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I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
I dont want to get it if it wont work since I dont want to be on slow EDGE for ATT and dont want to pay a premium if I am going to use TMOBILE service anyways.
Thanks.
tosh1 said:
I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
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Simple Mobile is intriguingly priced.
The Nexus One will never work on the HSPA+ network any faster than the regular HSPA network; the hardware isn't HSPA+ compatible.
tosh1 said:
I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
I dont want to get it if it wont work since I dont want to be on slow EDGE for ATT and dont want to pay a premium if I am going to use TMOBILE service anyways.
Thanks.
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if your phone providers works on 900/1700/2100 then it will work for you, else no
Simple Mobile is a T-Mobile reseller so yes it will work.
Since it is a Tmobile phone it seems like 3G should be good.. how about HSPA+???
I know the Mytouch4G is good and the G2 but nowhere does it say on the NExus S it is HSPA+.... anyone know if that will work at the SUPER FASTER SPEEDS?
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Since it is a Tmobile phone it seems like 3G should be good.. how about HSPA+???
I know the Mytouch4G is good and the G2 but nowhere does it say on the NExus S it is HSPA+.... anyone know if that will work at the SUPER FASTER SPEEDS?
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the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*
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the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*
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Man u should have waited for your 1000th post for something better.... thanks anyways and congrats...
I wasn't even aware that the standard 3G can go that fast... thats plenty fast... I thought the 7.2 is HSPA+ speed....
Now Im really excited if I can even get 4+...
thanks.
tosh1 said:
Man u should have waited for your 1000th post for something better.... thanks anyways and congrats...
I wasn't even aware that the standard 3G can go that fast... thats plenty fast... I thought the 7.2 is HSPA+ speed....
Now Im really excited if I can even get 4+...
thanks.
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HSPA maxes out at 7.2mbs, HSPA+ at ~22mbs but the MT4G/G2 max at ~14.4mbs if i recall correctly.
On average, I see around 2.5mbs to 3.8mbs on my Nexus which was about the same as I was seeing on my MT4G oddly enough. The G2 was getting 4-8mbs
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HSPA maxes out at 7.2mbs, HSPA+ at ~22mbs but the MT4G/G2 max at ~14.4mbs if i recall correctly.
On average, I see around 2.5mbs to 3.8mbs on my Nexus which was about the same as I was seeing on my MT4G oddly enough. The G2 was getting 4-8mbs
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I seem to get faster speeds on my NS than i did on my N1
Your going to have a ballin' phone and run bootleg service? Makes no sense to me. If price is a issue why by a 529$ phone?
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I seem to get faster speeds on my NS than i did on my N1
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Yep, same here. My Nexus One barely pulled >1mbs. Everyone hails that phone as the greatest thing since sliced bread, and don't get me wrong it was pretty damn great, but it had several flaws too such as the poor 3G reception I'm citing here.
Simple mobile gets t-mobile speed. I am proof that this work. Everything works except 4g since nexus s doesn't have that but I get amazing 3g speed.
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the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*
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I would be happy with a consistent 3.0mb. within a span of 3 miles I can go from 5mb to less than 1mb and lots of areas still are edge
last time i did a speed test maxed out at 2.8 Mbps down on Wind Mobile
and it was even less on Rogers / Fido, so i'm very happy
So finally pulled the trigger... TRUE 3g speed on this phone. I couldn't be any happier.
Only problem is T-Mobile network isn't the largest so I have a lot of edge network areas. When 3g is running its pretty darn quick though.
All for 60 unlimited....
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tosh1 said:
So finally pulled the trigger... TRUE 3g speed on this phone. I couldn't be any happier.
Only problem is T-Mobile network isn't the largest so I have a lot of edge network areas. When 3g is running its pretty darn quick though.
All for 60 unlimited....
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Thats awesome. I have been contemplating getting SIMple Mobile for use on my MT4G or G2, but, I have been thinking about getting a NS to use on SM.
