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Hey all,
I'm definitely a fan of threaded messaging on the Diamond. But the implementation has a few problems, and I've been unable to find any solutions out there. Perhaps someone here knows (or can write!) a solution.
First Problem: when you start a new message, you can see your character count under your text. But as soon as you get to the second line of entry, the count is pushed out of view, and stays there! You have to scroll down (in that tiny box) to see it again. Which brings me to...
Second Problem: History and new message are shown in two separate boxes, with separate scroll bars. It'd be so much nicer if my new message was just being typed at the bottom of history, like a new entry. You could more easily see the entirety of your message as you type it (pushing the history further up, but that's a small loss compared to being able to check for typos before hitting Send.)
Anyone know of improvements out there?
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Second Problem: History and new message are shown in two separate boxes, with separate scroll bars. It'd be so much nicer if my new message was just being typed at the bottom of history, like a new entry. You could more easily see the entirety of your message as you type it (pushing the history further up, but that's a small loss compared to being able to check for typos before hitting Send.)
Anyone know of improvements out there?
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You can avoid the 2nd problem by clicking/touching on the SMS itself inside your TF3D.
That will take you to the history and give you the ability to reply. As opposed to going Menu > Reply. Which starts a blank message.
Don't know if this is really what you mean but
You can make the small new sms typing 'box' larger by..
Open the directory 'Windows' and then click 'File' and choose 'Find Files'
Type 'Thread' into the box and it should find 'thread_sms.htm' after a few seconds.
With 'thread_sms.htm' highlighted click 'File' then 'Edit'.
Scroll down through the file until you find the line
'<Inbox:content id="COMPOSESUBJECT" width="98%" height=35'
Change the value for height from 35 to something more suitable. I did 50, but you can do more if you please.
Once you've done that click 'File' then 'Save'.
Now do a soft reset on the phone, and when it starts up your space for typing a message should be bigger
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This was talked about some time ago... can't remember who said this...
Thank you, at least that gives me some control over it. Ideally the box would start only one line tall, then grow naturally as you type, up to some limit.
Anyway, with its current size, if your message is 3 or more lines tall you can only see the last two lines, and the box is too small to scroll using a finger. Making it larger should help a bit.
Ok, by now you probably know HTC's nice text selection tool. To use it, write some words in a HTC application (like the text message composer), then tap-and-hold somewhere in the text. You get one handle to move around, or two if you want to select a precise part.
But there's more. Change "HKLM/Software/HTC/TextSelection/EnableMagnifier" from 0 to 1. Now activate the text selection tool again as described above and try moving the single handle around...
Nice catch. Can be helpful in tight selections. I've been looking through the reg. So much stuff disabled... Why does HTC do this? They could've placed it as an option on SMS menu...
Thanks. Added to tips thread.
Maybe they disable it so we at XDA have something to do until HSPL is released
Some other simple but cool things I discovered:
* You can use the album app to crop pictures. Just pinch-to-zoom until the part you want fills the screen, then tap the screen, tap the icon on the bottom right and choose the second option from the menu. In Dutch it's called 'Schermafbeelding opslaan'. It will save a cropped copy of your pic.
* Here's a registry entry I found: "HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/InternetPush/EnablePushInternet". It's set to 0 by default. I'm not really interested in push internet, so I haven't experimented with this, but it seems you can enable it if you want.
* Sometimes touch scrolling gets in the way of selecting text. If you want to select text, the solution depends on the context, but to start you just tap-and-hold anywhere:
-- In Opera, you can switch text selection on/off in the context menu;
-- In some apps (like while reading an e-mail message) you get a pop-up menu where the first option is 'make selection' ('selectie maken' on my Dutch device);
-- In Word, just before the pop-up menu appears, you see this: '[T]'. As soon as it appears, move your finger and you'll be able to select text!
* If you like the Footprints app but prefer full size pictures to those square 'polaroids', there's an option to save a full sized copy whenever you create a 'Footprint' (Footprints tab -> Menu -> Settings).
* The 'me' entry in the People app stores your 'owner' info. I know this is widely known by now, partly because I've been posting it everywhere, but I still see so many people complaining they can't register their applications (Resco stuff, SKtools)... because the can't find the old owner info icon. I have registered both Resco Explorer and SKtools perfectly fine without ever bringing the owner info icon back.
I haven't ever been able to get the Text Selection sliders to work on a custom rom even after setting the registry value to 1.
This is an awesome feature and I can't understand why it doesn't work.
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I haven't ever been able to get the Text Selection sliders to work on a custom rom even after setting the registry value to 1.
This is an awesome feature and I can't understand why it doesn't work.
