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Hey everyone,
Since the Android platform is so open to developers, is it simple to port the HTC Sense UI over to say the Motorola Droid? I know the Motorola is not what this forums is about, but is the UI something that can be extracted and put together for the Droid? I love the Sense, but those specs of the Droid really have caught my eye.
Let me know.
im not soo sure of this but that Motorola Droid looks bloody good! Really nice device, huge screen and it is one of the few Droid phones around that has a flash (LED i know but better than none)
is there going to be gsm version of droid?
shah_vm said:
is there going to be gsm version of droid?
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Yes. There have been several images on sites showing it over the last couple of days.
Aspesi4 said:
Hey everyone,
Since the Android platform is so open to developers, is it simple to port the HTC Sense UI over to say the Motorola Droid? I know the Motorola is not what this forums is about, but is the UI something that can be extracted and put together for the Droid? I love the Sense, but those specs of the Droid really have caught my eye.
Let me know.
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Something I would like to know as well.
blazingwolf said:
Something I would like to know as well.
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Me too! Also if Motoblur will be easily ported.
shah_vm said:
is there going to be gsm version of droid?
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Yes, but we don't know about the 1700 Band yet.
Aspesi4 said:
Hey everyone,
Since the Android platform is so open to developers, is it simple to port the HTC Sense UI over to say the Motorola Droid? I know the Motorola is not what this forums is about, but is the UI something that can be extracted and put together for the Droid? I love the Sense, but those specs of the Droid really have caught my eye.
Let me know.
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i doubt it anytime soon...first the droid would need to be rooted first then devs can start buildin on it.
I guess DROID will have a better version of MotoBlur. And it can be better then Sense.... This is just my guess.
Actually since it is a Google Experience device it will NOT have motoblur on it.
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Actually since it is a Google Experience device it will NOT have motoblur on it.
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Why "Google Experience device" does not have MotoBlur ?
Is Moto Cliq not "Google Experience device"?
I understand, "Google Experiance (enabled) device" means it has Google's Closed-Source Applications / LIbraries installed, includes Android Market access, Maps, Gmail, Youtube, Google sync, etc.
.... Am I wrong?
setupr said:
Why "Google Experience device" does not have MotoBlur ?
Is Moto Cliq not "Google Experience device"?
I understand, "Google Experiance (enabled) device" means it has Google's Closed-Source Applications / LIbraries installed, includes Android Market access, Maps, Gmail, Youtube, Google sync, etc.
.... Am I wrong?
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I was wrong, my dear.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=26759
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Somehow, Android 2.0 includes MotoBlur's framework in it.
Basic idea of MotoBlur is to integrate phone and social network sites.
This is what Android 2.0 got, and 1.6 did not have at all.
I am thinking Android 2.0 is a better integration of Android 1.6 and MotoBlur.
I dont know how possible this is going to be.
From what i remember reading the sense ui, is dependant on the HTC framework which is a large part of the rom.
Its not just a question of ripping bits out, as is seen with WinMo and TouchFLO.
This is why sense hasnt been ported out to the g1 and instead the are ripping hero roms out and getting them running.
Not sure if the moto blur has the same frame work dependancy as the sense ui does.
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This is why sense hasnt been ported out to the g1 and instead the are ripping hero roms out and getting them running.
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wow really... u just made urself look dumb.
hero has been ported. sense roms has been ported. enough said
brian_v3ntura said:
wow really... u just made urself look dumb.
hero has been ported. sense roms has been ported. enough said
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...That's what he just said. Instead of ripping Sense alone, they're ripping the entire rom is what he was meaning.
brian_v3ntura said:
wow really... u just made urself look dumb.
hero has been ported. sense roms has been ported. enough said
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Please try and read my post and understand whats being said. That way you wont find the need to make sarcastic comments, its not particulary helpful for anyone else trying to follow the thread.
Just so you know Sense UI isnt a ROM, Sense (aka Rosie) is HTC's Custom UI for Android, closed source im affraid so no direct porting on the any other handset, all you can do is modifiy another phones ROM to run on your hardware.
Is it possible to PORT Sense UI to other devices such as the Sony Ericsson X10, Dell Mini 5 etc?
I really Fancy a Dell Mini 5 but i seriously want Sense UI. I couldnt go back to the Android without it. I wish the Supersonic would just hurry up. I want an Android phone with at least a 4" Screen running Android 2.1....
over at alldroid.org, there is a group of developers under the name Zeusdroid that are working on porting SenseUI over and nearly have it completed besides the RIL or the Radio Interface Link. Due to HTC's special configurations of their ROM that tie into the Radio, there has been some issues with it switching between 3G and 1X to make outgoing calls and then not being able to receive incoming calls.
If there are any season software engineers out there that would be willing to mod the existing RIL to work with the SenseUI rom, please head over to alldroid.org and seen a PM to Greek35T, thegeektern, Birdman or myself.
Thanks,
tallnerd1985
Sorry... but I'm new to the Droid community, but not new to modding.
I've already been through 6 ROMs on my phone... right now on UltimateDroid. It's alright... I need better though.
I've been looking all over... and alldroid is dead. Sadly.
Does anybody know where there might be somebody still working on this and getting it fully functional on the MotoDroid?
I would really love to have SenseUI. And be OCed as fast as I am (Quadrant has BCed me at 1500+ w/ Chevy's 1250 ULV).
Let me know guys... Thanks!
WOW thread necromancy.
There is a user over at droidforums that is working on a sense ui port on the droid 1 from the incredible.
He has a flashable version right now that phone and text work on but no data.
Check this thread.
I have been on XDA since I bought my fist G-1 way back in the fall of 08. Cyanogen was a budding star, and Android was thought of as the "IPHONE killer". I have seen many developments since my first incursion into these forums. With that said, I would like to KNOW why someone cant come up with a ROM on the evo that could be based on Android, yet be completely skinned to give a more exciting experience. The thing is most ROMS are built on many others DEV's works, but nothing but theming is added to make them look different from each other. Yes, I know that there are a lot of under the hood changes going on to make their Roms faster, but nothing to make any Rom look different. I see some launchers out there that are awesome, but why cant someone come up with something that will really show off "Something different"
Before you go on about me and that you don't like what I am saying, point me to SOMETHING ANDROID, really different and don't attack me or this thread. I appreciate all of the hard work put into changing the Roms into your own, I have flashed most of the Roms built for the Evo and earlier Android devices. What I want is something that looks and act different, built on Android. I am hoping that I have just missed a posting, or some cool thread that someone has left. I strongly dislike IPHONE and its simple stupid approach, so please don't bring that platform into this discussion. Waiting to see!
Try MIUI. Its in the Development section.
You can also take a swing at compiling a ROM yourself, I've been considering it given the tools are free.
MIUI in its native form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-9T44Bt7M
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With that said, I would like to KNOW why someone cant come up with a ROM on the evo that could be based on Android, yet be completely skinned to give a more exciting experience.
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Go ahead.
Great thing about Android...you don't like it...you can change it...for free!
It's easy to criticize.
Little harder to actually do.
mattykinsx said:
Go ahead.
Great thing about Android...you don't like it...you can change it...for free!
It's easily to criticize.
Little harder to actually do.
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Your right, about asking me to go ahead, all the tools are there. I think what I will use this discussion for, is compling info for doing just that. I am not KNOCKING anyone elses work.....
Noiro said:
Try MIUI. Its in the Development section.
You can also take a swing at compiling a ROM yourself, I've been considering it given the tools are free.
MIUI in its native form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or-9T44Bt7M
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Exactly the kind of answer I am looking for, thanks for taking the time to reply.....
I just started using MIUI yesterday and it is an eye opening experience. So many nice features that are built right in. If you haven't tried it... give it a go.
Besides roms like MIUI and MYMs warm 2.2, dev's leave the theming to you! You can load the rom you would like and then find a theme that fits you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870944&highlight=liquid+rush
this is a port from the acer liquid metal, i think you will find it interesting/different.
Is there a dev working on a ROM like MIUI that completely changes the UI? I do agree with the OP because all the ROM are pretty much the same except for the color theme.
I think we will have to wait until SPB drops their software for customizing.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870944&highlight=liquid+rush
this is a port from the acer liquid metal, i think you will find it interesting/different.
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Agreed, this is something completely different than what you're used to.
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+1 for MIUI. Been running it since the beginning of November and I must say it's pretty awesome.
I totally agree. I have seen many roms for the evo, but many of them look very similar to each other. I'm glad this topic is being discussed in a rational matter. I hope new ideas will come from it.
I remember seeing a few articles about a mobile OS on engadget a few times before it was announced that it was killed off. It was minimalistic to its roots. The video demo I saw of it activated the menu when you slid your right thumb(right-handed demo i guess) and a arched menu would pop up. You would be able to dig deeper by going through the brances of the arcs. I for the name of it but the name "Elise" or something like it comes to mind.
If anything is lacking it's kernels for the Evo.
We have like one choice for sense based and like two for AOSP based.
The Epic has more choices... [and that's saying something]
MIUI, Liquid rush, and to be honest there are some nice sense roms out there. i like sense , also if the new launchers that are being created come out, that can give you a new look as well. There is probably a significant amount of changes, however with this being aftermarket and not supported by OEM's and sprint i think that kind of limits your choices
You might like myn's warm two point two, it still retains the sense features from htc but has a totally different look and feel to it. Also checkout virus rom, those are pretty nice. A lot of people here are into switching roms each week to keep things interesting.
The two big ones that are not sense based are miui and cyanogen. I think the reason they take so long to make and that there is so few is the complexity of starting from scratch. At least I think, but I'm not a programmer.
Sent from my hand.
mattykinsx said:
If anything is lacking it's kernels for the Evo.
We have like one choice for sense based and like two for AOSP based.
The Epic has more choices... [and that's saying something]
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Thats because the mods keep on banning our best kernel makers.
Hero_over and Kingslik(sp?) both made the best kernels during their time on XDA/Evo.
King was a hack, hero was a beast
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Thats because the mods keep on banning our best kernel makers.
Hero_over and Kingslik(sp?) both made the best kernels during their time on XDA/Evo.
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jerryparid said:
Thats because the mods keep on banning our best kernel makers.
Hero_over and Kingslik(sp?) both made the best kernels during their time on XDA/Evo.
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I know. I'm just making an observation on the current reality
I can't really disagree with you but I think the reason why lots of the ROMs look alike is Sense. That said, I've been on MIUI since it came out. While others will scream that it's just copying iPhone, maybe it is but the ROM still retains all the benefits of android underneath.
Also, if it's just the launcher, I've tried out the Go Launcher and liked it the best. Again, it's not the same-old same-old.
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Is there a dev working on a ROM like MIUI that completely changes the UI? I do agree with the OP because all the ROM are pretty much the same except for the color theme.
I think we will have to wait until SPB drops their software for customizing.
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I agree with you on SPB, it's a wait and see, I tried to be a bete tester for them, but I didnt get accepted. I have used it on my winmo devices in the past. Not sure what kind of experience though maybe just a nice launcher. I have to admit though I haven't tried MIUI, I do believe I will flash it later tonight.
I just wanted to get a feel/consensus on peoples opinion of the third party rom scene for the EVO. I started my XDA days back with a tilt, and have been loyal to HTC since then.
The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
Almost every rom I've looked at here has been so customized and themed they are really just eyesores. It was normal on all my other devices to have some of the roms that were being produced be like this, but not all. I've been really impressed in the past with HTC roms. Dutty is one of my favorites.
The only 2 current exceptions I've found are CM and Fresh, and since some of us refuse to use sense, it really only leaves one choice.
CM is awesome, and the work that goes into it is really really amazing. There isn't a bunch of customization to the UI, it's left up to you what you want to do for how your phone looks. It's a rock solid foundation to build upon, and it would be awesome to see more roms in that form.
Thoughts? Am I missing something?
This is the wrong section, the General section would be the appropriate section for this.
this should be in general, but i agree it seems that lots of roms out there are just customizations of existing roms, a color change here and there. There really isnt anything major to differentiate between sense roms, except for 3 or 4 big ones, and then there is CM rom, and the roms based of CM seem like just themed version of CM, but who knows i mean im not a developer, maybe theres only so much one can do as far as development.
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The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
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Thoughts? Am I missing something?
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Better get started developing.
What else do you want the ROM's out there to do?:
OC: Check
Undervolt: Check
AOSP Builds: Check
Open Source 4G: Check
De-odex: Check
Wide Variety of Themes: Check
Open Source FM Radio: Check
Wireless Tether: Check
Wired Tether: Check
Gingerbread: Check
AND THE LIST GOES ON...
What I'm trying to say is, unless your speaking specifically about HDMI, there's really not a lot left to be desired that can't be had from these phones until Honeycomb hits.
I mean, CM even supports SIP accounts natively...among the millions of other small details that are so amazing.
Even DLNA can be had through a simple app...what's left for you to want so badly that your phone cannot do already?
My point is, is that most devs are not going start over from scratch just for the heck of it, when something so close to optimum potential has already been reached.
Sent from my 4G-Toting, Lightning Smoking, Gingerfied, Cyanogenmodded EVO: Please stand back!
Itotally disagree. I mean, some, yeah, you're right, but look at the mods done to the more popular roms. Not just theming but tweaks, custome apps, etc.
What more do you want form a ROM?
And while, true, some people are married to CM, some are more into Senseui, some Miui.
Everyone has different tastes, and from what I se eon here, there's something for just about everyone.
Thread moved to General.
