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Hi,
I have a little problem that I am sure there must be an easy solution to!
I have set up a VPN on my Universal to connect to work. The problem is that my work's VPN server allocates me an ip address in the 10.x.x.x address range. All servers that I need to access behind the VPN have addresses in this range as well. Unfortunately, my ISP (T-Mobile UK), also allocates an address in the same range. Therefore, whenever I try to acccess a server at work, WM5 suffers confusion since it doesn't know whether to route the message through the VPN or directly out to the internet through the cellular modem.
I have been able to verify that the VPN thing works if my work network was on a different network address since initially, I was unable to VPN into my PC at home for the reason described above. I changed the ip addresses of all machines on my home network and now everything works fine at home.
Unfortuantely, I am unlikely to convince the IT people at work to change the address of all their machines. Similarly, I don't think I will have much success with T-Mobile and so is there anything I can change at my end to avoid this problem?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Mark
Narrowing the ip address may help, eg 10.0.0.1 is different to 10.1.0.1.
are you using this over wifi or gprs? if the phone provider is involved, I assume its gprs.
you could try and esablish your ip address as fixed rather than part of the pool, so the it guys assign a range for remote connections as say 10.0.0.100 to 10.0.0.150 as remote dial in connections, thus giving you a separate number.
the best way though I would have thought is for you to a fixed ip address known to you and the servers, and then hard type the ip address as your vpn settings, then establish that ip address as part of the exceptions settings.
in order to use exceptions though you have to know the range, or the exact ip address you will be assigned, and must be different to your telco.
not much of a solution, just some suggested areas to look at.
cheers
s.
hi guys, just out of curiosity what software are you using for VPN? on my laptop my company has installed cisco vpn, does it need to be a cisco vpn for wm5?? :?
From bad to worse...
Thanks for the reply Simon.
Unfortunately, I just went to try out some of your ideas and discovered that I can't get the VPN to connect at all now. It used to connect OK but then have routing problems whenever I tried to access anything. And my home VPN worked perfectly. Now, I can connect to neither.
I simply switched over to an O2 sim and with minimal configuration changes could verify that my setup still works OK and so it must be something to do with T-Mobile blocking ports. They weren't blocked yesterday!!!
Yesterday I "upgraded" my GPRS account from T-Mobile's Web'N'Walk to Web'N'Walk Professional and now I find I have this problem. Is this just a coincidence, or could it be that the Pro version has more severe restrictions than the consumer version?
I have emailed Customer Services to see what they have to say.
I will post back when I get a reply from T-Mobile.
mstar, I am no VPN expert, but for me, using a Windows XP hosted PPTP VPN it works after a fashion (above problems excepted!). I am using the VPN client built into Windows Mobile 5. I think you stand a good chance of getting it working using the built-in client.
Mark
I simply switched over to an O2 sim and with minimal configuration changes could verify that my setup still works OK and so it must be something to do with T-Mobile blocking ports. They weren't blocked yesterday!!!
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I've heard on the grapevine that T-mobile have explicitly refused certain types of traffic on the web-n-walk
VOIP is the biggy...
I was seriously thinking about getting signed up - but no point if IPSEC is a prob, as well as VOIP.
Not sure how they can tell it's Skype traffic :?
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/05/09/t-mobile_bans_voip/
for more info
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An update on my VPN problem. Yesterday after total failure to get the VPN to connect, I emailed T-Mobile customer services.
Although they have not replied, when I tried it this afternoon I found that it was working again as before even though it had not been working first thing this morining. Of course I have not changed anythng at my end to cause it to break and then start working again (but they all say that, don't they!).
So, I don't know whether this was just a momentary fault, or whether T-Mobile have changed something to re-enable the VPN ports for me. I can now VPN in to my home PC, but the problem connecting to my work VPN with the 10.x.x.x address remains.
So, Sikkutz, depending on the address of the remote network, you may or may not be able to get a VPN to work using T-Mobile's Web'N'Walk.
By the way, my VPNs both use Microsoft's PPTP and not IPSec and so there may be different issues with that protocol.
