Email/Sense? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok, so I've been trying out a bunch of different ROMS. Despite a bunch of reading, I'm still not really sure what "sense" is, or what the difference is between versions (or how to know which version I'm on). Seems like it's basically some UI stuff and eye candy with the launcher, with a couple of custom apps. While I don't care about most of the UI stuff (and the non-sense ROMS seem faster/more customizable anyways), the mail app is a showstopper for me. The sense email app seems much better than the stock android one (I assume that's what I'm using on the non-sense ROMs).
1. From what I've read, there's no way to get a sense app on a non-sense ROM, right?
2. Barring that, here's what I need from an email app. Haven't been able to find it yet:
a) combine multiple accounts
b) view unread messages only
c) select all messages
d) push
Anything solutions out there (if there's a way to do "b" and "c" on the stock app, I'd love to know about it)? I don't want to forward everything to my gmail acct.

the android gmail account lets you open multiple gmail accounts, works for me since the only 2 email accounts i use are both gmail, one for personal and one for school

Email on Sense is FAR better than stock Android. In fact, stock Android (including offspring like CM and MIUI) Email is almost total crap.
Nothing to do about it. Either use Sense ROM or use special Email app like Touchdown.

One thing I like most about sense version of mail app is the ability to set peak and off-peak sync frequencies.
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[Updated:2011-02-24] 1x1 Ultimate Unread Widget (Sense + Vanilla + Motoblur)

The app is finally done and in the Market (1x1 Ultimate Unread Widget), and supports many more features than I expected when it started Thanks for all the input everyone! Here's the release with more screenshots/features, etc: http://nowsci.com/ultimateunreadwidget
Features Include:
Support for Vanilla E-mail Client
Support for HTC E-mail Client
Support for MotoBlur E-mail Client
Multi-folder select
Allows for multiple instances of the widget with different folder settings for each
Saves battery by only updating when the screen is turned on
Changelog:
v07
Fixed a large scale permissions issue causing the application to not find accounts or update unread counts
Now works in most new ROMs, including custom ROMs such as CyanogenMod7
v05 - v06
Internal Code Enhancements
v04
MotoBlur Email Support
v03
HTC Sense Support
Stock Android Email Support
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Hey Everyone,
I'm about to release this into the Market, but wanted some preliminary input. I've noticed a lot of people in forums requesting a 1x1 unread e-mail widget for those running HTC Sense and the included mail application. I've completed a widget that does this, though unfortunately it requires Root because it must open some of the HTC Sense databases. It shows a compiled total of all unread mail in all inboxes. When clicked, it opens the HTC Mail reader to it's last state.
[[ To be clear, this works with ALL E-mail accounts, Exchange, POP, IMAP, etc. Not just GMail like many of the other widgets out there now. ]]
I was originally planning to make the widget support a single inbox at a time, so you could run a different instance of the widget with a different icon for each of your mail accounts, but after going through the HTC dex files, I'm not sure how I could have it call up a specific mail account when clicked on.
Also, I've yet to determine how HTC signals their own widget to update the counts. Until I figure that out, it currently updates whenever the screen is turned on.
Thoughts, input, suggestions?
Thanks.
I've actually created a version to work with the stock email reader as well.
I currently have an "Gmail Unread Count" or something widget on Sense which does exactly this, very customizable (choose what icon etc) and I don't have root access.
Fmstrat said:
I've actually created a version to work with the stock email reader as well.
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I am extremely interested in this.
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Snowtoad23 said:
I currently have an "Gmail Unread Count" or something widget on Sense which does exactly this, very customizable (choose what icon etc) and I don't have root access.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this only grabs the "Gmail" unread counts, not other accounts you're syncing through the phone, right?
Fmstrat said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this only grabs the "Gmail" unread counts, not other accounts you're syncing through the phone, right?
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You are correct... only gmail
Fmstrat said:
I've actually created a version to work with the stock email reader as well.
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Mind if I test it ?
I would be interested in this too.
Any chance you could also add an option to only make it count unread mail for a certain label. And then have multiple instances of the widget so it's easy to monitor said labels.
Would happily test and pay for it as it is a feature many people have been yearning for.
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I would be interested in this too.
Any chance you could also add an option to only make it count unread mail for a certain label. And then have multiple instances of the widget so it's easy to monitor said labels.
Would happily test and pay for it as it is a feature many people have been yearning for.
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This is a great idea. I'll look into this. Thanks!
Testing shouldn't be necessary, I've got a few different phones I'm trying it out on. I'll throw it up in the market soon, and put a post here when it's there.
You're a star! Thanks so much
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@Fmstrat
that qould be great. I'm also very interested in this widget
Will this be available on additional launchers instead of just Sense? I am using an Evo but have Launcher Pro as my default home. I do miss the count on the Sense widget, but not enough to switch back.
jedwardmiller said:
Will this be available on additional launchers instead of just Sense? I am using an Evo but have Launcher Pro as my default home. I do miss the count on the Sense widget, but not enough to switch back.
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Does Launcher Pro have it's own email client? This Widget is based specifically on the client. For instance, I'm running Sense, but have installed the stock vanilla 2.2 email client through an APK. I then run the Vanilla version of the widget for the stock email client, OR I can run the Sense version for the HTC client.
Thanks.
@FMstrat
Are my PMs reaching you?
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@FMstrat
Are my PMs reaching you?
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Yup, just responded. Thanks.
Also very interested in this. Have found that Androids lack of good email widgets and apps to be very disappointing. Gmail Unread Count is good but is very tempremental about how many accounts it can handle. Cuurentlt I'm rocking 3 Gmail accounts & a MS Exchange account. This app would be greatly appreciated
squire23 said:
Also very interested in this. Have found that Androids lack of good email widgets and apps to be very disappointing. Gmail Unread Count is good but is very tempremental about how many accounts it can handle. Cuurentlt I'm rocking 3 Gmail accounts & a MS Exchange account. This app would be greatly appreciated
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How do you have them all set up? 1 in the Gmail app, 2 in IMAP? All in one? etc. I may want you to do a test run for me before I release if you don't mind, as that's a pretty extreme case.
Thanks!
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How do you have them all set up? 1 in the Gmail app, 2 in IMAP? All in one? etc. I may want you to do a test run for me before I release if you don't mind, as that's a pretty extreme case.
Thanks!
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Yeah.
Gmail Unread App - use this for my main personal Gmail account
HTC Stock Email App - use this for the other 2 Gmail accounts (1 business / 1 forums/eBay) + my current MS Exchange account
It's cumbersome to say the least. The HTC Stock Email app is okay but to be honest it's slow, not very user-friendly & looks crap. I thought I might be able to split the accounts easily with Gmail Unread app but I find that really is very difficult to add an 2nd account not to mind a 3rd. Sometimes it'll work but more often than not - it won't.
Using Android 2.1 on HTC Legend. Not rooted (no need!).
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Using Android 2.1 on HTC Legend. Not rooted (no need!).
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Unfortunately root is required for this widget to read HTC's mail database. If you're willing to root, I haven't had a Sense 2.1 tester yet.
Thanks.
I just wanted to give everyone an update since it's been a while (I was traveling last week, and will be again next week). I'm applying for the Market and adding in code for Licensing and Versioning now. The widget will be released very soon after that, and has been renamed 1x1 Ultimate Unread Widget. I will post again with a market link when it's out.
If there are any other mail readers people would like added for phase 2, such as K9, or any other features, such as icon switching, or changing the update frequency, let me know. The more requests (public, no PM please) for an item, the higher I will place it in the list.
Thanks again for the interest.

[Q] CM6 and Exchange

I'd like to know about other people's experiences with CM6 and Exchange. With the stock email app, I have noticed at times that at times it would start using a lot of cpu, and stop receiving emails. I did have "all email" sync, but these issues would happen randomly after all of my mailbox was downloaded; could this have anything to do with it? I would have to reboot my phone for email to start working again. After reading about people's experience in the CM6 thread I thought it might be appropriate to have an altogether separate thread. I did notice some users having similar issues, and that TouchDown is a good alternative.
So about 2 weeks ago, I started trying it. Problem is, when I go to add a contact (discovered this by long pressing a number to create a contact), it will let me create a "TouchDown contact", but only with names. I contacted touchdown support and they said that no other applications can have access to TouchDown data for "security". I did put in a feature request for an optional contacts integration, because my Aria is a work phone, and every contact I add I *need* synced. I did think about adding contacts to Google account, and then installing Google/Outlook sync on my work pc, but this seems too convoluted.
Has CM6 exchange improved in any of the nightly builds? If I choose to go back to the stock email app, is there any way that if I run into these issues again I can provide debugging information? The only thing I really liked about TouchDown was the search email feature, but this is in no way a feature request for the stock email app. xD
Why not ask in the cm6 thread instead of starting a new one?
I've been using stock exchange mail client since the beginning of CM6 on aria, haven't ran into any major issues with it. The only problem I have with it is that sometimes the deleted email on aria still show up on desktop outlook.
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Just wanted to add that stock client does stop getting emails ( very rarely for me), instead of rebooting, I just forse close the app and restart it again.
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For adding/syncing contacts (using touchdown for email) I added the exchange account (under stock email settings) and set it to never check mail, but still sync contacts and calendar. I am going to see if this combination with touchdown works, as the email app is required to run if syncing exchange contacts is to work at all. I hope don't run into the process hanging without email actually syncing. I'm still waiting this trial out to see if touchdown is worth it; they did add a new feature that shows the number of new emails in the notification icon (I don't recall if this is in the stock email app).

[Q] Non Sense Email Widget fed by mail from HTC Mail app

I am currently running a SenseHD Based ROM, however stripped of the Sense UI (baadnewz lite). This means that I have all of the key HTC system apps (mail, calendar, dialer, people, camera, etc), but none of that Sense UI and launcher (rosie, etc.) Instead I use launcher pro.
The down side is that I cannot use the very nice Sense provided widgets. If I did, I could use the Mail widget to show the email that is received from the Mail application, which is configured to read from an exchange account (push). But since I cannot use this widget, I have to rely on other widgets to show the email.
The problem is that no mail widget that I have found can be "fed" by the HTC Mail app. It doesn't seem to expose the email so that widgets (other than the Sense widgets) to display the email. In other words, every other widget doesn't allow me to select the email account that the Mail application is using.
Alternatives would be to use K9 Email + pure messaging widget, which works, but I loose the ability for push mail.
The funny thing is that the HTC calendar app --does-- expose the calendar events to other widgets. I am able to select my exchange account in the widget settings.
Am I hosed here? Does anyone know of a way I can use an email widget that is fed by the mail from the HTC Mail widget?
I thought that the email and calendar emails/events gets pushed to a central DB for others apps to cherry pick from? I guess this isn't true?
I don't want to automatically forward the email to another IMAP account (say gmail) of which another widget could pick that up...
ideas?
I'm subscribing to this thread... would like to know this as well...
would like go know too, im searching for a real nice Mail widget Hut coudnt find anythingn.
now i forward ms Mails go ms googlemail anderen Push it from there go gmail...
I stubled on the blog of the creater of the EmailWidget.
His widget can gain access to the mail from the HTC Mail widget by forcing the install of the widget to the /system area.
See http://blog.invalidobject.com/android-app-email-widget/comment-page-1
I asked him if this nice side effect would occur for all apps (i.e.: other widgets) to gain access to the mail provided by the HTC Mail.....
If this is possible.. then we are looking good!
On some HTC devices like HTC Desire or Samsung Galaxy with Android 2.1 you even don't need to install my app as system app.
I don't know of any other app that is capable of showing mails from htc mail app. That was the main reason i built my app. But it is certainly possible to implement other widgets that could gain access like my app does.
Regards,
Frank
Perhaps this thread can be moved over to the Desire Android Development forum - someone may know how to expose, and or disclose, the mail from the HTC Mail app, with or without root. There has been some hesitation in incorporating a potential integration in some mail widgets (ahem, Pure Messenger) because it requires root and is kinda "hacky" in nature.
The app either has a provider or not. I am not exactly sure why the widget being co-located with the HTC Mail app on /system is required.
The lack of a capable email widget is making me re-think my decision to go senseless!
Try Executive Assistant. Don't recall but I'm not running Sense to test.
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Try Executive Assistant. Don't recall but I'm not running Sense to test.
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Nah, you need K9 for that to read the exchange mails...
i want a tool where i dont need to install any other exchange tool ... Something like EMail Widget was perfect , but you need to have root on a desire Z stock 2.2 rom....
too bad though...
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Any experience with TouchDown for Tablets on the XOOM ?

