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Well, as much as I love the handset itself I'm just not computer savvy enough to make Android do what I want it to. So I thought I'd offer it up here to try and save some money for listing fees before putting it on eBay. As of today I've had it for 1 week. Absolutely no scratches or damage and still has factory plastic cover on the screen. It's currently running modded RC30 v 1.31 with Carbon Glow theme. Comes with original box, instructions, 2 Gb micro SD card, and everything that came from the factory. My price is firm @ $400 USD SHIPPED. Will ship anywhere worldwide *except Africa*. I generally use USPS Priority Mail with insurance. I requested the SIM unlock code from T-Mo about 3 days ago so I expect that to show up any day now. Please reply via PM or email me at [email protected]. Thanks for looking.
*pics were taken several days ago prior to installing new theme*
Check my eBay feedback:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...boids&ftab=AllFeedback&sspagename=STRK:ME:UFS
You might want to lower your price. I bought one off CL almost new with a extra battery, case, box etc for $225. They seem to go for under $300 new.
I'm very well aware of what they're going for on craigslist. My ad is aimed more for those overseas that don't have such easy access to them.
**Mods feel free to lock this thread. I'd prefer private contact if any**
you can get it from ebay, worldwide shipping for less...
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEGALLY-UNLOCKE...3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:3|39:1|240:1307
Stop trying to cheat people and make a fair price.
A brand new Android Dev Phone 1 is only $399 new.
Regards,
Dave
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A brand new Android Dev Phone 1 is only $399 new.
Regards,
Dave
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Stop giving the guy hell on his price. Try to order an ADP1 and set the shipping to Germany and see what happens to the price - It goes over 750USD. Let the free market determine the price.
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Stop giving the guy hell on his price.
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Let the free market determine the price.
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Considering that the OP has firmly set his price, aren't those two statements contradictory? (Note, I don't really mind OP's choice of pricing, just pointing out this funny logical flaw.)
hummmm
i just got one.....black....1 week old unused unwanted upgrade for £230 of ebay here in the u.k
i wish you all the best with selling your G1
sorry i can't lock the thread...if i close the thread...it will drop of the radar...and nobody will see it
I'm not trying to "cheat" anyone. There's nothing dishonest or misleading about my ad. I know for a fact that with my willingness to ship worldwide I will easily get my asking price if I choose to put it on ebay. I simply thought I'd offer it up here first. Clearly, that was a poor decision on my part.
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sorry i can't lock the thread...if i close the thread...it will drop of the radar...and nobody will see it
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Considering the tone of some replies..that's exactly what I was hoping for. I'll simply take this as a lesson learned about this community and take my business elsewhere. Then there will be no need for further editorialization about my character or intentions.
Thank you to those of you with cooler heads that chose not to be a **** about it.
Honestly I think the problem is that you are asking full market value for something that is opened and without warranty.
Think about it, why would you buy a stereo from some guy off the street even if he was a friend of a friend, if you could get it for the same price from the company which not only guarantee's it but offers 30 day return policy and a manufactures warranty?
Honestly I have no problem with you selling it here, it isn't against the rules. But I think asking 400 for the phone is steep especially considering this is the market where we know what it is worth and how to find them.
I don't see what I'm doing as being any different than what people are doing with the Iphone 3g. You can get a brand new one with contract for $200 from AT&T. But if you've ever tried to buy one outside of AT&T you'd see that no one's willing to let an immaculate one go for less than $400 or so generally. Add on an unlock and jailbreak and that can take it up much higher still. Is it "cheating" to want to capitalize on supply and demand circumstances? An item is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If no one here thinks my phone is worth $400..that's fine with me. I know there are others that would gladly pay what I'm asking. Obviously, they just don't frequent this site.
I never said you were cheating I was explaining why I think they are pissed off.
Your iPhone vs G1 complaint is like Apples vs Oranges. They are in no way similar. The iPhone can not be bought unless it has a contract. Of course I would pay more for a non contracted phone, but the G1 is 400 with no contract. Wheter it is unlocked and jailbroken is irrelevant since the iPhone can't be software unlocked only jailbroken.
The only criticism I can give for me personally is that I thought you would have at least given xda members a discount. I mean what is 20-40 dollars gonna hurt?
I agree with you in that someone would pay 400 dollars... but I also believe that if you were really trying to help a developer get one you would be giving us a little discount from what you sell it on ebay. But that is just me.
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Its seems that the fine folks at phandroid have stumbled across this little nugget of info tucked neatly away in the fine print of the Samsung Vibrant's shop page.
