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So I am tempted to get the mytouch HD, and just wanted to get some pros and cons from you guys.
Pros:
-Faster Internet (HSPA+)
-Better Processor
-Front facing camera
-A little bit larger screen 3.8, No amoled though I guess
Cons:
-Slower to get updates
-no color trackball notifications
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Con: design and material looks pretty toyish
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No tempation at all; if you go to the store and play with a mytouch slide you'll see. The mytouch series of phones are a joke. The genius button is such a waste of space.
pro: 768MB of RAM
I agree the finish of the myTouch Slide leaves much to be desired, but to me it is still not as bad as the Vibrant. Also, the Engadget mobile podcast mentioned the finish on the new myTouch is much nicer (aluminum battery cover/etc) than previous generations.
We still don't know for sure which CPU/GPU combo is inside, but I feel like it is still a decent upgrade from the Nexus (before new phones next year). Also, the touch panel on the Nexus is driving me insane - I hope they used a nicer one on the myTouch.
At this point in time anything that is coming out to the market is going to better than the nexus one because its been awhile and the n1 is showing its age.
However the nexus one is still a very capable phone and should be a good performer until the dualies come out.
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I have to agree with niftydl. This phone will be much nicer than prior MyTouch phones. That being said, I'm sure it'll still have nasty Espresso... that and the stupid Genius button taint the device for me.
Actually holding the phone at a store, I was pretty impressed with the device. Sure it has a Genius button instead of a standard search button on the Nexus, but I RARELY use the actual search button vs the google search bar widget.
The Design is hit or miss. While I like the materials, being a rubberized border around the sides and a metal battery cover, the buttons are ugly. But physical buttons might not be a bad idea. I know sometimes it takes a few hits to actually get the touch controls on the nexus. It also has a dedicated camera button which is a plus.
Nasty Launcher (which is pretty fugly) should be easily replaceable with Launcher Pro which is what I use on my Nexus.
But the phone feels very stout. Very durable. After seeing FaceTime on my friends iPhones I realized while its nice, I'd never use it now but it's still pretty cool. I feel more and more phones are going to start introducing front facing cams now so its a welcome feature.
The screen is nice but not AMOLED (SLCD). Still looks good.
The larger screen, bigger processor, bigger screen. Seems like a winner.
I'd miss the trackball LED's on my Nexus and the AMOLED deep contrast colors. Gingerbread more then likely hitting the Nexus One first.
I don't know much of the MyTouch brand. Some of them come with a "Sense" feel so are they created by HTC? If so are they prone to unlocking, Rooting, and rom swapping?
Also I'm not thinking in terms of a Nexus One replacement... but lets say your Nexus died and you needed a phone. Would you choose this?
At $70 on contract only a week after release, for anyone looking to jump into Android, this phone is an absolute STEAL.
http://www.wirefly.com/search/all/mytouch 4g/
I have no idea how Wirefly ($70) and Amazon ($80) can get such low prices for such a new device.
That being said, I'd only use one if there was a stock FroYo ROM for it. But since it has been perma-rooted, that will probably come quick.
However, for a Nexus to MyTouch 4G sidegrade, you'd have to be downright INSANE. The benefits are so tiny, and add the fact that the Nexus S is on the nearby horizon, and you'd be crazy to switch from the N1 to the MT4G.
Con: Espresso
I when to buy the MyTouch at T-mobile store but I started playing with it and it changed my mind.
I really don't see myself going to a phone without soft keys like the nexus has. I really didn't like the feeling of regular keys at all.
just wondering. i can pick one up locally. brand new, for 250.
why do you guys stay with the nexus since it is not made any longer and what do you love about it?
also..hows the battery life compated to a galexyS phone? ( i have the vibrant)
Personally it's because newer devices haven't offered me anything which I really want/need. I am tempted to go with a HC tablet which will give me access to Tegra2 specific apps/games which is all I feel I'm missing when comparing the N1 to newer handsets. It also runs CM (Never mind the plethora of other ROMs) and trackball alert really is hard to beat once you get used to it
i had one right when it came out. there were no roms really yet for it and it was on 2.1 i think...i cant remember how "fast" it was..i do remember i liked the screen, but im concered about battery life..
i LOVED how thin the phoen was...
dvigue said:
i had one right when it came out. there were no roms really yet for it and it was on 2.1 i think...i cant remember how "fast" it was..i do remember i liked the screen, but im concered about battery life..
i LOVED how thin the phoen was...
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I get great battery life but it will obviously depend on the user. A combo of setcpu and a decent kernel will definitely help extend the battery. I found that ROMs really kicked off when Froyo hit. Although it has slowed over the past few months the N1 still has great support, especially considering it's nearly 18 months old.
$5 internet and Roms
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$5 internet and Roms
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what do you mean??? $5
because no other device so far has the same build quality, materials, sexy work-of-art look and feel of the nexus one. plus no other phone has color trackball alert to set ANY notification to ANY color you want. just glance at my phone, blue-new twitter, red-new gmail, yellow-missed call, etc. that is just a necessity once you have it, and not a single other phone is coming out with even a regular notification light, let alone colored.
plus the nexus one is the size of perfection, not so big monsters like these other phones lately. and it still has the amoled screen, not great in the sun, and not as good as super amoled, but all the same indoors.
i just cant find something to replace my nexus one with
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because no other device so far has the same build quality, materials, sexy work-of-art look and feel of the nexus one. plus no other phone has color trackball alert to set ANY notification to ANY color you want. just glance at my phone, blue-new twitter, red-new gmail, yellow-missed call, etc. that is just a necessity once you have it, and not a single other phone is coming out with even a regular notification light, let alone colored.
plus the nexus one is the size of perfection, not so big monsters like these other phones lately. and it still has the amoled screen, not great in the sun, and not as good as super amoled, but all the same indoors.
i just cant find something to replace my nexus one with
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would you consider the screen the same as like a galexy S phone? crisp/sharpness wise?
i am a HUGE rom flasher, so i think i would benefit from a phone like the N1
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would you consider the screen the same as like a galexy S phone? crisp/sharpness wise?
i am a HUGE rom flasher, so i think i would benefit from a phone like the N1
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it IS in fact teh same screen as the galaxy s, both screens are from samsung. both screens use the same pentile matrix pixel layout. the only difference is the galaxy s has super amoled which means the touch layer and glass layer is merged together to produce thinner glass area. the nexus one has the traditional tiny gap. indoors booth look nearly the same (nexus one is sharper because same resolution but 3.7 inch screen. the galaxy s pixels are more visible). outdoors in sunshine is where the galaxy s might be easier to see the screen.
also, not a single other android device exists that has the desk top dock and car dock. that makes the nexus one the full package that no other android device has.
of course the nexus one has the touch screen bug, cant do more than 2 finger inputs, and has the glitch issue. so its a tough call to buy it now. since its probably only 200 dollars i'd say its a no brainer. but not 500 dollars lol.
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it IS in fact teh same screen as the galaxy s, both screens are from samsung. both screens use the same pentile matrix pixel layout. the only difference is the galaxy s has super amoled which means the touch layer and glass layer is merged together to produce thinner glass area. the nexus one has the traditional tiny gap. indoors booth look nearly the same (nexus one is sharper because same resolution but 3.7 inch screen. the galaxy s pixels are more visible). outdoors in sunshine is where the galaxy s might be easier to see the screen.
also, not a single other android device exists that has the desk top dock and car dock. that makes the nexus one the full package that no other android device has.
of course the nexus one has the touch screen bug, cant do more than 2 finger inputs, and has the glitch issue. so its a tough call to buy it now. since its probably only 200 dollars i'd say its a no brainer. but not 500 dollars lol.
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whats the "glitch" issue? also, is the screen nice and responsive?
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whats the "glitch" issue? also, is the screen nice and responsive?
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Every now and than (1-2 times a day for me) the screen calibration gets borked. So if you touch one spot it reads a few mm away sometimes it thinks your touching the soft keys. The way to "fix" the issue is to shut off the screen than wake it up again.
Thats the only issue I've had. Personally waiting for the HTC Sensation or the next Nexus variant to upgrade.
Free (so far) wireless tethering.
Although I am looking at upgrading to the HTC Sensation 4G when it comes out in June.
I love the n1 because it can do everything i use it for and its still a very responsive phone. I pay 15$ for a grandfathered unlimited data plan from att so until theres a superphone available that can do all mine can do plus more and on att(since im not interested in changing cell providers) then im not really in the new phone market.
i use mine for internet access on the road for work like a the airport for instance.
reference for research for anything and everywhere.
navigation for work and play
music streaming from my home pc with subsonic(fantastic app)
music playing locally while in the car
music music music
reminders and email for work
communication with co-workers and friends via trillian on msn/gtalk/aim/facebook
timewaster and newsreader for my google reader feeds
i dont play many games but the ones i do work decent enough
only drawbacks i see with it is the multitouch, like others have said it will think youre touching the bottom menu buttons for some reason, usually i run into this after i had docked it and undocked it or it had been charging. you can kind of reproduce it if youre movinga touch point in the top left of the screen and then tap towards the lower to mid-right. if you have a multi-touch test app you will see it thinking your finger drops straight down. you get used to it though, i dont mind it too much anymore. being able to rotate the map would be nice like on the vibrant but the two finger perpendicular slide to rotate isnt so bad. I still love my n1 a lot more than my girlfriend's vibrant which is tainted by the samsung ui overlay nonsense. give me aosp or give me death.
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whats the "glitch" issue? also, is the screen nice and responsive?
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the glitch is every once in a while the screen thinks you touched a different spot. this happens about once a week for me, mostly less than that. its easy to fix, just lock the phone then swipe to unlock, the issue goes away for another week lol. but it IS a hardware issue that can never be fixed, so we just live with it.
other than that i think the screen is just fine for responsive. probably not the best in the world, but its good to me. touch a spot and it registers immediately.
I love my sexy nexyyyyyy!!!! I like trackball that's why i keep my N1.
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It's a great Developer device for those who like Flashing!
I'm keeping mine for now to see what the Pyramid looks like when released...
I can get a brand new one unopened for 250 in town....
As a vibrant, vibrant 4g, n1 owner ...the build quality of the n1 is awesome. Just tits when compared to plastics.
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1) Community Support
2) Lighted Trackball - it's a lifesaver during meetings!
3) Incredibly pocket-able..thin/light/resilient
4) It's unique - and it's not a Samsung/Moto device!
XDA is no longer worth my time.
I'm thinking of trading my Vibrant to someone for a HD2. I was wondering if there are any specific questions or areas of interest i should know about.
Dan_Brutal? You are leaving the Vibrant as well?
But back on topic, the only major issue with the HD2 is probably the dead digitizer issue where repreated use of the power button will break the ribbon connecting the touchscreen (power button sits directly above it). It is probably a good idea to get one with HTC warranty still intact.
As for speed, the Vibrant and HD2 on Android are about the same. The GPU on the Vibrant is much better so the Gingerbread launcher will be much much smoother. The HD2 has a glitch with multitouch while gaming where the screen will go crazy when detecting two points on the same horizontal axis (driver issues).
The screen quality on the Vibrant is definitely better, but for web browsing the larger screen on the HD2 wins. Keep in mind that blacks will resemble more of a dark gray and that viewing angles are fairly poor on the HD2. I personally did not notice a difference between the Pentile on the Vibrant and the RGB stripe matrix on the HD2.
The Vibrant's camera is better, no comparison.
And as you know, the HD2 can dual boot (select from WM, Android, and/or WP7).
Unless you are getting a good deal of cash with the trade, then it probably isn't worth it right now. You may as well keep the Vibrant and wait for the Nexus 3.
I have to say I know absolutely nothing about the Vibrant but I noticed shortly after it was released a huge number showed up on Craig's List in my area, not usually a good sign.
I have a HD2, it's an OK phone as is, better with an Android NAND IMHO.
As always, YMMV.
HD2 is an great device if you like to tinker.. Not the best hardware available for a phone right now but probably the most flexible (as in running various platforms) device ever made by HTC.
For those who have the Samsung Galaxy III or planning to pick one up when it comes out, what is one CON about the SG3 that would make you NOT want to buy the GS3 or return it to the stores and wait or exchange for a different phone?
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Had it just over 2 days now, can't can't really find anything that would make me not want to buy it. If anything, and can be argued, the strength of the screen. Though again, I still bought it, so no real cons from me.
I think my only real concern would be future updates. But that's about it for me.
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teh roxxorz said:
Had it just over 2 days now, can't can't really find anything that would make me not want to buy it. If anything, and can be argued, the strength of the screen. Though again, I still bought it, so no real cons from me.
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Strength of the screen? Huh?
It looks like a piece of jewelry the glass of the screen. Kinda like One X international or ATT.
I'm actually surprised but this samoled HD is actually better than the one GN in terms of pixelation (less pixelation here). But there's a noticeable black color contrast issue compared to, say, Epic Touch black contrast - the blacks were completely black on ET, whereas with this screen, they aren't quite as black.
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Strength of the screen? Huh?
It looks like a piece of jewelry the glass of the screen. Kinda like One X international or ATT.
I'm actually surprised but this samoled HD is actually better than the one GN in terms of pixelation (less pixelation here). But there's a noticeable black color contrast issue compared to, say, Epic Touch black contrast - the blacks were completely black on ET, whereas with this screen, they aren't quite as black.
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I noticed the color contrast as well, but its so minute, to me at least. i say the strength arguable, cuz some like it, some don't, i'm personally satisfied my G S III. //not present condition.
teh roxxorz said:
I noticed the color contrast as well, but its so minute, to me at least. i say the strength arguable, cuz some like it, some don't, i'm personally satisfied my G S III. //not present condition.
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What is strength of screen?
Its all about personal taste and the phone you are planning to replace. If your current phone is better than the GS3, then stick with it.
I don't have mine yet but the deal breaker for me is the email client ..see how well it works with exchange server and the user experience. Not sure I like black background and white text in the email client either? I am a heavy corporate mail user...
I'm only issue is not having lte in my area yet but hopefully it won't be long
after using it for the past 3 days, the only gripe I have is how fragile it feels. I couldnt see this thing functioning properly after a few falls of 3 ft or more
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For those who have the Samsung Galaxy III or planning to pick one up when it comes out, what is one CON about the SG3 that would make you NOT want to buy the GS3 or return it to the stores and wait or exchange for a different phone?
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I had a hard time choosing this phone over the EVO LTE. I picked it because I thought it would have better developer support than the EVO LTE since I saw a lot of OG EVO devs jump ship to SGSIII.
However, the screen is much dimmer than the EVO's. It was way harder to see in sunlight compared to the EVO. It also feels a bit more slippery and fragile, and lacks HD Voice and a kickstand compared to EVO LTE. Still, it is a very top notch phone.
No deal breaker for Me
I love this thing .
Fast great Battery and Sammy dropped the source.
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Hopefully mine gets shipped this week (order the 32GB), but my biggest concerns at this point are: camera quality, screen pixelation, Wi-Fi/data/voice signal strength. The last one is my biggest concern- I've never had an Android Samsung phone that has performed well in this area from the Moment--> Epic --> NS4G, they've all had very poor reception. If the GS3 is plagued with this same issue I will swap it for the EVOLTE or await a new phone purchase until the fall/winter.
This phone is no more fragile than the S2 was. Put it in some kind of case (TPU for me) and you're fine.
E-Mail client works excellent with Exchange. I get 20-50 emails a day and have had no problem, Setup was a breeze.
Reception on this phone is identical to the dbm levels I had on the EVO LTE. WIFI is far superior as it actually connects and doesn't hang up all the time when loading. GPS is nearly instantaneous, even indoors.
As far as the screen goes...the EVO at max was way to bright for my eyes, even in bright daylight. For me anyway, the S3 screen turned up is just right outdoors....course I don't purposely try and stand in screaming bright daylight just to try it out and worry myself over it. There is no pixelation I can see, unlike the Motorola Pentile screens which drove me nuts.
I far prefer the colors and contrast of the S3 screen to that of the EVO. I honestly see know signs of the dreaded Pentile effects and even reading text on the internet it is sharp as can be. By the way...reading text for my eyes is much easier on this phone as the text is darker due to the black levels vs the grayish text on the EVO LTE.
This shape phone fits my hands perfetly whereas the EVO with the full rectangle and square corners was a bit to industrial and not comfortable in my hand.
Lastly, if the "plastic / polycarbonate" body of the S2 with a TPU on it was any indication of the resiliency of this phone considering the number of times I dropped the S2, I haven't even the slightest worry unless it falls glass down on a rock. If you drop any of these and it lands on the corner without some kind of shock absorbing case, you are pretty much screwed.
the only thing really bugging me is that Sprint's 3G is impossibly slow. my Galaxy S II was a great phone and still had WiMax.
by the time Sprint rolls out LTE in the LA area (end of the year at the earliest) there will likely be a newer, better phone.
the SGS III is AMAZING! screen is beautiful, it feels great in the hand, it is FAST and on WiFi is a phone I wouldn't trade for anything out there. the problem comes when you are not within range of wifi.
that's not this phones fault and is not a defect of the phone just unfortunate timing that I will have to wait about 6 months to use it on a high speed mobile network.
WiMax is no where near as fast as LTE but it is way way faster than Sprints 3G.
I have 28 more days to decide how much this bugs me and how likely it is that there will be a better Android phone available when Sprint finally flips the switch on LTE.
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Reception on this phone is identical to the dbm levels I had on the EVO LTE. WIFI is far superior as it actually connects and doesn't hang up all the time when loading. GPS is nearly instantaneous, even indoors.
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Unfortunately this isn't necessarily an indication of improvement on Samsung's part because the HTC One X series has been reported to have low quality/weak reception. The Samsung radios didn't improve to be as good as those in HTC but quite the opposite, HTC's are now as bad as Samsung's. This would be the reason that I would not get the EVOLTE instead and would rather wait til fall/winter. Bottom line though, if it proves to be a non-issue then I will keep the phone.
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after using it for the past 3 days, the only gripe I have is how fragile it feels. I couldnt see this thing functioning properly after a few falls of 3 ft or more
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Already dropped it 3 times from over 3 ft with out a case or screen protector. passed with flying colors.
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Hopefully mine gets shipped this week (order the 32GB), but my biggest concerns at this point are: camera quality, screen pixelation, Wi-Fi/data/voice signal strength..
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Signal strength seems to be passable, but there is definitely pixelation on the screen. You don't even need good eyesight to notice it on white pages. It's a little jarring for me compared to the EVO LTE's screen but it's not a dealbreaker.
GPS was also my biggest gripe with Samsung, being that me & wife road trip a lot. The GPS is outstanding for me on the GS3. I couldn't be happier.
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Already dropped it 3 times from over 3 ft with out a case or screen protector. passed with flying colors.
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Damn, dropsy. You need to tether your phone to your wrist!
... Not enough to make me regret my purchase of the HTC One.
My previous phone was a S3, which I absolutely loved and had me seriously excited about the S4. However, holding the one I knew which one to go for. Had my one for about 2 weeks now, and I love it but had that niggling worry that I'd regret my decision.
Today, that worry was cleared up.
The Samsung rep visited us today with an s4. and I got to play with it for a short while. Yes, the ability to interact with the screen without touching it is pretty cool, but apart from the lock screen I started getting frustrated with it (kept touching the screen). The health app is very nice, and laid out really well, but like many of the other features, its just not something I need or want.
The actual UI felt laggy, like it was running slower that 24fps. Switching through home pages on both devices at the same time and it just looked smoother on the One. The Samsung rep said he felt otherwise but he is paid to say that
The screen on the S4, in my opinion is much nicer than the one on my One. Granted, the One has quite a dark coloured interface and the S4 has a very colourful vibrant interface, but I just felt the colours were much more alive than on the One.
The build quality is nice on the S4, with all completely uniform gaps around the device, where as the one has gaps etc. However, the S4 does indeed feel cheap to hold. The texture of the plastic doesn't feel amazing, the weight is nice but just lacks that... premium feel.
I know most of these points (if not all) have been covered on reviews etc. but I thought it might be nice to put my 2 pence in as a HTC One owner and previous Samsung user. I do not regret my purchase and still feel I have bought the better device for my own needs and wants.
raty
cool story bro
For balance just to say my One has no gaps, perfect build.
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Post on s4 forums .
To be fair I'd love a display with a bezel like the S4 but wouldn't sacrifice the quality of the screen in the One for a S4 display.
The thing is..the screen on the S4 is OLED so the colours will look far more vibrant but, they wont be accurate and its a pentile display. I am quite keen to get my hands on an S4 just to see what its like.
I would say the HTC One is like a Rolls Royce Phantom and the S4 like a Nissan GTR.
Goof choice. I was on deciding which phone to get for a month. Chose the HTC one . Boom sound is awesome. Sense is pretttyyyyy compared to touchwiz. For 649 vs 750 for a s4, it was a no brainer for me. Also im going to sell hundreds of s4 throughout this year anyways lol
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I would say the HTC One is like a Rolls Royce Phantom and the S4 like a Nissan GTR.
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I hope note as I would prefer the GTR
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Some nice info there mate! I think the only thing i prefer on the S4 is the AMOLED display.
Can i ask a question? Before i do, i know the S4 has improved ALOT on the PPI on the display, however, when i had the S3 i also had my One X, when holding them together, the screen on the One X was such much clearer! Much harder to see the Pixels, but on the S3 the pixels stood out like a sore thumb? Was this something you noticed on the S4 compared to the One? Or have they dramatically improved on this and its now similar to HTC? This is something i would like to know.
My HTC One has no gaps at all.
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Some nice info there mate! I think the only thing i prefer on the S4 is the AMOLED display.
Can i ask a question? Before i do, i know the S4 has improved ALOT on the PPI on the display, however, when i had the S3 i also had my One X, when holding them together, the screen on the One X was such much clearer! Much harder to see the Pixels, but on the S3 the pixels stood out like a sore thumb? Was this something you noticed on the S4 compared to the One? Or have they dramatically improved on this and its now similar to HTC? This is something i would like to know.
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I was curious about this too, as I had hopes AMOLED had been improved. But honestly I see the same flaws as on earlier iterations:
Dirty whites (turquoise), even in film mode (early measurements reported accurate color temperature, but if you look at it, it is clear that RGB balance is off) - most colorimeters can't measure OLED correctly.
Quite a bit dimmer than the best LCD displays
Discoloration with off axis viewing
Are you sure you prefer the AMOLED screen? I have had an AMOLED for the last 2 years and I can't look at them anymore. AMOLED were OK when LCD's were dimmer, but now the gap is huge.
Honestly, if you can, try browsing the same web pages in parallel on the S4 and the One. It is literally "night and day". It doesn't need to be outdoor. Even in the store the HTC One's screen strikes you as the more vibrant one. I will likely be measuring the S4's screen myself because I don't believe those early measurements that showed a 6500K color temperature. The screen has a green push even in film mode...
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The actual UI felt laggy, like it was running slower that 24fps. Switching through home pages on both devices at the same time and it just looked smoother on the One. The Samsung rep said he felt otherwise but he is paid to say that
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I also saw that!!! I was very surprised by this considering my S2 had a smooth experience. I don't know if the overclocking created voltage throttling but it was as you said, laggy and reminded me of the HTC One X when it first started. The browsing experience was horrible.
Are people here actually really paying attention to the S4 screen characteristics?
Firstly, pentile is IRRELEVANT at this PPI.
Second, colour accuracy is good and excellent in the Adobe RGB and Movie modes respectively. Whites are FAR more accurate than the HTC One.
Maximum brightness is less than the One, however sunlight legibility is essentially equivalent due to decreased screen reflectance.
Some fresh reading at Display Mate about it, for those who aren't satisfied with the several 'early' measurements taken by a number of sites.
I know everyone in this forum wants to straight up believe the HTC One has a far superior screen, but it just ain't so folks. Don't get me wrong, the One also has a truly excellent screen, but I just don't see its screen as being a selling point or differentiator in comparison to the S4 screen (neither do I think the S4 screen should be used as a rationale to buy an S4 over an HTC, they're both excellent).
The new oled screen in the S4 is amazingly good. It's actually far superior to the S3 screen.
I played with it on Sunday and I like it.
It's really nice and it will definately sell really well. I love the fact that they added easy mode. This will be such a great way to get noobies to switch to a smartphone($$).
I still prefer the One and I hope it does well. I feel like the One is meant for a different type of user. Samsung is for the mass and the HTC is for those who care.
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Are people here actually really paying attention to the S4 screen characteristics?
Firstly, pentile is IRRELEVANT at this PPI.
Second, colour accuracy is good and excellent in the Adobe RGB and Movie modes respectively. Whites are FAR more accurate than the HTC One.
Maximum brightness is less than the One, however sunlight legibility is essentially equivalent due to decreased screen reflectance.
Some fresh reading at Display Mate about it, for those who aren't satisfied with the several 'early' measurements taken by a number of sites.
I know everyone in this forum wants to straight up believe the HTC One has a far superior screen, but it just ain't so folks. Don't get me wrong, the One also has a truly excellent screen, but I just don't see its screen as being a selling point or differentiator in comparison to the S4 screen (neither do I think the S4 screen should be used as a rationale to buy an S4 over an HTC, they're both excellent).
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I have seen the display mate contribution. I like their approach but I don't agree with their conclusions (and it should be noted they have been fierce promoters of OLED displays since the Galaxy S came about).
For one, they fail to mention that even though the measured white color temperature is close to 6500K, the whites actually suffer from greenish cast - so pentile does matter, as there is a discoloration depending on how you look at the screen, and sadly, looking straight at the screen shows a turquoise veil whereas looking more from the side seemed to clean the screen a little from its dirty whites.
Second, the auto-adjust brightness feature taxes the battery so much that no one in their right mind will use it on the go.
When measuring pentile OLED displays it is important to note:
The orientation of the meter has an impact on the measurement, especially on screens with asymmetric structure such as pentile screens...this is something that I would like to quantify on the S4 when I get a chance
Colorimeters will not measure OLED displays correctly out of the box (this point is not relevant here, though, because I think Displaymate used CS-200 spectrophotometer)
So the theory is one thing, but the practice is completely different story. Please believe me that when I saw the measurements made by Displaymate and others I was quite enthusiastic (my S2 does not track as accurately). But while testing both screens in a real life situation, it became very clear to me the AMOLED screen did not live up to its alleged qualities, even in film mode.
