Database Users

Introducing Eden – VII The Leaves

New video posted on the notion ink wordpress blog site. I'm very interested in this device...

I dunno..but I really wish great android Icons like Paul O Brian, koush, Cyanogen are keeping an eye on this video or not..? because in the end, I would like a rooted Adam with customs Roms on it..

Custom roms would be great but don't you think that notionink has done a pretty awesome job customizing android already?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

pringlechip said:
Custom roms would be great but don't you think that notionink has done a pretty awesome job customizing android already?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i agree. i would love the ability to flash custom roms but i am getting this tablet knowing that i will be happy with it out of the box they have put a lot of time into the ui and i'm anxious to use it. i believe we will be able to root and get a custom recovery on the adam unlike the archos tablets.

I hope, i can run Ubuntu on my Adam from SD Card or Usb pen.
And there's another video on blog maybe the last before CES.

I'm extremely disappointed that it's not possible to run normal android apps in leaves. Given that I expect at most 1 in 1000 android apps to be rewritten specifically for adam in the near to medium future, Eden is reduced from a fantastic UI paradigm to a neat toy.

As Rohan explained: it will be possible after the Honeycombe update which is expected in March

Pxoeb6mU said:
I'm extremely disappointed that it's not possible to run normal android apps in leaves. Given that I expect at most 1 in 1000 android apps to be rewritten specifically for adam in the near to medium future, Eden is reduced from a fantastic UI paradigm to a neat toy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am disappointed as well, but after further examination I realized that there isn't one application that I run on Android that Notion Ink hasn't already designed an alternative for. 30% of my activities are Pandora which is usually running in the background, I expect them to get a 1024 by 600 app out soon. 60% is consumed by web browsing, and finally the last 10% is games, which I plan to run at full screen on the Adam anyways. Hopefully this was just another miscommunication by Rohan and their will be a way to run them.

Yeah not being able to run android apps till honeycomb comes out kind it sucks but we will get tablet apps instead of phones apps. To me it's worth the wait. Can wait till I get mine in the mail
Sent from my Droid using XDA App

Kartiel, you can run Android apps, just not in a Leaf.
e.g. I would really like to be able to run Trillian in a Leaf.

Remember that we don't know what honeycomb will bring.
the only glimpse of it made it look like it had panels. The NI team may have created a very similar UI to what Google is putting out

Things that I love about ICS:

1) my bookmarks are finally syncing with google in the stock browser. Never did in honeycomb
2) browser speed. Much better rendering
3) request desktop version in stock browser finally
4) gallery has a better look to it with the larger tiles
5) speed of ics makes my xoom seem like a new upgraded tablet
6) ics just feels more polished
7) no more keyboard lag
8) better email and calendar support
9) ice cream is just tastier in real life than honeycomb.

+1 on that. I love ICS on my xoom.

chasehq11 said:
1) my bookmarks are finally syncing with google in the stock browser. Never did in honeycomb
2) browser speed. Much better rendering
5) speed of ics makes my xoom seem like a new upgraded tablet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
these are the features I like... the ics rom rules....

The web browser is not only faster, it seems to be more stable then honeycomb. I got force closes all the time under HC.

chasehq11 said:
6) ics just feels more polished
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes. So much more polished. Every navigation/tap/swipe/press on ICS just responds way better than Honeycomb.

chasehq11 said:
1) my bookmarks are finally syncing with google in the stock browser. Never did in honeycomb
2) browser speed. Much better rendering
3) request desktop version in stock browser finally
4) gallery has a better look to it with the larger tiles
5) speed of ics makes my xoom seem like a new upgraded tablet
6) ics just feels more polished
7) no more keyboard lag
8) better email and calendar support
9) ice cream is just tastier in real life than honeycomb.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1)I have two Google accounts and for some inexplicable reason only one account comes up in the browser when it comes to syncing; the one that I don't use on my laptop. The account I use on my laptop doesn't even appear in the settings menu in the browser. And yes, 'Sync Browser' is checked under the intended account and unchecked on the other one in the 'Accounts' menu. Maybe I have to clear the cache
2)Agreed!
3)I had to do this for each website (unless there's something I'm missing but I'm definitely happy to see this option
4)I preferred the 3D gallery but to each their own.
5)I would have been very pleased with Honeycomb had it been as smooth and polished as ICS. ICS makes Honeycomb seem even more like a half-assed OS...but I digress.
6)+1
7)Keyboard lag was another one of my numerous pet peeves in Honeycomb. I love the new keyboard and the suggested words up top. The keyboard is already too big for me to comfortably tap the suggested words up top regularly but it's nice to have them there.
8)+1
9)Overall, ICS is what Honeycomb should have been. In it's defense, they used what was actually right with Honeycomb and used it as a foundation for ICS and the end result is great! Shouts to Team EOS for their hard work in bringing ICS to us while we're still young!