Does anybody tried to use TouchDown for Tablets in the XOOM ?, does it work OK ?, thanks
http://www.nitrodesk.com/bigscreen.aspx
Best email program out there if you use Exchange. Nothing even comes close. This email program was the nail in my iPad's coffin.
Its pretty good. Way better than the native email app for exchange.
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I use it everyday. Works great.
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I have both RoadSync and Touchdown, and Touchdown is the best, hands down. It looks good and offers better end user configuration such as the ability to delete or not delete a message from the server when deleted on the device AND the option of not marking.the message as read on the server. I have it installed on my Xoom and Incredible. RoadSync is just a little rough around the edges, but it did work on my Xoom as well.
I uninstalled it. Too many crashes while composing and does not support drafts folder. Support said they are working hard to improve stability on Xoom and they were the ones to tell me it doesn't support the drafts folder - when you save message as draft, nothing shows up in drafts folder, although you can get to it with the drafts button displayed when you are composing a new message.
it actully works really well!
While I prefer the looks of the default exchange client it doesn't come close to the functionality of TouchDown. I highly recommend it!
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Tried it...then uninstalled
I have three Exchange accounts, each of which requires a separate Touchdown profile because Touchdown does not support multiple Exchange accounts within a single profile. Accounts in the off-line profiles are not updated. Further, switching between profiles often causes the application to crash.
Customer support is great!
My biggest disappointment was that I cannot see the folder structure of my exchange account. I contacted support and they were very responsive. If anyone is interested here's what I wrote and the reply:
ME:
Dear support,
I downloaded the trial version of TouchDown upon recommendation in a forum. So far I am not really that impressed with the offered features. I was wondering if that is just a matter of updates until this will change:
1. On the main screen it reads "Emails: x (n unread) and
Appointment(s): y. Why can't I get to the emails/calendar when I tap on the summary info?
2. I haven't found a way to browse my exchange folders. I am sure that's a mistake on my behalf but it shouldn't be that hard to figure out!
3. Is there a way to (de)select all emails and delete/move them instead of clicking one after the other?
I understand that this is a new product for tablets but if I were to spend $20 on it I would like to see more features.
Thanks for listening!
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Are you working on a Xoom? Are you saying that you see the email list but when you select and email it doesn't open? Or that you can't get to the Inbox?
You can choose what folders on Exchange to sync by going to settings>advanced>choose folders. Select what email folders you want to sync there. We are not a browser. We sync mail and you read it, forward etc...
There is a menu>more>select all function in the Inbox. You can then choose to delete or move.
Bottom line is that many features seem to be there but might be hidden and not intuitive. Don't think I'll pay $20 since I am fairly happy with the stock client.
The one thing I hate about touchdown is that he hasn't updated the UI since the days of Windows Mobile. It's just plain bad sometimes.
Bauxite said:
The one thing I hate about touchdown is that he hasn't updated the UI since the days of Windows Mobile. It's just plain bad sometimes.
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Agreed. The UI is painfully out-of-date. I banished it from my Xoom until they freshen up the design and usability.
I used Touchdown for a long time and it has by far has the most options. Tons O options. It was first to give you emails displayed as HTML instead of just text. The UI does need some refinement especially if using on a tablet (yes I know they have a tablet version now) and it is a hare buggy sometimes.
Since the Xoom I went back to just the stock email app. As it's faster/simpler than Touchdown and prettier. I don't like the fact that you can't tell the stock one to sync more than 30 days worth of emails though. (I have a couple saved folders, that I want it to sync all the saved emails in them). Plus the Stock calendar on the Xoom is much prettier than touchdowns calendar.
It Works
I'm using Touchdown and it works very well. It syncs my email, schedule and contacts. This is one of the apps that convinced me to keep the device.
Another touchdown user here, I'll agree with everyone else in that it's far more functional than the stock exchange client. I can deal with the UI because I go a free license from Moto.
Functional but in serious need of a facelift. Maybe one of our themers from XDA could take on the task.
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I've been using Touchdown since I moved to Android. It has its quirks, but I could never use the stock client since it doesn't support push to folders under the inbox. You have to manually sync those folders.
Coming from BlackBerry, it was the closest I could find to their email functionality (I still miss the email experience from my old 8830). They update pretty often. Buy the license from the market, but download the beta off the website. Just Google "Touchdown beta"

