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[Alpha] PPC-RC (need some help too ;))

Alright, So I have this Universal, and I love it. Then one day, I figured that it shows a certain resemblance to something else...
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See the resemblance?
A keyboard?
Two extra keys?
A touch-pad/touch-screen?
So I figured, why am I still ****ing with this media center keyboard and it's silly joystick-for-mouse thing? I got a full fledged remote control as a phone!
After two days and a lot of stupid windowing and socket coding later, I had a semi working app
I've attached it here. It's still alpha, so only download if you want to test, it's not ready for real usage yet
What it does at this point? You can move the mouse, but it will be pretty jerky, and you can type
What is still to do?
- Proper protocol, not some dumb-ass dynamic package size ****
- Soft keys -> mouse buttons
- Proper server application, system tray icon and all
- Password protection
- Some more neat features
- Maybe some features people recommend
How does it work? run PPCRCServerTest.exe on your PC, and run PPCRCClient.exe on your device. tap the screen, enter IP or hostname (for some reason hostnames only seem to look up if connected through activesync...), and hit connect. Once it says "Connected", start typing and moving touching your screen
Also, please note that for some reason WiFi seems to be faster than ActiveSync. I have no idea why, but it just does... odd uh?
So what do I need back in return?
- Feedback
- How on EARTH to know when a soft-key is pressed and released
That's pretty much it
Remember, just a little preview, not ready for real use yet!
Bye,
TB

Hi TheBlasphemer.
I don't have a uni, but your app still sounds pretty neat.
Here's something that might help you alone (if you haven't found it yourself yet):
There is a function called SetWindowsHookEx. I haven't played with it much, but I know it lets you hook the keyboard (all of it) and handle all key events up / down. If I am not mistaken it returns the address of the previous function so you can delegate the keys you don't want to handle back to the system. Kind of like window subclassing.
Now all you need is some debug prints to figure out what VK codes respond to the soft keys and you are done.
Good luck!

levenum said:
Hi TheBlasphemer.
I don't have a uni, but your app still sounds pretty neat.
Here's something that might help you alone (if you haven't found it yourself yet):
There is a function called SetWindowsHookEx. I haven't played with it much, but I know it lets you hook the keyboard (all of it) and handle all key events up / down. If I am not mistaken it returns the address of the previous function so you can delegate the keys you don't want to handle back to the system. Kind of like window subclassing.
Now all you need is some debug prints to figure out what VK codes respond to the soft keys and you are done.
Good luck!
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Actually as my window is the top window, I already receive all key events through WM_KEYDOWN and WM_KEYUP, so there's no need for windows hooks and stuff
I have looked into what happens when someone presses a softkey, but I only seem to get two weird keyup events when I release it :S (VK 112+16 and VK 113 + 16). I could use these, but as I could only see when they're clicked, I would only be able to do mouse clicks, not dragging
Btw, it should also work on other PPCs, like the wizard

Hi
Just tried on my BA WM5. It connects (it says connected on the PC server) then it closes the connection immediatelly for a reason. But this looks like a promising app so I'll keep on tracking it...
P.S: Do you plan to release the source code? (I'm a beginner programmer, examples are always good )

TapTap Keyboard - write without stylus!

Hello all,
maybe many of you tryed my previous application for SMS writing TapTapSMS and maybe you like this new way of text inputing. So here is NEW native SIP (software keyboard) for your PocketPC (all resolutions - WM5, 6, 6.1, 6.5 and 6.5.3). I must mention that you must get used to this new technology because it differs a lot from the classic PC-like input method. It's because standard PocketPC (without hardware keyboard) differs a lot from the classic PC. So enough about it... try it!
P/S: It chanced that I found a THIEF who stole my technology without any word that I'M THE AUTHOR OF THIS UNIQUE TYPING METHOD: http://tikilabs.com/app/tikinotes/
UPDATE1: VGA version available
UPDATE2: New black skin!
UPDATE3: Fixed missing equal char ("=") and some other chars added.
UPDATE4: Fixed uninstall problem.
UPDATE5: Now supporting custom layouts and skins.
UPDATE6: I have added new US/German optimized layout to customize section.
UPDATE7: Added two new panels (navigation panel & basic operations panel).
UPDATE8: Added HVGA version.
Screens:
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Download:
http://www.taptapkeyb.ic.cz
Instal to your PDA device NOT to your card!

bkf1,
i tried ur keyboard and find its the right screen size. only thing i don't like its the repetitive taping to choose a letter. it would be better if u make one tap and give options kinna like T9.