Agree with the OP. The only thing I can't stand is why they can't make icons that are the same size. I personally don't like how the camera icon is so huge but the other icons are a little bit smaller.
Is it that hard?
I'm running ICS on my Xoom and no complaints so far.

to add to the list
1. the name....
2. no more keyboard lag
3. no more green

i rooted my Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670 with ICS ...
ICS looks better and faster the Gingerbread 2.3.6 ...
may be the port which i got from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429171&page=6# is bit unstable ... still having issues with camera ...
but overall i'm having to ICS over gingerbread ....

Man, I'm so jealous! I can't wait for a stable working ROM (or official)

10) Unofficial ICS runs better on Xoom than official OTA ICS on Prime.

razorseal said:
Man, I'm so jealous! I can't wait for a stable working ROM (or official)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you on Xoom? If so, both Wifi-wingray and 4G LTE-stingray versions are super stable and quite complete. If you're not on Xoom, sorry.

okantomi said:
Are you on Xoom? If so, both Wifi-wingray and 4G LTE-stingray versions are super stable and quite complete. If you're not on Xoom, sorry.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed, really happy with ICS on my Xoom, using EOS nightly 17 at the moment.

Xoom living up to its potential

It's unbelievable the transformation over the past few weeks with the release of ICS source code. My Xoom went from being my favorite device, to being my favorite device that I want to brag about and show everyone. I feel like an iTard selling everyone on how awesome my device is. So what exactly has ICS done for me?
1) Much smoother interface. The Tiamat kernel was already smooth but ICS version is silky smooth.
2) New Interface. Significant improvement over the HC interface. As an example, the built in folder system is great, the way you access widgets is fantastic, and I love the new color scheme.
3) Data monitoring. I know there are apps for this but I love the fact that I can set the system to warn me if I am reaching my limit. It shows me which apps have used what.
4) Face unlock. So cool.
5) Panoramic Picture taking. Some people say this is a novelty, but I really like being able to take these kind of pictures. They can be so artistic and fun to develop
6)Better web client. On HC there were several pages that would just crash for me. I have yet to have the web client crash and have noticed no lag on any pages so far. I will continue to look out for issues but so far it has been noticeably better
7)Active application list. Love this thing. I use it way more since it serves the purpose of multi-tasking and the ability to free up memory if I want it.
Big thanks to Team EOS for putting out such a sick nightly run.
So what is it about ICS that you all like?

Re: Xoom
My Xoom is screaming ever since I took the plung and installed Team EOS ICS on my Xoom. its like having a brandnew Xoom. I love it so much that I will be bringing to work and show it off to others. Thank you so very much Team EOS! You guys rock!..

[Q] is anyone working to get a CyanogenMod 7 or 9 for GTab 7.7 ?

i'm looking forward to see CM9 or even CM7 in this beauty to unlock its full potential and ... be free from TouchWiz

Well, I would see CM7 as big step down from the stock 3.2 OS. And, I doubt there will be a CM9 until Samsung releases an ICS update. So, maybe by May?

I think the release of ics will be near to the release of sgs2 ics .
And thats begin or end of 2nd quartal 2012.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

burhanistan said:
Well, I would see CM7 as big step down from the stock 3.2 OS. And, I doubt there will be a CM9 until Samsung releases an ICS update. So, maybe by May?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung won't issue a ICS for the original Tab but there is already a version working for it (although not final yet)
The issue is more about having a base large enough of 7.7 users and developers to make it happen, which probably won't be really soon given the fact it;s not sold yet in the US and in many other counties
That's one of the reasons why I am not in a hurry yet to replace my original Tab

Alcibiade said:
Samsung won't issue a ICS for the original Tab but there is already a version working for it (although not final yet)
The issue is more about having a base large enough of 7.7 users and developers to make it happen, which probably won't be really soon given the fact it;s not sold yet in the US and in many other counties
That's one of the reasons why I am not in a hurry yet to replace my original Tab
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, but we were talking about the 7.7 in the first place. Samsung has already indicated that it will be among the devices that it will update to ICS.
I'm running ICS on my OG 7" and it's pretty smooth, but yeah, Samsung has pretty much abandoned that device.

