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Hello there,
I now am a happy owner of a HTC Prophet ( I bought it as an O2 XDA neo) for about two weeks.
The thing works fine, but I am interested in installing linux on it (that's the main reason why I registered at this site).
But because this little piece of hardware is quite expensive I have some concerns about flashing the rom. So I have to ask:
Is there a SAFE way to try a new/altered/old/linux rom on my Prophet;
e.g. if the newly installed rom isn't working/ I don't like it/ the flashing process crashed/... can I somehow get the original state(e.g. the O2 branded WM5) back on the machine?
I cannot afford to try something with this machine and afterwards I have to put it in a trashcan :-(
-regards,
traintop
There are no 'safe' way of doing it. Probably the safest way of doing it to let an experience person to flash it for you, still there are certain risks.
For your case, I don't think you should flash it yourself. BTW, there is linux ROM for Prophet?
If you want to deal with linux, you need to modify bootloader.
This is not safe. You may turn your device into brick quite easy.
If you want experementing with linux, then look on Nokia 770, it would be your choice. Linux is by default installed on Nokia 770. And you don't need to modify bootloader.
regards,
de fdp24
hanmin said:
BTW, there is linux ROM for Prophet?
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I haven't found one yet; and I believe there aren't any. But if you want to try a compiled kernel on a PocketPC, I would think putting it into a ROM and flashing this one to your machine is the best way...
-I have to say I have experience in building linux on Intel-based PCs from scratch and I just wanted to know whether there is way of trying linux on my Prohpet in a way similar to the one used on your desktop (e.g. dual-booting).
But because storage-capacities (ROM) is quite tiny in comparison to desktop PCs (where another hard drive or at least a partition ist easily installed to switch between) I think you have to
backup your current state of the Prophet,
save it to your PC,
flash the new to-be-tested ROM on the Prophet,
reboot and try.
After testing you can flash back the "original" (in my situation: WM5) ROM, reboot and you're fine.
With this process I have no problems at all (although a bit time-expensive) if and only if the flashing of the Prophet can be done quite safely...
I have read a lot about linux on HTC devices and found out that the Prophet is nearly an exact copy of the Wizard, just without keyboard.
So how do the guys from the Wizard-Team do the testing of the newly compiled kernels and so on...
-If they would have to fear the end of their machine each time flashing the ROM I think they are either very brave men or they have good tools.
I think I will post my question in the wizard thread as well but thought to ask here first because they will probably say: I have no idea; I only have a wizard! ... :-(
-cu,
traintop
ps: after reading my post again I remember an old SUSE-distribution (I think it was 5.4) where you could install a little Programm on your Windows-partition.
When you started this programm it booted a linux kernel which in some way managed to get windows completely out of RAM and you could work with your linux-box as if it was booted with linux from the very beginning...
-perhaps this could also be a solution...
If you are not familiar with Linux - never try to play it with mobile devices. Just a good advice: use your desktop and let your handheld live as it born
Hi, i searched and couldnt find anything... I just installed ubuntu and have been dual-booting with windows Vista for several weeks now. My question is im a windows (redheaded step)child and im not too familiar with linux' inner workings yet...so i have not been doing anything to "safely remove" my G1 when in ubuntu, cuz i thought that such an option doesnt exist...problem is now i think ive corrupted all my data on my SDcard and i was just hoping that someone could tell me how to do this correctly in ubuntu? Do i hafta mount it, and THEN unmount it before i should unplug it? I dont even know if this is the problem, but ive been watching my logcat and it gives me some Dbus error when i plug in USB and it doesnt come up on the phone with option to mount SDcard, and windows doesnt recognize my device anymore. Pretty sure i corrupted my SD, im pretty sure i can fix it without help, if someone could just tell me the proper procedure for removing devices from ubuntu? thanks in advance...
-BMFC
I dual boot ubuntu on my mac OSX, which emulator are you using (fusion VM, virtualbox etc...?)
(1) When you've properly mounted your SD card it should show up on your ubuntu Desktop. Just go to Places > Desktop and you should be able to eject the SD card (two if you are partitioning them and AppstoSD) by pressing the "eject" button. The SD card should show up in the left window pane.