Hi, idea is quite interesting. Is possible to create it as SIP? So it's usable with others programs, not just writing SMS?

Hundera said:
Hi, idea is quite interesting. Is possible to create it as SIP? So it's usable with others programs, not just writing SMS?
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I'm sorry. It is SIP. At first I clicked at TapTapSMS link. Really good work

right, as a SIP and with word completion/suggestion/correction and skinning it would be very nice. I write a lot on my device but hardly any SMS

TO Hundera:

UPDATE: VGA versions (low/high resolution) available!

please a request
can someone put a cab file here? thanks in advace

I have already downloaded them If you want VGA version with high-res graphics you must download it from my site Use any downloader (e.g. Download Accelerator, DownThemAll (Firefox plugin), etc.).

New black skin... !!!

Big BMP images replaced with small PNG images... so now it's smaller especially the VGA version...

I'll try this out and report back. Thank you.

It's freezing Sorry to you all I must replace it with previous version

UPDATE: Fixed uninstall problem.

Suggestion
I like your app.
i suggest that after tapping a letter i prefer that we stay at the same group of letters and if we want to change another group we tap on the back button thanks.

While long-term testing I have found out that I need to use chars from other char panels more frequently than from currently selected char panel. Anyway thanks for your suggestion

thanks for your answer.

Great idea but I must admit I had thought of a similar method myself but lack the time or patience to implement myself, so I figure i'll see if you want to do anything with it
Same idea, click on a group of letters and it brings them up larger, but instead of grouping a,b,c,d,e etc into 1 group, why not group it as it appears on a standard keyboard? it'd be more intuitive for most people as the same keys are found in the same general area as a normal keyboard...
So have what looks like the normal WM keyboard on the screen, but have thicker lines seperating the different groups. So left of the keyboard can be the letters q,w,e,r,a,s,d,z,x then have t,y,f,g,h,c,v,b,n as the next group followed by u,i,o,j,k,l,m or something along those lines? Basically it has the user looking for certain keys in the same places as there already used to.
It's just a thought but a good one I think personally though others may not agree

It is definitely very precise.
While I like this aspect of it I do like the idea of a qwerty layout however.

Believe me I have tried the QERTY layout (btw there are only 7 keys, the 8th is for ENTER) but typing with it is very hard to learn (remember a,b,c,d,e,f,g it's much more easier than e.g. q,w,e,r,t,y,u). It's because this keyboard HAS NOTHING COMMON with the other keyboards. This is completelly new original type method.

[NEW] K's Touch PCM Keyboard Skin & Layout

Here's my PCM Touch Keyboard. The keyboard has HTC Symbol pad's symbols fully integrated into it. By holding down certain keys for 250ms, you'd be able to toggle certain symbols. For example, holding down "a" will show all the "a" accents. Holding down "spacebar" will show common browser shortcuts, and etc etc.
*I don't know why the first picture looks brighter than the others...*
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Holding down the numbers will also toggle some symbols. These are usually symbols that are listed on your ordinary full size keyboard. For example,
1=~, !
[email protected]
3=$ (and various $ signs)
5=%
As you can see, I have also included some ghetto smileys into the mode button tapping the mode button doesn't change anything as there's only 2 modes in this keyboard (caps lock and lower case - double tap shift to toggle between them). However, holding down the mode button will show some commonly used symbols found at the lower portion of a keyboard.
The keyboard is based on the English layout. If you native language is not English, simply change the first two lines of the layout to the layout you commonly use. Everything else should work regardless of the base layout.
Installation is simple, just toss both files into Program Files\PCM Keyboard, select the layout and skin from pcm keyboard option and you are done.
BEFORE INSTALLATION
-open up the layout file with notepad, and replace this line:
symbol_pad=0,)-_+±
There's an extra "-" in the original layout file as seen in picture.
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sir.... looks good but couldnt try coz the file is corrupt....