†On approved credit. $82.50 down payment, plus 3 monthly payments of $82.50, required. 0% APR. Taxes & fees additional. Available only at T-Mobile-owned retail stores; see store for details.
phandroid.com/2010/06/30/samsung-vibrant-to-cost-330-off-contract-galaxy-s-fine-print/
If u do the math that equates to $330. I hope T-Mobile plays it smart and doesn't change the price before launch, because I definitely assumed the off contract price would be $450-$550
In any event, there also seems to be a "REAL" screen cap of the actual price tag on the page before TMO decided to remove it. Here's the link to that also...
androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s/112106-no-secret-vibrant-full-price-329-99-a.html#post1041189
DO RIGHT BY US LOYAL, DOWNTRODDEN CUSTOMERS TMO!!
ShawtyKING said:
Its seems that the fine folks at phandroid have stumbled across this little nugget of info tucked neatly away in the fine print of the Samsung Vibrant's shop page.
†On approved credit. $82.50 down payment, plus 3 monthly payments of $82.50, required. 0% APR. Taxes & fees additional. Available only at T-Mobile-owned retail stores; see store for details.
phandroid.com/2010/06/30/samsung-vibrant-to-cost-330-off-contract-galaxy-s-fine-print/
If u do the math that equates to $330. I hope T-Mobile plays it smart and doesn't change the price before launch, because I definitely assumed the off contract price would be $450-$550
In any event, there also seems to be a "REAL" screen cap of the actual price tag on the page before TMO decided to remove it. Here's the link to that also...
androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s/112106-no-secret-vibrant-full-price-329-99-a.html#post1041189
DO RIGHT BY US LOYAL, DOWNTRODDEN CUSTOMERS TMO!!
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Jesus Christ. Do you seriously think that the Nexus One retails for $529 but THIS phone - which is better in every.single.way is going to retail for $330?
That's quite literally one of the stupidest things I think i've read in a long, long time.
Personally, Im pretty sure the phone is going to cost $500+ because the on contract price vs. this supposed on contract price doesn't make sense and this also bucks the trend of previous costs associated with phones of this level.
However, it would be a nice (and courageous) move on TMO's part with this slightly, in comparison, paired down galaxy s model to move units.
Anyway, I thought I would share this sliver of hope with the TMO faithful lol.
This just reminds me of the entire "Project Dark" / EM+ debacle where some blogs reported errors/rumors as facts of an upcoming program. So when EM+ came out, the news wasn't that TMO cut their pricing, it was that they didn't live up to the hype that some bloggers posted about false pricing info.
Same damn thing now. People ARE going to be disappointed if they think that in any reality (normal or alternate) TMO is going to sell this phone for $330 without a contract to recoup the cost of the device.
also, this phone is a $750 phone unlocked:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...w?ie=UTF8&qid=1277908710&sr=8-1&condition=new
If you look at the T-mobile site now it says "125 down, with 3 monthly payments of 125" thus making the phone in the $500 range
as you said, that price has been pulled down, and curently at the bottom of the page is of the info screen (when you go to their web and shop for phones, and then for samsung phones) it shows:
"†On approved credit. $125 down payment, plus 3 monthly payments of $125, required. 0% APR. Taxes & fees additional. Available only at T-Mobile-owned retail stores; see store for details...."
others have reported off contract pricing at $439 / $439 and some at $499
we'll see this week
I was told by tmo to call on tuesday to find out the pricing of the phone
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I was told by tmo to call on tuesday to find out the pricing of the phone
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Im going to try that to find out how much it cost with the Equipment Installment Plan
Store rep told me that it'd be at the lowest, similar priced to the HD2 or about 479. She said it won't go any lower than that.
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Jesus Christ. Do you seriously think that the Nexus One retails for $529 but THIS phone - which is better in every.single.way is going to retail for $330?
That's quite literally one of the stupidest things I think i've read in a long, long time.
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The Vibrant is defiantly NOT better in every single way.
The Nexus one Has a Bluetooth car dock, No word about anything like that for the Galaxy S phones.
The Nexus One is made out of much much better materials, The vibrant feels cheap in the hand and the body looks cheap, the only thing on the Vibrant that looks better is the screen.
The Vibrant has no FLASH, How some one could make a High end Android phone without a flash is beyond me, but oh well.
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The Vibrant is defiantly NOT better in every single way.
The Nexus one Has a Bluetooth car dock, No word about anything like that for the Galaxy S phones.
The Nexus One is made out of much much better materials, The vibrant feels cheap in the hand and the body looks cheap, the only thing on the Vibrant that looks better is the screen.
The Vibrant has no FLASH, How some one could make a High end Android phone without a flash is beyond me, but oh well.
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looks like someones a little insecure
siberslug you mad?
Mad, No, I come off as mad ?
I'm just saying it's not better in every way, overall I think it's better in terms of hardware like the GPU, Screen and it's file sharing capabilities.