Do any of the Visual Voicemail apps work on this (or any T-Mo phone) using SIMple Mobile? It is my understanding that any FlexPay or Pre-Paid providers cannot offer any type of Visual Voicemail services. I know, Google Voice would work ok, but I'm not happy with their UI, and other aspects of GV.
If any Visual Voicemail apps would work with SIMple Mobile, flawlessly, then I'm sold on both SM & NS.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Just figured I would give you guys thinking of moving to Simple a heads up. Their "unlimited" data is capped at 1GB. There have been reports of them shutting down your service once you reach this and charging you for prepaid data to continue use. Do your research before you jump especially if you like to tether or do a lot of streaming.
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Just figured I would give you guys thinking of moving to Simple a heads up. Their "unlimited" data is capped at 1GB. There have been reports of them shutting down your service once you reach this and charging you for prepaid data to continue use. Do your research before you jump especially if you like to tether or do a lot of streaming.
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I've read the same thing on HowardForums. Since it's prepaid, you can pay for the service but they can disconnect the data anytime they want during that month.
I'm paying $55.99 a month on a non-contract basis right now, gives me 500 minutes and unlimited data. For SMS I simply use Google Voice which is free. I use it as my primary number instead of the T-Mobile one. I don't know my T-Mobile number even.
So for $60 a month, seems like Simple Mobile is more expensive and its very likely that Simple Mobile's contract for data is rather expensive hence why they cap at 1gb of data. I wouldn't expect you to ever be allowed to go past that given that MVNO's make much less profit overall.
I considered it, but quickly abandoned the plan. If it was actually cheaper (for me) I'd be willing to try it.
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So for $60 a month, seems like Simple Mobile is more expensive and its very likely that Simple Mobile's contract for data is rather expensive hence why they cap at 1gb of data. I wouldn't expect you to ever be allowed to go past that given that MVNO's make much less profit overall.
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Woah 1GB data cap? Seems like a plan that would be good for parents, grandparents, or busy businesspeople who don't have the time/desire to do anything but light data use.
Glad you mentioned this, I was actually thinking of trying out the service.
Anybody notice 3G to be a bit slow lately? I used speed test awhile back and got 1.5mbps, now I get half that! Not cool.
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Anybody notice 3G to be a bit slow lately? I used speed test awhile back and got 1.5mbps, now I get half that! Not cool.
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Fluctuation in speed will happen. Try it again in a hour and see what you get. Did you run the speed tests in the same location.
I've been seeing more and more of these threads popup. Something is up.
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Maybe this..
http://www.bgr.com/2010/11/23/att-and-sprint-petition-fcc-for-spectrum-exchange/
My 3G speeds were bad all of Dec. now they're good.
Didn't mean to add another thread. Was going I wasn't alone on this. I've gone through 3 different roms and a slew of kernels thinking it was them. Bummer.
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during the day my speeds are decent, in the evenings once everyone gets off work my speeds slow to a crawl.
Just now....
david279 said:
Just now....
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What prl and radio do you have?
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What prl and radio do you have?
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All the latest...
I actually got 1.12mbps couple minutes ago. So I guess its nothing I should be concerned about.
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Think you have it bad, look at this ****. And can someone explain to me why when I open speedtest all of the servers are in europe?
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Think you have it bad, look at this ****. And can someone explain to me why when I open speedtest all of the servers are in europe?
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Wow! That's actually what I was seeing earlier. Don't know what's going on cause soon as I made my post that I was getting 1.2mbps, it dropped to nearly nothing. Smh..
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Think you have it bad, look at this ****. And can someone explain to me why when I open speedtest all of the servers are in europe?
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Same thing is happening to me.
Like I said something is up. Sprint data used to be the best in NYC. Man, I also wish that they upgraded to Rev. B for the next flagship phone. I know, wishful thinking but Id prefer that over WiMax for everyday use
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markushi said:
Same thing is happening to me.
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+1....Whats up with that???
markushi said:
Same thing is happening to me.