Looks good, but do you still need to update the PCM Keyboard every now and then? Because the PCM Keyboard has "expired date" which is really annoying.
I would rather to pay (even in this beta version) rather than having to visit the site, download, uninstall, reinstall, etc. etc.

I'm not sure if 0.12 still expires....I'm actually rather new to PCM Keyboard...I skinned it because I wanted a better keyboard to be used with my touch style rom...and the touch xt9 keyboard/keypad is a pita.....
Well, I hope you guys like it, you can easily customize the keyboard layout file to show whatever symbols you want when you hold down a key

Wow! wonder ful. I like it...

I like the look. Its my new skin.
Shouldn't it be "http://" instead of "http:\\"?
Also i could never figure out why on the skins they always have the "'" key above the backspace instead of something like the ".". I don't use hte "'" key as much as I do ".". I usually just change it in the layout file myself.

Is it possible to have a button to switch screen orientation?
Jem777

Really nice, i usually use the PhonePad, but with these nice tweaks u've done 2 it i'll 4sure give it a try...
Thanx for a great work

As noted above, the zip file seems to be corrupt. Downloads okay but won't open.

The current version of PCMK, v.12, is set to expire on Jan 15 or thereabouts. So, yes, it still does expire. I agree it is a bit annoying. But the keyboard is generally great with the rigth skin. I prefer the other "refined" one to this. This is complete, but the buttons are too small IMO. Still both are nice. Different strokes for different folks.

jomo25 said:
The current version of PCMK, v.12, is set to expire on Jan 15 or thereabouts. So, yes, it still does expire. I agree it is a bit annoying. But the keyboard is generally great with the rigth skin. I prefer the other "refined" one to this. This is complete, but the buttons are too small IMO. Still both are nice. Different strokes for different folks.
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Here is a link to the "refined" thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349647
I was curious how this layout would look with my black iphone skin... So if you like BIG keys and this layout, you can select K's layout and one of the iphone skins from my thread above. The screen shot is of this configuration.
Good work K! I like some of your shortcuts.

Here is my skin and layout...

the bigger keyboard is nice. I'd skin it with the touch look later

Just wanted to see a side by side comparison.

is it just me because when holding down "spacebar" will show common browser shortcuts etc... nothing happens??

gfreek said:
is it just me because when holding down "spacebar" will show common browser shortcuts etc... nothing happens??
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@ gfreek,
Does this work?
klmsu19 said:
-If you press the internet explorer key you will get "http://www."
-If you press and hold the internet explorer key you can choose: https://, .net, .org, .com or www."
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CORRUPT ?????????
bassett said:
As noted above, the zip file seems to be corrupt. Downloads okay but won't open.
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I opened the corrupt file in notepad and saw that is in fact a ".RAR" that was renamed to ".ZIP", why?, I don't know...
Just rename the file ext. from ".zip" back to ".rar" and it should work 100 %
Great skin dude...

You don't have to Unistall, reinstall thingy, just change the date to whatever before 15/Jan-08 and it will work..
gogol said:
Looks good, but do you still need to update the PCM Keyboard every now and then? Because the PCM Keyboard has "expired date" which is really annoying.
I would rather to pay (even in this beta version) rather than having to visit the site, download, uninstall, reinstall, etc. etc.
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jem777 said:
Is it possible to have a button to switch screen orientation?
Jem777
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no biggie.
you can assign camera button to rotate the screen.
setting - button - <rotate screen>
works like a charm for me.

do you have keyboard skin whick looks like an ordinary phone keypad?. i just got used to it already when messaging.
please help kin0kin.