burhanistan said:
Yeah, but we were talking about the 7.7 in the first place. Samsung has already indicated that it will be among the devices that it will update to ICS.
I'm running ICS on my OG 7" and it's pretty smooth, but yeah, Samsung has pretty much abandoned that device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The topic is about CM for the Tab 7.7
And I keep my assertion that you don't need to wait for Samsung's implementation of ICS for the Tab 7.7to ave CM on the 7.7 (And I gave as example the original tab)

xenix96 said:
I think the release of ics will be near to the release of sgs2 ics .
And thats begin or end of 2nd quartal 2012.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pretty much depends on whether they want to sell this beautiful device. If they don't want to sell it I would go with Q2, if they do, I would hurry up otherwise this thing will be born dead. No rational being would consider an old OS device when there are newer ones in the market (which will definitely happen before the end of Q1)
And it is pretty much clear this device needs ICS badly. If a user in a store will compare the 1.4 ghz tab to a 1.2 GHz Transformer Prime it is evident he should go with the Prime now.
Also I would say that for tablets an update is much more important than for a phone. Web browsing for example, is boosted enormously on ICS. Considering that much users buy a tablet for web browsing it would be a no brainer to boost this 1.4 GHz of 7.7" amoled goodness

Am I the only one who isn't all that bothered by TouchWiz? Not the launcher of course, I've never been a fan of that... However, once you replace the home launcher with something better, TouchWiz isn't really that bad. I mean, the quick launch apps on the menu bar is a brilliant idea, and I use it all the time! It's awesome now that you can customize the Samsung apps there too now. Now all the quick launch bar needs is support to launch any app/widget you want, and it'd be perfect!
Now don't get me wrong, I love me some vanilla Android, and you can bet your toes that if CM9 becomes available for the 7.7, I'll be at least trying it out to see how it compares. That said, I already know I will be missing that quick launch bar... Oh if only there were something similar, but for an AOSP!! Then again, once you reach that point, it's more a question of which would you prefer: A TouchWiz themed AOSP, or an AOSP themed TouchWiz?

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Am I the only one who isn't all that bothered by TouchWiz? Not the launcher of course, I've never been a fan of that... However, once you replace the home launcher with something better, TouchWiz isn't really that bad. I mean, the quick launch apps on the menu bar is a brilliant idea, and I use it all the time! It's awesome now that you can customize the Samsung apps there too now. Now all the quick launch bar needs is support to launch any app/widget you want, and it'd be perfect!
Now don't get me wrong, I love me some vanilla Android, and you can bet your toes that if CM9 becomes available for the 7.7, I'll be at least trying it out to see how it compares. That said, I already know I will be missing that quick launch bar... Oh if only there were something similar, but for an AOSP!! Then again, once you reach that point, it's more a question of which would you prefer: A TouchWiz themed AOSP, or an AOSP themed TouchWiz?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. Just replace the launcher and you have something really good. I actually like some of the Samsung's apps (Typically the email client is fantastic and I haven't found anything that comes close to t on the market). It is the same for many other Samsung proprietary apps that work only with the Touchwiz workframe. And I regret these apps...
HOWEVER performance wise (and battery life wise) CM or other variants (I am using BOCA) are just night and day with Samsung's ROMs... Maybe the 7.7 has so much horsepower that it doesn't matter too much (although I am sure at one stage it will). But clearly for the original Tab I just cannot go back to Samsung base ROM even though I regret the apps...

Would be fantastic if I could instal ICS on it right now. Is it already possible to instal CM9 on the tab 7.7? Or maybe a "leaked" version from Samsung. Hope touchwize wont lag as much as it does now. Device is rooted.
Verstuurd van mijn GT-P6810 met Tapatalk

cm7 is based on gingerbread so does anyone really want to go from android 3.2 to 2.3?
cm9 will come to the device but as for now samsung is working on ics for sgs2.
when they finish sgs2 update they will release ics for note and g 7.7

appelflap said:
Also I would say that for tablets an update is much more important than for a phone. Web browsing for example, is boosted enormously on ICS. Considering that much users buy a tablet for web browsing it would be a no brainer to boost this 1.4 GHz of 7.7" amoled goodness
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm currently one of those
i'm so drooling for the Asus Prime, but... the only thing that is keeping me away from purchasing the Asus Prime, is the nVidia Tegra, which is ironic as it's the most powerful Quad core out there right now
but nVidia has bad reputation in Android for NEVER releasing source codes, no source codes = cheesy 3rd development support
and also because the Prime lacks OLED display
I might change my mind if i see CM9 for the ASUS Prime, but for now Gtab 7.7 is pretty much the nicest thing on the market with the largest SAMOLED+ HD display which is what i'm shopping for.