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you know it only works in text messaging, right? (well, some other htc apps too, apparently, but i couldn't name another one i've seen it in)
Yes of course... I'm aware that it only works in the realm of Sense specifically mail and text. I can do the standard selection thing but I just can't seem to get the sliders.
Any ideas?
hmm, well a common mistake I've come across a few times is people not pressing select the first time.
firstly go type some text into a new text message. (not sure where the idea it works in email came from, certainly doesn't on mine.)
ok, press and hold should bring up a cursor and the words "select|select all.
use the single sljder to set the start(or end, whichever) press 'select' nd now a second slider should join the first, enabling you to select.
Thanks for the responses guys, but as it turned out, I didn't realise that Energy ROMs are stripped of the HTC Messaging Module and that seems to be the only place where this 'feature' works.
It's a shame that's it's not available system-wide considering how easy it makes life.
I installed the HTC Messaging Client and voila, it was it there! but that excitement was short lived considering how bad HTC's messaging client is.
hah couldn't agree more. with the magnifier too its great ,, just never gets used.
Typical situation: I have an outlook note (.pwi) file that I keep stored in "my documents" since the pocketpc before my last one, where my WPA TKIP passwords for home and work networks are stored; today I needed to setup the work wifi connection on this hd2.
I open the note, I open the wifi password dialogue, but lo, even if i can select the PSK in the note file and copy it in the clipboard, I cannot paste it to the wifi dialogue, as there is no way to copy/paste text which is outside the scope of the "main" htc apps like mail, sms and such.
There are several empty keys in the second layout of the "symbols" in htc keyboard which could have been filled with useful functions, but none of the buttons in HTC keyboard is able to do the basic cut/copy/paste... either that or I am totally clueless, since hovering the various working keys doesn't come up with any help either (for example hovering the return key in pocketCM keyboard accessed cut/copy/paste).
End of story, I had to switch to home, open taskmanager, switch to note, keep note of some chars, switch to home, open taskmanager, switch to wifi dialogue, write some chars, repeat until PSK is complete. After this I installed the showcase-on-longpress-send cab, but it's still unbelievable that there is no way of having copypaste support in HTC keyboard... and I even like it for the remaining part.
Is there any way to achieve copy/paste functionality feasibly everywhere without recurring to a different keyboard?
I obviously searched the forums here, and the web outside XDA, but to no avail... and I really would like to copy/paste easily everywhere on the HD2 without having to switch keyboards
From within a note, select the text, press and hold the screen, wait for the popup menu to popup with options such as cut, copy, paste and clear.
Jump to the (for example) wifi setup page, press and hold the (example) wep key input box, wait for the popup, you should find only paste is allowed.
Job done.
You might also like this tweak (doesn't work for notes but does for sms and the like)
40. Enable Magnifying Box When Selecting Text
Press and hold your finger on any text in a HTC app such as Messaging and an iphone-esque selection procedure with handles to drag and highlight text will appear. Modify the following registry entry to add a magnifying window as you select and highlight the text. Go to:
HKLM/Software/HTC/TextSelection/EnableMagnifier and change from 0 to 1.
copy/paste
Hi,
I've got the same problem on the wifi interface, impossible to copy/paste. On all other screens it's ok but not there (on the HTC HD2)
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From within a note, select the text, press and hold the screen, wait for the popup menu to popup with options such as cut, copy, paste and clear.
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That's what I did
Jump to the (for example) wifi setup page, press and hold the (example) wep key input box, wait for the popup, you should find only paste is allowed.
Job done.
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...not quite, alas! That's what I did, no popup for that dialogue. Maybe it's because, as a password field, it is cosidered "unsafe" to have copy/paste funzionality.
But still, even if it HAD the popup on finger-hold, it would still be a shameful missing capability in any other dialogue (and I've had this problem several other times with this HD2, the wifi was just the last I remembered... no popup-on-hold menu for copy/paste in the window I needed it in, and no function at all in the keyboard for copy/paste.
must be a rom thing then, because I tested it before I posted. (I even dug out my old htc touch to create the note)
opened the note, selected the text, pressed and held the selected text, chose copy from the popup, jumped to the wifi screen, taped the wep key box to put the cursor there, pressed and held, popup appeared with everything greyed out except the paste option, chose paste and a row of stars appear in the wep field.
gonna do it again now to test again, ill edit if I find anything different.
Edit - ahhh ok, i see now, you can't paste into the HTC wifi screen with the green signal strength bar below the network key entry field, but you CAN paste into the winmo wifi advanced screen.
So, you turn on wifi, it finds a network, (shown on the screen with the wifi toggle at the top, networks listed below) click advanced, change network, and select the network from there. The 'configure wireless network' screen appears, click next to get to the authentication page, and you will find if you press and hold the network key box (after unticking ''the key is automatic'' of course ) you will get a popup with paste enabled.