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Check your mobile internet settings. I just flashed cm7 and it has a couple of new selections...like international roaming, which was preselected. Also, it was preselected to roam on national affiliate networks. Since a lot of these roms are from people "across the pond" as they say, it will default to their servers. So, de-select those options and it will find a server closer to where you live. It is pretty kewl as it does switch to another network, but it is only 1rt speed, not 3G, so it didn't make my connection any faster. There are several threads out there on this about slow 3G speeds. I can only hope that with the 4G coming online, maybe the spectrum will open up to allow faster 3G speeds.
Lol glad im not the only 1 seeing this.. I was testing my connection in Germany yesterday LOL...
Tho even swapped back to the closest server (Germantown WI) , my speed still sucked..So I called sprint when I got home and told him my results compared to an ATT and Verizon phones while they were right next to me, and they were 6-7x faster then mine.
The CSR told me that its possible with northern Ill. getting 4G its working its way north into Wisconsin,and that could be affecting towers here while they transition..
Frankly I dont buy it. 2-3 weeks ago it was great, since then, 360kb is common. Also in the phone call I told him that I have no issues paying the $10 premium data charge, but if my phone keeps chugging along as it is now, I will be calling back since there is no way in hell I can take advantage of this "premium data" when I cant even watch a video on YouTube without constant pauses and other downloads basically crawling along.
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Lol glad im not the only 1 seeing this.. I was testing my connection in Germany yesterday LOL...
Tho even swapped back to the closest server (Germantown WI) , my speed still sucked..So I called sprint when I got home and told him my results compared to an ATT and Verizon phones while they were right next to me, and they were 6-7x faster then mine.
The CSR told me that its possible with northern Ill. getting 4G its working its way north into Wisconsin,and that could be affecting towers here while they transition..
Frankly I dont buy it. 2-3 weeks ago it was great, since then, 360kb is common. Also in the phone call I told him that I have no issues paying the $10 premium data charge, but if my phone keeps chugging along as it is now, I will be calling back since there is no way in hell I can take advantage of this "premium data" when I cant even watch a video on YouTube without constant pauses and other downloads basically crawling along.
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I chatted with a rep last night and they gave me the whole "there are no issues" song and dance. Clearly with so many people noticing this in so many different areas there is SOMETHING wrong with Sprints network. Either that or theyre throttling their speeds thinking people wont notice.
The csr i spoke to said he was going to push something thru to my phone and I should reboot it..which I did..
I see somewhat of an improvement at home (I THINK theres a relay on the watertower near my house but im not sure) and its now about 1.4mb down...Tho most of my issues are when im away from home and not near WiFi lol
I really hope Sprint isnt pulling a ninja throttle job on us to ease up the network for all the new subs
My friend is selling his for $100 and if it works well for att, sounds like a good deal to me.
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It would work but you'd be limited to edge, no 3g.
Yeah I know, thats why im a little iffy. Im just wondering if anyone knows how fast 2g speeds are on it. If theyre decent then I cam get rid of this piece of crap aria.
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Not great, but usable for most things. Anywhere there's wifi it wouldn't matter anyway. Most coffee shops, lots of restaurants, hotels, even McDonald's has free wifi now.
So then it will run like as if I put my aria on 2g speeds?
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EDGE is usually about 15kb/s tops. Very doable for casual use, just don't expect to use video chat or YouTube on it much outside of a WiFi hotspot.
A hundred bucks? Even you can easily resell it for some profit, LOL. But yeah, grab it first, think n decide later ...
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EDGE is usually about 15kb/s tops. Very doable for casual use, just don't expect to use video chat or YouTube on it much outside of a WiFi hotspot.
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It will be slightly faster than that just because the phone itself is so insanely powerful, but data should be about the same.
Vanquiz said:
A hundred bucks? Even you can easily resell it for some profit, LOL. But yeah, grab it first, think n decide later ...
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Agreed.
I put my AT&T sim in to test.
Full Edge signal strength, three tests, about 2 min apart, same location, phone on desk.
download/upload in kbps
96/112
43/40
195/112
I'm not sure whats causing the variance in the results.
Back to tmob and 3300kbps download speeds.