Regarding peak brightness, HTC One also has an adaptative brightness mechanism with peak brightness at 530cd/m², but in daily use it is more around 460cd/m². Regardless, the lack of brightness is not totally offset by the better reflectance value, so OLED displays still are poorer performers outdoor and it is even worse indoor under moderate lightning as the S4 does not tap into its peak brightness at any time...
So my question to you. Have you been to a shop to compare both devices and if so, can you in good faith maintain that the HTC One's display does not trounce the S4's AMOLED? The difference was shocking to me. At first I thought it was down to my particular unit but seeing as someone is reporting the same experience, I think this is the screen as it is on any S4 device.
hello00 said:
cool story bro
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wow really?
NZtechfreak said:
Are people here actually really paying attention to the S4 screen characteristics?
Firstly, pentile is IRRELEVANT at this PPI.
Second, colour accuracy is good and excellent in the Adobe RGB and Movie modes respectively. Whites are FAR more accurate than the HTC One.
Maximum brightness is less than the One, however sunlight legibility is essentially equivalent due to decreased screen reflectance.
Some fresh reading at Display Mate about it, for those who aren't satisfied with the several 'early' measurements taken by a number of sites.
I know everyone in this forum wants to straight up believe the HTC One has a far superior screen, but it just ain't so folks. Don't get me wrong, the One also has a truly excellent screen, but I just don't see its screen as being a selling point or differentiator in comparison to the S4 screen (neither do I think the S4 screen should be used as a rationale to buy an S4 over an HTC, they're both excellent).
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That's true, I wouldn't even bother nitpicking on S4's screen. The only concern could be AMOLED tends to deteriorate faster(which is impossible to tell right now), otherwise I don't see a big con on S4 screen. I feel more comfortable with LCD but hey , a well-calibrated AMOLED isn't bad at all. it's just about preference.
Honestly, if anyone could tell a difference between 440/460 ppi, or even 720p/1080p on a phone, and I'll consider you the "God's eye". I got a phone with 330 ppi (darn it was good at that time) three months ago, and I could not easily tell the difference from my nexus7(~220ppi).
puremind said:
So my question to you. Have you been to a shop to compare both devices and if so, can you in good faith maintain that the HTC One's display does not trounce the S4's AMOLED? The difference was shocking to me. At first I thought it was down to my particular unit but seeing as someone is reporting the same experience, I think this is the screen as it is on any S4 device.
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Hopefully tomorrow! I'm meant to be getting my HTC One this afternoon unless Fedex fails me (usually they are very reliable here in NZ, so I'm hoping not). I get my S4 tomorrow.
NZtechfreak said:
Are people here actually really paying attention to the S4 screen characteristics?
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Don't forget the common issue with ugly screen burn in that most people experience with AMOLED from Samsung, pretty big issue as its a matter of when not if and sometimes happening inside of a month, don't even need your screen on for this to happen.
Noidea why this hasn't been mentioned and really should be on the side of the box as a warning.
patato2 said:
That's true, I wouldn't even bother nitpicking on S4's screen. The only concern could be AMOLED tends to deteriorate faster(which is impossible to tell right now), otherwise I don't see a big con on S4 screen. I feel more comfortable with LCD but hey , a well-calibrated AMOLED isn't bad at all. it's just about preference.
Honestly, if anyone could tell a difference between 440/460 ppi, or even 720p/1080p on a phone, and I'll consider you the "God's eye". I got a phone with 330 ppi (darn it was good at that time) three months ago, and I could not easily tell the difference from my nexus7(~220ppi).
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Pentile doesn't matter so much because of resolution but more because of the greenish discoloration it produces. Dynamic or Film mode has no impact, it is just an inherent flaw. Sure you can get used to it but you come back to an LCD screen you realize what you have been missing out on.