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hey guys. i'm a very nitpicky person and there has been a few "issues" that have been ticking at me lately. i wanted to ask to see if it's an issue with my rom (OMJ v3.1 odex) or just general issues with the phone that I have to live with.
1) for a 1ghz phone, it takes FOREVER to load. i'm usually anywhere from 15 to 45 seconds on the splash screen, after which the boot animation plays and maybe 10-15 seconds after the animation ends the phone starts to load....but it goes into the lock screen, and i have to unlock it, and then a million things start opening up, so that from screen off to fully loaded and ready to make a phone call the phone takes at least 1 minute, sometimes close to 2 minutes.
EDIT: just timed it - 45 seconds on splash screen, 25 seconds from end of boot animation to lock screen
i'm coming from a 667mhz WM6.1 phone that would boot, animation and all, be ready to call in 30 seconds or less.
i can live with the time it takes to load if it was normal...but then I hear things on here on how the evo loads in 8 seconds and i'm looking at mine and wondering what's wrong
is this a rom issue (OMJ v3.1 odex), kernel issue (king's #6), android (2.2), phone in general, or a result of all the different things we install on our phones (adblockers, superuser, custom flash, custom boot, etc)?
2) when the phone loads it always opens the dialer. i go back into home screen. throughout the day at least once or twice the dialer will randomly open on its own when i unlock my screen.
3) wi-fi at home is secured through wep2...but at school is unsecured to connect, but then you need to authenticate through the browser. sometimes this works, sometimes the browser (dolphin hd) just stays loading and doesnt take me to the authetication page...and the only way around is it to disable and enable wifi again. then everything is perfect.
is this a rom issue? or a dolphin hd issue?
4) I have LauncherProPlus with their custom icons from the website. whenever i restart the phone the icons for Dolphin HD, Documents to Go, MixZing and Pandora change to their standard icons. i have to restart launcherpro and they go to the matching icons i have throughout the homescreens. then at random points those three icons revert back to the stock icons, and i have to restart launcher pro.
is this a LP problem, a rom problem, or a me-specific problem?
5) perhaps the most important issue - i have problems downloading and installing certain apps in the market. I paid for lcd density changer and installed it. uninstalled it later on. now i'm trying to reinstall and I keep getting an installation unsuccesful message...same thing goes for Rom Manager (which i have installed, but installation unsuccessful with update), and many others. Some programs will update, some wont. Today I tried to download 3d gallery through the market and keep getting that issue.
this has happened with other programs in the past, where I thought maybe they werent meant for the EVO...but many of those had comments from EVO users??? and now some of those programs that wont install are programs I HAD or I HAVE installed!!!
is this a rom specific issue? or a market issue? or an odex issue? or does it have anything to do with having app2sd and move2sd enabler on the phone? none of the programs in question have been moved to the sd card...obviously not the ones like 3d gallery that I haven't yet installed.
so, thank you for reading through all that. any help in either of the issues will be greatly appreciated.
if most of the issues are rom-related i will go hunting for a new, stable rom. if they're general woes that come with owning the Evo then I guess i need to know that too.
thanks in advance!
I can't really help you much in terms of a solution, but coming from a Blackberry the EVO boot time seems very fast! However, the EVO is definitely not an 8 second loader, I don't know where you got that information.
is this a rom issue (OMJ v3.1 odex), kernel issue (king's #6), android (2.2), phone in general, or a result of all the different things we install on our phones (adblockers, superuser, custom flash, custom boot, etc)?
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This is just a guess, but I'd say it's the ROM you're using. Have you tried anything else? Make a nandroid backup of your phone now, then flash another ROM and test it out, it's easy to revert with the nandroid backup. Keep in mind the first time you load any newly flashed ROM it will take longer than normal to boot.
In my experience, stock 2.2 and all its OTA updates (and the ROM I use that is based on the latest OTA) are pretty good when it comes to boot times. Anything you install may have the potential to slow things down.
