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Wtf Nexus one worth 270 dollars?

So, I just sold my baby to my mom because I am leaving for the Navy in January. I'm still using the phone until I leave, but I sold it for a cool 150. I thought it was a fair price. However, I just came across this site called buymytronics and their site says the phone is worth $270! I checked the price on both the HTC HD2 and the 16 GB Iphone 3G, both only fetch about 120 in flawless condition.
I know Nexus's(Nexi?) are sort of a collector's item now that they are discontinued and only around 130,000 sold in the US(Pcworld article is my source). I just thought it as kinda interesting that some random site is willing to pay 270 for a phone when others of similar spec and much more popular are going for less than half of that. I almost want to contact the people that the site and ask WTF is up with that.
Oh, well I guess we can all revile in the fact that we have the the phone with the best resale value on the market However, if you are looking to upgrade, that Nexus S looks pretty sick, now might be the time to sell it to this stupid site.
Btw, I know multiple people who have sold electronics on this site, so it's not some cheetos covered nerd in his basement BSing all of us.

Which version was it..T-Mobile or ATT? You can still get the Tmo version by being a developer I'm pretty sure. Not sure where you can still get a New N1 with ATT bands though. That may increase its value?

I had to hunt down my 3 N1s I recently got and spent around $350 each and thats considered a great price. Mine were in brand new condition, with no scratch or mark anywhere. 1 of them has some dust on the bottom of the screen. Ebay sellers with good feedback get $380+ on mint condition tmo n1s, $400+ for att versions.

I sold mine last week for $500 AUD ($502.25 USD) and was the T-mobile model.
Not bad considering I paid $600 AUD for it 6 months ago. They are holding their dollar value really well in Australia.

i bought mine off someone on CL locally about 3 weeks ago for 300 with the box and all accessories, it was in good condition but had been dropped once and has a few dings from the fall as well as a small scratch on the screen. it was a screaming deal for sure. most people want at least 350 if not more. most t-mobile ones on ebay sell for around 400 and broken ones will sell for anywhere from 100-200+ dollars (i know i bought and resold a broken one hoping to fix it but ended up finding the one i got now for 300)

saint327 said:
Which version was it..T-Mobile or ATT? You can still get the Tmo version by being a developer I'm pretty sure. Not sure where you can still get a New N1 with ATT bands though. That may increase its value?
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It doesn't specify which carrier it is. It just pops up the HTC Google Nexus One. I tried searching for a T-Mobile Nexus One no luck same listing.

Frito11 said:
i bought mine off someone on CL locally about 3 weeks ago for 300 with the box and all accessories, it was in good condition but had been dropped once and has a few dings from the fall as well as a small scratch on the screen. it was a screaming deal for sure. most people want at least 350 if not more. most t-mobile ones on ebay sell for around 400 and broken ones will sell for anywhere from 100-200+ dollars (i know i bought and resold a broken one hoping to fix it but ended up finding the one i got now for 300)
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That's crazy. Mine is in mint condition. I have never dropped it on a hard surface; carpeted only and that was only a couple of times. I guess my mom got a killer deal. I told her she needs to take care of it. If Nexus phones keep value you never know I might make money off of it one day. I will probably buy it back from my mom once I get back from RTC because I will have a ton a money and nothing to do with it.

i just paid $400 on ebay for my att n1, mint condition with CM6.0 and root already loaded up... i considered that a great deal, since i had been seeing plenty of att n1's goin for $450-500.
these are great phones, and that guy got a steal even for a tmob version.

Never sell your nexus one. It was the beginning of an era. It belongs in a museum.

jivemaster said:
Never sell your nexus one. It was the beginning of an era. It belongs in a museum.
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+1
Let's create a Google museum ^^

ryan22158 said:
So, I just sold my baby to my mom because I am leaving for the Navy in January. I'm still using the phone until I leave, but I sold it for a cool 150. I thought it was a fair price. However, I just came across this site called buymytronics and their site says the phone is worth $270! I checked the price on both the HTC HD2 and the 16 GB Iphone 3G, both only fetch about 120 in flawless condition.
I know Nexus's(Nexi?) are sort of a collector's item now that they are discontinued and only around 130,000 sold in the US(Pcworld article is my source). I just thought it as kinda interesting that some random site is willing to pay 270 for a phone when others of similar spec and much more popular are going for less than half of that. I almost want to contact the people that the site and ask WTF is up with that.
Oh, well I guess we can all revile in the fact that we have the the phone with the best resale value on the market However, if you are looking to upgrade, that Nexus S looks pretty sick, now might be the time to sell it to this stupid site.
Btw, I know multiple people who have sold electronics on this site, so it's not some cheetos covered nerd in his basement BSing all of us.
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I am just wondering wht you would call it a "stupid site" seems to me it is a site that knows what it is doing!

haha this thread is pretty interesting. Idk how much my rooted running CM6 would cost. been dropped a few time and there is one small scratch on the bottom. overall it's great though. especially i take care of the screen even though the multi-touch is crappy as hell but just a small problem. I paid $30 for a piece of sticky plastic made by zigg to cover it. but all the deals you guys been saying would probably be half of my nexus two. only if the nexus two will rock my face like my baby N1 did. otherwise I'm keeping it.

oh yeah thumbs up for the Google Museum

ryan22158 said:
So, I just sold my baby to my mom
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You sold your mom your phone?

sabo2000 said:
I am just wondering wht you would call it a "stupid site" seems to me it is a site that knows what it is doing!
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The funny thing is it is a stupid site. They will pay me a whole 47 or something odd dollars for my mint condition Nook. I freaking paid 185 for that new. I paid 550 for my Nexus and they will give me half that. Roughly, they are willing to pay 20 percent more on the dollar for my Nexus than my Nook even though the Nook is in better shape and has less wear. Also, the suckers that out right bought an Iphone, or even signed a two year contract, get only 120 for their phone. I just wish I had more obscure tech than this site is willing to buy for top dollar.
I like the idea of a Google museum. I had a G1, one of my brother's friends has a Cliq, my old boss has a MT3G. Most of those are antiques by now. I say we start tomorrow lol

androidlicious said:
You sold your mom your phone?
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Hell, I needed the money. I sell all my old tech to my family. I figure I can keep tabs on my family's tech needs better if I already know how to run it all. I'm the only tech savvy one in a family of 12, so there is a lot to do. So, I cut operating costs, opps I meant time lol, by letting them use the stuff I already had fun with. My Zune 32 Gb is going to my dad, and my computer is going to my sister when I leave in January for the Navy. Now they can call me any where in the world and I will understand what the hell they are going through. Although I really wish they didn't. I'll probably running a nuclear reactor or something when my mom calls to whine about how the touch screen is going out of wack on my old phone.

Well does anyone have one that they want to sell cause I would like to buy
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never sell! You can't even get the ATT version any more can you?
This is honestly the first phone I've EVER owned that is COMPLETELY scratch-less almost a year after purchase... that's taking absolutely NO special care of it either... I treat this thing like it's a set of car keys and FLAWLESS even today. That's the majority of the incentive for me hanging on to it for so long and not jumping to another phone... prior to this I was changing phones 3-4 times a year all 500+ a pop.

vegasdgk said:
Well does anyone have one that they want to sell cause I would like to buy
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I could probably convince my mom to sell you mine. However, the price just went up 250 dollars. lol!

Wow, I got lucky and sold mine for a cool $560 two days ago. phew

Nexus S = Rip off?

Hey guys, ordered this in the UK but I'm hearing so many bad things about it.
No Gorilla glass
GPS problems
Feels cheap
Plastic
Crap camera
.....and so on!
£549 quid this cost me and feels like with all the comments it's only worth half that.
To those who own the handset, what's the build quality like and is it simply a good handset to justify the price?
Thanks

£549 is definitely far too much in my option. Simply because it's nearly £150 more than it's being sold for in the US.
My N1 set me back £412 after shipping and taxes.

Rusty! said:
£549 is definitely far too much in my option. Simply because it's nearly £150 more than it's being sold for in the US.
My N1 set me back £412 after shipping and taxes.
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Yeah I'm trying to stop myself from cancelling the phone and just picking up a Desire HD, seems like I get more for less money if you get me.

recklesslife85 said:
Hey guys, ordered this in the UK but I'm hearing so many bad things about it.
No Gorilla glass
GPS problems
Feels cheap
Plastic
Crap camera
.....and so on!
£549 quid this cost me and feels like with all the comments it's only worth half that.
To those who own the handset, what's the build quality like and is it simply a good handset to justify the price?
Thanks
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I can really understand your point, but this is google's phone, it will be updated constantly and all problems rectified quickly, i think it was rushed out for christmas..... HTC phones or Samsung phones are also not without their problems, and i think we are looking at the negatives too much without enjoying the many positives.
549 IS a rip off, thats understood... But we have to understand that the 330 pounds plus VAT & Shipping from the US will add to the price. There is no doubt that this phone is the best Android phone to date, we just need to give Google time to iron out the errors.
GPS is working fine with 98 percent of devices, which sort of falls into line with what we see with other devices.
When you get your phone, enjoy your purchase, and then wait for the next nexus, which will probably be next xmas to upgrade again. I have told myself now that nexus phones are the only way to have a good google experience. HTC phones have major build quality and hardware flaws, and coupled with there inability to even put a decent screen on their flagship device should be seen as showing exactly what they think of their customers. LCD on the Desire HD = Joke. It looks like someone threw domestos bleach over the screen from an off straight viewing angle, lol
Enjoy your device man... Because there is nothing better atm Well at least untill the next Nexus drops;P
JD

I got mine in US. It is no Rip Off this is by far the best Android far i have used and i just came from a NexuS One. It is a good phone Im enjopying every moment of it. People just want too much. Even if it had all the stuff u mentioned people would STILL cry. You would'nt understand until you have it in your hands on it.

The price in the US is $529 which is £340.78. How much is the VAT, 17.5%?
The correct price in the UK should be £400.42.

shrivelfig said:
The price in the US is $529 which is £340.78. How much is the VAT, 17.5%?
The correct price in the UK should be £400.42.
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Add around 50 quid for each phone to ship and CPW's large cut,
the phone's fair price should be 499.99
But alas, we do not live in a fair world.
JD

Thanks for all the messages guys.
The price is rather shocking here in the UK 'like everything' so I'm kind of used to that. Sounds very cheaply built which I find very, very worrying for the price.

JupiterDroid said:
I can really understand your point, but this is google's phone, it will be updated constantly and all problems rectified quickly, i think it was rushed out for christmas..... HTC phones or Samsung phones are also not without their problems, and i think we are looking at the negatives too much without enjoying the many positives.
549 IS a rip off, thats understood... But we have to understand that the 330 pounds plus VAT & Shipping from the US will add to the price. There is no doubt that this phone is the best Android phone to date, we just need to give Google time to iron out the errors.
GPS is working fine with 98 percent of devices, which sort of falls into line with what we see with other devices.
When you get your phone, enjoy your purchase, and then wait for the next nexus, which will probably be next xmas to upgrade again. I have told myself now that nexus phones are the only way to have a good google experience. HTC phones have major build quality and hardware flaws, and coupled with there inability to even put a decent screen on their flagship device should be seen as showing exactly what they think of their customers. LCD on the Desire HD = Joke. It looks like someone threw domestos bleach over the screen from an off straight viewing angle, lol
Enjoy your device man... Because there is nothing better atm Well at least untill the next Nexus drops;P
JD
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Well said...I also decided to get Nexus phones from now on too....

recklesslife85 said:
Thanks for all the messages guys.
The price is rather shocking here in the UK 'like everything' so I'm kind of used to that. Sounds very cheaply built which I find very, very worrying for the price.
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It does feel that way. But the perfomance is just out this world. It actually deosnt feel THAT cheap though

Reasons not to get the Desire HD
May not get Honeycomb officially (will defo get 2.3)
Internal and external speaker problems, and very quiet. Internal speaker has high static jolts when calling over 2g. This is also the same for the Desire Z.
Heavy phone over a large area, 160g.
Scratch the metal back and your phone devalues without possible rectification.
Terrible screen, big but blacks are very bleached and also you have a white hue over the phone when viewing from an off straight angle.
Horrible battery cover, gap in the back part + easily bends and warped....
JD

Smilez_c said:
It does feel that way. But the perfomance is just out this world. It actually deosnt feel THAT cheap though
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Cool, been having a dodgy hour or two thinking about the phone cause I'm snowed in off work. Hahaha
I'll wait and judge when it's in my hands but I appreciate all the good comments guys.

The Super AMOLED screen will awe and amaze you. Fricking gorgeous.
I've also got an iPhone 4, Nexus One, and even a Galaxy S i9000. The Galaxy S and Nexus S are by far my favorite screens. I've also compared them to Desire HD, Droid X and a few others. The MyTouch 4G is the only thing that comes close in my opinion, followed right behind by the iPhone 4, but the iPhone's 3.5" is just too small.
Also, this phone is fast! Screw benchmarks, they're not real-world "feel" of the phone. Out of the box, this NS is as fast as my "lag-fixed" modded overclocked Galaxy S, which has posted Quadrant scores of 2200+.

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Add around 50 quid for each phone to ship and CPW's large cut
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Shipping? From where? It's not made in the US. Shipping from Asia to the UK should be the same as shipping from Asia to the US.
CPW is the UK version of Best Buy. The $529 is including BB's cut, the £400 should be including CPW's cut.
The correct price should be £400. Personally I'd be willing to pay £450, or even £500 if I got it now, before the 20th.

distortedloop said:
The Super AMOLED screen will awe and amaze you. Fricking gorgeous.
I've also got an iPhone 4, Nexus One, and even a Galaxy S i9000. The Galaxy S and Nexus S are by far my favorite screens. I've also compared them to Desire HD, Droid X and a few others. The MyTouch 4G is the only thing that comes close in my opinion, followed right behind by the iPhone 4, but the iPhone's 3.5" is just too small.
Also, this phone is fast! Screw benchmarks, they're not real-world "feel" of the phone. Out of the box, this NS is as fast as my "lag-fixed" modded overclocked Galaxy S, which has posted Quadrant scores of 2200+.
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Now this is a guy to listen to lollol
Experience aplenty
Im sure you will love your device, and the build quality does not look cheap at all to me?
The lightweight feel is how a phone should be, trust me, i have had a 180g desire z for the past two months and my hand really knows about it
JD

shrivelfig said:
Shipping? From where? It's not made in the US. Shipping from Asia to the UK should be the same as shipping from Asia to the US.
CPW is the UK version of Best Buy. The $529 is including BB's cut, the £400 should be including CPW's cut.
The correct price should be £400. Personally I'd be willing to pay £450, or even £500 if I got it now, before the 20th.
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Samsung has big factory's in the USA as well, and if its made in South Korea i bet 1000000's that the USA have big deals with them for tax free importing. I still maintain that 499 pounds is a fair price...
I would be buying mine from my pal ogdobber in the usa but i need to make a purchase in the uk and have an imei number on the reciept to fulfil my requirements for my free insurance with my bank.
Love this phone, and love google
JD

My NS is out for delivery now and I can't wait. I had to return the HD7 after 13 days becuase I could not stand the screen and talk about build quality, the battery cover didn't even line up so you could see the SIM card through the giant gap in the back.

recklesslife85 said:
Cool, been having a dodgy hour or two thinking about the phone cause I'm snowed in off work. Hahaha
I'll wait and judge when it's in my hands but I appreciate all the good comments guys.
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@Reckless
Spoke to CPW customer services at 14:00
Stock expected Sunday for Monday shipping
Should be with you Tuesday at the earliest... You better start shovelling that snow dude
JD

DooLocsta said:
My NS is out for delivery now and I can't wait. I had to return the HD7 after 13 days becuase I could not stand the screen and talk about build quality, the battery cover didn't even line up so you could see the SIM card through the giant gap in the back.
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Yep it was the same with the HD, gonna add that to the list of defect with the phone
Where do you live pal? Your in the USA i presume?
JD

If you're unsure, and own an N1, wait till it gets it's 2.3 OTA update, then go and compare it like for like with an NS in your local CPW.
I plan on doing that even though I'm pretty certain I don't want to get an NS heh

Atrix popularity on question

Hello folks,
On paper, the atrix is very similar to the Samsung Galaxy s2.
I do acknowledge the GS2 is better than the atrix on most scenarios, but I don't think the GS2 should be 700+ bucks or on the other hand the atrix shouldn't be as cheap as 300+ bucks.
I've been checking on the motorola atrix pricing around ebay and I actually made a decent deal. Which brings me to the question. Why is the atrix so cheap and unpopular, when it brings real life performance similar to the GS2 and even more functionality than the GS2 (Atrix docks), all this at half the price of the GS2
What are your thoughts?

