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Hi Everyone,
I just laid my hands on the new Galaxy S. I was thinking before porting all my data into it, I will be upgrading it to the Froyo then transfer all the data. I read through the forums/guides, i found there are two ways of doing it. One is Odin and the other is Kies. Since this is my first step into the Android world, i would like to know which one is better and the preferred method of upgrading the phone's OS.
I have same ques. too.. And which is best rom for my sgs..
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Depends on what you want to do with your phone and what risks you are prepared to take. There is always a risk flashing your phone will 'brick' it i.e. make it unusable. If you flashed via Kies as this is official Samsung you're covered for a replacement phone by the warranty.
Odin is an unofficial program supporting unofficial upgrades, i.e. brick you're phone with this and if you don't know what you're doing you're stuffed. People at Xda are helpful but it can mean the death of you're phone.
Advantages - you choose the ROM / software you want. No bloat-ware from carrier. Generally cooked ROM's have sorted the 'lag' problem which slows most versions of the Galaxy S (even on Froyo 2.2). They are generally upgraded faster too but don't seem as common for Galaxy S as for HTC phones (someone please feel free to contradict me). ROM Manager app from the market should be able to download Cyanogen mod (supposed to one of the best) when it's finished for the Galaxy S.
I couldn't get Odin to work on Win7 64bit so I went for the official 2.2 update via Kies then used a 'lagfix' downloaded via the market (which also invalidates your warranty...). RyanZA (OCLF on market) worked for me really well on Android 2.1 but haven't tried version 2 with Froyo 2.2. I used a Voodoo oneclick lagfix but there's something going on between the developers and it was removed from the market. You may still be able to get the apk app file to install from SD card if you Google it but I can't find it. I used this and it worked really well.
Anyway, if you know this already my apologies. There's lots of other's here who know much more than I do but thought I'd share my limited experience so far.
I am guessing that the the Kies (I haven't installed it yet), needs a steady internet connection.
The Odin wont need it, since i am already downloading all the data to my PC.
If this is correct... i think i should try out the Odin, as my internet connection is too unreliable and gets disconnected every so often.
Also,
1. How would the Samsung people know that I have used Odin or Kies?
2. If I have installed Lagfix and i uninstall lagfix before taking it to Customer Service would they be able to find out?
Pretty newbie questions, but i hope you will clarify!
hell_storm2004 said:
I am guessing that the the Kies (I haven't installed it yet), needs a steady internet connection.
The Odin wont need it, since i am already downloading all the data to my PC.
If this is correct... i think i should try out the Odin, as my internet connection is too unreliable and gets disconnected every so often.
Also,
1. How would the Samsung people know that I have used Odin or Kies?
2. If I have installed Lagfix and i uninstall lagfix before taking it to Customer Service would they be able to find out?
Pretty newbie questions, but i hope you will clarify!
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First Kies completes the download before flashing your phone the same as Odin and your phone stores a record of the latest ROM / Kernal installed on it. It's under 'Settings' - 'About Phone'... See Firmware, Baseband and Kernal and Build Number.
Some lagfixes do have uninstalls so should be OK if uninstall works.
Ok. I'll go for Froyo with Kies. When Gingerbread becomes official then i'll take on Odin.
I'll have to look into lagfix. I have no clue which one's come with uninstall and which one's don't!
Personally I prefer Odin over Kies. Kies has bricked my phone twice and I have had issues getting Kies to recognise my phone. Before you decide to upgrade with either method make sure your 3 button combo works, if not then you really need to get this working as its your saving grace should something go wrong during or after a flash!
hell_storm2004 said:
Ok. I'll go for Froyo with Kies. When Gingerbread becomes official then i'll take on Odin.
I'll have to look into lagfix. I have no clue which one's come with uninstall and which one's don't!
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Always disable or uninstall a lagfix prior to upgrading.
sean2476 said:
3 button combo
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What is that???
3 button combo puts your phone into download and/or recovery mode. Vol up/ down Home key followed by power button [holding all 3 at once] Vol up for recovery mode. Vol down for download mode. If this doesn't work then forget flashing until you get it working.
imho Heimdall is the way to go. I wouldn't even install Kies.
Now that is new!
I only knew of two. Now in comes Hiemdall? This is confusing. Now I am from India. I have to check what my Operator is giving me! I may have to do Odin out of force rather than choice.
You may also need to ' root' your phone too before you can apply any of these changes as otherwise the phone is locked down. Look for an app called z4root on xda. It opens up your phone to these other apps (there are other ways of rooting but they can be quite involved for someone new to Android).
If you want to use Odin or Heimdal, & dont want to install Kies, check my signature for Samsung Drivers.
Install them & connect your phone to PC via USB & check if its recognized.
A forewarning & a suggestion.
Kies is known to F**k up phones into unusable state. & so is Odin. Heimdal is pretty geeky for most people.
If you endup with a bricked phone, you can always act stupid & convince the service centre guys that Kies was the culprit. I have Bricked 2 of my friend's phones & have gotten them a brand new replacement from Samsung.
hell_storm2004 said:
Now that is new!
I only knew of two. Now in comes Hiemdall? This is confusing. Now I am from India. I have to check what my Operator is giving me! I may have to do Odin out of force rather than choice.
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Before you attempt anything switch off your phone completely, hold Vol up + Menu + Power buttons in that order. when the phone shows the samsung splash screen, release the power button for a second while still holding the other two. Again press it back & hold all three till it lands you in the recovery mode.
If your phone can do this, you can take any risk.
Also PM rahulrulz & kalpik, they seem friendly & helpful & knowledgable.
Ok fellas! Its game on now... First let me read through everything. I think I have to read through Hidemall now as well. I like geeky stuff. Its just that this is something completely new for me! About the other people you mentioned, I don't know them! Since at least we are formally acquainted... I would PM you!!