I would agree with him if the Vibrant was built from better material and had a flash, hell I would call it a Droid and EVO killer if it had a front facing camera in addition to the flash and better material but there is too much missing to call it that.
I just bought this to hold me over until project Emerald comes out in November
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looks like someones a little insecure
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LOL
You got me.
I like big Bad @$$ things to compensate for my short comings lol
A bit disappointed but no not insecure. I will still rub this phone into all the Iphone fanboys faces and be proud to do so !! even though I don't have a flash or front facing camera or an exquisite finish that I could roll around naked on
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ps-to-1199-99-but-it-costs-best-buy-just-550/
So this makes me think that the price will be significantly lower than $1200 or $800. If not at Best Buy, someone else who can deal with less than 40% margins will sell this thing in the $6-700 range.
F*** Best Buy and their either 45% or even more obscene 118% markups.
CNET fed Motorolas ego tremendously when they gave the Xoom best of CES award...
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CNET fed Motorolas ego tremendously when they gave the Xoom best of CES award...
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+1 Clearly it did...
They think they can place apple price point/margin(actually even more than apple!) without any track record to proove it... Its ridicules... They clearly want to gouge the first adopters, and a month later i can guarentee they will drop the price by 200$ (especially when ipad 2 is unveiled...)
Its a sad day that im considering and ipad 2 over xoom/other android 3.0 cause of PRICE.
$1,999 is a placeholder price.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/motorola-xoom-up-for-pre-order-at-best-buy-for-1-199/
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Update: We've heard rumblings that this is indeed just a place holder -- much like the way other companies price products they don't want to sell at ridiculous levels -- and the final price will indeed be the $800 we've heard most consistently to this point.
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Also, it isn't as if the Xoom will be the only quality Honeycomb device out there. If it cost too much for your taste, wait until cheaper 3.0 tablets arrive. Looking at the trend so far most Honeycomb tablets have almost the exact same specifications anyways.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ps-to-1199-99-but-it-costs-best-buy-just-550/
So this makes me think that the price will be significantly lower than $1200 or $800. If not at Best Buy, someone else who can deal with less than 40% margins will sell this thing in the $6-700 range.
F*** Best Buy and their either 45% or even more obscene 118% markups.
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That's crazy. When I worked at Best Buy a few years back, I found little (if any) markup on almost all laptops. Apparently they've decided that the Xoom is a different story.
I'd like to think that purchasing at a Verizon store will be a different story, but I'm sure there are all kinds of deals in place to keep prices uniform across the industry. It would probably be cheaper getting one shipped from Europe.
Oh well. I'm thinking the Galaxy 10.1 looks better than the Xoom anyway, so maybe I'll stick around to see how it turns out.
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That's crazy. When I worked at Best Buy a few years back, I found little (if any) markup on almost all laptops. Apparently they've decided that the Xoom is a different story.
I'd like to think that purchasing at a Verizon store will be a different story, but I'm sure there are all kinds of deals in place to keep prices uniform across the industry. It would probably be cheaper getting one shipped from Europe.
Oh well. I'm thinking the Galaxy 10.1 looks better than the Xoom anyway, so maybe I'll stick around to see how it turns out.
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The Galaxy 10.1 doesn't seem to come with a Sd card slot or even Hdmi port...yikes !
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The Galaxy 10.1 doesn't seem to come with a Sd card slot or even Hdmi port...yikes !
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I hear ya there, SD card slot is a must in my mind for a tablet.
Love the design of the Tab 10.1 though, the backing looks so ergonomic.
If the xoom is locked down to modding like most other motorola stuff, the sd card won't be that big of a draw.
The markup is nuts, hence why I think you may be able to talk bestbuy into doing it out the door for 800, with the mobile service (that you can cancel).
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Didn't motorola state the SD slot on the Xoom wont work until they patch it at a later date? or am i thinking of another CES tab?
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The Galaxy 10.1 doesn't seem to come with a Sd card slot or even Hdmi port...yikes !
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Oh... I didn't realize that. Lame. It's a shame, because the device has a nice look to it.
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That's crazy. When I worked at Best Buy a few years back, I found little (if any) markup on almost all laptops. Apparently they've decided that the Xoom is a different story.
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BB is probably trying to make some margin on the first few suckers (oops, customers). Expect a big price drop in a few months like the Galaxy tab.
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BB is probably trying to make some margin on the first few suckers (oops, customers). Expect a big price drop in a few months like the Galaxy tab.
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You do realize a tablet like this would be price controlled by Verizon correct? Verizon controls prices of phones, just like ATT, Sprint, and Apple do.
@Xevilious : little margin is still made on laptops
Yeah god forbid companies try and make a profit on the products they make or sell
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Yeah god forbid companies try and make a profit on the products they make or sell
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Sirchuk said:
If the xoom is locked down to modding like most other motorola stuff, the sd card won't be that big of a draw.
The markup is nuts, hence why I think you may be able to talk bestbuy into doing it out the door for 800, with the mobile service (that you can cancel).
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Since when did Best Buy negotiate prices on a product like this?
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Yeah god forbid companies try and make a profit on the products they make or sell
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I am all for companies making money. But I must say, knowing that the device cost BB 550$.. I am no longer okay with Verizon forcing me to buy unwanted 3g for a month cranking up the already high price an unnecessary, and frankly incredibly expensive 1GB of data.
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Since when did Best Buy negotiate prices on a product like this?
I am all for companies making money. But I must say, knowing that the device cost BB 550$.. I am no longer okay with Verizon forcing me to buy unwanted 3g for a month cranking up the already high price an unnecessary, and frankly incredibly expensive 1GB of data.
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well you have to take into consideration that BB is probably not going to make a killing on this product. If they were confident that they would sell a lot of Xooms, the price would be less. They would be able to make up for it in volume.
I agree about the mandatory Verizon data but from my understanding you have three days to cancel it and get your money back for that. I myself am going to keep the months worth of data...I've always been with AT&T and am curious about Verizon's service in my area.
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Since when did Best Buy negotiate prices on a product like this?
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You might be surprised what they will do if there is still profit to be made. You can negotiate on just about all big ticket items, especially at the end of the quarter when they want to increase revenue numbers. Never hurts to ask for something like 5 or 10 percent off. Worked for me on a digital camera I wanted and a stove. They took another $200 off my stove, even beat the internet prices I found.
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well you have to take into consideration that BB is probably not going to make a killing on this product. If they were confident that they would sell a lot of Xooms, the price would be less. They would be able to make up for it in volume.
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As I said earlier pricing is controlled by Verizon
And that employee cost that you see, is not always the price that Best Buy pays for an item. Tablets that require internet activation are in an entire different realm of pricing structures (especially since this is a Verizon tablet).
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You might be surprised what they will do if there is still profit to be made. You can negotiate on just about all big ticket items, especially at the end of the quarter when they want to increase revenue numbers. Never hurts to ask for something like 5 or 10 percent off. Worked for me on a digital camera I wanted and a stove. They took another $200 off my stove, even beat the internet prices I found.
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Only way money is coming off the xoom is price matching verizon, which is going to be selling it at the same price
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As I said earlier pricing is controlled by Verizon
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trust me, BB gives it's opinion to Verizon on what it wants to sell any given item for in their store and Verizon takes that opinion into account when pricing. BB doesn't have to carry any given device.... and Verizon or any other carrier has to work with them on price(as well as many other aspects) if Verizon wants that device in store. You can be sure Verizon's pricing would be different if they anticipated BB would sell tons more of them than they will currently.
All I am saying is this: if this tab was going to sell like the iPad, the price would be less. Verizon nor BB have the luxury of making their profit thru volume with this device.
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trust me, BB gives it's opinion to Verizon on what it wants to sell any given item for in their store and Verizon takes that opinion into account when pricing. BB doesn't have to carry any given device.... and Verizon or any other carrier has to work with them on price(as well as many other aspects) if Verizon wants that device in store. You can be sure Verizon's pricing would be different if they anticipated BB would sell tons more of them than they will currently.
All I am saying is this: if this tab was going to sell like the iPad, the price would be less. Verizon nor BB have the luxury of making their profit thru volume with this device.
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I know Best buy gives its opinion, but at the end of the day, its out of my hand. There are certain things like I said, that are price controlled regardless of how much Best Buy buys the item from. I'm sure Verizon also wants best buy to sell tons of xooms. During this past holiday I saw more people sold on buying tablets than laptops, sure the initial price is high, relative to what you get, but I'm sure it will come down.
And for what its worth, even though people here are complaining about the high price, this device will be extremely popular.
That being said if I see anything more in best buys system I'll try and post/make note of it
There are a few reasons that the Xoom 3G/4G is in trouble.
1. Sam's Club is rumored to be selling the price of the wi-fi only for $539
2. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 is thinking of cutting its price when it debut (it may or may not have a better display than the Xoom)
So who would be willing to put out $800 to buy it now...even if you know about the $100 off promo code from Motorola.
id like to point out that some people WANT the data connection. they don't just want wifi.
secondly, its all about the instant gratification.
Because Motorola wouldnt drop the price when it actually releases the wifi-only version right?
Seriously guys, Motorola got it's flagship Xoom to market as quickly as it could with the price it wanted to sell to early adopters at. They aren't going to drop MSRP just because of competitor announcements, internet rumors, internet forum crybabies, or fuzzy pictures of fake displays in a random Sam's Club location.
No offense but I am a little tired of forum thread after forum thread about this. Most phones off contract now a days cost between 550-600 dollars. So why the hell wouldn't a tablet with 3G, WiFi, and a free upgrade to 4G be anything less than what it cost. If you don't want to pay 800 off contract then luckily you have options. 599 on contract which I woldnt do but that's just me, or wait for the price to come down or the WiFi one to come out. I cannot believe how many people are *****ing about the price. It is the worlds first Android 3.0 tablet and for as far back as I can remember you pay a heftyprice if you want to be an early adopter. I bought the 800 Xoom and I am happy with my purchse especially when I will get LTE on it. I see know need it buying a gimped tablet with only WiFi as I need my mobile devices to be well mobile.
All this *****ing over 150-200 dollars is rediculous. All I hear about the Xoom is the price and the endless comparison to the lowest priced Ipad. They are not even in the same ballpark. If you spend 499 you get a wifi only, 16 gb, 512 ram, not as good cameras front and back and most of all it is apple and their walled garden. Why do people keep comparing these? You need to compae with at least similarly speced items like the 32 gb with 3G.
If people don't want to buy the 800 Xoom, then so be it but lets stop *****ing about it it gets us no where. It is worth everypennyof 800 for what you get ans it is only going to get better and lower priced as more tablets hit the market. Either way the Xoom will catch on and no it isn't in trouble because of the ipad and samsung rethnking the pricing if you read the entire article you would see that they had planned to charge more than the galaxy tab which would of more than likely been 800 or more as I believe the galaxy tab was 699 at launch. No one is forcing youto buy a Xoom so stop with the price comparisons ans if you want one then for gods sake stop *****ing about 150-200 more when you are already dropping 599 for the thing. Look at what you get for that extra 200. More ram, more internal space, expandable memory (when. It launches), 3G upgradeable to 4G, a btter screen, android 3.0, a better camera front and back, better hardware (in my opinion), the wonderful devs here on xda will have this thing do everything thanks to be unlockable (thanks moto), and best of all we aren't stuck dealing with apple. On another note it still has better specs than any tablet that is going to launch that has been announced. So please stop whining.
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No offense but I am a little tired of forum thread after forum thread about this. Most phones off contract now a days cost between 550-600 dollars. So why the hell wouldn't a tablet with 3G, WiFi, and a free upgrade to 4G be anything less than what it cost. If you don't want to pay 800 off contract then luckily you have options. 599 on contract which I woldnt do but that's just me, or wait for the price to come down or the WiFi one to come out. I cannot believe how many people are *****ing about the price. It is the worlds first Android 3.0 tablet and for as far back as I can remember you pay a heftyprice if you want to be an early adopter. I bought the 800 Xoom and I am happy with my purchse especially when I will get LTE on it. I see know need it buying a gimped tablet with only WiFi as I need my mobile devices to be well mobile.
All this *****ing over 150-200 dollars is rediculous. All I hear about the Xoom is the price and the endless comparison to the lowest priced Ipad. They are not even in the same ballpark. If you spend 499 you get a wifi only, 16 gb, 512 ram, not as good cameras front and back and most of all it is apple and their walled garden. Why do people keep comparing these? You need to compae with at least similarly speced items like the 32 gb with 3G.
If people don't want to buy the 800 Xoom, then so be it but lets stop *****ing about it it gets us no where. It is worth everypennyof 800 for what you get ans it is only going to get better and lower priced as more tablets hit the market. Either way the Xoom will catch on and no it isn't in trouble because of the ipad and samsung rethnking the pricing if you read the entire article you would see that they had planned to charge more than the galaxy tab which would of more than likely been 800 or more as I believe the galaxy tab was 699 at launch. No one is forcing youto buy a Xoom so stop with the price comparisons ans if you want one then for gods sake stop *****ing about 150-200 more when you are already dropping 599 for the thing. Look at what you get for that extra 200. More ram, more internal space, expandable memory (when. It launches), 3G upgradeable to 4G, a btter screen, android 3.0, a better camera front and back, better hardware (in my opinion), the wonderful devs here on xda will have this thing do everything thanks to be unlockable (thanks moto), and best of all we aren't stuck dealing with apple. On another note it still has better specs than any tablet that is going to launch that has been announced. So please stop whining.
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This was awesome.
angermeans said:
No offense but I am a little tired of forum thread after forum thread about this. Most phones off contract now a days cost between 550-600 dollars. So why the hell wouldn't a tablet with 3G, WiFi, and a free upgrade to 4G be anything less than what it cost. If you don't want to pay 800 off contract then luckily you have options. 599 on contract which I woldnt do but that's just me, or wait for the price to come down or the WiFi one to come out. I cannot believe how many people are *****ing about the price. It is the worlds first Android 3.0 tablet and for as far back as I can remember you pay a heftyprice if you want to be an early adopter. I bought the 800 Xoom and I am happy with my purchse especially when I will get LTE on it. I see know need it buying a gimped tablet with only WiFi as I need my mobile devices to be well mobile.
All this *****ing over 150-200 dollars is rediculous. All I hear about the Xoom is the price and the endless comparison to the lowest priced Ipad. They are not even in the same ballpark. If you spend 499 you get a wifi only, 16 gb, 512 ram, not as good cameras front and back and most of all it is apple and their walled garden. Why do people keep comparing these? You need to compae with at least similarly speced items like the 32 gb with 3G.
If people don't want to buy the 800 Xoom, then so be it but lets stop *****ing about it it gets us no where. It is worth everypennyof 800 for what you get ans it is only going to get better and lower priced as more tablets hit the market. Either way the Xoom will catch on and no it isn't in trouble because of the ipad and samsung rethnking the pricing if you read the entire article you would see that they had planned to charge more than the galaxy tab which would of more than likely been 800 or more as I believe the galaxy tab was 699 at launch. No one is forcing youto buy a Xoom so stop with the price comparisons ans if you want one then for gods sake stop *****ing about 150-200 more when you are already dropping 599 for the thing. Look at what you get for that extra 200. More ram, more internal space, expandable memory (when. It launches), 3G upgradeable to 4G, a btter screen, android 3.0, a better camera front and back, better hardware (in my opinion), the wonderful devs here on xda will have this thing do everything thanks to be unlockable (thanks moto), and best of all we aren't stuck dealing with apple. On another note it still has better specs than any tablet that is going to launch that has been announced. So please stop whining.
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Wow do I agree with you so much. $800 is justified. Motorola only has one price point which competes with Apple's equivalent. I wish people would stop complaining about the price.
Amen, brother.
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It's mainly about options bro, with the xoom there's only one; very expensive one.
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calin75 said:
It's mainly about options bro, with the xoom there's only one; very expensive one.
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There are several options "bro", the problem is that too many here choose the one involving complaining incessantly on the internet.
calin75 said:
It's mainly about options bro, with the xoom there's only one; very expensive one.
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This is where I think everyone has the wrong mentality.
With the iPad and iPad2 ONLY APPLE manufactures and sells this product. The options are limited by them.
With ANY android tablet the options are not just "1 xoom". The options are:
Archos 101 Internet Tablet
Motorola Xoom
Galaxy Tab
etc..
the list goes on... so you see... you are NOT stuck with one option unless you continue to limit yourself to one manufacturer.
iOS: Only 1 device can run it
Android: Completely open - anyone is welcome to make a device for it.
It means more competition, more product diversity and more choices for us.
It may be true that $800 is comparable to the high end ipad. However, we are talking about the general population and take into account their spending potential. Not everyone has the money to spend $800 on a tablet.
So if they see a bargain, they will go to it. Again, we are talking about the general population as a whole. Not someone who can easily afford the $800 tablet and can take the time to rationale the justifiable price point.
Just take a look at the ipad versions. Which of the 6 versions do you think sell the most?
Dawg, the only option we have right now with the xoom is whether to buy it full price or get $200 off and get raped by Verizon for 2 years. Why is Apple releasing all models at and carriers at the same time? the xoom is the first HC tablet in the market and not to offer a WiFi model from the beginning is nothing more than pure blasphemy.
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Why would Motorola undercut it's own flagship product's sales by releasing a cheaper limited version when it doesnt have to? Why squander the lead the Xoom has on Samsung, HTC, RIM, HP, etc?
Something tells me the VZW-Motorola Xoom contract has a part to play in this as well. It's squarely in VZW's interest to have exclusivity on the only android 3.0 tablet on the market for as long as possible, a wifi-only version cuts into their market saturation directly.
angermeans said:
Most phones off contract now a days cost between 550-600 dollars. So why the hell wouldn't a tablet with 3G, WiFi, and a free upgrade to 4G be anything less than what it cost.
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so you're really ok with a phone being $550-$600?? what the pricing tells me is that the phones are far overpriced.
mazz0310 said:
Wow do I agree with you so much. $800 is justified. Motorola only has one price point which competes with Apple's equivalent. I wish people would stop complaining about the price.
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By the time I left the Verizon store the day after launch I was out over $1,000. For the Xoom, the gel case, charging stand, keyboard, etc... The Xoom has barely left my side in the last week and is in constant use (just like my gtab and q1 ultra before it). Since I use it for work, I will easily extract $200 of value from it every month this year. The Xoom is awesome and will only get better. Great value in my opinion.
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It may be true that $800 is comparable to the high end ipad. However, we are talking about the general population and take into account their spending potential. Not everyone has the money to spend $800 on a tablet.
So if they see a bargain, they will go to it. Again, we are talking about the general population as a whole. Not someone who can easily afford the $800 tablet and can take the time to rationale the justifiable price point.
Just take a look at the ipad versions. Which of the 6 versions do you think sell the most?
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Your right in a way but we are not talking about the "general public" here. We are talking about the hundreds of posts like this one that complain incently that the Xoom is overpriced as all they look at is the 499 ipad that is inferior to the Xoom in every way. Who cares if the Xoom won't sell as many as the ipad it is targeted to an audience that wants something different. All it needs to do is compete not sell 15 million like the ipad. I am talking about people that write posts like this and just ***** about the price. They'll pay 500 no problem but will ***** and moan about 150-200 more dollars even tho they are getting many many many more features. If you don't want the Xoom than get the Ipad we don't need assumptions like the OP made saying that the Xoom will fail because they failed to meet a certain price point. Not to mention that the Xoom is the first and o can guarentee that we will see a price drop and a wifi only version but they dont want to wait for that they want to ***** and bring up the ipad.
By the way this is in no way targete at you as I partly agree with your posts I am just sick of these posts " the Xoom will fail as it is not as cheap as the. Wifi only 16gb Ipad. They are in no way the same product so lets move on. This is a site of early adopters that pay good hard earned money and get the most out of their products. We are in every way the opposite of what apple and its iphone and ipad stand for so why are we *****ing about wanting that price point. We are the same people that gladly dropped 529 for the google nexus one without even using the product and was happy to do so and most have probably had multiple phones over this past year. Lets all grow up and get over what motorola and verizon feel this Xoom is worth. Get it or don't but shut up in the process.
You guys are silly. What reason could you have for defending the high price other than feeling dumb for spending too much or having moto sign your paycheck.
I bought a xoom too. At least I know it was too much.
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I totally agree with you great investment in my opinion
madsquabbles said:
so you're really ok with a phone being $550-$600?? what the pricing tells me is that the phones are far overpriced.
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I agree they def are but the more features we get the more these phones will cost. You cant tell me you didn't know that is what they cost and I don't see anyone saying "but apple is cheaper" because they are 650 and 750 off contract for their iPhones. The point is phones are overpriced but you can see why tablets cost this much when compared to phones.
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Your right in a way but we are not talking about the "general public" here. We are talking about the hundreds of posts like this one that complain incently that the Xoom is overpriced as all they look at is the 499 ipad that is inferior to the Xoom in every way. Who cares if the Xoom won't sell as many as the ipad it is targeted to an audience that wants something different. All it needs to do is compete not sell 15 million like the ipad. I am talking about people that write posts like this and just ***** about the price. They'll pay 500 no problem but will ***** and moan about 150-200 more dollars even tho they are getting many many many more features. If you don't want the Xoom than get the Ipad we don't need assumptions like the OP made saying that the Xoom will fail because they failed to meet a certain price point. Not to mention that the Xoom is the first and o can guarentee that we will see a price drop and a wifi only version but they dont want to wait for that they want to ***** and bring up the ipad.
By the way this is in no way targete at you as I partly agree with your posts I am just sick of these posts " the Xoom will fail as it is not as cheap as the. Wifi only 16gb Ipad. They are in no way the same product so lets move on. This is a site of early adopters that pay good hard earned money and get the most out of their products. We are in every way the opposite of what apple and its iphone and ipad stand for so why are we *****ing about wanting that price point. We are the same people that gladly dropped 529 for the google nexus one without even using the product and was happy to do so and most have probably had multiple phones over this past year. Lets all grow up and get over what motorola and verizon feel this Xoom is worth. Get it or don't but shut up in the process.
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First, from the title, it does not that the Xoom 3G/4G "will fail." It says that it is in trouble....meaning that it will not sale as many as it had anticipated. If the rumor of the Sam's price and the possible lowered price of the Samsung tab did not exist, then the number of the 3G/4G would probably be bigger.
Also, I did not whine about the $800 being expensive on its own. It is being expensive "relative" to the alternatives. Do you think that if the Sam's club rumor was true of being $539....do you think that just having 3G/4G itself is worth $800-$539 = $261? Do you think that the 10.1 Samsung tab with almost identical specs with its lower price point (if true) would not sway others from getting the Samsung instead?