[Q] Trying to understand / remap hardware keys

I'm probably going to get a Z but one thing that puts me off it is I want to use it for things like coding HTML / CSS and it would be useful to have quick access to < > keys but looking at the key layout it just has ( ) keys:
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But.... There is a SYM key as well as a FN key. Does that mean that some keys will have three functions, 1. default 2. FN and 3 . SYM?
Or will the SYM button bring up a list of symbols on the software keyboard to insert?
Ideally I would be able to remap ( ) to < >, could that be possible?

If it's anything like the TP2 (which I imagine it is), then the SYM key (which was accessed by pressing the FN key and another button), allows you to choose a symbol from a list shown on the screen... Sorry

Im pretty sure they could be mapped once rooted I'll look through a dump for you

[Q] Add extra keys to the hardware keyboard?
Is there a way that I can add the keys ">" and "<" to my hardware keyboard? I'm looking to see if I can add those to the two shortcut keys if possible but they only allow me to put programs on them..
I was also thinking a "Menu + N" and "Menu + M" for the two symbols but I'm not sure if that's possible either.
If that all doesn't work.. can I just add the symbols to the SYM menu? There's so few keys in that SYM menu it's actually a bit disappointing.
Thanks!

FireGX said:
Is there a way that I can add the keys ">" and "<" to my hardware keyboard? I'm looking to see if I can add those to the two shortcut keys if possible but they only allow me to put programs on them..
I was also thinking a "Menu + N" and "Menu + M" for the two symbols but I'm not sure if that's possible either.
If that all doesn't work.. can I just add the symbols to the SYM menu? There's so few keys in that SYM menu it's actually a bit disappointing.
Thanks!
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Hi! Spaniard here. I received my Z two days ago and I'm really enjoying it. However, being Spanish I need characters such as ¿ or ¡ in the hardware keyboard. I've tried every conceivable key combination, with no luck.
Does anybody know how to get those keys? Thank you in advance.

anything new in remaping?
Hi did you get any further in this? I really would like to get arrows (left and right at least) to hardware keyboard -

I've been exploring this, partly for flash games but also it would be nice to long-press the top row of keys to get numbers, rather than the alternate character menu. I've only seen old attempts on the g1, apparently its a tricky process.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

As far as i remember you can access < and > by longpressing ( and ). It was mentioned somewhere here in the forum.

You cannot long press ) on the Desire Z to get GT or LT. To my knowledge there's no way save collapsing the hardware keyboard and using the softkeys.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Hmm that's strange, they left out two of the main keys. It's annoying to keep reverting to soft keyboard. I think i'll email htc so that they include it in the long-press key list in the next update.

Yeah. I doesn't make any sense, because when you long press lots of keys you get an on screen menu to select the symbol you want to insert (such as á, é, ñ...). But if you long press ? the only thing you get is ????????????? instead of a menu.
Well, at least I'm glad to know that it can't be done, I thought it was possible and I was unable to find how
I'm thinking about switching to a G2 ROM, since it seems they can get whatever symbol they want, don't they?

Mmm... it seems that in the G2 forum they have been able to modify the default keymap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837002
Would something like this be possible for the Desire Z?

reycat said:
Mmm... it seems that in the G2 forum they have been able to modify the default keymap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837002
Would something like this be possible for the Desire Z?
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Yeah, because they're basically the same phone (just different radio bands). I don't know if the exact same method will work on the DZ ROM, but it must be pretty close if not the same.

Mm... I don't know the first thing about Android, but having a look at the /system/usr/keychars directory I can see there are a lot of different files, besides the vision-keypad.kcm.bin. I'm quite interested in vision-keypad-esn.kcm.bin, since it seems to have something to do with Spanish
There's also a vision-keypad-esn.kll in /system/usr/keylayout.
Does anybody a way of trying to "activate" this files? I'm leaning to try to replace the vision-keypad.kl and vision-keypad.kcm.bin files with the "esn" ones, but wouldn't like to break something.