I have discovered that O2 provides a separate acccess point, vpn.o2.co.uk, that causes a public ip address to be allocated to the device, ie not on the 10.x.x.x network. It would seem that this is designed to address this very problem. Does anyone know if T-Mobile can provide something similar?
Mark
There must be a solution
Hi!
I have the same problem with my Qtek 9000 (VPA IV). I can connect to my VPN Gateway but the routing into LAN failed. I get a 10.x.x.x address from Vodafone Germany and my LAN uses 10.98.8.X. :-(
But there must be a solution! My previous Qtek 9010 (VPA III) had the same problem, but it was able to route between the 10.-networks after a firmware-upgrade to version 1.40.01! But I don't no why!
What was changed in firmware to enable routing???
Daniel
i have the same issue aswell, I am reluctant to change the IP range of my machines as that usually causes trouble for the servers
Any other ideas?
Thanks
maybe stupid thing, but did you guys try dna forwarding (that is what I use from home office, not on pda to be honest..
Maybe I just did not get your point....
What kind of VPN server do you use? I'am using a Cisco PIX and use a PPTP VPN almost everyday. I can use the 10.1.x.x network at the location the PIX is located (this PIX is directly connected to the 10.1.x.x network).
I can't however use any of the remote offices using 10.2/10.3.x.x etc.
This is becaus of the lack of routing abilities in the PPTP implementation.
With an IPSEC tunnel (additional software needed) the remote offices can be reached without any problems.
I know that some IP implementation disallow routing between a public address and any 10.x address. To solve this you could give your VPN clients an address from a 10.x subnet .
hi sorry been away awhile,
I use the routing and remote admin snapin of Windows server 2003 to manage my VPN, I can connect fine using the phone as a modem with my notebook but as soon as I try accessing any URL/resource on my network it fails, e.g. we have a intranet site on http://servername but it wont open this up.
Any Ideas?
Hello,
Well I hope I'm putting this post in the right place, if not please move it. I have a 8525 with cingular. I need vpn access for my office connection from my laptop. We use a Fortiwifi 60 with the Forticlient software for VPN access. I used it with the old wireless modem settings on my 8525 and it worked with both wap. and isp. I recently upgraded to the new offical rom and used it fine (without trying the VPN access) for a few weeks. I went on my first trip last week and could not connect to the vpn. It would verify PSK and X-AUTH but fails to pull an ip address. I tried it with a static ip and it failed as well. When I check my connection monitor it shows no data coming back from my vpn gateway. I tried it on the hotel's internet and it works fine. I also tried another wifi signal and it worked as well. I changed the media net settings to go through isp instead of wap but that didn't help. Does anyone else have this problem with there VPN settings? I wonder if it is the new type of connection sharing or a change to the Cingualr network? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
dechutes said:
Hello,
Well I hope I'm putting this post in the right place, if not please move it. I have a 8525 with cingular. I need vpn access for my office connection from my laptop. We use a Fortiwifi 60 with the Forticlient software for VPN access. I used it with the old wireless modem settings on my 8525 and it worked with both wap. and isp. I recently upgraded to the new offical rom and used it fine (without trying the VPN access) for a few weeks. I went on my first trip last week and could not connect to the vpn. It would verify PSK and X-AUTH but fails to pull an ip address. I tried it with a static ip and it failed as well. When I check my connection monitor it shows no data coming back from my vpn gateway. I tried it on the hotel's internet and it works fine. I also tried another wifi signal and it worked as well. I changed the media net settings to go through isp instead of wap but that didn't help. Does anyone else have this problem with there VPN settings? I wonder if it is the new type of connection sharing or a change to the Cingualr network? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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I had the same problem with another IPsec client with this ROM. For some reason I could not get Internet Connection sharing to work when connected via USB. Bluetooth pan worked. The VPN client was not binding to the ICS/usb adapter. I have since upgraded to WM6...Sleuths ROM...and USB/ICS now works.