I'm currently using the VaelPak 2.2 ROM with the latest HTC kernel (no 30FPS limitation) which is very stable and very fast. VaelPak stripped out some of sense (not all) and I love how you have the choice between HTC/Sense elements or AOSP. For example, I actually like the HTC dialer, messaging, and contacts.
thanks.
i guess i'm going to have to flash a new rom...but it'll have to wait till next week!
i'll look into the different roms but i had thought of flashing CM6 since I'm not using any sense other than the dialer as far as i know
thanks
any other opinions are welcome!
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4) I have LauncherProPlus with their custom icons from the website. whenever i restart the phone the icons for Dolphin HD, Documents to Go, MixZing and Pandora change to their standard icons. i have to restart launcherpro and they go to the matching icons i have throughout the homescreens. then at random points those three icons revert back to the stock icons, and i have to restart launcher pro.
is this a LP problem, a rom problem, or a me-specific problem?
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Are all of those apps saved on your SD Card? I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
yes all four apps are in the sd card. i was using pandora and plugged the phone in to my pc to try to install that 3dgallerym.apk i found on here. pandora stopped (i'm assuming as the sd card was unmounted). after unplugging and the card was remounted i was able to open pandora again...but then the 4 icons had reverted again.
i'm starting to think that is a lp issue. i'll send a message to the developer see what he says about it.
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i'm starting to think that is a lp issue. i'll send a message to the developer see what he says about it.
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FYI they have their own forum. You should see if it has already been answered there.
http://www.launcherpro.com/forum/
The boot up taking so long is do to custom roms being deodexed.. It puts the odex file into the apks so that you can theme a rom without any problems. Stock roms arent deodexed so they boot up a lot faster. Its the only downside to deodexing a rom.
Also you should try to start fresh.. wipe data and dalvik and reboot. Then see if you have a problems with downloading and stuff. It might be cache left on the phone messing it up. If a clean data/dalvik wipe doesnt fix your problems then its most likely the rom or user error. Try a different rom for couple weeks and see if you come across the same problems.
My rom is odexed...
Im going to try cm6 next week most likely...
Swyped from an HTC Evo on MetroPCS...
First off, are you running a task killer or manager? If so, uninstall and reboot. A lot of the time this is the source of problems. Android manages its own tasks quite well. I can go into a lot more details if you'd like about why you shouldn't use one.
If not using a task killer or that did not help....
I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI. Personally, I love Fresh ROM. The dev came from the Hero like me and has a very very good track record for being stable and fixing things. And he is a cool guy.
Install one of those and then post back if you still have problems. I think this will fix it.
BTW did you flash from another ROM and use a backup app to restore? This can cause problems with ROMs that have different settings and options.
As for boot times, like the earlier guy said deodexed ROMs do extra stuff while booting. Also, lots of apps can cause slow boots because they start up on boot. You can use an app to disable them.
And last, app not installing. Hit menu-settings-applications-manage applications. Hit the SD tab and see if those apps show up. If so, click on them and uninstall. This will most like fix that issue.
Post back results here or if you need further help. We will be glad to help.
-Ken
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Pandora has always been glitchy. Its a great service, but they need a new programmer.
8 second phone. I think not. Try the Desire Z (G2), their version of Froyo looks faster.
If your new to the EVO, give it some time. Its a smartphone, and anyone with experience knows that all smartphones are temperamental some times, just like computers.
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Pandora has always been glitchy. Its a great service, but they need a new programmer.
8 second phone. I think not. Try the Desire Z (G2), their version of Froyo looks faster.
If your new to the EVO, give it some time. Its a smartphone, and anyone with experience knows that all smartphones are temperamental some times, just like computers.
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i've been on the evo for a little over a month now getting into it hard...i've learned too much too quickly...but yeah i definitely see the "like computers" temperamental issues at times.
notasimpleway said:
First off, are you running a task killer or manager? If so, uninstall and reboot. A lot of the time this is the source of problems. Android manages its own tasks quite well. I can go into a lot more details if you'd like about why you shouldn't use one.
not using any task manager. used to have advanced task killer but someone else recommended uninstalling it before.
If not using a task killer or that did not help....