i'm indifferent about TW or CM
TW bonus is really on all the extra hardware codecs it comes with it, which is great if you plan to watch a lot of video on the tablet
CM on the other hand lacks those extra codecs, being AOSP based, but it makes up for it for all the build in features, settings, customization, and power
of course TW based ROMs can be OC too, but there's always all that extra stuff that are not really wanted included, all the stuff that i usually end up replacing with 3rd party apps or prefer the ones that comes from stock AOSP better.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Am I the only one who isn't all that bothered by TouchWiz? Not the launcher of course, I've never been a fan of that... However, once you replace the home launcher with something better, TouchWiz isn't really that bad. I mean, the quick launch apps on the menu bar is a brilliant idea, and I use it all the time! It's awesome now that you can customize the Samsung apps there too now. Now all the quick launch bar needs is support to launch any app/widget you want, and it'd be perfect!
Now don't get me wrong, I love me some vanilla Android, and you can bet your toes that if CM9 becomes available for the 7.7, I'll be at least trying it out to see how it compares. That said, I already know I will be missing that quick launch bar... Oh if only there were something similar, but for an AOSP!! Then again, once you reach that point, it's more a question of which would you prefer: A TouchWiz themed AOSP, or an AOSP themed TouchWiz?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

AllGamer said:
i'm indifferent about TW or CM
TW bonus is really on all the extra hardware codecs it comes with it, which is great if you plan to watch a lot of video on the tablet
CM on the other hand lacks those extra codecs, being AOSP based, but it makes up for it for all the build in features, settings, customization, and power
of course TW based ROMs can be OC too, but there's always all that extra stuff that are not really wanted included, all the stuff that i usually end up replacing with 3rd party apps or prefer the ones that comes from stock AOSP better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good points indeed! Normally I'm pretty well set as long as I have root and CWM. Most of my personal customization's don't go beyond changing the launcher anyway. I do play a lot of video's so I guess that's why I'm happy with TW.
Now that I do have both root and CWM, I'm a pretty happy camper!
At this point, a TW ICS can only make things better (provided I can still keep CWM and Root of course!)

Why install Cyanogenmod?

Okey, so Cyanogenmod is coming to our wonderful TF and people are hyping about this. I'm just wondering why. So we get an equalizer and themes support, hoopla. And we're minus the Polaris Office which Asus provides as a free extra, which is a long and big minus.
So why install it?
(I'm not a troll, I'm just curious because don't see any reason for all the hype.)

Cyanogenmod is 100% open source. Once Cyanogenmod has a working TF101 build that means that others can build on top of it, and when Asus drops support we can use the cyanogenmod made code to keep our devices up to date. CM roms are also feature rich and offer constant updates. If you're willing to give up (or just pay for) Polaris then you'll see how much smoother AOSP roms are.

Polaris Office. recovery installable .zip is in Tjemes and apps section, its extracted from main ics build.
Sent from my GT-I5700 using XDA

Polaris office don't work for me , on ROM CM9 cornerstone.....

That is not the only thing that does not work in cornerstone...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium

Polaris office works fine on CM9 non-cornerstone.

for the moment, what do you guys choose ? transformer rom or cyanogen rom ?

CoopZor said:
for the moment, what do you guys choose ? transformer rom or cyanogen rom ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for now modified stock
maybe in the future cm9 but for now nah
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app

This question interest me too.
Is someone able to be a bit more specific about what a 'feature rich' CM9 brings beyond what the stock ROM has?
And what do we lose functionally besides the applications Asus has added?
A list of important differences would be very informative.

CM9 includes an entire list of performance tweaks and options such as reboot to recovery, my CM9 on my phone also uses the volume keys when screen is off to skip tracks without having to wake the device and press a button on the screen..just for a small example.