(2) Also, you probably have corrupted your SD card and are going to have to reformat it, losing all of your data.
(3) Somewhere in your emulator there should be a USB button to see which devices are plugged into your host computer, and which ever one you select your emulator will read.
(4) Finally, you don't provide enough information for a real answer...
(a) What ubuntu are you running?
(b) Do you have appstosd?
(c) have you done a nandroid backup?
(d) Which emulator/virtual environment are you running?
Hope this helps.
In Nautilus (the file manager) there will be a little orange eject symbol next to the drive. Clicking it will unmount the drive, which you should ALWAYS do before pulling any kind of removable media out of the socket. Unmounting is the *nix equivalent of "ejecting" in Windows.
If you're running a command line setup, the command to unmount is
Code:
sudo umount /media/(insert mount name here)
Hope that helps!
I too dual boot and noticed they i wouldn't get the "usb connected" on the G1. After some tweaking a few options; i noticed I would get the USB connected IF my usb debugging was ON. [settings- applications- developement- usb debugging]. I have to check for Ubuntu and uncheck for windows. I hope that helps
you see the problem is that ive never actually mounted my G1 in ubuntu, i just plugged it in to charge...so i never had to unmount it and theres no "safely remove" function, that i could find, so i figured that linux was just secure enough that it didnt require safely removing devices....oops...in answer to your questions, first im not running any VM...im ACTUALLY dual-booting. i have windows vista and ubuntu Jaunty running side-by-side, on a compaq presario f700. I DO have USB debugging ENABLED, and right now im running JF1.42rc33 still, im prolly gonna be wiping and upgrading to SOMETHING today, i was kinda just holding off cuz i like my theme, but my phones f-in up so nows as good a time as any to start fresh. I dont use a2sd, just my caches for market, browser, and maps are on sd. Ive been having trouble on my g/f's hp Pavilion pc running windows vista...we both have g1's and HERS is stock, unrooted, and she just got the OTA a couple days ago, since then the computer has been hating on MY phone, it says the drivers screwed and it wount bring up the option on my phone to mount the sdcard. hers still works fine, and mine still works fine hooked up to my laptop, just not hers...so i dunno if THATS a cupcake issue or if its cuz i didnt remove it from ubuntu right...im gonna format my sd AND wipe my phone, and ill get back to you guys moentarily, thanks for all your replies.
-BMFC
If all you were doing is charging, and you didn't mount it, then your original assumption was correct. You don't need to unmount something that was never mounted.
mm0
ok well then somebody help me out with this: i have tried for two days to get my sdcard to format, and IT JUST WONT. I cant get it to even be recognized by my girlfriends computer, but her G1 running UNrooted TMOCupcake still works fine, kinda makes me wonder if hers didnt get some kinda updated driver packed with it? The cupcake, i mean, not the phone...i dunno. Anyways my phone WONT mount in ubuntu at all, it shows up but when i try to mount it it says "No media on Volume" and wont open it at all. so in windows it ACTS like its doin everything i want it to do...i tried to format my sd yesterday and i sat here and watched it the whole time, and when it finshed it said: "Format Completed SUCCESSFULLY." so i SAFELY REMOVED IT, unplugged and plugged back the usb, and when it came up EVERYTHING WAS STILL THERE!!!! my problem seems to be my sdcard/doom folder...it tells me that the folder \doom is ENTIRELY UNREADABLE.
ahem...on a side note, all these things happened at once...(same day)
1. My g/f got the OTA cupcake update...
2. I updated some apps from the market, the one that im suspecting right now is called "Cards(-)" by Coderminus. After i updated it, i went to play Doom, and instead of playing like usual, when i hit the "Play" button, it just exitted to home. So i checked my logcat and the Cards(-) app caused ALL KINDS of runtime errors, and so i uninstalled this app.
3. My market starts crashing all of a sudden. I cleared the cache and it SEEMED to fix it...for now.
4. Uninstalled Doom (ver. 1.29.666) and then went and deleted my doom folder.(I thought) Reinstalled newest version of Doom (ver. 1.31.666)
5. Tried to redownload the WADs to play, and i could get it to play, as long as i didnt try to download the sound files. Everytime i tried to get the sounds, it would act fine, but then when id go to play the game itd just exit to home again....
6. Repeated step 5. like 6 times....
This was all like 2 days ago? 3 days ago? and ive been messing with it ever since, and my PHONE is fine, but my SDCARD appears to be, for lack of a better term, ****ED. i cant even format it, ive tride 3 times, it just all comes right back when i plug it back in...i even tried to put an update.zip in my sdcard and update from JF1.42RC33 to (I was gonna try Dude's 1.2b) so i put that in there, and removed it and when i went into my file manager on the g1, the update wasnt there! i cannot seem to be able to make ANY changes to my sd...SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!
-BMFC
Try ti format your card from within your phone. Unfortunately that's the only issue I can help you with.
Edit: try doing a system wipe on your girlfriends phone from the recovery menu. It should solve the crashes. You will wave to reinstall all your apps tho.
ubernicholi said:
Try ti format your card from within your phone. Unfortunately that's the only issue I can help you with.
Edit: try doing a system wipe on your girlfriends phone from the recovery menu. It should solve the crashes. You will wave to reinstall all your apps tho.
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I...didnt even know that was possible...im not seein any options to do that...you know some terminal commands for that or somethin? Cus when i got into my file manager (i use aFile, cuz it has wireless transfer) i cant even delete anything from there, ANY folder i try to delete it just says "Failed to delete (folder name)"...so if you know how to do that then hook me up and ill try it...
-BMFC
EDIT: i think you misunderstood, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG with my girlfriends phone...its just that she got the US OTA and it happened at the same time as all this other, so i thought maybe it might have had some effect on how mine interfaces with her comp...honestly i doubt it, but until someone tells me im wrong im not ruling it out...
On your phone Goto your settings menu, sdcard and phone memory, unmount your card and then select format
No dice, seems you may be on a diff. ROM than me, i dont have that option, i unmount the card, and thats all that happens, it unmounts it...no format option...
-BMFC
Damn that sucks. Does your girls phone have that option? I wish I could help you out. But I'm at a loss
Sdcard IMPOSSIBLE TO FORMAT....need ADVANCED help!!!
hi i posted a thread here for help, and i did so cuz i need help from someone INTELLIGENT. The mods have now moved my post to the "General section" of the dream forum, where i cant get **** for help. The reason i didnt just post in that section, where it goes, is CUZ NO ONE CAN OR WILL HELP ME OVER THERE....i need a devs help or somethin...THATS why i posted in the dev section...cus its pointless to try to get support from end users...i might as well just sit in the bedroom with NO COMPUTER asking MYSELF what the answer is...so first off id like to thank the AWESOME mods here for burying my post head-high in a section that i cant get any support in, EVER. THEN, id like to ask some dev(s) or SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY INTELLIGENT, please go to
this thread
and read, and im BEGGING you for help!!! To whoever helps me figure this out i would gladly donate to WHATEVER cause you have!!!! Honestly, if you ONLY read MY posts, you wont miss anything important, except some guy with the SAME SKILL LEVEL AS ME telling me to wipe SOMEBODY ELSES PHONE and see if that works...****.
SOMEONE PLEASE try to help me out before the AWESOME mods here at xda move this post, too. Im not sorry im posting in the wrong secrtion cuz this is where the help is and thats REALLY what i need right now. So MODS, you can move my posts all day long, ill just make a new one linking to the old one till i get some support...suspend me...BAN me, i dont care, ill just keep coming back with new usernames and accounts until i get some help, cuz THATS WHAT THE F*CK SUPPORT FORUMS ARE FOR. Im really pissed at whatever mod moved my post, cuz the SECOND i posted that thread initially, i got like 4 or 5 replies, thats why i LOVE this forum, cuz it has GREAT SUPPORT, when you can actually get your question seen by a dev, that is. but as soon as my post got moved i got several replies from one DUMBASS that was TRYING to help, and ill give him that he was just tryin to help, but i have a problem with my phone, and this guy tells me i should WIPE MY GIRLFRIENDS PHONE. WOW. Just wow. Someone please go read my problem and post there, or post here, with some answers....MODS PLEASE DONT MOVE THIS THREAD I AM TRYING TO GET SOME HELP!!!!