I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI. Personally, I love Fresh ROM. The dev came from the Hero like me and has a very very good track record for being stable and fixing things. And he is a cool guy.
im considering CM6 because i barely use any sense apps. mainly flashlight, clock and htc lockscreen. i'm on metropcs so i cant use 4G and i dont have a HDTV so no need for HDMI
Install one of those and then post back if you still have problems. I think this will fix it.
BTW did you flash from another ROM and use a backup app to restore? This can cause problems with ROMs that have different settings and options.
have not done that...and now i know not to do it when i change roms.
As for boot times, like the earlier guy said deodexed ROMs do extra stuff while booting. Also, lots of apps can cause slow boots because they start up on boot. You can use an app to disable them.
And last, app not installing. Hit menu-settings-applications-manage applications. Hit the SD tab and see if those apps show up. If so, click on them and uninstall. This will most like fix that issue.
well the problem is 1) if the app is in my sd card, i dont need to uninstall it, just move it to the phone and then i can update it. but i have over 100 apps installed, it is not practical to do this for every update for every app! 2)some apps, like LCD Density Changer, which I paid and had installed before, wont install at all and i dont have it installed...so what there?
Post back results here or if you need further help. We will be glad to help.
-Ken
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i think i'm definitely changing roms....just have to consider if i want to get a stock rom or go to cm6
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I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI.
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The OP's sig says he has his EVO on MetroPCS; if that's the case then lack of 4G shouldn't be a concern.
That's the only real thing keeping me from trying CM6, even though there are only a few pockets of 4G coverage where I live.
Well I switched roms to ava v9 and some of the issues seem to have gone away...but still having problems installing apps from market...many if the apps and games I had before on my previous rom give an installation unsuccessful message...
Im thinking it may be something I damaged by installing htc and sprint apps right after flashing the rom...I'm going to restore all those files and see what happens...
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Hey all, I'm visiting from the Evo 4G forum. I'm running Team Xron and SwampGoblin Droid X Port. I must say, I am impressed, I have heard negative things about Blur. But after using the device and the ROM, I am impressed at how it works and runs.
Back to topic, I am interested in what files/APKs are safe to remove. I am mostly interested in the System apps, but other files safe to delete would be nice too. I have experimented before, but I get occasional problems, such as when I click on a contact it closes. So I have come before the Droid X-ers for your help.
So, simply put, what files/APKs are safe to delete? I am running Gingerblur, system version 4.5.596.MB810.Verizon.en.US build number 4.5.1_57_DX5-3
Thanks ahead for the help!
To Be Honest with you, for the gingerbread update it seems that motorola incorporated everything together. I have had to SBF back to froyo about 3-4 times, because I've tried to delete a multi-tude of different native apps / system files. If you delete social stuff, it kills contacts, if you delete other items, your screen goes black and you cant do anything lol. just leave it stock untill another good rom comes out for it.
Ah well, the ROM is pretty slimmed down anyways. I just wanted to get rid of email and stuff that I don't use. Thanks for the help, root on!
It can be very frustrating to figure out which Blur apps do what.
I froze about ten of them and would later find that something like airplane mode is broken, or that adding a contact causes a force close.
I wish Motorola were straightforward about the purpose of apps. Trashing cardock shouldn't make me wonder if anything else will go missing with it.
Hey guys and gals,
Just wanted to know if you have Dev rom issues with them working for a while then all of a sudden it either FC on you with super user or installing apps. I have to this point, had a lot of problems with the roms at times. Even when i change the write permissions I've had issues through CWM. I support all the Devs here to making and updating ROMS for the best phone that Tmo has at this point.
Another question is what is the LONGEST rom you have used and had it work for longer than 3+ months? Not only a stable release but a great kernal for batt life and efficient app/program running you have come across? This thread is in no way to put Devs against each other but more to learn on the strengths/weaknesses the MT4G (Glacier) has and how to deal with such issues.
Personally, I feel that all the devs can make a "same export file" for the contacts list instead of gumming up your sd card full of contact info with multiple vcf files of the sort.