[BOUNTY][PAID] null keyboard w/ toggle widget on-screen (soft) keyboard

i have a mini Bt keyboard for my cappy, hate the on-screen (soft key) keyboard poping up when a hardware keyboard is present.
ive seen many people looking around for this too, IM WILLING TO PAY!
a simple way to "possibly" do this,
for win mo they had a "null keyboard" (blank keyboard) that could be installed and switched to, to "hide" it.
a widget that will toggle input method could accomplish this if with a blank keyboard to install as well.
other thoughts...
something else i came accross dont know if it helpls..
http://www.androidsnippets.com/how-to-remove-focus-and-hide-the-on-screen-keyboard
So far I will personnaly put up $10, anyone else want to sweeten the pot? PAID!!

Done!
Install it and you will get an extra Keyboard "Null Keyboard v2".
Select it as input method and your good to go .
Let me know if it works.
First one is just the Keyboard
The second one is the Keyboard + Widget
Edit: Added 2nd version with Widget.

Done! it works, money SENT!,
i just have some suggestions for re-finement, so its nice and pollished!
i see the widget isnt necessary as you can long click any dialog box to bring up the "select input method" window. however, could you make the widget bring up that selection window instead of locale and text?
and on first "placing" widget on desktop, a pop-up comes up telling you to enable NullKey2 in "local and text".
as far as function, i have no more suggestions, maybe color options? you could select a color in the same window that pops up (i suggested) to tell user to enable in local and text...
with those changes it would definately be worth .99 at least on Android market.

for anyone following this thread, it is still under very quick development and all further versions will be available on the market from Dark3n !
here is a screenshot of the latest version (my personal name version)
this should be in the market next month according to Dark3n.
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now on market!!!!!!
https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.thedarken.nkv2&feature=search_result

Trusselo said:
i have a mini Bt keyboard for my cappy, hate the on-screen (soft key) keyboard poping up when a hardware keyboard is present.
ive seen many people looking around for this too, IM WILLING TO PAY!
a simple way to "possibly" do this,
for win mo they had a "null keyboard" (blank keyboard) that could be installed and switched to, to "hide" it.
a widget that will toggle input method could accomplish this if with a blank keyboard to install as well.
other thoughts...
something else i came accross dont know if it helpls..
http://www.androidsnippets.com/how-to-remove-focus-and-hide-the-on-screen-keyboard
So far I will personnaly put up $10, anyone else want to sweeten the pot?
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What BT keyboard are you using? I'm considering buying one. Thanks.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

mini bt keyboard from ebay and my logitech dinovo edge from my pc.

Trusselo said:
now on market!!!!!!
https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.thedarken.nkv2&feature=search_result
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Might want to point out it's the creator who is selling it. I was a bit confused at first
Neat idea for an app though. Kudos to both you guys.

the creator usually does sell their work. and was stated he would. there arent many pages to follow...

Trusselo said:
the creator usually does sell their work. and was stated he would. there arent many pages to follow...
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As yes, my appologies -- I missed it next to your 500 ft screenshot
Still, take the compliment and chillax. Was just saying it was confusing at first glance. It's a cool app and idea.

Dark3n said:
Done!
Install it and you will get an extra Keyboard "Null Keyboard v2".
Select it as input method and your good to go .
Let me know if it works.
First one is just the Keyboard
The second one is the Keyboard + Widget
Edit: Added 2nd version with Widget.
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Is there any way to disable the blank area from coming up?

try PM ing him and are you using the market version or the tester version in this thread?
and what blank area?

hey that mini keyboard you posted a few pages back looks freakin AWESOME.
Do you have any more information on it by chance besides 'mini bt keyboard' from eBay?
and does it come out of that case?

yup right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926600&page=3
page 3 and 4

Would it be feasible to add the possibility to still have the dictionary prediction/correction for what you type with the external keyboard while using Null Keyboard?