-BMFC
yea *****ing like a 4 year old will you nowhere. no one owes you anything.
If you have a camera, try using that to format your memory card. Hope it works.
lol ok first off take it easy on the mods here, i'm speaking of your other post, they try to keep these forums clean and it isnt an easy job all things considered.
the way i see it you have 2 options.
1. Throw your card in a digital camera and use the camera to format it. I works most the time when a computer wont, several times my pc wouldn't recognize/format a card but my ****ty digital camera had no problem.
2. if that doesn't work, splurge the $8.99(or less) it costs to get a new sd.
I've even seen 8gig class 6 cards for around $20 and 4gig class 4 cards for $10.
edit: wow just a min too late
Hi,
I have been following the steps required to root the G1, and have obtained root, up until a point. However, when trying to plug my G1 into my OS X machine to copy the remaining required files over to the SD, it has caused a kernel panic on every attempt to do this.
Before, when my G1 was at CRB43 (UK phone) it interacted just fine, so I dont know why 1.0 is causing this problem.
Anyone got any ideas?
Mine isn't the same version as you (Haykuro's Hero) but yesterday I plugged in my g1 to update my phone and it BSOD my Windows 7 build Funny, but ya I'd also like to know what would cause this, though its only done it once.
benrothwell said:
Hi,
I have been following the steps required to root the G1, and have obtained root, up until a point. However, when trying to plug my G1 into my OS X machine to copy the remaining required files over to the SD, it has caused a kernel panic on every attempt to do this.
Before, when my G1 was at CRB43 (UK phone) it interacted just fine, so I dont know why 1.0 is causing this problem.
Anyone got any ideas?
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I doubt its the G1, everytime something like this happens to my mac, its always the mac's fault. Could be something corrupt, try installing Onyx. Its a mac maintenance prog. Run the automation setting and see if that helps.
Onyx:http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs2/english/download.html
tr.slate said:
I doubt its the G1, everytime something like this happens to my mac, its always the mac's fault. Could be something corrupt, try installing Onyx. Its a mac maintenance prog. Run the automation setting and see if that helps.
Onyx:http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs2/english/download.html
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Another good thing to try is go into application/utilities/disk utilities and run a permissions check on your drive. I've fixed a kernel panic that way before.
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Another good thing to try is go into application/utilities/disk utilities and run a permissions check on your drive. I've fixed a kernel panic that way before.
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Onyx does all that and wayyyy more.
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Onyx does all that and wayyyy more.
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Do I need to download Deeper and Maintanence as well? Or is Onyx all inclusive?
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Do I need to download Deeper and Maintanence as well? Or is Onyx all inclusive?
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It's all inclusive. It will prompt you to close everything except onyx too, so make sure you have everything saved. Its a great program!
Thanks for the tips guys, but still no joy. Plug G1 in and mouse pointer just freezes instantly...
Hey, you mentioned you have root to a point...
Since it seems we might not be able to fix the comp problem ( at least without some drastic steps like reinstalling the OS X possibly... ), can you tell us your goal with your phone? Are you trying to connect it so you can flash a different rom, or just trying to sync it with iTunes? Could you just buy a card reader and get to where you want to be?
I imagine you want to connect it to complete some sort of rooting process. If thats true we may be able to help you overcome the rooting issue.
If it helps, I have been running the Rogers R2 rom along side Leopard, and I don't have any troubles with them connecting.
Does anyone know if it would help to install the SDK? IDK, maybe there's some sort of drivers etc, that need to be reinstalled?
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Hey, you mentioned you have root to a point...
Since it seems we might not be able to fix the comp problem ( at least without some drastic steps like reinstalling the OS X possibly... ), can you tell us your goal with your phone? Are you trying to connect it so you can flash a different rom, or just trying to sync it with iTunes? Could you just buy a card reader and get to where you want to be?
I imagine you want to connect it to complete some sort of rooting process. If thats true we may be able to help you overcome the rooting issue.
If it helps, I have been running the Rogers R2 rom along side Leopard, and I don't have any troubles with them connecting.
Does anyone know if it would help to install the SDK? IDK, maybe there's some sort of drivers etc, that need to be reinstalled?