One more issue i have is the Super user not being able to update in accordance with the other files on the rom/Device itself, and yet running smoothly without it FC on the rom i'm currently running, which at this time is "Beat Sense".
Do any of you have the same issues as I do or is it just me? Please let me know what you think of this thread and post your finds and issues, both positive and negative. Thanks.
Post updated to reflect current version.
OK.. I'm mainly posting this here because my PC is too low to post in the dev thread.. and I think its best to leave that thread to dev discussion...
First impressions:
Installs quite smoothly and pretty fast.
My install method (in case its needed later)
- Back up and copy to pc
- Complete wipe to stock gb. Root gb and install cwm
- Copy ressurection 8.1 zip to SD card
- Reboot to cwm
- Format data/cache, dalvic cache, system and battery stats
- Reboot to cwm
- Select resurrection 8.1 zip and install. Takes about 5 min
- Reboot to recovery and factory reset (probably not needed but did it to be safe)
- Reboot normally and let system boot up. Takes 3-5 min on first boot
Now on to the fun stuff... on first boot I set up language, clock wifi account etc.
I selected and only use nova... I like it better than trebuchet.
Gmail notification crashes Google accounts right off the bat. This is persistent throughout 3 installs. Seems to work fine after initial crash.
Once SD card scanning and such finishes, i disable fast dormancy (*#*#9900#*#* for menu) thenI reboot normally.
Open market, works fine.. install some primary apps... titanium backup & pro key.. better battery stats, root explorer and LCD density monitor pro.
Set dpi to 160 to give me better screen real estate.. then reboot normally
I'm about 11.5 hours on battery and 83% battery with light to moderate use.. I disable mobile data stuff unless I need it, and generally keep wifi active most of the time..
Overall most things run very smoothly. Some apps don't seem to close properly when killed but I assume its due to those apps.
System does get laggy if a lot of apps are open and sleeping.. I use ATK pretty often to keep things smooth...
Problems I've run in to so far...
This one is pretty big I think... when using flashlight from notification panel, if I leave it on until it times out, my phone completely freezes and I have to long power press to reboot or remove battery to get system rebooted. This is persistent and replicated every time I tried.
Gmail app crashes about 30% of the time. Seems completely random. I'v disabled Gmail notification due to this.. (doesn't crash google accounts like above, just the gmail app)
When holding phone I can feel a very very faint vibration coming from the back side up near the camera.. it pulses about once every 2 seconds. You have to very lightly touch the phone to feel it.. like barely touching it. Not sure if its just mine but its very noticeable if you hold it right. Not sure what's causing this.. doesn't seem to affect anything and phone isn't overheating so I can't give more info...
Random reboots are something everyone is aware of so not commenting there. Nova does hang sometimes for 5-10 seconds. Probably due to this being a dev release and such things are expected.
I'll update more if/when I run in to other issues that people haven't really commented on...
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android.acore process keep FC..really disturbing..
it bcoz of auto sync and i hope someone have a fix on this
I think v8.2 is the best among Westcripts ROMs. because of the least FC.
V.8.3
Flashed since yesterday , very stable , no FC's at all, however there is an USB problem , PC won't recognise the devised the way it was in previous versions. Nevertheless I believe it's a ICS bug as I found same behaviour in other Roms as well.
Not bad so far using 8.3
I noticed in his dev post he said that official ICS doesn't have blue coloured wifi/signal bars but I've used my friends nexus & his definitely has blue coloured wifi/signal bars when in use.
Everything else seems pretty smooth at the moment.
Looks like this problem with blue bars has been resolved in 8.4 Currently downloading (check change log).
Not being funny, but is there not a thread in the Development section to discuss this rom, surely creating another, just fragments the chefs build
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Not being funny, but is there not a thread in the Development section to discuss this rom, surely creating another, just fragments the chefs build
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Would have posted my thoughts there but I don't really want to spam 10 posts just to be able to :/
Downloading/Installing 8.4 now
SMe too.. I have flashed the new version and it seems fine. I haven't checked the GPS yet. What I want from this rom is
T9 dialer in aosp theme
Full screen call id like aosp
Aosp boot
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Not being funny, but is there not a thread in the Development section to discuss this rom, surely creating another, just fragments the chefs build
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Well actually, that thread is supposed to be for development discussion only; not for general Q&A 'how do I do this or that' like it has been. Which means, if people actually adhered to the rules, using this thread for all the 'HALP' posts would likely make development a lot easier for those working on this particular project. The less spam he has to sift through, the more actual development related posts he can focus on.