luna_c666 said:
CM9 includes an entire list of performance tweaks and options such as reboot to recovery, my CM9 on my phone also uses the volume keys when screen is off to skip tracks without having to wake the device and press a button on the screen..just for a small example.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Several music apps do the same with vol keys
Also reboot options are gonna be added to modified stock at some point just like in honeycomb
I like the stock notification area and settings to i think cm9 should have something similar
I love cyanogenmod use it on my phone all the time its quick and awesome but at the moment i dont see the reason to switch yet on the tf
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app

i should say, im fairly eager as well to try out CM, but as far as i understand, its not as mature as the stock OS itself. ive read poor support for the camera, wifi and bluetooth, which in its own right is a CM-killer for me. but perhaps that is not the case now?
i love being in control of my phone/tablet and that's why i want to get away from stock roms that are always trying to unroot and lock the phone or tablet, that is not the meaning of open source and Android to me.
anyhow, id love someone knowledgeable on CM to debunk the issues with camera, wifi and bluetooth. id love to know what to expect in terms of stability, play store support and such, so that we could all have a clear understanding of what CM is and what it can do, how it differs, etc.
Thanks in advance,

Im hoping the lack of official support has been due to cm getting new build machines, cm said they,ll be up and running in a few days
Sent from my R800i using xda premium

locutus7o9 said:
This question interest me too.
Is someone able to be a bit more specific about what a 'feature rich' CM9 brings beyond what the stock ROM has?
And what do we lose functionally besides the applications Asus has added?
A list of important differences would be very informative.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Responsive, boot up time is quicker more customization's. For example taking away the names under the apps so its just the app itself.. if we had a built in LED set the LED blink frequency time or intervals and some even change its color and assign it to email, battery ect. Battery life is way long but its very quick. Bounce back affect when you hit the sides,Glow, change window transitions, like have the homescreen change in card stack form, flip, boxed, fade, spin ect or just have a constant home screen switching (no end) just starts over. Change the weight of the transition from light to heavy so it feels like light as a feather or heavy when switching screens. Erasing the Google search bar , change how notifications behave. Change the sound pitch. Hide status bar or the dock screen so its just your wallpaper and apps.. assign swipe animations like sliding your finger up or down you can make the status bar appear or dock dispel. Different lock screens, lock screen gestures.Make the static wallpaper not move with transitions (which gives a speedy feel to everything). Force Live wallpapers to not move with each screen swipe.. it feels like its more stable and less stuttering when using a LWP.That's just a quick list off the top of my head. Plus alot of changes under the hood. They also support theme's depending on the launcher they include.
You can get most of this separate by getting another launcher but its not built into the package. Its not bonded to your transformer. With CM its all there ready to use. Its done very subtle that it looks like it meant for it since its a tweaked version of the ones you can get in the Market. Some people dont like CM since its not as flashy. That's why most get a CM based ROM with added stuff. I love the CM9.. Right now there on there 2nd nightly build. I would wait till they announce an RC version or stable. Currently, dock support is glitchy and its missing features since its there 2nd nightly build. Nighties are like Beta builds. Not a daily driver..
---------- Post added at 12:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:57 PM ----------
will8578 said:
Im hoping the lack of official support has been due to cm getting new build machines, cm said they,ll be up and running in a few days
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it was.. they released there 2nd nightly build yesterday right after they announced there new servers.

Just for info, this is there 4th nightly, i know it only shows 2 but iv installed at least 4, oh and nice defence cm rocks
Sent from my R800i using xda premium

hardy81 said:
Okey, so Cyanogenmod is coming to our wonderful TF and people are hyping about this. I'm just wondering why. So we get an equalizer and themes support, hoopla. And we're minus the Polaris Office which Asus provides as a free extra, which is a long and big minus.
So why install it?
(I'm not a troll, I'm just curious because don't see any reason for all the hype.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Development on CM9, Megatron (CM9 based) and AOKP are all done more real time and ongoing than anything from Asus. They provide better stability, can be developed to accept the Asus stock apps, and introduce new features to your tablet. Nearly all of the added features can be purchased apps instead of integrated for free though. I'd rather donate to one dev doing awesome things than have 1000 apps from different mediocre devs. It's less work for you to optimize and get every ounce of ability out of your tablet. Even with the 201, 101 and 300 all being out and pretty much awesome still even through the first two are "aging", we still get better attention. Maybe not all those thoughts go together.
In my opinion though, my tablet runs smoother on Megatron than it did stock. I have Guevor and Ricardopv working hard from each end supporting this tablet in a way that Asus isn't. I use Kingsoft Office Suite (free and full-functioning) with cloud support for office needs. I play my games, Facebook, Twitter and anything else I can think of pretty much with this thing and don't have to worry about the random reboots at all.
To each their own though. If you don't think you need it, that's cool. I probably didn't need it. I wanted it though. When CM hits a device, even AOKP now, it brings out developers that will usually support a device until it is truly dead. Support a dev and try their wares. Donate.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium