFS or other format.
Hope this helps somebody.
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You got it to work using that USB adapter? That's not a USB OTG adapter. It really shouldnt work using that one.
derek4484 said:
You got it to work using that USB adapter? That's not a USB OTG adapter. It really shouldnt work using that one.
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Oh i got it wrong link but i used OTG adapter.
derek4484 said:
You got it to work using that USB adapter? That's not a USB OTG adapter. It really shouldnt work using that one.
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How's that digger from a USB ORG adapter? Just curious.
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Everything works only if its Fat32. NTFS needs new kernal loaded. I am Rooted but Stock. 4.0.4.
Reboot loop after trying to get external USB to work
My Xoom WiFi running Team EOS build 102 would not see my USB drives. I installed 'USB Mass Storage Watcher' from the market. This app then prompted me to install the OTG version. I followed instruction and removed original version before install the OTG version. The OTG version also prompted me to down load another version of Busy Box, which I did.
I could then see one of my USB (see size and space used), but could not see files or folders in the mount location. I restarted my Xoom (I live in a windows world and reboot fixes a lot of issues LOL), Xoom got stuck in reboot loop. I went into recovery mode and clear my Dalvik, but this had no effect on reboot loop.
Luck for me I had a Nandroid backup from 2 days earlier (pheew). Restored this and back to normal.
Not sure if anyone has had this problem, but I strongly recommended making nandroid backup before doing any device driver updates.
No Prob...
im on the same software version as u, i connected usb drives, mouse and keyboard without any problems, just wanted to let u kno
OK, to get to this message, I had to read a warning about getting banned if not a developer thread.
Well, this is. Sort of.
I posted a question in the general forum and commented on the same subject in the Q&A forum. I think I know my answer but I would like to know why this problem exists.
I just got my tablet Friday evening. I figured it all out and was able to use external storage on drives and USB sticks. When I try to connect my phone as a disk drive, no files.
I am assuming that access to these files is for lack of root access, which I am not going to get because I immediately let it update to 3.2.
So, could someone tell me if lack of root is the answer and why? The phone does instantly show up as a disk drive on XP and Windows 7.
Thanks, and moderators, please don't kick me out.
Did you try mounting your phone, if you can? And yes root it would be easier with the usb mount app, or just use an app like es file explorer that can go into the root section without root then go to mnt and in one of those files should be your phone files, because i have an env touch and i use usb mass storage and it shows up on my iconia
Thanks. Yes, I did see the folder MNT but it did not show up. Using my usual file explorers, I can see the internal storage and the SD card. The next entry is the USB STORAGE where I find no files when the phone is connected.
If I connect an external drive or usb memory device, I can access all the files. When I connect the phone as a drive I see that nothing is there.
When I connect these same devices to my home pc running Win 7 and laptop with XP, they all connect the same way.
There is something in the OS that is not letting my tablet file system see my phone file system.
Thanks for the reply, I'll keep my eye on this thread.
I'm having the same problem, i can import photos or videos from the phone when the phone is on mtp mode (media transfer protocol) but when in file transfer mode (msc) nothing shows up in the mnt folder or in drive mount app. i'm running taboonay 2.2 with villain kernel. It works fine with external hdd ntfs or fat. When connecting the phone to my computer i had to install a driver from windows update and it shows as an xperia arc, do i also need a driver in my tablet? Has anyone already connected and android phone to an android tablet in mass storage mode?
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Not sure Root has anything to do with it. I'm rooted on both phone and tab , and have no access to the files on my phone. When in "disk drive" mode, all it does is "charge".
Has anyone tried using MTP transfer?
I'm trying to copy some files from the phone to the computer but it seems impossible through MTP.
What other methods you can use to transfer files?
I had to use adb pull command to pull all my data before i unlock the bootloader. I'm assuming that custom ROMs will let you connect the phone as an external storage device but what about people who don't/can't install custom rom? Do they have to live with those slow MTP speeds while transferring something to the phone?
justFaisal said:
Has anyone tried using MTP transfer?
I'm trying to copy some files from the phone to the computer but it seems impossible through MTP.
What other methods you can use to transfer files?
I had to use adb pull command to pull all my data before i unlock the bootloader. I'm assuming that custom ROMs will let you connect the phone as an external storage device but what about people who don't/can't install custom rom? Do they have to live with those slow MTP speeds while transferring something to the phone?
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i had that issue with a GS3 and someone told me to try a different usb port on my computer. so i did and everything transferred much faster like it should.
s10shane said:
i had that issue with a GS3 and someone told me to try a different usb port on my computer. so i did and everything transferred much faster like it should.