Not to mention, as I stated in the OP of this thread, I wasn't able to post my bugs there because of my post count.. So i posted them here, along with some other info (like how to install) about the release.
If only everyone who tried to play forum police actually knew what the dev forums are supposed to be for........
no searching for contact when I typing in number in phone, and T9 is not working in v8.4
Do any of u have the issue with notifications having a 'grey background'? I've had this since 8.3.
Also how can I change back to the stock bootanimation?
Thanks.
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Do any of u have the issue with notifications having a 'grey background'? I've had this since 8.3.
Also how can I change back to the stock bootanimation?
Thanks.
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I used a app called ROM toolbox suggested in the dev thread to change the bootanimation to the ICS one.
Notifications come up grey here on 8.4.
cpark85 said:
Do any of u have the issue with notifications having a 'grey background'? I've had this since 8.3.
Also how can I change back to the stock bootanimation?
Thanks.
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No issue with the notifications that I've seen so far on 8.4
To get the Samsung boot animation back, do the following:
if you have 8.3 or an earlier version, extract a copy then navigate to extracted file > system > media
copy bootsamsung.qmg and bootsamsungloop.qmg to your sd card
in root explorer, navigate to your sd card > hit menu and multi select. Select the above to files then click copy/move.
Navigate to /system/media > mount R/W > paste.
Remove bootanimation.zip
set back to R/O and reboot phone.
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no searching for contact when I typing in number in phone, and T9 is not working in v8.4
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Temporary fix posted by kevjef420:
go to market and install these three apps. ex dialer, ex dialer ics theme and ics adw theme by kovdev.
set the ex dialer as your main dialer in dock. open setting for ex dialer and select ics theme. then long click on the ex dialer icon in your dock and click edit and select adw theme pack and then find the ics blue phone icon.
now you have a very functional t9 dialer that is very similar to the miui dialer and it works great. I am very happy with the results. this is a good fix untill somebody comes up with a t9 fix for asop dialer.
I've flashed 8.5 and set language to German but somehow it's a mix of German and English!?!
Anybody with same problem or similar?
Navigation from Google Maps keeps force closing everytime i have GPS signal. Maps works fine. What could it be?
Thanks in advance!
v. 8.6
Just installed 8.6, really fast and smooth. Hour in use, no more process stopped.
I am not sure why but in one app's browser and in stock Android file browser I get unusual wide slider. It was normal on 8.4, but changed on 8.5.
xitake said:
Navigation from Google Maps keeps force closing everytime i have GPS signal. Maps works fine. What could it be?
Thanks in advance!
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Other nav app works
Maybe gapps fix could help here, dunno...
I have some bugs for the Express Rom, maybe someone can shoot it to one of the guys, since I cant post in the dev group.
In landscape mode, click (touch) on the "people" widget and the mail widget will open, if you have a widget next to the "messages" widget, touching the messages widget will go to the app next to it.
Also in Landscape mode looking at the People Favorites/4G widget, the 4G widgets need to be re-sized, as the white blocks are covering the people favorite apps (top left corner)
In "all apps", touch menu button popup you will see weather options, touch snowball and you get a FC
lol was going to post photos but cant do that either lol
how many to go till I can?
ok well those things are minor but thought I would post them
First, I would like to post this in the dev thread but like the OP I am in "10 post purgatory". I am enjoying the ROM - it is the 4th or 5th that I have flashed on the EVO and hands down the best.
I was a little scary waiting for the install to finish 30-35 minutes but patience is a virtue in this case.......
