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Sony drops lawsuit against Geohot

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/04/sony-settles-ps3-lawsuit/
isn't his a bad thing? seeing that Geohot was going to crack the bootloader

fiscidtox said:
jesus christ he mentioned it once......
He was not going to crack the bootloader.
He said it once to appease fans, get over it.
You geohot fanboys/fags are retarded
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not only that, but this is more PS3 related then android in anyway...if you read ANY of the legal docs you would know all of geohots computers/equipment was confiscated during the trial, and i doubt that he would go out buy a pc just so he could crack the bootloader, AND not only that, he said the REASON he bought the x10 was to get a feel for the security so he could crack the play. BUT since the play's bootloader should already be unlocked it really doesnt matter.

CAYCE_VII said:
not only that, but this is more PS3 related then android in anyway...if you read ANY of the legal docs you would know all of geohots computers/equipment was confiscated during the trial, and i doubt that he would go out buy a pc just so he could crack the bootloader, AND not only that, he said the REASON he bought the x10 was to get a feel for the security so he could crack the play. BUT since the play's bootloader should already be unlocked it really doesnt matter.
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This comes down to sony and SE taking a piss on their customers.
Nothing more.
SE deserves no respect.

I think it doesnt mean anything to us..but it would be interesting to see if he could do something interesting with an X10

OmegaRED^ said:
This comes down to sony and SE taking a piss on their customers.
Nothing more.
SE deserves no respect.
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#1 bonehead post of all time.

agentJBM said:
#1 bonehead post of all time.
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Thanx and you are?
Atleast i take the water marks off my cheap avatar.
#1 SE fanboy post of all time.
i can act half intelligent too.

agentJBM said:
#1 bonehead post of all time.
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#2 bonehead post of all time.

OmegaRED^ said:
Thanx and you are?
Atleast i take the water marks off my cheap avatar.
#1 SE fanboy post of all time.
i can act half intelligent too.
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Thats the guy with ADD and brags about his iq of 170 or something...
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It's not bragging it's informing.
Did i insult him? no.. only weak minded fools would attack someone for talking about something that is not even related to himself.
Or let me guess he's emperor of sony, bow down to him and give him a oil change.
Can we please go back to the subject topic.

OmegaRED^ said:
It's not bragging it's informing.
Did i insult him? no.. only weak minded fools would attack someone for talking about something that is not even related to himself.
Or let me guess he's emperor of sony, bow down to him and give him a oil change.
Can we please go back to the subject topic.
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How am I not related to Sony Ericsson? I have an X10, among other Sony products.
You are the one who went completely off topic, and turned them dropping the charges to pissing on their own customers.
This action by Sony is the third step in recent weeks to right their former mistakes. Whether the GEOhot decision is directly related to the bootloader opening or the gingerbread update remains to be seen, but they most certainly are not pissing on their customers. It is actually quite the opposite.
For someone who brags about an IQ of 170, you really seem to be illogical and immature.

*sigh*
SE announces Gingerbread update for X10, some people are unhappy.
Sony drops lawsuit against Geohot, same people are unhappy.
*sigh*

agentJBM said:
How am I not related to Sony Ericsson? I have an X10, among other Sony products.
You are the one who went completely off topic, and turned them dropping the charges to pissing on their own customers.
This action by Sony is the third step in recent weeks to right their former mistakes. Whether the GEOhot decision is directly related to the bootloader opening or the gingerbread update remains to be seen, but they most certainly are not pissing on their customers. It is actually quite the opposite.
For someone who brags about an IQ of 170, you really seem to be illogical and immature.
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lol.. i mocked sony.. not their products.
And you are not sony.
Also making fun of someone for their intelligence is a sign of insecurity.

OmegaRED^ said:
It's not bragging it's informing.
Did i insult him? no.. only weak minded fools would attack someone for talking about something that is not even related to himself.
Or let me guess he's emperor of sony, bow down to him and give him a oil change.
Can we please go back to the subject topic.
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Sorry I am a weak minded fool with ADD! Im so insecure. Do you know what stephen hawking has to say about your iq?
Hawking was asked about his IQ in a 2004 newspaper interview, and replied, "I have no idea. People who boast about their I.Q. are losers." Yet when asked "Are you saying you are not a genius?", Hawking replied "I hope I'm near the upper end of the range."
But props to geohot. Not a god but deserving recognition. I wonder if anon made an impact at all?
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Windst said:
Sorry I am a weak minded fool with ADD! Im so insecure. Do you know what stephen hawking has to say about your iq? Go look it up.
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CBF...
Now get back on topic.

this thread needs to be in a different forum/site. or moved to a different place at least.
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OmegaRED^ said:
CBF...
Now get back on topic.
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Cbf? I wish i knew what that meant
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It's impressive how threads go from Zero to Trolling in less than 5 posts.
Sony is trying to do some PR damage control. Sony HAS to do something about the hack because it's a public company and answers to stockholders. It really is that simple. No one in this story has to be evil. No one in this story needs to brag about an IQ of 170.
The fact that suing the hacker in no way prevents further hacking of the PS3 was an oversight that Sony's top management forgot to consider when they panicked. But they needed to react in SOME way.
I agree: suing a kid for meddling with proprietary software was not the smartest way to prevent further hacking. Sony seems to have patched the security flaw with the latest firmware and has let every other GeoHot wannabe that there WILL be repercussions if they try to **** with their console security again.

OmegaRED^ said:
lol.. i mocked sony.. not their products.
And you are not sony.
Also making fun of someone for their intelligence is a sign of insecurity.
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Actually bragging about your high IQ is the sign of insecurity.

my point is that Geohot will never be able to tamper with any sony products ever again..

Hobbes2099 said:
It's impressive how threads go from Zero to Trolling in less than 5 posts.
Sony is trying to do some PR damage control. Sony HAS to do something about the hack because it's a public company and answers to stockholders. It really is that simple. No one in this story has to be evil. No one in this story needs to brag about an IQ of 170.
The fact that suing the hacker in no way prevents further hacking of the PS3 was an oversight that Sony's top management forgot to consider when they panicked. But they needed to react in SOME way.
I agree: suing a kid for meddling with proprietary software was not the smartest way to prevent further hacking. Sony seems to have patched the security flaw with the latest firmware and has let every other GeoHot wannabe that there WILL be repercussions if they try to **** with their console security again.
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So did anons threat get brushed away. Did they even give up before the drop?
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Android 4 Autism (Big Announcement)

Hey everyone. I wanted to cleanup this post a bit in order to make a pretty big announcement. Here is an expcert from my blog post late last night. The whole post can be read here.
"Tonight, I so very pleased to announce that Intellijoy will be donating FULL versions of ALL their children’s apps to Android4Autism to be distributed on all the devices that we will be putting into the hands of Autistic children from around the US. I’m very excited about this because I truly believe this WILL make a difference in the lives of many Autistic children and their families. I don’t make it a habit of promoting companies on this blog because that’s not the purpose of Lost and Tired. However, Intellijoy is a company that is working to help our children learn through engaging and entertaining apps. My children benefit from the use of these applications and I know many more could as well. As special needs parents and members of the Autism community we should support companies like, Intellijoy, as they are providing low cost software that can turn your Android powered smartphone into a learning tool for your child.
So on behalf of Android4Autism and lostandtired.com, I want to THANK Intellijoy for helping to improve the lives our Autistic children and their families. If you have an Android powered smart phone and I KNOW many of you do, check out these apps on the Market. Help spread the word that these apps and others like it can be found on the Android Market. As a community we need to support the companies that are providing resources for our kids….. More to come soon…"
In the mean time get all the latest Android4Autism updates by following us on twitter: @Android4Autism or “Like us on Facebook.

mine.......

Your a good man. And I respect what your doing .

Stupid thanks limit for the day...Great job again Rob you never cease to amaze me...
Now I need to find a way to add this thread to my Sig lol
Some forum....won't mention names...has a stupid 4 or 5 line limit...

Awesome thing to do man. Why is there not more people like u in this world?
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ZiggSVO said:
Stupid thanks limit for the day...Great job again Rob you never cease to amaze me...
Now I need to find a way to add this thread to my Sig lol
Some forum....won't mention names...has a stupid 4 or 5 line limit...
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Iknow right? we need a spoiler's tag code. =(

When I upgrade my phone ill for sure donate my epic but that might not happened till December though I wish I could do it now
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Esteway.619 said:
When I upgrade my phone ill for sure donate my epic but that might not happened till December though I wish I could do it now
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That would be awesome. Thanks so much.

I won't be able to upgrade until October, cause that's when my premier gold status kicks in, and idk when i'll be able to get a new phone. But, when I do, I plan on donating
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ptfdmedic said:
That would be awesome. Thanks so much.
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No problem man. U don't mind if it not till December right?
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What do you guys think. I was polling today on twitter for advice. I really like the name but can't decide between "Android 4 Autism" or Android for Autism". For url purposes android4autism.com looks better but written out, "Android for Autism" may look better. Using "for" looks more professional but I'm catering to kids and special needs families so using "4" may be a bit more casual and kid friendly.
What do you guys think?
"Android 4 Autism" or "Android for Autism"

I say Android for Autism.
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holy crap, you are an amazing person medic, I wish more people could be like you; including myself.

ptfdmedic said:
What do you guys think. I was polling today on twitter for advice. I really like the name but can't decide between "Android 4 Autism" or Android for Autism". For url purposes android4autism.com looks better but written out, "Android for Autism" may look better. Using "for" looks more professional but I'm catering to kids and special needs families so using "4" may be a bit more casual and kid friendly.
What do you guys think?
"Android 4 Autism" or "Android for Autism"
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I vote "Android 4 Autism" Like you said your catering for the kids and I think kids would think its cooler that you used a 4 instead of for
And I've already put that in my sig can't change it now lol
Edit: and the 4 can symbolize the 4 people in your life that started all of this

Esteway.619 said:
No problem man. U don't mind if it not till December right?
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My goal is to keep this going as long as I can. I'll need phones in December also. So that's perfect. I just wanted to let everyone know what I am going to be doing before everyone upgrades.

I already own the .com and .org for both android4autism and androidforautism. That way I have all my bases covered. The guy I use for my hosting is setting everything up on the server and I start putting the site together as I move forward. I want to put some feelers out in the Autism community to help identify needy families.
As I said I just wanted to say something now so that if and when you guys upgrade you have knowledge of what I'm doing so if you wanted to donate your device you could and if not that's cool to. Maybe you could just help spread the word.
Thanks again everyone.....

ptfdmedic said:
What do you guys think. I was polling today on twitter for advice. I really like the name but can't decide between "Android 4 Autism" or Android for Autism". For url purposes android4autism.com looks better but written out, "Android for Autism" may look better. Using "for" looks more professional but I'm catering to kids and special needs families so using "4" may be a bit more casual and kid friendly.
What do you guys think?
"Android 4 Autism" or "Android for Autism"
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My opinion, use "for" I hate when I tell someone a website and then have to tell them its not like it sounds, like saying its not "for" its "4"... Anyway awesome work...
Please click link below to help support autism awareness,it only takes 2 seconds to help make a difference... http://picketfenceblogs.com/vote/3616

ecooce said:
My opinion, use "for" I hate when I tell someone a website and then have to tell them its not like it sounds, like saying its not "for" its "4"... Anyway awesome work...
Please click link below to help support autism awareness,it only takes 2 seconds to help make a difference... http://picketfenceblogs.com/vote/3616
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Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. That's why I snatched up all the domains. I figured that either way it will get them to the right place.

I'd vote Autism4Android. It looks better in the URL. But like many said, maybe using "for" would be better in general.

ptfdmedic said:
Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. That's why I snatched up all the domains. I figured that either way it will get them to the right place.
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True, you did the right thing... The name is very catchy, I've got a contact that works for Fox 5, let me see what I can do...
Help support autism awareness,it only takes 2 seconds to help make a difference... http://picketfenceblogs.com/vote/3616

Motorola Owners Forum is a Joke

And so my account was disabled after providing a little negative feedback...
Motorola you are such a bunch of c0cks.

I doubt posting here is going to make it better.
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Did that make you feel better though?

Lothaen said:
Did that make you feel better though?
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Man did it ever!!!!! Feel so much better!!

Fyi, that's called trolling and most people hate it. Kind of like going to a baseball game and telling everyone around you baseball sucks. Usually people won't like you after that, and now you know.
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tumbes20000 said:
Fyi, that's called trolling and most people hate it. Kind of like going to a baseball game and telling everyone around you baseball sucks. Usually people won't like you after that, and now you know.
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No, that's called a group of fanboys that cannot stand to hear any criticism, especially if the criticism is totally factual.
Motorola's forums are a fanboy circle jerk.
And Baseball does suck since it has kept the BS records of cheaters.
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Ok I think we are done here now?

Lothaen said:
Ok I think we are done here now?
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Why add the question mark to the end of your statement?
Is it because of your use of the royal "we?" Because it really is douchey to speak for other people without their permission.
Next time, try talking for just yourself.
"Ok I think I am done here now."
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Kurttrail, can you bring it down a notch please? There is no need to go on the attack for every perceived offense. Try and help make this a friendlier forum.
There is not much chance at being banned here but being abusive is not helpful.

JanetPanic said:
Kurttrail, can you bring it down a notch please? There is no need to go on the attack for every perceived offense. Try and help make this a friendlier forum.
There is not much chance at being banned here but being abusive is not helpful.
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How was I being abusive?
I was just providing a little constructive criticism about the use of the royal "we."
Can you please try not to be so over-sensitive? Thanks!
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kurttrail said:
How was I being abusive?
I was just providing a little constructive criticism about the use of the royal "we."
Can you please try not to be so over-sensitive? Thanks!
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When you reference someone as a douche I think it steps beyond constructive criticism.
I think it still merits discussion.
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Would have been sufficient in my eyes.
or perhaps
While you may feel the conversation is done, I have more to say.
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Makes the point. It is not unusual for the "royal we" to be used in the manner used and generally it does not attract vitriol. Disagreement perhaps, but not anger.

in before the lock!

jondwillis said:
in before the lock!
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Hopefully not.
Moto forums are censored like a tin-pot dictatorship would! Lets have a bit of freedom - and a lot of respect for each other....

JanetPanic said:
When you reference someone as a douche I think it steps beyond constructive criticism.
Would have been sufficient in my eyes.
or perhaps
Makes the point. It is not unusual for the "royal we" to be used in the manner used and generally it does not attract vitriol. Disagreement perhaps, but not anger.
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I described the action of speaking for other people without permission as "douchey." I did not "reference someone as a douche."
Please read my actual words next time. Thanks!
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JanetPanic said:
It is not unusual for the "royal we" to be used in the manner used and generally it does not attract vitriol. Disagreement perhaps, but not anger.
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What makes you think I'm angry?
Is it me saying "Thanks" to you, or is it the smiley faces? Thanks!
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I think its pretty clear that the managers of that forum are nothing but a bunch of douches that have no clue as to what is going on with any of their own products, and total disregard for their user base. Thats ok, Aus Chamber of Commerce will be getting a nice little bulletin board write up of my experience with Motorola. Exposure to 400,000+ members should be a nice little kick in the teeth for Moto..
I'm glad they disabled both of my accounts - it gave me just enough motivation..

What were your usernames. I would be interested to see the exchange.

cheetah2k said:
I'm glad they disabled both of my accounts - it gave me just enough motivation..
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You know you could just sign up again giving bogus info, right?
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kurttrail said:
No, that's called a group of fanboys that cannot stand to hear any criticism, especially if the criticism is totally factual.
Motorola's forums are a fanboy circle jerk.
And Baseball does suck since it has kept the BS records of cheaters.
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I agree
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Hello and OT thread

My wife just surprised me with a sgs3, for my bday. Anyways just wanted to introduce myself because you will see me posting. I will have a lot of questions, after i read of course. I came from the Desire HD and Sensation so i'm familiar with android and rooting but now i'm dealing with a beast and this is my first samsung phone. Anyways, i'm glad to be apart of a new community.
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Mod edit:
Lets give this idea a try, make sure to read this post
veyka said:
You know what, let's go with this idea.
As long as you guys can keep this friendly, lets make this the SGS3, hello and chat thread.
A few ground rules:
1) I am relying on everyone to report and ignore any trollish posts rather than respond to them
2) If this goes downhill, I will not hesitate to close it
That said, enjoy :good:
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Yes you need to read a lot. But for starting, read XDA rules (a must read)
And welcome buddy.
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let us all introduce ourself now

Yes, read read read and then read some more. search before posting and try not to ask stupid questions or ask for things to be spoon fed to you and you'll be ok
Hi, I'm graffixnyc and I like unicorns and long walks on the beach

Lol you guys are a much tougher crowd than the HTC guys. This is my 3rd android phone and have been a member of xda since last november. I know the routine but goodlooking out.
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swift2fly said:
Lol you guys are a much tougher crowd than the HTC guys. This is my 3rd android phone and have been a member of xda since last november. I know the routine but goodlooking out.
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Yes, I discovered that too when I switched from HTC to Samsung.. But then again I think more idots use samsung devices so patience runs thin with more senior guys. hahhaha

welcome...
2 rules to follow
1.read
2.read

if you are coming from HTC, you will catch up fast. SAmsung phones are usually "development friendly". Very easy to tinker with their phones (VZN Locked bootloader exempt)
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graffixnyc said:
Yes, I discovered that too when I switched from HTC to Samsung.. But then again I think more idots use samsung devices so patience runs thin with more senior guys. hahhaha
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or may be the senior guys are idiots here

This kinda thread actually isn't a bad idea, well what I mean is to have ONE thread to introduce ourselves in, we all know each others user names but maybe we would have a better community if we said a bit about ourselves and our first names or something.
Just a thought.
Tom, 27, software dev student, I enjoy electronic music, cars, the outdoors and of course gadgets of all kinds!
I hope other people get involved or else I've just made a right tit of myself
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nodstuff said:
This kinda thread actually isn't a bad idea, well what I mean is to have ONE thread to introduce ourselves in, we all know each others user names but maybe we would have a better community if we said a bit about ourselves and our first names or something.
Just a thought.
Tom, 27, software dev student, I enjoy electronic music, cars, the outdoors and of course gadgets of all kinds!
I hope other people get involved or else I've just made a right tit of myself
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Patrick, 36, Computer programmer, part-time night student, part time tech writer for land of droid, semi-pro musician (Spector bass endorsee)
There now we both look like tits.. a nice pair of tits, but tits none the less

Oh.. Hello
Saw, 32, Salesman and 'semi-pro' stock trader , love programming but still learning.
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aww heck, m might as well join in.....slappy 48, dad of two, separated, used to be self employed gardener, unemployed for last 2 years due to cancer(all good now) , philosopher, anarchist, peace lover, assassin of "best Rom thread"

Arsaw said:
Oh.. Hello
Saw, 32, Salesman and 'semi-pro' stock trader , love programming but still learning.
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Nice, I've actually been thinking of getting into day trading. My friend started doing it when he got laid off and now he just trades stocks in his basement all day.. He makes very good money and has no boss to answer to. But he does have a high risk of losing everything he has if something he had his $ in crashed
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graffixnyc said:
Nice, I've actually been thinking of getting into day trading. My friend started doing it when he got laid off and now he just trades stocks in his basement all day.. He makes very good money and has no boss to answer to. But he does have a high risk of losing everything he has if something he had his $ in crashed
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Trading stocks is very risky business. Learn everything you can about stocks trading and then unlearn. Ironically, I make money only by not knowing too much about stock
Anyway, good luck to you and your friend.
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Jonathon, John, Jon whatever you want to call me I'm the vagabond of XDA, but occasionally I'm good for a piece of info here and there. :highfive:
Age: 18 Location: UK

Hi, I'm netarchy, and I'm an alcoh... oh wait, not that kind of thread. ;D

Haha you guys are cool. btw reading helped me today. My phone is officially rooted.
You can call me Swift. Today i turned 31. I grew up in the states but now living in cambodia. I am the Creative general manager/account manager for a film, music, ads and event management company. Look us up 391films and KlapYaHandz cambodia.
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netarchy said:
Hi, I'm netarchy, and I'm an alcoh... oh wait, not that kind of thread. ;D
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netarchy, I thought you were a porno-holic?

Other than a Forum I can not think of any other Online communication tool that would not send alarm bells running where a 59 year old communicates with a 16 year old!!!
That's the essence of a forum, we are all equal and no one judges anyone. We all share the same desire and that is our tech.
For those that do not know me....
It's Beards, your Senior Consultant Surgeon.
Happily married for over 37yrs with grown kids (yippee) and a Granddaughter who is my shadow.
I do a lot for charity (as in my signature) and am always willing to both help and learn.
At 59 nearing 60 rapidly..... please be gentle. A few of my brain cells have become lonely.

Off Topic: But Relevant Opinion on Apple vs Samsung

At least I thought it was relevant and interesting that he did not think the California decision would stick.
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/...ntcmp=features

Content moved/removed.
Did apple add it to the lawsuit so it has a ban?

The url is invalid. Try this:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/17/woz-on-apple-legal-victory-over-samsung-hate-it/

mi7chy said:
The url is invalid. Try this:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/17/woz-on-apple-legal-victory-over-samsung-hate-it/
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Thanks for the fix.

You realize of course that most of the opinions in this forum are more useful than that guy's?
Anyway, I have an iPad also. Ain't gonna be giving that up soon......

macwilson said:
You realize of course that most of the opinions in this forum are more useful than that guy's?
Anyway, I have an iPad also. Ain't gonna be giving that up soon......
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Wait, what? How can you even begin to justify this statement? The Woz is a co-founder of Apple and probably holds more patents himself than you can shake a stick at. If that guy doesn't know what he is talking about, no one does.
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From the article: "If you're shocked to see such a senior figure at Apple blurt out such an anti-Apple opinion..."
Actually, Wozniak hasn't been an employee in any normal sense at Apple for a long time. He does hold a significant number of shares of course.
That aside, I have to say, that article kind of raised my opinions abuot Woz. I knew he was a fan of Android - but it's good to see him come right out and say what needs to be said.

macwilson said:
You realize of course that most of the opinions in this forum are more useful than that guy's?
Anyway, I have an iPad also. Ain't gonna be giving that up soon......
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If it wasn't for "that guy" you would not have that IPad.