You can also get to those settings pages by going settings - menu - all settings - connections - wifi - advanced.
uhmmmm JayFR appears to have the same symptoms. I am running on ax*lor rom, which is 2.02 and manila 1921, plust 6.5.2, a frequent combo in custom roms.
Still... without necessarily focusing on the wifi key dialogue, I am convinced a copy/paste update to the keyboard is in order, as I recall 100% having had the same problem with missing copy/paste-on-hold popups before elsewhere on this phone...
So, you turn on wifi, it finds a network, (shown on teh screen with teh wifi toggle at the top, networks listed below) click advanced, change network, and select the network from there. The 'configure wireless network' screen appears, click next to get to the authentication page, and you will find if you press and hold the network key box (after unticking ''the key is automatic'' of course ) you will get a popup with paste enabled.
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thanks for the workaround Yet, don't you think that copy/paste SHOULD be integrated in the keyboard through some hold-popup maybe, like accented letters or symbols? <waves hand in the air in jedi fashion>
Oh absolutely, yes, but then i use swype keyboard, where it does have those functions, so i haven't really had any problems to make me notice the lack of function on the default keyboard.
I see :-/ Either I change keyboard, or maybe someone is able to point me to a solution that doesn't involve that?
Possible solution
Try Resco Keyboard. It's not free, but some skins have a ctrl key, that means you can use the ctrl-c and ctrl-v keycombo's like you would on a desktop PC.
Same goes for ctrl-a, ctrl-x etc.
It takes some practice to use the small keys without stylus, but I now can use it with my thumb. I've had it since my wizard. And everywhere else you can use the built-in keyboard.
If you use it a lot it may be worth the steep price ($20)
check here: http://www.resco.net/competition/default.aspx
Thank you for the input, yet spending 20$ to have copy/paste is out of my scope... especially considering that it should be one of the basic function for a SIP. Like saying that you need to pay for another electricity contract because your current one allows you to power almost everything, BUT xmas tree lights I'd rather complain with the service company (which I did on HTC site BTW) instead of paying more to have a more lively festivity!
give "finger keyboard" a try. free and written by an xda dev plus has cutcopypaste as press and hold keys along with arrows home end .com uk and such like. looks nice too.
By using QuickMenu you can have the copy, cut and paste.
Goto QuickMenu option, General tab, tick "Long-press win logo", select "Text edit".
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give "finger keyboard" a try. free and written by an xda dev plus has cutcopypaste as press and hold keys along with arrows home end .com uk and such like. looks nice too.
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that's in fact what I used on my old ipaq, and the first thing I'll be installing if nothing else but changing SIP helps
cayotte said:
By using QuickMenu you can have the copy, cut and paste.
Goto QuickMenu option, General tab, tick "Long-press win logo", select "Text edit".
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I did download and install "quickmenu for hd2", thanks for your suggestion! Now that's something. Maybe overrated to install all that just to have copypaste function, yet it works.
After all, for 55kb of occupied ram, and1-2% of CPU only when doing something with it, it's a good deal!
Which also came useful in another occasion where copy/paste was missing from keyboard: editing file names from within total commander... sweet!
Is there a way that you can select text by dragging your finger over text and highlighting it??
ive somehow manage to do it before but now i cant seem to get it to work anymore??
any help would be nice
What ROM are you using? It varies between them I think. You can find out the ROM version by looking in Settings>About Phone>Software Information>ROM Version.
On mine (Artemis 15.5) you hold down on some text and it gives you a menu and two drag-select handles to select a region with. On the HTC stock ROM I think it was more a tap+drag thing, then long tap on the selected text.
im using nrg titanium rom without the htc sense. i can hold on the text and select make a selection but i would jsut rather drag my finger on the text and select but it doesnt do it.
Hello guys,
I got my N4 today, very pleased.
I dont think there is a way to PASTE your smart clips. I see a way to share them and to add them to a scrapbook, but not paste.
I was sure I saw something like that in some demo?
The manual does not mention if/how that can be done,
Any success with that out there?
tx
Mark.
Select the text
Hit the T button on the selction.
Tap the Share button
Pick "Copy to Clipboard" from the Share via popup.
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Select the text
Hit the T button on the selction.
Tap the Share button
Pick "Copy to Clipboard" from the Share via popup.
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Hi
Thanks for the response, but there is no such option to Copy to Clipboard.
If there is no option search playstore ...there was an app that forced copy to clipboard to be an option...especially useful for YouTube.
xManMythLegend said:
If there is no option search playstore ...there was an app that forced copy to clipboard to be an option...especially useful for YouTube.
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yeah, I did that before I posted here.
The clipboard paste apps I found there are about COPYING multiple items to that clipboard, but which does not tie in with Smart Select - so you can't copy smart selected elements to those apps, only things which have the COPY contextual menu as an option, like when you select text and have a copy option.
Nothing I have found allows you to copy a "smart selection" set of items to the clipboard. In fact I don't know if this would make sense on an android system level... the "smart selection" may not use the android clipboard at all... so there may not be any solution unless Samsung makes it possible.
Mark
fredphoesh said:
Hello guys,
I got my N4 today, very pleased.
I dont think there is a way to PASTE your smart clips. I see a way to share them and to add them to a scrapbook, but not paste.
I was sure I saw something like that in some demo?
The manual does not mention if/how that can be done,
Any success with that out there?
tx
Mark.
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If you open a note and use the edit in s-note icon in the lower right-hand corner, you can just drag one or more items from the collection to the note.
Maris_ said:
If you open a note and use the edit in s-note icon in the lower right-hand corner, you can just drag one or more items from the collection to the note.
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Hi
Open a note?
What note?
I have some smart select items I want to paste into an email I am replying to.... and there is no "note" I am working on, and there is no icon anywhere to drag to that email I am replying to...
Seems this is how I would use it, and it does not work like that... you can create a new email but not add to a reply or add clips to an existing document.
fredphoesh said:
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Open a note?
What note?
I have some smart select items I want to paste into an email I am replying to.... and there is no "note" I am working on, and there is no icon anywhere to drag to that email I am replying to...
Seems this is how I would use it, and it does not work like that... you can create a new email but not add to a reply or add clips to an existing document.
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If you don't want to save it to a note, but email instead, it still works the same. Save your selected item (s) to a collection using that little collections icon then open your new email message. If you have more than one item in the collection, tap on the down triangle at the bottom of the collection box, select the item you want to place in the email, and just drag it over. It will place the text in the spot you drag it to.
When you are done placing the text or image. You can drag the collection box towards the top of the screen and a trashcan appears. Drag it to the trashcan and it deletes the collection.
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Save your selected item (s) to a collection using that little collections icon then open your new email message. If you have more than one item in the collection, tap on the down triangle at the bottom of the collection box, select the item you want to place in the email, and just drag it over. It will place the text in the spot you drag it to.
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nope
that does not work.
try it.
try smart copy a couple of icons off your desktop and try paste that in gmail. I copied the phone icon, the message icon and app drawer icons as one image file, and when I drag and drop that to gmail, I get "[email protected]" instead of the image of the three icons!
This only works with TEXT but not with photos. Photos result in some gobbledygook nonsense word.
It works via drag n drop with the stock email app. With Gmail you need to use the share button and pick gmail. They will in both cases be sent as attachments to the email you send.
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It doesn't work on Gmail, only if you create a new message. If it's an existing message you're responding to, there is no way to use smart select.
It works as an attachment so you have to save the images first if you want to attach them in Gmail to a reply. I just tested it. I used Share>ES Save To to save the selection as a png to the download directory. (I have ES File Explorer so that shows up in the share list) Then open your Gmail item and attach it from there.
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Well adding attachments to Gmail is something any phone can do... As I am trying to point out, Smart Select cannot paste the contents to an existing gmail, you have to save it first, then attach manually from gmail... Not particularly fast, unique or convenient.
You have to add the attachments to gmail one at a time
The text "Smart Selections" are attached purely as images (no OCR)
So Smart Select is great for Evernote, Google Keep or Samsungs note taking apps, but not for existing Gmails! Saving to Drive also saves text smart selections as images instead of OCR text & images.
Mark.
Well I think Smart Select is a bit of a misnomer. It works by automating the process of saving the selections to png files so you can share them. That's just how it works.
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Well I think Smart Select is a bit of a misnomer. It works by automating the process of saving the selections to png files so you can share them. That's just how it works.
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the main part is multiple clipboard copying of BOTH images AND text simultaneously.
It also does OCR of text in images
SADLY with "copy to clipboard" missing as a sharing option, the inability to paste to any app that can paste images and text simultaneously, like gmail, is missing.
I've been trying to figure this out too. I have found a different way of selecting items into the clipboard. I use image clip instead of smart select. Then I hit the share button in the top right. And it automatically copies the item to the clipboard.
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And from there, if you need it to be square there's an option to do so in the top left corner
sangvann said:
I've been trying to figure this out too. I have found a different way of selecting items into the clipboard. I use image clip instead of smart select. Then I hit the share button in the top right. And it automatically copies the item to the clipboardr
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Hmm
when I go to Share , and then choose none of the options and then go to Gmail and press to get contextual menu, there is no paste that comes up... so nothing gets copied into the clipboard. What steps did you take?
Even if it did, that would be one image at a time... which is ok, but not quite the nifty thing SmartSelect could be if it could copy all pix and text to clipboard!
Mark