It seems that due to the radio frequency only supporting ATT 3G, and also the fact that Galaxy S has a better following than "Atrix" this would support the cheaper price.
If you look up Samsung Focus for instance, you can get one for around $100 and it has a 1ghz processor and 4"amoled screen. (no slouch) but because its WP7 and because it wasnt that popular, you can get it cheap.

it is called free market pricing. Prices are set at point where supply and demand meet. The SGSII is a great phone, and lots of people want it (high demand). It is also very new, and never before released in the US on a major carrier, which means that supply is very low. Both of these two factors push the price of the phone up.
The atrix is a great phone, however there is tons of supply since it has been out for quite a while. This drives the price down.
Another reason, compare the predecessors... Droid X vs Galaxy S. They are both great phones, but in my book the Galaxy S wins 95 out of 100 times. Samsung just makes very refined and desirable phones.
I have an atrix, and anticipate loving it once I get CM7x, but for the past 4 months that I have had it, it has been a lot of frustration.

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it is called free market pricing. Prices are set at point where supply and demand meet. The SGSII is a great phone, and lots of people want it. It is also very new, and never before released in the US on a major carrier, which means that supply is very low. Both of these two factors push the price of the phone up.
The atrix is a great phone also, however there is tons of supply since it has been out for quite a while. This drives the price down.
Another reason, compare the predecessors... Droid X vs Galaxy S. They are both great phones, but in my book the Galaxy S wins 95 out of 100 times. Samsung just makes very refined and desirable phones, as long as you don't care about GPS.
I have an atrix, and anticipate loving it once I get CM7x, but for the past 4 months that I have had it, it has been a lot of frustration.
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brdl04 said:
It seems that due to the radio frequency only supporting ATT 3G, and also the fact that Galaxy S has a better following than "Atrix" this would support the cheaper price.
If you look up Samsung Focus for instance, you can get one for around $100 and it has a 1ghz processor and 4"amoled screen. (no slouch) but because its WP7 and because it wasnt that popular, you can get it cheap.
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Thanks foe the info I'm gonna get one now
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I agree that it's the supply and demand thing.
When I bought mine, almost no official retailer would sell it to me without an activation on Bell. And, it was full price (over $600). Now it's $100 on a 3-year term. I didn't want to wait so I paid the price...

uhm, I think that brings the reason why the atrix is so cheap. I'm not complaining, just wondering.
Anyways, it's better for me and any atrix potential buyer hehehe. I wanted to buy the GS2 but then i realized that the similarly specd atrix was almost half the price. so I went for the atrix, plus the hd dock and the remote control are some nice features.
Have a portable entertainment system that makes calls? that's priceless. And if you are watching a movie on your home teather and have to go, you can just pick up your phone and keep watching in the subway...

Another unmentioned (at least on this thread) factor of the Atrix unpopularity was the fact that it came bootloader locked, which meant that no custom ROM could be installed.
But that has changed now that we have an unlocked bootloader!
Get ready to start seeing more and more custom roms for the Atrix that basically will unleash its true potential.
Stay tuned...
P.S.- For me, more than Atrix specs, Lapdock addon alone blows the SGS2 out of the water easily.

I see them selling for around $550 used here in Canada.

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P.S.- For me, more than Atrix specs, Lapdock addon alone blows the SGS2 out of the water easily.
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That was the selling point for me also. Otherwise I probably would have gone with an iThingy. Once you root the phone to where you can tweak the lapdock packages and add lxterminal, etc, it is a great tool. j
The lapdock/Atrix combo has pretty much replaced my much heavier laptop for everything but astrophotography - and that's only because my astro camera is a firewire CCD which I don't think is ever going to be supported on the Atrix.

I am happy as hell with the Atrix (I like the fingerprint scanner) I was stuck with the captivate and it was horrible because the GPS just didn't work (which i needed). Bottom line buy the phone for the features you need and work well. If you don't need widgets get an iphone, if you don't mind crappy GPS get a Samsung.

with all electronics since the beginning of time new=expensive and not being subsidized by a major US carrier like at&t has a lot to do with it also. i remember back in the day when i bought the HTC Kaiser for $800 before it was release as the att tilt when this happened the price dropped quite a bit, the same will happened with the GS2 when it hits an north american carrier. european phones are generally more expensive since they are not usually subsidized by their carrier and come unlocked.

Higher price doesn't mean if a product is better than its rivals. ip4 is still more expensive than atrix, is it better ?

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Higher price doesn't mean if a product is better than its rivals. ip4 is still more expensive than atrix, is it better ?
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For the average person? Probably. Better pictures, better screen, better battery life, very simplistic GUI. The average person will play casual games on their phone, browse the web, text, and use facebook. That's it. There's a reason why it's still the highest single selling phone on verizon and AT&T even though it's a year old and still costs $200 on contract.

Dont forget the LG Optimus 2x, its a fantastic phone with a fantastic screen, i liked it more than my Atrix but it doesnt support my new network (850mhz)

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I am happy as hell with the Atrix (I like the fingerprint scanner) I was stuck with the captivate and it was horrible because the GPS just didn't work (which i needed). Bottom line buy the phone for the features you need and work well. If you don't need widgets get an iphone, if you don't mind crappy GPS get a Samsung.
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I purchased an Atrix when I finally bricked my Captivate. This is a really nice phone but I miss my Captivate. I'm going to send it off soon and probably go back to it. If you select the right ROM, there are zero GPS issues. I won't lie though, the GPS is amazing on this phone. I really just miss my AMOLED.
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Should I get a DZ?

I currently have a HTC Hero (GSM) and still have a more than 1.5 yrs on my contract and was wanting to get a newer phone since my Hero is getting annoying with random reboots and lag. I can potentially get a DZ for ~$200 and was wondering if it was still a good choice and can/will last the remainder of my contract without getting laggy/unreliable. I want a physical keyboard so it is either a DZ or BB Bold =\
Thanks for the help.

Bold sucks. If you want a good qwerty phone thats new, you can try motorola droid 3. Amazing specs!
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Bold sucks. If you want a good qwerty phone thats new, you can try motorola droid 3. Amazing specs!
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Yeah, but that's a CDMA phone. Since OP is thinking about a DZ, that means he's on GSM.

Stargazer418 said:
Since OP is thinking about a DZ, that means he's on GSM.
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MentalDeath said:
I currently have a HTC Hero (GSM) and ...
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Just thought i'd point that out ;D..
on topic, GO FOR IT! i was in the EXACT situation as you but 6 months ago. Given the same situation now, i'd still go for the DZ. I NEED a hardware keyboard and we don't have the mt4g up in the north. Though you probably could just order one in from the states, but the DZ is much better than the mt4g IMO. There is no other phone out there IMO that beats the DZ in terms of capability, design and inclusion of a hardware keyboard.. that is.. until the G3 comes out =p
side note: DO NOT get a BB.. ANY sort of BB.. NONE of their batteries last past a year and they tend to crap out just outside of the mfger's warranty period. All my friends who have BBs love it for BBM for the first 6 months, then it starts crapping out and i laugh in their faces because android is king.

MentalDeath said:
I currently have a HTC Hero (GSM) and still have a more than 1.5 yrs on my contract and was wanting to get a newer phone since my Hero is getting annoying with random reboots and lag. I can potentially get a DZ for ~$200 and was wondering if it was still a good choice and can/will last the remainder of my contract without getting laggy/unreliable. I want a physical keyboard so it is either a DZ or BB Bold =\
Thanks for the help.
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if its DZ vs. BB Bold its not even a question to get the DZ. Definitely wouldn't pay over $200 for one this late in the game though, make sure you get a good deal.

Thank you all for the feedback I really appreciate it and now I really want this phone once again (I wanted it really badly when it first came out)
martonikaj said:
if its DZ vs. BB Bold its not even a question to get the DZ. Definitely wouldn't pay over $200 for one this late in the game though, make sure you get a good deal.
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Well $200 is the best deal I've found so far (on Kijiji) the person says it is brand new since they got it from a warranty claim.

MentalDeath said:
Well $200 is the best deal I've found so far (on Kijiji) the person says it is brand new since they got it from a warranty claim.
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Yea brand new $200 is about right. Used/roughed a bit is worth less obv.

martonikaj said:
Yea brand new $200 is about right. Used/roughed a bit is worth less obv.
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Alright awesome, here's hoping they response to my msg asap.

Athrun88 said:
Just thought i'd point that out ;D..
on topic, GO FOR IT! i was in the EXACT situation as you but 6 months ago. Given the same situation now, i'd still go for the DZ. I NEED a hardware keyboard and we don't have the mt4g up in the north. Though you probably could just order one in from the states, but the DZ is much better than the mt4g IMO. There is no other phone out there IMO that beats the DZ in terms of capability, design and inclusion of a hardware keyboard.. that is.. until the G3 comes out =p
side note: DO NOT get a BB.. ANY sort of BB.. NONE of their batteries last past a year and they tend to crap out just outside of the mfger's warranty period. All my friends who have BBs love it for BBM for the first 6 months, then it starts crapping out and i laugh in their faces because android is king.
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My mom has the blackberry bold and she has gone through about 6 or 7 of them, for your own sake, just dont.

MentalDeath said:
I currently have a HTC Hero (GSM) and still have a more than 1.5 yrs on my contract and was wanting to get a newer phone since my Hero is getting annoying with random reboots and lag.
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Yes, do it! I did the exact same thing as you in late June. I had my Hero (from TELUS) for about 14 months at that point, and picked up a DZ locally for just under $200, unlocked. Rooting it is a bit hairy compared to the Hero, but a good exercise to go through. My DZ was originally purchased from Bell, the guy I bought it from had it on his Rogers account, and now I'm using it with my TELUS SIM. I sold my Hero and accessories for $150, so net upgrade cost was $50 and I avoid having to renew my contract.

Funny, I upgraded to Desire Z also after having a HTC Hero for 1,5y
I would recommend DZ, I use it over a month now and i'm satisfied.
The only thing is of course the battery life, but it depends on how intensive usage you plan.
The keyboard is OK, only thing I miss is directional arrows (pretty uncomfortable to use the d-pad when you have hands on keyboard). Don't worry about the dedicated number row, it's not needed. You can write numbers with Fn key on with no problem.

martonikaj said:
Yea brand new $200 is about right. Used/roughed a bit is worth less obv.
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Retail or with contract??

DoubleYouPee said:
Retail or with contract??
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I am pretty sure he is talking about buying privately.
Anyone want to sell me a DZ for ~$200? No one on Kijiji is responding to me

MentalDeath said:
I am pretty sure he is talking about buying privately.
Anyone want to sell me a DZ for ~$200? No one on Kijiji is responding to me
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Most of the private sellers on eBay/CL/Kijiji are pricing their secondhand DZs around $250 to $300 or so. I lucked out with an eBay seller who setup an auction with no reserve and no BIN, and not many people bidding on it, so I managed to get it for just under $200. Local pickup too, so I could verify it worked with my SIM.
There are a few DZs up for auction right now from Canadian sellers, sitting at around $100. Make sure you're not bidding on an "as-is" phone.
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Deprecation

Im going to go on a 24 month contract, looking at S3 or maybe the One X. What I'm worried about though is I bought my current Sensation XE SIM free for £450, about 6 months ago and now they are selling for about £200-250 I think.
Will the S3 keep its value better? How did the S2 hold value? New to Android, had iPhones before which Sid hold value well I thought
Cheers

The second buy a smartphone it is basically worth half what you paid for it. Fact of life. Doesnt really matter what you buy.
If you happen to buy something good though it will maintain that value for a year probably.
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Expect the S3 to quickly lose value after autumn where superior devices will be released... Performance wise this device is sadly not as future proof as the S2 was at its release.

hefonthefjords said:
The second buy a smartphone it is basically worth half what you paid for it. Fact of life. Doesnt really matter what you buy.
If you happen to buy something good though it will maintain that value for a year probably.
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Except for an iphone.
Depending on how you got it, it actually rauses in price.
$1 gets you a reply

Certain phones are more desirable than others and therefore hold their value well on ebay and such.
GS2 is still one of the more desirable ones and can be sold for £250+ on ebay or recycled for £230. (after around 18 months)
Personally I reckon the GS3 will be just as popular and will hold its resale value well.
Obviously it's not in the iphone levels, but normal consumers know the galaxy s brand and it will probably stay in relatively high demand until the GS4
I see the HTC One X selling for £300 BNIB on ebay.. Although it's an excellent phone, I don't think it will be as lucky as the GS3

only apple products keep their market value because of the fact that apple uses price fixing tactics.