I am running the Express ROM 3.6.1 and had a couple of issues:
The HTC bookmarks uninstall/install issue I fixed by installing the apk posted in the dev thread with root explorer into the data/app_s folder and then changing the permissions to match the rest of the widgets in that folder. re-booted and re-installed the widget - worked perfectly.
The lockscreen apps/weather bug is still a problem for me - even after wiping 3 times, using the wipe.zip, and re-flashing. Tried various wipes and re-flashes and nothing worked, yes I followed the instructions posted in the dev thread for Personalize, Rosie, then Short Cut Lockscreen, then back button and power off, power on - waiting for the RC to fix this.
Have also had issues with ending calls that are answered from the lockscreen or originated in voicemail.
Also, haven't seen anyone else complain of this but the voicemail icon doesn't display the counter with un-viewed voicemails. The mail and messenger icons do have the counters however. Has anyone else seen/fixed this one?
I would love to see some options for modding the clock on the lockscreen - even if it just to change the color.
Edit: forgot to mention I installed the calculator widget on one of the home screens and it centers on the screen. After re-booting it moved to the upper right corner of the screen, uninstalled and re-installed and it goes back to the correct position - odd.
All in all, a great ROM - many thanks to the developers for all the work and the support going on over in the development section.
Hey,
The express rom is a great rom but just like many of the roms out there it is a WIP and the devs know that there all glitches and they are working their buts off to get us amazing roms because the evos developers just take care of us so much better then so many other phones and we are really thankful for them. But since they are still working on it we just need to give them time to work all the bugs out and when it is all done we will have one heck of a rom! We just have to be patient but that is the least we can do for out devs
I hope I helped If I did please hit the thanks!
Stevo
As far as touching a widget and having the app next to it open up, that's what the OP for the rom is referring to when he says 'much resizing needs to be done'. I believe it's because of the resolution differences. Editing M10s is apparently very frustrating and time consuming, as this ROM (or variations of it) has been being worked on for roughly a year , since The_Platypus started it. (There was also someone involved at the very beginning, but I forget who)
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As far as touching a widget and having the app next to it open up, that's what the OP for the rom is referring to when he says 'much resizing needs to be done'. I believe it's because of the resolution differences. Editing M10s is apparently very frustrating and time consuming, as this ROM (or variations of it) has been being worked on for roughly a year , since The_Platypus started it. (There was also someone involved at the very beginning, but I forget who)
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sac23 ported the Flyer originally, I believe, and then justinswidebody was the first one who tried the Express (after my incessant begging, lol). The platty jumped on, if I recall correctly.
Bingo. Yeah, I remembered justinswidebody shortly after posting,....but completely forgot about sac23
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only bug ive seen is the linking people together from my other accs ie facebook twitter tango..... btw dont get the themed one they suck because its someone elses style...so get 3.6.0 and run it with the anthrax og evo4g kernel...ftw
after 2 weeks on the ROM....
The install has started to become somewhat unstable - I am getting random FC's and screen lockups that require me to remove the battery and reboot. After it was first installed, it ran very smoothly except for the known bugs..
At some point I will probably go thru the wipe procedure and re-install to see if it happens again.
I did notice one other issue (probably a re-sizing issue) with the calculator widget. The display truncates in the portrait mode. It displays correctly in horizontal mode, but then the keyboard has the problem of when you push the far left or far right keys, it rotates the display to the next home screen......
one more thing.....
I guess I should re-iterate what I said in post 2 that I love this ROM (3.6.1 themed) and appreciate all the work going on in dev forum. I am just posting these notes because I know that work is ongoing on the RC release and I hope someone will stumble over here and see them.
So here is another observation - The Bluetooth link to the hands free system (Argos) in my MBZ has been acting strange for the last week. It always pairs reliably when I get in the car but it sometimes will not transfer the audio to the vehicle's system (even though the phone and the car both say they are connected. Lately, I have had to manually cycle the Bluetooth off and then back on to get it to work. I have run a few other custom ROMs and not experienced this. For sometime pryor to installing this ROM I was running the Kinged Shooter and then the rooted stock 4.53......
The Argos is Bluetooth 1.2 - not sure if that matters though.
Thanks again for all the hard work.