Okay, so I have rooted my Droid eris several times and have downloaded and installed kaosfroyo, vanilla, and plain Jane. I have reverted back to the "stock" Rom with this program on the computer. I have clockwork mod on this because i have seen this name in the text while it installed. So now I think I'm on the stock but I'm not fully sure. I want to unroot this phone completely and make it back to how it was when you would open up a brand new box. Then i was to go through and install the, in your opinion, the best rom out there. Now for the probem, when I go to install a new Rom, I turn off the phone completely, hold down volume down and end buttons, then when the menu comes up I push up on the volume button and i get the picture of an Eris with a red triangle and an exclamation point. That disables me from doing anything. It does the same thing when I turn the phone off and hold volume up with the end button. To fix it, I just turn off the phone and let it boot up normal. Is there any fix for this? Please keep in mind that i am a super dummy when it comes to this stuff so I don't fully understand the technical terms and would appreciate explanations.
Thank you so much for your time and help.
Time To Shine said:
Okay, so I have rooted my Droid eris several times and have downloaded and installed kaosfroyo, vanilla, and plain Jane. I have reverted back to the "stock" Rom with this program on the computer. I have clockwork mod on this because i have seen this name in the text while it installed. So now I think I'm on the stock but I'm not fully sure. I want to unroot this phone completely and make it back to how it was when you would open up a brand new box. Then i was to go through and install the, in your opinion, the best rom out there. Now for the probem, when I go to install a new Rom, I turn off the phone completely, hold down volume down and end buttons, then when the menu comes up I push up on the volume button and i get the picture of an Eris with a red triangle and an exclamation point. That disables me from doing anything. It does the same thing when I turn the phone off and hold volume up with the end button. To fix it, I just turn off the phone and let it boot up normal. Is there any fix for this? Please keep in mind that i am a super dummy when it comes to this stuff so I don't fully understand the technical terms and would appreciate explanations.
Thank you so much for your time and help.
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By program on the computer do you mean you ran the ruu from verizon to put the stock software back on the phone? If that's the case I beleive you have probably unrooted the phone and will need to re root. I may be wrong but I think the ruu also flashes the original recovery which is why your not able to boot into it.
Conap said:
By program on the computer do you mean you ran the ruu from verizon to put the stock software back on the phone? If that's the case I beleive you have probably unrooted the phone and will need to re root. I may be wrong but I think the ruu also flashes the original recovery which is why your not able to boot into it.
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I would assume that's what it was. I know it is rooted now because i went through this process to root it after i ran tht program. I don't remember what one it was specifically however i know it had a progress bar on the top right while it installed and had the screen of holding down volume and end button to turn on the phone.
if you are rooted then under your program list you should have superuser permissions icon .. if you dont then you may still be rooted but not likely .. if you do not see that, you can simply go to the market and download a program for root users only and if it doesnt work on your phone then you know you are not rooted .. happy hunting
duccicucci said:
if you are rooted then under your program list you should have superuser permissions icon .. if you dont then you may still be rooted but not likely .. if you do not see that, you can simply go to the market and download a program for root users only and if it doesnt work on your phone then you know you are not rooted .. happy hunting
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Even if you re rooted afterwards you may need to reinstall recovery...i reccomend you use amons recovery. You can find directions in one of the how-to root threads around here.
problm solved
Ive been reading different posts and i keep hearin people say ODIN back to stock... can somone please explain this in newie terms? and can i do this after root to get my phone exactly how it was when i bought it??
if so i've deleted some stock apps and was wondering if those will be back....
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Yes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963652
It literally runs itself after you get your phone into download mode (turn it on while holding 1 on the keyboard) and it does return you phone to the way it was out of the box.
there is a thread in development by Whosdaman to get ODIN . It will flash your phone back to stock exactly how you got it...everything will start from scratch. You will have to download the DI18 files in the thread and drivers etc. It will bring back everything from out of the box Epic...
Edit: i was too late ^^^
hmmm, ok... someone posted a link with steps that seem way wayyyyy more complexed then turing the phone on and holding "1".... an i do it either way? or is one more proper than the other...
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Nixo - thanks... u actually kinda answered my last post =D
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I can surely tell you, you need to search and read up, as there are plenty of posts on this topic. This also tells me I really need to keep working on my "Welcome to Hacking Samsung Phones - What you need to know" Thread.
Basically ODIN is what users can utilize to return their epics to stock. ODIN is a program that you run on your computer that communicates with your phone and returns everything back to a stock factory version of android.
In order to use it on your phone you need to put your phone into "Download Mode". Instead of the traditional "three finger salute" that you would use to boot into recovery, you slide open your phone and press the number "1" key and then while holding it down, press the power button. The screen will boot up with yellow text and a yield sign that declares it is in "Download Mode" You then run ODIN on your desktop. Once ODIN opens up you plug the usb cable into your phone. Assuming you have the correct drivers installed, you will see a COM response on the ODIN application. From that point you can load .tar files into ODIN, click "start", and ODIN wipes your phone and returns it to stock fresh out of the package. Because our phones have this option it makes it very difficult to brick the EPIC.
Hope this helps.
nellison1470 said:
Ive been reading different posts and i keep hearin people say ODIN back to stock... can somone please explain this in newie terms? and can i do this after root to get my phone exactly how it was when i bought it.
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The only reason to odin to stock (DI18) is if you plan on getting an OTA or use the update.zip method. If your going to utilize odin, then save yourself the hassle and just odin directly to EB13 from wherever you happen to be. ODIN is a factory production tool to flash a bunch of phones all at one time, but it works just as well on one phone.
watermoore - THANKS!!!!! i have better understanding now of what the heck the hype about Odin is. you explained it perfect and used terms i would undersand since im a newbie...
i really appreciate everyone's help
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nellison, alternatively you can just use the Windows installer version provided by Samsung, which is basically a prepackaged Odin & EB13 update all in one. I haven't used it, but it seems to be very noob-proof from what I've read: http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...22061912233/Epic4G_FroyoUpgrade_EB13_Tool.exe CAUTION!!! Be advised, this will wipe your phone (but leave the contents of your SD card intact), so you'll have a clean, factory-fresh installation of EB13 / Froyo.
If you're looking to do an "upgrade" and keep all your settings, apps, etc., then look for a guide on applying the update.zip, which I conveniently have here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11546546&postcount=15
Good luck!
HOW TO UN-BRICK YOUR FASCINATE NOW THAT YOU HAVE BRICKED IT
SINCE IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION SOME POEPLE ARE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT PHONE THIS IS FOR, I WILL MAKE IT AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE
THIS IS FOR THE VERIZON FASCINATE
So you think you bricked your phone? The first thing you need to do is CALM DOWN, NO NEED TO PANIC , the odds are great that following this guide will fix your mistakes and recover your phone.
Sorry Fascinate owners, but I can no longer support this thread. As state below I test everything I post to make sure it works as advertised. I no longer have a fascinate so i can not test anything new. Sorry but the links to some of the files are gone I don't have them anymore so I suggest you look through the comments someone will have someplace to get what you need. Your recovery methods may have changed but this can still be used to recover your device. If you are looking for anything new look at nitsuj17's roll up post here, he maintains it very well so you should be able to find whatever else you need there.
I HAVE PURPOSELY BRICKED MY PHONE BY DOING THE THINGS YOU ARE TOLD NOT TO JUST TO TEST THE CAPABILITIES OF THESE RECOVERY PROGRAMS. UNLESS YOU CAN AFFORD TO HAVE YOUR PHONE REPLACED BY INSURANCE, TRUST THAT I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
SECTION 1: ODIN
SECTION 2: HEIMDALL
SECTION 3: ROOTING METHODS
Since there seems to be an abundance of posts in the Q&A and General Forums asking for help fixing, unbricking, their Fascinates, I decided to try to make a one stop walk through for odin and heimdall with links. Most of us "flash addicts", Developers, and testers have found the Samsung Galaxy Phones are nearly impossible to truly brick without causing physical damage to your phone, in almost all cases it is possible to get it working again.This is nothing more than how to get back a working STOCK phone, nothing custom here that's in the Development section. The first section will cover odin, the second heimdall, the third recovery and rooting.
USUAL WARNING: Everything here is done at your own risk. None of us on the XDA Developers site are responsible in any way, after all we didn't brick it you did. Doing any of this is your decision, I am just providing a collection of information. All credit for everything here belongs to others, who worked hard to give you a way to fix your mistakes, and it usually is the owner of the device trying something without learning how first, or not following directions that got you here in the first place.
My Phone wont boot at all, is stuck at logo, or I cant do anything with it is it a paperweight?
Most likely, no, so lets get to fixing it. All download links necessary for each process will be posted in this walk through and have been tested to make sure they work.
SECTION 1: ODIN
Everything except for the pit file in odin MUST be done in the PDA slot, if not it will not work requiring you to odin again, or possibly have to use heimdall (covered later in this thread) to fix that. After you download odin, I use v1.83 but I will provide all versions I have.
First you need to decide if you want to go all the way back to DI01 (Android 2.1 "Eclair") or EB01, EC01, or a little more involved process for ED01, or ED03 (android 2.2 "Froyo") it makes all the difference with the files you need. The pit file is not necessary for most recoveries, but I have included due to a few issues that will require you to completely wipe everything but your SD card and start over. All of this is possible thanks to our talented developers. After you have odin and all the files you need on your Windows Vista or Win 7 PC, This DOES NOT work on XP, I have had a lot of responses to support this, so lets go with it won't work use Vista or Win 7. To load any file you click that button and use the windows explorer pop up to find your file select it and click open at the bottom of the window.
Start by powering off phone, the pull out battery.
Open odin and load your file in PDA and ONLY THE PDA (downloads) section, If you knew enough about this program to use the other areas you would not need this walk through, soPDA and ONLY THE PDA (downloads) section, for an, all in 1 Recovery. If you are doing a non packaged update I suggest installing the rom one first, modems and recoveries are a lot faster install.
If you are repartitioning put the pit file in the (Pit) section,verify repartition is checked.
Plug your phone into a USB slot, then hold the volume down hard key on the side of the phone. You should see a yellow triangle with a construction droid on your phones screen, and a box on the left right above options (ID:COM) is now yellow.
Now you are in download mode, verify check box next to PDA is checked and the block has the file location in it. Make sure Repartition (unless you are repartitioning and have the pit file in place), Dump, Phone EFS clear, and Bootloader, Phone Bootloader Update, and Flash Lock are NOT CHECKED in the Options section. Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time can be checked or not it doesn't really matter with the battery out. These are the default settings in the options section but double check it anyway.
You are ready to go, click start, and let odin run, it can take anywhere from just a minute to around a half hour. If anything happens like your computer shuts off, you accidentally unplug your phone from your PC, or download failed. Don't freak, just do it again from step one, sometimes it takes multiple attempts to get it. I think at six failed attempts in a row it may be time to look into heimdall, the walk through for that is below this one.
Once odin finishes and does its test you will get a green box lit up that says Pass in it just above where you saw the yellow box showing you were connected. Congratulations on a successful recovery. reinstall your battery and the back cover, reboot your phone and wait for it to boot up. The boot process can take several minutes so be patient. If the boot was successful you should be looking at a stock bloated Verizon Fascinate, that is asking you to back up your system and log into Gmail.
Fascinate USB driver from Samsung, just in case you need it.
Sch-i500 USB driver
odin v1.3
odin v1.7
odin v1.83
Atlas v2.2 Pit file
DI01All in 1
EB01All in 1
ODIN CWM ED01 Stock ROM/Kernel/Recovery Courtesy of Imnuts
ODIN ED03 ROM/Kernel/Recovery Courtesy of Imnuts
MODEM ODIN CWM DL09, EA28, ED01, ED03 modems without ridiculous 100MB OTAs Courtesy of Comradesven (I can now say this works and is easy to do just folloy the instrictions on thread.) Decided to try out this method after bricking my phone again, EASY AND FAST, love it.
EC09 Gingerbread Leak CAUTION:It has not happened to me yet even after several times of flashing something custom and using this to odin back to stock with, but there are many reports of this corrupting users SD cards. This is a leak and as always USE THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
Here are the ONLY TWO, as far as we know guaranteed to get you fixed up, odin files, for anyone coming from CM7 or MUI MTD for the Fascinate.
YOU MUST USE THE ATLAS V2.2 PIT FILE, ONE OF THESE FILES, AND REPARTITION. IF YOU DON'T ODIN WILL FAIL TO COMPLETE THE RECOVERY.
CI500_VZW_DL09_ECLAIR
CI500_VZW_EB01_FROYO
SECTION 2: HEIMDALL
Now for the heimdall walk through, so follow along. I don't think it is possible to completely brick this phone short of actually smashing it, why take unnecessary chances.
First go to the link for heimdall. Download, unzip this and open the folder. In this folder you will find another folder labeled Drivers, open it and you will see a program called zadig.
Now put your Phone into download mode, that is remove the back cover, take out the battery and plug it into your PC with the OEM cable (the one that came with the phone when you got it), then press and hold the down volume button till a yellow triangle and construction droid , now you are in download mode.
Double click zadig and when it opens, click on options and click list all devices. Now drop the usb drop down box and you will find an option for SAMSUNG android composite ADB device, or Samsung composite usb driver, select it then click install drivers. the usual install stuff from windows about do you want to install this, yes you do. Now If the warning about publisher could not be verified, whatever, install it anyway, no it's not a virus. Your phone MUST be in download mode or zadig will not have the USB you need as an available option.
Now you need the files for this program to install and recover your phone. I was motivated to set up a zip file for download with files ready due to confusion on how to accomplish this step, you will find links below.
Now back into the heimdall file you opened earlier you will need to double click the heimdall.exe file, and click run on the windows pop up, it will show a cmd prompt type screen then disappear shortly after, it's supposed to do that.
Again in the click the application called heimdall-frontend. here is where you can go wrong so I will do this side by side with heimdall names and DI01/EB01 file names. I don't believe there are currently any other full recoveries.
To eliminate confusion on where to put your files follow the guige below.
Heimdall on this side of =Recovery file names on this side.
In Repartition:
PIT = atlas_v2.2.pit see below.
In PDA/Code:
FactoryFS=factoryfs.frs
Kernel(zImage)=zImage
Param.lfs=param.lfs
Primary Bootloader=boot.bin
Secondary Bootloader=slb.bin
In CSC:
Cache=cache.rfs
Database Data=dbdata.rfs
In Other:
Modem=modem.bin
Recovery=recovery.bin
Now that all the are files loaded into the correct spots, the necessary drivers installed, and phone in download mode, the start button will be able to be clicked, not shaded outlines like before, did you even notice that? If you followed everything in this tutorial step by step, click the START button and let heimdall run. After it finishes reboot your Verizon stock, Bing bloated, WORKING Fascinate. After this is completed successfully you will be able to use odin again if you need or want to.
Heimdall
DI01 heimdall package
EB01 heimdall package
Why did this happen?
Why was this necessary, as far as I can find out, through research, I wont even try to figure out how many times I had to odin ,and the eight, yes that's right I said 8, times I have HAD to use heimdall, because my phone would not recover through odin. Usually because like me you flashed a rom on for a different phone or, it seems to be, dbdata or another partition can not mount. This has happened to me because I didn't remove voodoo, or flashed a pre edify rom after accidently putting cwr3, which is for edify, on a non edify rom. So moral of the story is twofold, yes it is very likely it can be fixed, and remove voodoo before going to nonvoodoo, and make sure you have a version of cwr that supports both ammend and edify script if you are not sure. Don't flash a rom for a different phone on your Verizon Fascinate or you most likely WILL need heimdall.
NEVER USE A FILE, ROM, KERNEL, ANYTHING, THAT IS NOT CLEARLY FOR THE VERIZON FASCINATE.
Remember, thank the developers by clicking the thanks button on threads you find helpful, they did the work. All I did was take some time and put together all the links and processes I have read and had to learn. Some of the walk through threads are well written by the Dev's and some were hard for me to follow. Sometime I wonder if our Dev's forget that us mere mortals have no idea what they are talking about, and I pride myself on being much better than average with computers and software. That said if you have trouble working e mail and office, I think it's fair to say you would be lost. I hope this is easy to follow and always successful for you. Better yet I hope you never need this.
READ:If heimdall, or odin fail, but you can still get into download mode, do it again, and keep trying while you look for further assistance on this site. If you can't get into download mode with your phone plugged into your PC, unplug usb from PC and plug it into the wall outlet, and try to put it into download mode there. When It goes into download mode, unplug usb from adapter, plug it into PC and put it into download mode, This does work.
If this has Helped you not have a $600 dollar paperweight, consider donating to some of our Dev's working so hard to not only give you better than what big red and sammy gave you, but also a way to fix your mistakes without the need for an insurance claim. Isn't it worth a few bucks to support the developers who save you from the insurance deductable? Think about that before you complain about the devs.
SECTION 3: ROOTING METHODS
Here are two easy ways to accomplish rooting your phone.
ROOTING YOUR PHONE VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY. I NOR ANYONE ELSE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING YOU CHOOSE TO DO. NO ONE HERE IS MAKING YOU DO ANYTHING, JUST PROVIDING INFORMATION ON WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
Super One Click method: unzip file, open file, double click ADB, it will show a quick cmd like window. Now make sure you phone has USB debugging enabled, connect to PC, don't mount USB. Click the SuperOneClick.exe icon and let it run. If it fails run it again, sometimes it does that. If anything pops up on the screen, read and answer. Unless you are using a Captivate leave the Captivate tab alone it is for getting an unlock code and you don't need that for your Fascinate. (works on all fascinate stock OS to include ED03, and EC09 GB, tested by me.)
CWR & SU Method: (DOES NOT WORK ON 2.2.1) Put superuser.zip zip file on root of SD card, odin in cwr, boot phone into recovery by holding power and volume at same time. To do this simply install battery after unpluging from PC press and hold power and volume buttons at the same time. DO NOT let the phone boot as far as the Samsung logo or you will have to odin in cwr again. Go to Install zip, choose zip, install from SD card. Find your superuser.zip file and install it. Reboot, you are rooted, install busybox, free from market if necessary. If you need odin or instruction on using it, see section 1.
GINGERBREAK Method: Gingerbreak v1.20.apk is an easy to do method, put the apk on your sd card, install from file manager, run it.
KEEPING CWR3 IN 2.2.1: To keep CWR on any ED OTA release you need to make some adjustments to a few files. Don't worry I am going to tell you which ones, and I suggest a simple method of adding .no to the end of the file. That way if you ever need to undo it, simply go back in and remove the .no and your not trying to remember what the file name and extension was. Now here are the file names for each file, you will need something like root explorer and a rooted Fascinate to do this, and you can't rename a file unless you tap the mount system as r/w not r/o, its easy here are the examples of how I did it.
/system/recovery-from-boot.p becomes /system/recovery-from-boot.p.no
/system/bin/recovery becomes /system/bin/recovery.no
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh becomes /system/etc/install-recovery.sh.no
Superuser+busybox
CWR 3/30 Fix all
CWR3 Voodoo.tar Blue
times_infinity's recoveries
Gingerbreak v1.20
Special thanks to Adrynalyne, Imnuts, Jt1134, Nitsuj17, Landshark, Sbrissen, ChainsDD, Times Infinity, and Comradesven and anyone I forgot to thank, for creating and sharing, the heimdall, odin, and other files.
This is a great source of information. The formatting could be a little better though. Perhaps break up those great giant paragraphs a bit. It would be easier to follow along. Especially for noobs in a panic state after "bricking" their phone.
Great work though. This should be stickied.
I will Update thread to an easier format over the next few days. Thanks for the tip, i looked good to me but now i see what you are talking about. It took hours today to gather all the info, pull up each program ans walk through it. I guess I was in mental overload.
Attempted Heimdall today after odin has failed using the EB01, error was "Failed to retrieve config descriptor" any ideas?
If I flash with all CSC options unchecked the flash is successful.
When trying to boot after flash without CSC i receive a phone and a computer with a dotted line connecting the to on power up. Phone will return to DL mode.
Also attempted to flash DL01, it seems there are several files that correspond with Heim that are not in the package are the EB01 files interchangeable with the missing files?
Not trying to be that guy, but the DL01 is actually DI01. The build number DL01 doesnt exist.
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Not trying to be that guy, but the DL01 is actually DI01. The build number DL01 doesnt exist.
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You were that guy.
times_infinity said:
Not trying to be that guy, but the DL01 is actually DI01. The build number DL01 doesnt exist.
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Oops, but at least i was consistant on the typo...LOL. I will fix it this weekend.
I just got a fascinate.....commingle from a vibrant.....I can't find a root method that doesn't include a computer,my previous phone I downloaded update.zip went into recovery and bammo rooted then have spent the last unknown amount of time playing with the Roms and now want the same. With this phone anyone help? Thanks.
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Figured out this morning I wasnt using my factory usb cable switched cables odin'd stock eb01 worked perfectly now I feel retarded.
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Excellent write up. Thanks a bunch.
What are some other differences in Odin 1.7 vs 1.3? I have used 1.3 many times and never had any issues. Any improvements?
Thanks so much Dale! headed to work now, but will try this tonight
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I just got a fascinate.....commingle from a vibrant.....I can't find a root method that doesn't include a computer,my previous phone I downloaded update.zip went into recovery and bammo rooted then have spent the last unknown amount of time playing with the Roms and now want the same. With this phone anyone help? Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897889 you pretty much need a computer. z4root worked at one time iirc I used it on my fascinate at some point.
More reasons as to why you should never fear bricking your phone and testing new kernels and ROMs. Thank you for the thorough tutorial.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897889 you pretty much need a computer. z4root worked at one time iirc I used it on my fascinate at some point.
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I prefer what i think is a much simpler method. Just go to this link and follow Post 2. I don't believe I have ever had it so easy to root a phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722
nice write up, thanks for posting. I hope I never have to use it
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Attempted Heimdall today after odin has failed using the EB01, error was "Failed to retrieve config descriptor" any ideas?
If I flash with all CSC options unchecked the flash is successful.
When trying to boot after flash without CSC i receive a phone and a computer with a dotted line connecting the to on power up. Phone will return to DL mode.
Also attempted to flash DL01, it seems there are several files that correspond with Heim that are not in the package are the EB01 files interchangeable with the missing files?
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Got that once cause i didn't install the drivers in zadig. I installed it, didn't reboot PC, worked fine. If you had the CSC unchecked then you didnt install a cache or database, so no your phone wont work like that. Unless you ran into something new, follow this guide step by step, and it should work. I would also make sure you get the files from here, they are tested and known to be good. There are some incomplete, and bad files out there, these work.
Heimdall is officially the greatest piece of software ever created and DaleV is my hero!!! FINALLY have my phone up and running again! Was serious contemplating dropping around $300 for a new phone on Craigslist.
Trying to root a Fascinate, and it showed up in ODIN once, then the flash failed. Now it's in download mode and not showing up in ODIN, any ideas?
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Trying to root a Fascinate, and it showed up in ODIN once, then the flash failed. Now it's in download mode and not showing up in ODIN, any ideas?
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after it failed did you unplug then replug and go back into download mode? also I updated the OP with a superuser.zip file it works better than the one in the market for showing you have root access, I have no idea why.
Also you might try a different usb port, sometimes that does the trick.
I've unplugged and replugged and rebooted it a dozen times... it first goes to 2e recovery, then I reinstall packages and it reboots to the simplified download mode with just basic little icons. Doesn't get recognized by the computer though. :/
Wont boot into anything but 2e, and from there into oldschool download mode.
I had my girlfriend's fascinate running MIUI and then I flashed CM7. When I booted into recovery it took me into the red one and now I can't do anything. I'm always getting errors. How can I get back to the blue recovery or what can I do?
I can't get past the Glitch screen it just stays on there
Please help
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I had my girlfriend's fascinate running MIUI and then I flashed CM7. When I booted into recovery it took me into the red one and now I can't do anything. I'm always getting errors. How can I get back to the blue recovery or what can I do?
I can't get past the Glitch screen it just stays on there
Please help
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Odin the proper clockwork,reboot straight to it, wipe data and then flash CM7 from the SD card.
Please give me step by step instructions with links. I'm an HTC Thunderbolt guy myself so I am having a hard time finding all the right links and stuff. I really appreciate your help!
First sticky in this forum has all the links and steps.
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I tried flashing the fix all recovery and it's still not working. Again, I appreciate your guy's help.
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I tried flashing the fix all recovery and it's still not working. Again, I appreciate your guy's help.
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Really? did you look at the sticky?
Code:
HOW TO UN-BRICK YOUR FASCINATE NOW THAT YOU HAVE BRICKED IT
SINCE IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION SOME POEPLE ARE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT PHONE THIS IS FOR, I WILL MAKE IT AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE
THIS IS FOR THE VERIZON FASCINATE
So you think you bricked your phone? The first thing you need to do is CALM DOWN, NO NEED TO PANIC , the odds are great that following this guide will fix your mistakes and recover your phone.
Sorry Fascinate owners, but I can no longer support this thread. As state below I test everything I post to make sure it works as advertised. I no longer have a fascinate so i can not test anything new. All of the files, I cant guarantee links to other OP's, will still be available, I wont take them down. Your recovery methods have not changed, nor have the PIT files, so this can still be used to recover your device. If you are looking for anything new look at nitsuj17's roll up post here, he maintains it very well so you should be able to find whatever else you need there.
I HAVE PURPOSELY BRICKED MY PHONE BY DOING THE THINGS YOU ARE TOLD NOT TO JUST TO TEST THE CAPABILITIES OF THESE RECOVERY PROGRAMS. UNLESS YOU CAN AFFORD TO HAVE YOUR PHONE REPLACED BY INSURANCE, TRUST THAT I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
SECTION 1: ODIN
SECTION 2: HEIMDALL
SECTION 3: ROOTING METHODS
Since there seems to be an abundance of posts in the Q&A and General Forums asking for help fixing, unbricking, their Fascinates, I decided to try to make a one stop walk through for odin and heimdall with links. Most of us "flash addicts", Developers, and testers have found the Samsung Galaxy Phones are nearly impossible to truly brick without causing physical damage to your phone, in almost all cases it is possible to get it working again.This is nothing more than how to get back a working STOCK phone, nothing custom here that's in the Development section. The first section will cover odin, the second heimdall, the third recovery and rooting.
USUAL WARNING: Everything here is done at your own risk. None of us on the XDA Developers site are responsible in any way, after all we didn't brick it you did. Doing any of this is your decision, I am just providing a collection of information. All credit for everything here belongs to others, who worked hard to give you a way to fix your mistakes, and it usually is the owner of the device trying something without learning how first, or not following directions that got you here in the first place.
My Phone wont boot at all, is stuck at logo, or I cant do anything with it is it a paperweight?
Most likely, no, so lets get to fixing it. All download links necessary for each process will be posted in this walk through and have been tested to make sure they work.
SECTION 1: ODIN
Everything except for the pit file in odin MUST be done in the PDA slot, if not it will not work requiring you to odin again, or possibly have to use heimdall (covered later in this thread) to fix that. After you download odin, I use v1.83 but I will provide all versions I have.
First you need to decide if you want to go all the way back to DI01 (Android 2.1 "Eclair") or EB01, EC01, or a little more involved process for ED01, or ED03 (android 2.2 "Froyo") it makes all the difference with the files you need. The pit file is not necessary for most recoveries, but I have included due to a few issues that will require you to completely wipe everything but your SD card and start over. All of this is possible thanks to our talented developers. After you have odin and all the files you need on your Windows Vista or Win 7 PC, This DOES NOT work on XP, I have had a lot of responses to support this, so lets go with it won't work use Vista or Win 7. To load any file you click that button and use the windows explorer pop up to find your file select it and click open at the bottom of the window.
Start by powering off phone, the pull out battery.
Open odin and load your file in PDA and ONLY THE PDA (downloads) section, If you knew enough about this program to use the other areas you would not need this walk through, soPDA and ONLY THE PDA (downloads) section, for an, all in 1 Recovery. If you are doing a non packaged update I suggest installing the rom one first, modems and recoveries are a lot faster install.
If you are repartitioning put the pit file in the (Pit) section,verify repartition is checked.
Plug your phone into a USB slot, then hold the volume down hard key on the side of the phone. You should see a yellow triangle with a construction droid on your phones screen, and a box on the left right above options (ID:COM) is now yellow.
Now you are in download mode, verify check box next to PDA is checked and the block has the file location in it. Make sure Repartition (unless you are repartitioning and have the pit file in place), Dump, Phone EFS clear, and Bootloader, Phone Bootloader Update, and Flash Lock are NOT CHECKED in the Options section. Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time can be checked or not it doesn't really matter with the battery out. These are the default settings in the options section but double check it anyway.
You are ready to go, click start, and let odin run, it can take anywhere from just a minute to around a half hour. If anything happens like your computer shuts off, you accidentally unplug your phone from your PC, or download failed. Don't freak, just do it again from step one, sometimes it takes multiple attempts to get it. I think at six failed attempts in a row it may be time to look into heimdall, the walk through for that is below this one.
Once odin finishes and does its test you will get a green box lit up that says Pass in it just above where you saw the yellow box showing you were connected. Congratulations on a successful recovery. reinstall your battery and the back cover, reboot your phone and wait for it to boot up. The boot process can take several minutes so be patient. If the boot was successful you should be looking at a stock bloated Verizon Fascinate, that is asking you to back up your system and log into Gmail.
Fascinate USB driver from Samsung, just in case you need it.
Sch-i500 USB driver
odin v1.3
odin v1.7
odin v1.83
Atlas v2.2 Pit file
DI01All in 1
EB01All in 1
ODIN CWM ED01 Stock ROM/Kernel/Recovery Courtesy of Imnuts
ODIN ED03 ROM/Kernel/Recovery Courtesy of Imnuts
MODEM ODIN CWM DL09, EA28, ED01, ED03 modems without ridiculous 100MB OTAs Courtesy of Comradesven (I can now say this works and is easy to do just folloy the instrictions on thread.) Decided to try out this method after bricking my phone again, EASY AND FAST, love it.
EC09 Gingerbread Leak CAUTION:It has not happened to me yet even after several times of flashing something custom and using this to odin back to stock with, but there are many reports of this corrupting users SD cards. This is a leak and as always USE THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
Here are the ONLY TWO, as far as we know guaranteed to get you fixed up, odin files, for anyone coming from CM7 or MUI MTD for the Fascinate.
YOU MUST USE THE ATLAS V2.2 PIT FILE, ONE OF THESE FILES, AND REPARTITION. IF YOU DON'T ODIN WILL FAIL TO COMPLETE THE RECOVERY.
CI500_VZW_DL09_ECLAIR
CI500_VZW_EB01_FROYO
SECTION 2: HEIMDALL
Now for the heimdall walk through, so follow along. I don't think it is possible to completely brick this phone short of actually smashing it, why take unnecessary chances.
First go to the link for heimdall. Download, unzip this and open the folder. In this folder you will find another folder labeled Drivers, open it and you will see a program called zadig.
Now put your Phone into download mode, that is remove the back cover, take out the battery and plug it into your PC with the OEM cable (the one that came with the phone when you got it), then press and hold the down volume button till a yellow triangle and construction droid , now you are in download mode.
Double click zadig and when it opens, click on options and click list all devices. Now drop the usb drop down box and you will find an option for SAMSUNG android composite ADB device, or Samsung composite usb driver, select it then click install drivers. the usual install stuff from windows about do you want to install this, yes you do. Now If the warning about publisher could not be verified, whatever, install it anyway, no it's not a virus. Your phone MUST be in download mode or zadig will not have the USB you need as an available option.
Now you need the files for this program to install and recover your phone. I was motivated to set up a zip file for download with files ready due to confusion on how to accomplish this step, you will find links below.
Now back into the heimdall file you opened earlier you will need to double click the heimdall.exe file, and click run on the windows pop up, it will show a cmd prompt type screen then disappear shortly after, it's supposed to do that.
Again in the click the application called heimdall-frontend. here is where you can go wrong so I will do this side by side with heimdall names and DI01/EB01 file names. I don't believe there are currently any other full recoveries.
To eliminate confusion on where to put your files follow the guige below.
Heimdall on this side of =Recovery file names on this side.
In Repartition:
PIT = atlas_v2.2.pit see below.
In PDA/Code:
FactoryFS=factoryfs.frs
Kernel(zImage)=zImage
Param.lfs=param.lfs
Primary Bootloader=boot.bin
Secondary Bootloader=slb.bin
In CSC:
Cache=cache.rfs
Database Data=dbdata.rfs
In Other:
Modem=modem.bin
Recovery=recovery.bin
Now that all the are files loaded into the correct spots, the necessary drivers installed, and phone in download mode, the start button will be able to be clicked, not shaded outlines like before, did you even notice that? If you followed everything in this tutorial step by step, click the START button and let heimdall run. After it finishes reboot your Verizon stock, Bing bloated, WORKING Fascinate. After this is completed successfully you will be able to use odin again if you need or want to.
Heimdall
DI01 heimdall package
EB01 heimdall package
Why did this happen?
Why was this necessary, as far as I can find out, through research, I wont even try to figure out how many times I had to odin ,and the eight, yes that's right I said 8, times I have HAD to use heimdall, because my phone would not recover through odin. Usually because like me you flashed a rom on for a different phone or, it seems to be, dbdata or another partition can not mount. This has happened to me because I didn't remove voodoo, or flashed a pre edify rom after accidently putting cwr3, which is for edify, on a non edify rom. So moral of the story is twofold, yes it is very likely it can be fixed, and remove voodoo before going to nonvoodoo, and make sure you have a version of cwr that supports both ammend and edify script if you are not sure. Don't flash a rom for a different phone on your Verizon Fascinate or you most likely WILL need heimdall.
NEVER USE A FILE, ROM, KERNEL, ANYTHING, THAT IS NOT CLEARLY FOR THE VERIZON FASCINATE.
Remember, thank the developers by clicking the thanks button on threads you find helpful, they did the work. All I did was take some time and put together all the links and processes I have read and had to learn. Some of the walk through threads are well written by the Dev's and some were hard for me to follow. Sometime I wonder if our Dev's forget that us mere mortals have no idea what they are talking about, and I pride myself on being much better than average with computers and software. That said if you have trouble working e mail and office, I think it's fair to say you would be lost. I hope this is easy to follow and always successful for you. Better yet I hope you never need this.
READ:If heimdall, or odin fail, but you can still get into download mode, do it again, and keep trying while you look for further assistance on this site. If you can't get into download mode with your phone plugged into your PC, unplug usb from PC and plug it into the wall outlet, and try to put it into download mode there. When It goes into download mode, unplug usb from adapter, plug it into PC and put it into download mode, This does work.
If this has Helped you not have a $600 dollar paperweight, consider donating to some of our Dev's working so hard to not only give you better than what big red and sammy gave you, but also a way to fix your mistakes without the need for an insurance claim. Isn't it worth a few bucks to support the developers who save you from the insurance deductable? Think about that before you complain about the devs.
SECTION 3: ROOTING METHODS
Here are two easy ways to accomplish rooting your phone.
ROOTING YOUR PHONE VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY. I NOR ANYONE ELSE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING YOU CHOOSE TO DO. NO ONE HERE IS MAKING YOU DO ANYTHING, JUST PROVIDING INFORMATION ON WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
Super One Click method: unzip file, open file, double click ADB, it will show a quick cmd like window. Now make sure you phone has USB debugging enabled, connect to PC, don't mount USB. Click the SuperOneClick.exe icon and let it run. If it fails run it again, sometimes it does that. If anything pops up on the screen, read and answer. Unless you are using a Captivate leave the Captivate tab alone it is for getting an unlock code and you don't need that for your Fascinate. (works on all fascinate stock OS to include ED03, and EC09 GB, tested by me.)
CWR & SU Method: (DOES NOT WORK ON 2.2.1) Put superuser.zip zip file on root of SD card, odin in cwr, boot phone into recovery by holding power and volume at same time. To do this simply install battery after unpluging from PC press and hold power and volume buttons at the same time. DO NOT let the phone boot as far as the Samsung logo or you will have to odin in cwr again. Go to Install zip, choose zip, install from SD card. Find your superuser.zip file and install it. Reboot, you are rooted, install busybox, free from market if necessary. If you need odin or instruction on using it, see section 1.
GINGERBREAK Method: Gingerbreak v1.20.apk is an easy to do method, put the apk on your sd card, install from file manager, run it.
KEEPING CWR3 IN 2.2.1: To keep CWR on any ED OTA release you need to make some adjustments to a few files. Don't worry I am going to tell you which ones, and I suggest a simple method of adding .no to the end of the file. That way if you ever need to undo it, simply go back in and remove the .no and your not trying to remember what the file name and extension was. Now here are the file names for each file, you will need something like root explorer and a rooted Fascinate to do this, and you can't rename a file unless you tap the mount system as r/w not r/o, its easy here are the examples of how I did it.
/system/recovery-from-boot.p becomes /system/recovery-from-boot.p.no
/system/bin/recovery becomes /system/bin/recovery.no
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh becomes /system/etc/install-recovery.sh.no
Superuser+busybox
CWR 3/30 Fix all
CWR3 Voodoo.tar Blue
times_infinity's recoveries
Gingerbreak v1.20
Special thanks to Adrynalyne, Imnuts, Jt1134, Nitsuj17, Landshark, Sbrissen, ChainsDD, Times Infinity, and Comradesven and anyone I forgot to thank, for creating and sharing, the heimdall, odin, and other files.
Everything you need can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1026746
odin...
atlas_v2.2.pit
CI500_VZW_ED05_FROYO_REL.tar.md5
check repartition
then follow the CM wiki
I don't understand why I'm getting this: http://imgur.com/WkDsK
Sorry for rotated picture.
I'm in the process of flashing the verizon firmware but it's taking forever to download. I thought I could just odin the CWM?
You better do some research before u brick ur ****...there are guides all over the place on how to get back to stock/flash roms. And last but not least all questions should be posted in the q&a section...that's what its there for...seriously use it!
Ok I flashed Verizon firmware, then did the CM Wiki steps, but for some reason my recovery is acting funky.
When I try to connect it to my mac it says it can't read what I'm trying to connect. When I connected it to windows laptop it says its a CD drive that is write protected.
I can't move any files in or out. Also when I try to flash a rom zip in recovery it doesn't work.
I'm in the process of trying to restore her MIUI backup. Here's to hoping that works.
EDIT: Supposedly the restore worked, but here is part of the error that showed when trying to flash a zip (top text): http://imgur.com/X1RQL
Oh and I'm stuck on the Samsung screen now...what do I do?
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Ok I flashed Verizon firmware, then did the CM Wiki steps, but for some reason my recovery is acting funky.
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if you did CM Wiki, you have CWM 4.X, not 2 or 3
you need to flash back to stock like i said
I did flash back to stock. Anyways in the broken clockwork recovery I decided to try and install MIUI again and when I clicked it it took me to an orange recovery.
Then I flashed her backup and it loaded up fine. Hopefully everything is back to the way it was. I'm not sure what ever went wrong in the first place.Thanks for your help.
Dude...sounds like you just made it hard. Its actually quite simple.
Pull battery, put in download mode.
Odin the Verizon firmware with atlas.pit and repartition checked.
let it boot, then shut it back down and go back into download mode and Odin the fixed recovery for CM7. Then flash MIUI and profit.
It shouldn't take but about 15 minutes out so for the whole process
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Well I wish you had been here last night. I was told to do the heimdall thing and then after all that the phone wouldn't be recognized in odin.
It was a frustrating 3 hour long process (granted ~1h was waiting for the 441MB file to download).
so I found this thread searching through the fascinate forums and i gotta say, it saved my ass. I used heimdall 1.3.1 and it wasn't working right for the flash. IDK why but when I tried 1.1.1 it worked first try to flash back to stock after brick. I used the eh03_full_odin.zip file in heimdall and it quick and easy to get back to stock =] this forum rox!!