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There are no drivers for the linux/mac sdk, so that won't help.
One other suggestion is to click on the apple in the menu bar, go to "about this mac", click on "more info", scroll to the bottom of the list and select logs under software. Choose the system.log and look for any indications of what the failure may be there. My guess is you have another usb device connected that is causing a problem. I had issues with my microsoft kybd/mouse and had to uninstall the stupid M$ software that came with it to get around a kernel panic (unrelated to the G1).
If you want, you can post the log here for us to look at.
ive noticed this with ubuntu, windows 7, windows xp home and mac whenever i mount the sd card over usb, any of the os'es freeze/crash -
G1 running hero/cyangen sdcard partition with ext2/fat32
korndub said:
ive noticed this with ubuntu, windows 7, windows xp home and mac whenever i mount the sd card over usb, any of the os'es freeze/crash -
G1 running hero/cyangen sdcard partition with ext2/fat32
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Wow! Thats insanity.
Maybe unrelated, but I had to install a special ext2 format utility for my mac to even recognize the ext2 partition of my sd. And even then, it really didnt like mounting that partition. Never caused a kernal panic, but def slowed things down a lot.
Totally off-topic, but I love how Windows crashes are dubbed "Blue Screen of Death", while Mac OS gets "Kernel Panic".
Kernel Panic. lol
Sounds like a cartoon character.
yeah, sounds very Evil Orval Redenbacher-ish.
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Wow! Thats insanity.
Maybe unrelated, but I had to install a special ext2 format utility for my mac to even recognize the ext2 partition of my sd. And even then, it really didnt like mounting that partition. Never caused a kernal panic, but def slowed things down a lot.
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turns out its an issue with the HP mini 2133 i found others that have the same problem....after two hours of tech chat with HP problem persists....
macbook has always been finicky with the ext2 partition even with the ext2fs driver and macfuse....odd to me since mac is usually friendly....
So,
I'm not the best husband but I bought my wife a Nook Color and rooted it last week. No issues.
Today for Mothers Day I gave it to her and she loved it. She went to bed however, and when trying to install a new rom (I back'd up etc etc) the thing went all black screen and wouldn't start.
I've gotten an image of Clockwork Mod (and it boots to that, it wasn't booting at all after the above mentioned issue) and from what I've read and scoured the intrawebs for this is what needed to be done.
From this point, I've read a million different topics (and please stay with me, I'm not fantastic when it comes to these things) I cannot for the life of me get to a point to install the file called: nookcolor_1_4_1_signed which is supposed to be the thing that I need to get the Nook back to its original self.
If anyone, everyone, could supply some information in regards to what step needs to be taken next I will be 1,000,000 times greatful. I have looked everywhere, and seem to get confused once it comes to getting that zip (if that's what I need to finish the process).
I've gotten into Clockwork and MOUNTED everything from /system /data /cache/ /sdcard (however, said card doesn't pop open on my laptop) and when I try to mount the USB storage I get an error titled: "E:Unable to write to ums lunfile (no such file or directory).
I'm at the point of no return, but I dont' want to give up. I feel like I just need some direction on what to do at this point.
Again, 1,000,000 times thanks if anyone could provide any direction. I've read through-all these threads and it seems jumped.
THANKS!
The file you're looking for is in this post.
Also, try using a cheap usb card reader... many reports of issues burngin and reading these cards with internal card readers.
That thread was the one I needed! Thanks so much man. I appreciate it!!!
Hi! I just recently rooted my tab and flashed ROM'd it to the new Flexreaper ICS,
previously my external HDD worked perfectly fine with my tab. But now when I connect it to the tablet it shows that little notification in the bottom that says something like "connected USB something" sorry if it's inaccurate for like 1 second and then it disappears as it appears, I've tired formatting my HDD to FAT32 and NTFS and yet still no sign, I used that apk called NTFS mount, but still no sign. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Can somebody please help me out it's kind of driving me nuts here!
Thank!
- Kami
you can re flash or use this link below it will help on anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699277
I don't get it....Haha...My tab isn't bricked...it just has that one issue where it can't read external HDD like it use to :S But thanks for the advice...
Just try a reflash
Alright I'll give that a try and get back to you asap!