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I put my AT&T sim in to test.
Full Edge signal strength, three tests, about 2 min apart, same location, phone on desk.
download/upload in kbps
96/112
43/40
195/112
I'm not sure whats causing the variance in the results.
Back to tmob and 3300kbps download speeds.
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Ew. Yeah that's not even usable...
Well im pretty pumped up about this phone anyway, so ill buy my way out of at&t and switch to t-mobile
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Well im pretty pumped up about this phone anyway, so ill buy my way out of at&t and switch to t-mobile
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It's worth it. As soon as my gf's contract is up I'm getting her her own MT4G. She loves MySense!
We all know their network sucks right now, including myself, but Sprint is working on this. They are rolling out what's called "Sprint Vision" (and forgive my lack of technical know-how) basically they are adding some "boxes" with multiple "cards" that can be inserted in them allowing for better/faster coverage in multiple directions that can easily be fixed if one goes down by simply replacing this "card" (something to this degree). The full "vision" has not been rolled out yet and is mainly the cause why the speeds suck right now.
Oh God.... This sounds like they're trying to whip up a janky version of a CMTS (Cable Modem Termination System).
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Oh God.... This sounds like they're trying to whip up a janky version of a CMTS (Cable Modem Termination System).
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Hopefully it works lol
sounds like a band-aid to plug a hole.
Hopefully. I would like higher speeds than 400kbps plskthx.
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Hopefully. I would like higher speeds than 400kbps plskthx.
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hell id be happy with that lol im getting 100k or less some times
I read the announcement on this... its actually pretty good. The towers will now only need one refrigerated smaller box to do 4g 3g and 1x(saves energy and space) they will use fiber cables to the top instead of copper for less signal lose. They will need less towers because this one can do all of it.
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What's wrong with this setup? The cable co's use it, and in most instance it works well. The issues occur when there's over saturation - not enough blades to handle the load. Speeds go down, noise goes up, speeds go down more so... Perpetual cycle.
In fact, I recently had an issue with my cable provider where during prime time hours, speeds would drop 25-40% or more. At first look it would appear to be a capacity issue, but in my talks with the head of local operations, that wasn't the case. Plenty of capacity in this area to go around. Turned out during prime time, due to additional load, a failing card/blade (not the one I was connected to) was generating noise, which ultimately was causing my issues. They replaced the offending part, returning my speeds back to 20mbps at all times of the day.
Bottom line, who cares what method they use to increase speeds and bandwidth, so long as it works and is consistent.
Well it makes sense here..whatever it is...they might have it done in my area of Chicago....because a couple weeks ago 3g improved in a major way. Data downloads fast here now.
rockky said:
Well it makes sense here..whatever it is...they might have it done in my area of Chicago....because a couple weeks ago 3g improved in a major way. Data downloads fast here now.
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What speeds are you getting down in chicago? I'll be switching to sprint pretty soon so im kinda curious
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What speeds are you getting down in chicago? I'll be switching to sprint pretty soon so im kinda curious
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+1 i want to know what your speeds are
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+1 i want to know what your speeds are
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Yeah I would like to know too and I hope they do something about the 3g speeds in NYC / NJ .....its been horrible the last few months.
Yeah. Right.
If you're in an area where Sprint leases tower space like I am, you'll likely see this around the 34th of Never.
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Yeah. Right.
If you're in an area where Sprint leases tower space like I am, you'll likely see this around the 34th of Never.
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3-5 years, starting in 2011.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/news/sprint-announces-network-vision-network-evolution-plan.htm
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
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Yeah. Right.
If you're in an area where Sprint leases tower space like I am, you'll likely see this around the 34th of Never.
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Didn't Sprint sell off all their towers to TowerCo in 2008, and leases all of them?
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Didn't Sprint sell off all their towers to TowerCo in 2008, and leases all of them?
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They do lease them. They still get to decide what goes on the towers.
afazel said:
Didn't Sprint sell off all their towers to TowerCo in 2008, and leases all of them?
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They didn't even have any to sell here. IIRC nTelos owns all the towers Sprint uses in WV.