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I tried everything and the only way i could get adequate speed was from adb.
I'm wondering why google didn't include external storage as an option to connect (in 4.2.2, i assume it's a software feature) like there is in some other phones that does not have sd card slot.
I don't think anything can fix MTP. It's so slow, that I have to use adb to transfer Clockworkmod backups.
I hate MTP so much.
The reason there's no mass storage option is because the geniuses at either LG or Google decided it was a good idea to make external storage a folder in /data/ rather than have a dedicated /sdcard/ partition.
Slow transfers with MTP on Nexus 4
** Note: You need a OTG cable with a power connector & ROOT
Nexus 4 - Stock ROM 4.3 ROOTED.
OTG cable with power connector
USB patch
StickMount app
An earlier version of Directory Opus (sorry, the trial expired and I did not note the exact version) seemed to do a good job of transferring files from the Nexus to the PC (Win 7), but when I tried it on another computer and it no longer worked (transfer stopped before it actually completed).
I tried the following and it worked for me:
Check these links:
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-advanced-usb-otg-nexus-4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/orig-development/usb-otg-externally-powered-usb-otg-t2181820
Use the patch that is suitable for your rom.
install StickMount, connect the usb otg cable to portable drive (in my case a seagate 320 GB Freeagent), the power, and then the phone.
The drive is mounted under /sdcard/usbstorage/sd1
You may need the ntfs-3g file from Chainfire's site.
Transfers were at 7 to 8 MBps from the Nexus to the portable drive [NO PC/Windows involved]. This is better than MTP and DirectoryOpus [when it worked] which was at around 4MBps.
The other option is to use SuperBeam app.
DirectoryOpus might work, but you probably need the right combination of MTP drivers, DirectoryOpus version and Windows version.
I have the international version of the LG G2 32gb. Stock rooted with exposed framework, one or two navbar/statusbar modules installed.
I have tried a small 4gb usb drive and the G2 recognises it just fine. I have nothing bigger except for an old (perfectly working) 100gb usb external hard disk drive ntfs format. it doesn't rely on any power. USB cable from PC powers it just fine.
So when I connect this drive via USB OTG, my G2 simply doesn't see it. I've waited more than half hour to see if it is performing a media scan silently but it still doesn't show on any of my file explorers such solid and root explorer and stock one ofcourse.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Is it because it is an external hdd?
Is it because the phone can't power it on its own?
Is it that it can read only smaller cards less than 100gb? I don't have access to anything else to test.
Is USB OTG supported in aosp roms like pac man?
Thanks guys.
subhani said:
I have the international version of the LG G2 32gb. Stock rooted with exposed framework, one or two navbar/statusbar modules installed.
I have tried a small 4gb usb drive and the G2 recognises it just fine. I have nothing bigger except for an old (perfectly working) 100gb usb external hard disk drive ntfs format. it doesn't rely on any power. USB cable from PC powers it just fine.
So when I connect this drive via USB OTG, my G2 simply doesn't see it. I've waited more than half hour to see if it is performing a media scan silently but it still doesn't show on any of my file explorers such solid and root explorer and stock one ofcourse.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Is it because it is an external hdd?
Is it because the phone can't power it on its own?
Is it that it can read only smaller cards less than 100gb? I don't have access to anything else to test.
Is USB OTG supported in aosp roms like pac man?
Thanks guys.
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NTFS
That's your problem friend... Format it to FAT32 or root and use this
Cheers!
Really? Wow, I'm gonna have to transfer all those files from the hard drive first and then format right? I hope my G2 would recognise it then. I'll post an update soon as I can get my hands on another HDD to back up to before format.
Thanks.
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The only thing is, my other small USB drive which did work via USB OTG is also NTFS format. Why would this work and not the larger capacity external HDD?
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subhani said:
The only thing is, my other small USB drive which did work via USB OTG is also NTFS format. Why would this work and not the larger capacity external HDD?
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Are you 100% certain the other one is NTFS?
Android is not NTFS compatible out of the box (unless rooted).
Cheers!
Yes I'm sure. The 4gb USB stick that works over otg cable is actually what I used to create a quick recovery drive of my win8 laptop as soon as I unboxed it. Win8 requires the flash drive to be NTFS for the recovery image to be created. So I did as it asked and formated and it produced the recovery drive on it.
I now connect it to my G2 and it recognises the flash drive and it shows the contents as recovery files for windows.
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Tldr both drives are NTFS format.
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