New to the Scene

I finally broke and got a smartphone. I was against getting one until I switched to Sprint(I hate Verizon) and opted to get the 4g Shift. Love it. Just rooted it, no problems there. I'm running the NonSense ROM with the 1.8ghz Kernel and it works awesome.
I don't like that the texts don't display the Facebook pictures anymore, any suggestions?
I'm also trying to find a way to update my Voicemail. I try running the .apk using a file manager but it says "no space for application" and I don't know how else to install.
Anyways, I'm looking forward for the polished versions of all these ROMS. I do love the ROM I'm using though!
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I finally broke and got a smartphone. I was against getting one until I switched to Sprint(I hate Verizon) and opted to get the 4g Shift. Love it. Just rooted it, no problems there. I'm running the NonSense ROM with the 1.8ghz Kernel and it works awesome.
I don't like that the texts don't display the Facebook pictures anymore, any suggestions?
I'm also trying to find a way to update my Voicemail. I try running the .apk using a file manager but it says "no space for application" and I don't know how else to install.
Anyways, I'm looking forward for the polished versions of all these ROMS. I do love the ROM I'm using though!
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The texts don't display fb pictures anymore because you're running a rom without sense so the native message app on your phone won't sync the photos..what you could do is install fb from market and sync it with all contacts..should fix this..
How much space if available on your phone to install to? I use adao file manager just cause it shows a little completion bar for phone mem and sd mem
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JKILO said:
The texts don't display fb pictures anymore because you're running a rom without sense so the native message app on your phone won't sync the photos..what you could do is install fb from market and sync it with all contacts..should fix this..
How much space if available on your phone to install to? I use adao file manager just cause it shows a little completion bar for phone mem and sd mem
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I downloaded the FB app from market and sync'ed with all contacts but still no luck.
I love the new Phone app that it came with. Much more user friendly, I'm not so hot on the messaging app.
The error isn't that it isn't space left, its "no application available" when I try to install the .apk file.
On the facebook picture on contacts, on a AOSP rom, you have to go to each contact, and edit, then press menu and join, and you can join it with a synced facebook contact. Make sure you have facebook to sync contacts (can adjust in the facebook app and in settings/accounts and sync
As far as voicemail, if you want to run non sense roms, I suggest getting google voice, and set it up for your voicemail, you'll save a lot of headaches. (Actually, I suggest google voice for voicemail whether your on aosp or sense, I like it way better)
And if you don't like the messaging app, there are a ton of replacements in the market. Handcent is popular, but kinda heavy. Try each and see what you think.
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On the facebook picture on contacts, on a AOSP rom, you have to go to each contact, and edit, then press menu and join, and you can join it with a synced facebook contact. Make sure you have facebook to sync contacts (can adjust in the facebook app and in settings/accounts and sync
As far as voicemail, if you want to run non sense roms, I suggest getting google voice, and set it up for your voicemail, you'll save a lot of headaches. (Actually, I suggest google voice for voicemail whether your on aosp or sense, I like it way better)
And if you don't like the messaging app, there are a ton of replacements in the market. Handcent is popular, but kinda heavy. Try each and see what you think.
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Thanks alot! I tried that but under my ROM it makes me pick between two different "contact" editors and when I try to edit it through the old "sense" looking one it FCs.
I will look into Google Voice. Thanks for your help!
Are you using a sense stripped rom or a true aoso rom? If it's just sense stripped, stripping sense from it may have broken something. If it's aosp, there shouldn't be two different contact apps...
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