I can vouch that my 3G signal is much, much nicer, it was upgraded in my area about a week ago. (And no, I'm not using an Airave.)
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They do lease them. They still get to decide what goes on the towers.
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I heard Verizon is leasing many Sprint towers - Although I could be wrong.
Overstew said:
I can vouch that my 3G signal is much, much nicer, it was upgraded in my area about a week ago. (And no, I'm not using an Airave.)
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What area are you in?
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So I'm currently using the Motorola Atrix on AT&T and I will be selling it for the N4. I was just wondering if I will have any problems using it with at&t or something. My contract ends in 5 months and I will be going prepaid after that. Thanks.
No problems, other than you won't have LTE. You have to set the APN manually as well, before data works. But calling works right off the bat
I wonder if it will work on Medianet, or if At&t will flag them all right away.
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No problems, other than you won't have LTE. You have to set the APN manually as well, before data works. But calling works right off the bat
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I would be surprised if Google didn't add AT&T's APN by default. Surely you aren't correct about this (not that it matters).
You will also need to pay $27 to get your sim changed to a micro sim... (EVEN if you buy it before hand...)
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I would be surprised if Google didn't add AT&T's APN by default. Surely you aren't correct about this (not that it matters).
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he is...
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You will also need to pay $27 to get your sim changed to a micro sim... (EVEN if you buy it before hand...)
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Really? Dang I thought they would give it for free
Also, I will also be upgrading from the atrix to the nexus 4 too.
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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
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Really? Dang I thought they would give it for free
Also, I will also be upgrading from the atrix to the nexus 4 too.
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When I switched from the HTC One X to the Galaxy Nexus they gave me the new SIM for free.
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Really? Dang I thought they would give it for free
Also, I will also be upgrading from the atrix to the nexus 4 too.
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They will replace your SIM for free if you go to an official AT&T store. If you go to an "AT&T Authorized Retailer", then they may or may not do it for free.
Go here: http://www.att.com/storelocator/
Look at locations near you, and go to one that says "AT&T" and not one that says "AT&T Authorized Retailer", and you should be good.
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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
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really? this has to be the dumbest question ever. maybe some people, like me, are locked into a contract. maybe some people, like me, don't want to lose the "unlimited data". maybe some people actually get better reception for phone calls with AT&T in their area.
did you ever stop to think about some basic things like this before you just spouted off nonsense? yeah... didn't think so.
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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
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lol yeah okay because I'm sure T-Mobile's HSPA+ will defiantly get you 42Mbps all the time. Those are theoretical speeds... HSPA+ is HSPA+
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really? this has to be the dumbest question ever. maybe some people, like me, are locked into a contract. maybe some people, like me, don't want to lose the "unlimited data". maybe some people actually get better reception for phone calls with AT&T in their area.
did you ever stop to think about some basic things like this before you just spouted off nonsense? yeah... didn't think so.
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E-X-A-C-T-L-Y. I am on AT&T too, and yup. On a contract, I have unlimited data, and my area gets pretty decent-great reception, so HSPA+ even at 21Mbps will do me well. And the point that it is unlocked, and it being a high spec phone for 299-349 $ blows my mind. Selling my S3 for this! I don't even have LTE in my area, so its al good! Gotta love a nexus! Pure Vanilla Android at its best.
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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
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Many places, Tmo service simply does not work. I know of three people in last year who returned Tmo phones because they couldn't make calls from their house. It's great if they have the coverage, but...
Yes if you go to a att store they should give you one for free. They gave me one when I bought the gs3 off contract. He just asked if I needed a sim I said sure and it was quick and free.
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Yes if you go to a att store they should give you one for free. They gave me one when I bought the gs3 off contract. He just asked if I needed a sim I said sure and it was quick and free.
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^ this is good info. I just called the att STORE down the road and they said just come in and they will give it to me free.
The deal is, I'm a paying customer. They don't give a shyte about anything else. Especially when Someone like me can just change to straight talk and walk away..
This aint my first rodeo.