Yeh Apple do keep better price, I don't think I'll buy another or brand new again unless part of a contract as looks like I'm going to lost about £225, 50% after 6months

Sad fact
It is actually a sad fact to see the Galaxy S series loses value more than the iPhone series, simply because I think that Galaxy is so much better in terms of flexibility and "mod-ibility".

Apple products hold their value better because there are alot of idiots with more money than sense.

AndreiLux said:
Expect the S3 to quickly lose value after autumn where superior devices will be released... Performance wise this device is sadly not as future proof as the S2 was at its release.
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Not necessarily true, the SGSII hasn't lost a lot of it's value just look online therefore i doubt the GS3 will

Depreciation.
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Kailkti said:
Except for an iphone.
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hboos said:
Certain phones are more desirable than others and therefore hold their value well on ebay and such.
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Slight correction: phones with less competition better maintain their price (because there are fewer alternatives). The moment that viable competitors come out, the price will drop.
The iPhone is sufficiently differentiated, through brand alone, that many consumers are willing to consider it apart from all the competition. And Apple is smart enough to limit competition with itself by only releasing once in a gray moon. (Also by suing the hell out of everyone who has the audacity to release a rectangular phone.) So there you go.
MrMrMr111 said:
Yeh Apple do keep better price, I don't think I'll buy another or brand new again unless part of a contract as looks like I'm going to lost about £225, 50% after 6months
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You could be on the receiving end of this trend if you want; just wait a few months and you can buy it for hella cheap. It's sort of a gamble though; the Galaxy S2 held up price pretty well (it's differentiation was probably beat only by the iPhone or the Note), and it remains to see whether the S3 can do the same.

Mr Woolf said:
Depreciation.
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Or... defecation.

thebobp said:
Slight correction: phones with less competition better maintain their price (because there are fewer alternatives). The moment that viable competitors come out, the price will drop.
The iPhone is sufficiently differentiated, through brand alone, that many consumers are willing to consider it apart from all the competition. And Apple is smart enough to limit competition with itself by only releasing once in a gray moon. (Also by suing the hell out of everyone who has the audacity to release a rectangular phone.) So there you go.
You could be on the receiving end of this trend if you want; just wait a few months and you can buy it for hella cheap. It's sort of a gamble though; the Galaxy S2 held up price pretty well (it's differentiation was probably beat only by the iPhone or the Note), and it remains to see whether the S3 can do the same.
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Fair enough but I would suggest that the Galaxy S series has reached some level of brand recognition..so that when lay consumers (rather than us tech geeks) think of the best phones available, they think first of the iphone and then of the galaxy S series.
I reckon that after the initial depreciation (from selling second hand), the GS3 will hold its value well until the next GS phone..
Or at least I hope it will because I'll be getting a GS3 once it comes out!

The Galaxy S II was so good because it was better then every other phone on the market, the Galaxy S III is just a bit better, or at least on par with other phones now.

What other phone is faster than the SG3? What other phone dose what the SG3 dose?
Anyhow the SG2 is still selling for loads and even phone recycle places pay over £200

50% drop?
Then that means it is down more than 50%

juDGEY2k10 said:
What other phone is faster than the SG3? What other phone dose what the SG3 dose?
Anyhow the SG2 is still selling for loads and even phone recycle places pay over £200
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Not right now, but just wait and see. Even the dualcore S4 Krait matches its speed on certain tests, there will be more ARM's A15 chips coming in near the future.
That is not to say its a bad phone, but it's not a major leap like the SII was. The price is already a give away imo, $700 after VAT, so before that its cheaper. The Nexus and Note was $800 when they were released. I think that's simply a good thing though since phones were getting too expensive. We have the OneX at $600, S3 at $700, Nexus at $400. I think its positive for consumers, could be $50 lower still.
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Depreciation.
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When I saw the title I was wondering what's being condemned.