Of course you could argue that you pay a higher price for being an early adopter...which I agree is true. However, some would have the patience to wait it out. But the bottom line is that the 3G/4G is now "in trouble" because it would change some consumers' mind and would affect its sale number.
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/17/tra...and-get-credit-towards-a-new-one-at-t-mobile/
I will be looking at this program when i turn in my vibrant for a sg2 or i may trade it or sell it on craigslist but the program does seem very cool. check out the details above. The reason for this program they say is that the lifespan for most phones isnt very long and this will help with the big bill of the new high end smart phones.
WHAT DO U THINK?
I'd rather sell my phones than give them to carriers. You won't get the same money you would from a sale when you trade in.
It's like selling a used car. You'll get more in a private sale, but giving it to the dealer is easier. I'll stick to craigslist.
yea like he said ^^
its like giving your car to a dealer. its worth $5,000 but he's going to give you $2,000 for it for a trade, so that he can resell it for $6,000 and make a profit.
Same goes here. Say a vibrant is worth $350 in goood condition on ebay.
butttt doubt they'd give you more than say 125 to 150. they do it for profit, and to bring ppl from other service providers.
never the less, theres always ppl out there that will be more than willing to trade it because they dont know any better. haha. Dont get me wrong, it is a good idea for not only T-Mobile, but for those ppl out there that just want a new phone and dont care for their old one or what happens with it once they get a new one. Or even ppl who are coming from other providers and just dont want their old phone.
personally, I keep all my phones. In case of an emergency, or just to have it to play with. If i get the SGSII, I'm totally keeping my Vibrant to keep playing with it, give it to my gf, or just sell it for a good price on ebay.
They estimated $110 for my mint Vibrant on the website. Better off with craigs
For what it's worth, I just recently bought a used Vibrant on craigslist for $150 and it is immaculate. It seems like an OK idea for simplicity, but I personally wouldn't do it for the same reason I won't sell my car to CarMax.
There going after the consumer that either doesn't care or is lazy. $110 for a mint Vibrant is definately low IMO and I'm thinking you would get more on EBay or CL.
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$110 for our beloved Vibrants! That's outrageous!
anilo said:
$110 for our beloved Vibrants! That's outrageous!
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I agree I think that is low, but I think theybwould offer more for non T-Mo smartphones because they be would be getting a new customer, where they are just keeping you if they give you $110, thus no real new income or new customer. Someone should check to see what they offer for a Fascinate or Captivate, and see if they offer more for them.
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Well the other thing is they offer a max of 300 which according to the masses who don't know how great a phone these are technically they have released several phones that were expected to compete or be greater than the vibrant since last year, even though quality and hardware is not really improved try a newer phone a couple months old, might get better amount. But i agree the vibrant is awesome and worth much more than that
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What do they do with the phones? I've never seen them sell used phones. Sell them online as refurbished?
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Mannymal said:
What do they do with the phones? I've never seen them sell used phones. Sell them online as refurbished?
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T-Mobile wont sell them, they are using a third party to do this, who will clean them up and either sell them to someone like Assurion or the carriers where the phones originally came from.
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caffeinated chris said:
yea like he said ^^
its like giving your car to a dealer. its worth $5,000 but he's going to give you $2,000 for it for a trade, so that he can resell it for $6,000 and make a profit.
Same goes here. Say a vibrant is worth $350 in goood condition on ebay.
butttt doubt they'd give you more than say 125 to 150. they do it for profit, and to bring ppl from other service providers.
never the less, theres always ppl out there that will be more than willing to trade it because they dont know any better. haha. Dont get me wrong, it is a good idea for not only T-Mobile, but for those ppl out there that just want a new phone and dont care for their old one or what happens with it once they get a new one. Or even ppl who are coming from other providers and just dont want their old phone.
personally, I keep all my phones. In case of an emergency, or just to have it to play with. If i get the SGSII, I'm totally keeping my Vibrant to keep playing with it, give it to my gf, or just sell it for a good price on ebay.
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Get the Facts Presently Gazelle is offering $157.00 for the phone if it is in perfect shape and about 20.00 less for one less than perfect. That means if Tmobile is offering 120-130 for immediate trade-in or you can wait 15 days and get 15-20 bucks more for your phone.......... or try to sell online @ Ebay or Craigslist
Those are the facts as of today....... It is an ok deal like all phone carriers their deal are not bad..rarely great..... just OK
I asked a T-mobile employee at the Mall Of America and at a T-Mobile store downtown Minneapolis and they both said they'd only give me 80$ towards a different phone.
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I asked a T-mobile employee at the Mall Of America and at a T-Mobile store downtown Minneapolis and they both said they'd only give me 80$ towards a different phone.
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That's BS! I want to know how much will a carrier pay for an IPhone.
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