Well I tried the phone on another computer and the vpn works just fine. I guess it's something on that computer. Anyone have any ideas? I'm going to try reinstalling the virtual adapter in hopes that it is a binding issue (thanks to tco for that). I'll let you know if I figure it out.
Hi!
I have been trying to connect to my to vpn pptp server (witopia.net) for 2 days. I tried every combination that i could think, but there must be something i am doing wrong. I think the mobile is trying to connect to the vpn server through gsm because everytime i try to connect the gsm signal bars disappear for a few moments. How can i make sure that the vpn connection goes through wifi?
I have managed to actually connect to the vpn server, but i cannot access websites like facebook and youtube from the Leo (I live in China and they are blocked). I am able to access blocked services through my iphone and laptop through the same vpn connection.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
PPTP on WM6 is a major problem. Especially if the server (and most do) required MPPE. Its one of the few niggles I have about WM. If you own the server your best setting up the conection using L2TP/IPSEC.
Or if you dont own the VPN server, and have a server laying around the house (as I do) you could set up your server to use the PPTP VPN then set there server as a Proxy, and connect WM6 to the server via proxy...so basically WM6>Proxy>VPN>interwebs
Hi Jagnet, Thank you for your reply.
Unfortunately i am not able to use Ipsec/L2TP in China, only PPTP works fine with blocked sites.
After trying many combinations, there is a step that i havent been able to figure it out.
Once i am in Start > Settings > Connections (tab) > Connections (icon) > Advanced (tab) > Select Networks, How do i select the WIFI connection in "Programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using" opcion? . On the modem tab i only can choose "celullar line", "Celullar line (GPRS)" or "Hayes Compatible on COM1:", there is nothing about WIFI there, so when i try to connect at the vpn server specified in "Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using", the phone seems to be trying to connect via GPRS.
¿Any ideas?
Thanks
joaquinmora said:
Hi!
I have been trying to connect to my to vpn pptp server (witopia.net) for 2 days. I tried every combination that i could think, but there must be something i am doing wrong. I think the mobile is trying to connect to the vpn server through gsm because everytime i try to connect the gsm signal bars disappear for a few moments. How can i make sure that the vpn connection goes through wifi?
I have managed to actually connect to the vpn server, but i cannot access websites like facebook and youtube from the Leo (I live in China and they are blocked). I am able to access blocked services through my iphone and laptop through the same vpn connection.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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having similar issues with HD2. CMCC as well, in China.
I am getting a proxy IP address if I check on ipchicken.com, etc
but I am not able to open FB.
I am not using the PPTP option, but using their SSL service with
openVPN. but STILL not working..
right now on support chats with witopia.
VPN PPTP is simply broken in WM. It will work, but only with no encryption at all, which beats the purpose.
First of all sorry for bumping this old thread. But I have been looking and it seems kinda close to what I`m doing, oh a little new to vpn.
I have managed to sucessfully connect the HD2 via VPN in connections only when on the lan (outwith I need to contact O2 to get it enabled apparently). I setup a dialup connection in Win 7; HD2 says I`m connected to the VPN.
However heres the thing. Am I right in thinking that folders by default have to be shared. Therefore when using resco I can see network folders anyway, when connected to wifi.
So how would I prove that I can see folders shared to the VPN and not on the LAN as I cant seem to prove whether I`m seeing the folder via LAN and not on the VPN?
Sorry if its confusing but perhaps you get my drift? Or am I missing the point entirely....
All
I have my htc setup to both internet sharing and Wi-Fi connection on my work PC with a lan connection. On both of these connections e.g. wired USB and wireless i can get the internet for about 3 minutes then it stops working. Is there some sort of block? I did see a while back that the WiFi app has no restrictions...
Any help would be superb.
Cheers
Baker0
Thats a little odd, there is certainly no block and I have had the wifi router running for a good 30-40 minutes without failing.
what part is failing, is the phone no longer running the wifi router, or is the pc no longer getting internet on that network connection?
If you need help on how to find this info just reply and I can walk you through some more diagnostic steps.
The phone is still running just the internet stops on the machine. I have to stop the wi fi on the phone then start again then connect. I think it might be t-mobile but the internet on the phone is fine
are you in the uk?
if you connect your laptop to the phone via the wifi router you should be able to right click the network logo, click on status and view the wifi network info, it should tell you in there if it has internet access on that network connection.
If you try this again and when it fails check this status window and see if windows is seeing an internet connection or not?
when the net fails again try and visit http://72.14.203.100/ (this should be the google homepage) if you see google then there is a dns problem if it still says network timeout or failed to connect or something like that then we will have to dig further.
LOL thanks for your help. I am in the UK. ive been working in IT for the last 12 years and I know and have done the test, its not the machine it has something to do with the phone or t-mobile network
Sorry to hijack your thread a little, but I'm on the T-Mobile Network in the UK too (except I'm using a Touch Pro with a custom ROM), and although I can make connections from the PC to websites using the IP address, the DNS isn't working so I can't resolve domain names.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Steve.
Baker0 said:
LOL thanks for your help. I am in the UK. ive been working in IT for the last 12 years and I know and have done the test, its not the machine it has something to do with the phone or t-mobile network
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It must be the phone then since I do use wifi router, I am on t-mobile and in the UK and I do not experience this :S
I seem to be saying this more and more but maybe you should try a hard reset and see if that fixes the problem?
StevePritchard said:
Sorry to hijack your thread a little, but I'm on the T-Mobile Network in the UK too (except I'm using a Touch Pro with a custom ROM), and although I can make connections from the PC to websites using the IP address, the DNS isn't working so I can't resolve domain names.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Steve.
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This is likely an issue with the way your machine has been setup to connect to the wifi network. Try visting the properties of the network and vieing the dns settings for the tcp/ipv4, It should be set as Obtain DNS server addresses automatically. If it is set like this then try setting it too 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 these are googles, dns servers if this works for you then you could stick with this or do some further digging as to why you are not getting the dns server addresses automatically like you should be.
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This is likely an issue with the way your machine has been setup to connect to the wifi network. Try visting the properties of the network and vieing the dns settings for the tcp/ipv4, It should be set as Obtain DNS server addresses automatically. If it is set like this then try setting it too 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 these are googles, dns servers if this works for you then you could stick with this or do some further digging as to why you are not getting the dns server addresses automatically like you should be.
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Setting the DNS entries to Google's makes it work, but attempting to get the DNS Server's automatically leaves me with no ability to resolve domain names. How strange?
Thanks for the workaround, not sure where to start looking to fix it properly.
Cheers,
Steve.
Hey guys,
I am new to this wifi router thing and got the following questions:
1. To be able to use it, you must have data connection with your provider. Am I right?
2. By any chance, can I use this system by using a sim taken out of a prepaid mobile broadband dongle and inserted into my device (htc touch HD)?
3. Once I get connected can I surf the internet/check emails etc from within the device itself without the need to use a laptop?
Please don't mind these basic stupid questions.
cheers
After searching and trying out several ways to connect my GT to my school's proxy authenticated wifi network I gave up. Then I thought about my ipod touch, registered my wifi mac address with the IT guys and voila it was so easy to configure proxy just my entering user name and password I I can surf.
Now why on earth did android neglect the proxy wifi I have no idea. Furthermore, the adhoc wifi does not also work OTB and will only work if rooted. Why?
I am beginning to regret purchasing android device.....
Hi, what is the specific problem-is it connecting ok to wireless but not authenticating to your web proxy server? apps like asproxy ( http://alsubang.github.com/ASProxy/index.html) should work, but haven't tried it myself....
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I have tried asproxy and it did not work. And yes it connects to the usual hotspots like starbucks. I am also rooted so I am able to connect to adhoc from my nokia phone(joiku hotspot).
I also know some friends who have the 10.1 and the asus transformer and they also cannot connect to the schools proxy. A visit to the IT department confirmed that Android is not supported.
A lot of people in our community are already put off getting an android device because of this.