As per your questions, devs make roms based on their personal taste and, in many cases, general feedback from the users. There are many plain, stock rooted roms out there, and many tutorials in case you want to make your own as well. Also, you can easily theme any rom to your liking. I hope this answers your concern.
i think the ROM's on the evo are pretty strong. My criteria is, do the majority if not all ROM's improve upon stock? Yes. Do the majority if not all the dev's support their ROM's and upgrade in a timely manner? Yes Do the majority if not all the dev's have themes/mods available for their ROMS? Yes. Are there more than one style of ROM's to choose? YES 1. Sense 2. AOSP - MIUI 3. AOSP - CM 4. AOSP - Liquid metal
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I just wanted to get a feel/consensus on peoples opinion of the third party rom scene for the EVO. I started my XDA days back with a tilt, and have been loyal to HTC since then.
The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
Almost every rom I've looked at here has been so customized and themed they are really just eyesores. It was normal on all my other devices to have some of the roms that were being produced be like this, but not all. I've been really impressed in the past with HTC roms. Dutty is one of my favorites.
The only 2 current exceptions I've found are CM and Fresh, and since some of us refuse to use sense, it really only leaves one choice.
CM is awesome, and the work that goes into it is really really amazing. There isn't a bunch of customization to the UI, it's left up to you what you want to do for how your phone looks. It's a rock solid foundation to build upon, and it would be awesome to see more roms in that form.
Thoughts? Am I missing something?
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There are way more. Click my signature and you'll see
my EVO is way cooler than yours
Except your link is broken...
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Yes. MIUI.
the OP ... is expectiong way too much....
you do relize for most.. this is a good little hobby..
so is done around free time...
you want more... you do it! I dont have the skills to even try.
I do appreciate the ones that can... and do.
there are a lot of phones out in the market. and not all phones even have a dev community.. and if they do, it aint that big.
so there are different levels of dev support from phone to phone.
EVO, is way up there in the level of quality devs and community support.
Fixed my sig, forgot i changed the link. But there are a Sh*t ton of choices, my count is at 144 thus far
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+1... this.
I've had 4 Android phones:
Evo
G2
MyTouch 3g Slide
Moto Cliq
This forum has more roms, kernels, mods, themes, etc than all 3 of my prior phones combined. Every time I hit the dev section I'm a kid in the candy store. There's fully functioning roms that work with everything and a few that I'm excited to see get better, like MIUI getting 4g.
There's very few phones out there with this much dev support, my friend has an LG vortex. Go find the LG vortex section of the forums. They don't exist.
My point, you have to do some digging but there's something here for everyone. If there isn't, make it! We could always use another dev to try to topple the big dogs.
hi, guys. i was about to sell my htc hd2 becuz after modding it, it just fell short of my expectations.. it caused huge batt drain and was slow. i want to give it one more chance. i never installed android on it, but i want to. but, i want an android version that:
1) saves battery life the most, and is fast.
2) and one that looks like the 6.5 stock with sense from the hd2.
if any of you can suggest an android version based on these needs, please let me. thanks.
koolxx said:
hi, guys. i was about to sell my htc hd2 becuz after modding it, it just fell short of my expectations.. it caused huge batt drain and was slow. i want to give it one more chance. i never installed android on it, but i want to. but, i want an android version that:
1) saves battery life the most, and is fast.
2) and one that looks like the 6.5 stock with sense from the hd2.
if any of you can suggest an android version based on these needs, please let me. thanks.
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1) "Android" drains more battery than Windows Mobile, always. The reason I quote it is because Android itself doesn't drain more battery, the user drains more battery. Android is much more versatile and user friendly than any other OS out there so you have more things on it and use it more, therefore...less battery life. Sense roms drain the battery even further, more eye candy/features = more drain. Non-Sense roms drain the least battery and CyanogenMod roms (CM/CM6/CM7 as they're referred to) are a little better than Sense roms when it comes to battery drain (most of the time), however, I prefer Sense as it just looks better and has more handy features; for Sense I recommend CMYLXGO's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159) or CoreDroid's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507) --- I personally use CoreDroid's as CMY's has been giving me crashes when changing notifications and sometimes the dialer hangs, CoreDroid is fantastic though and looks nice with the theming, I'll stick to that for quite a while. As for Non-Sense roms, I recommend HyberDroidGBX (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899).
2) As for one that looks like WM6.5, I don't see it happening. None come like that stock that I've seen and I've never seen a theme that looks like it, in my opinion, it would take far too many apps/widgets to make it look like WM6.5 to keep it stable.
In my opinion, if you want to get rid of you HD2 because of the battery life/speed, you won't be happy with another phone ever again.
I assume this is your first 'true' smart phone, their battery is just as good as an old Nokia/Motorola phone when it comes to standby, but what do you expect when you have a screen 4 times the size and features out the ass? If you want a smartphone AND long battery life, there's one solution...use it for Phone calls only (and render it useless as a smart phone in the process)
The HD2 is an extremely fast phone, it was on the top for speed for quite awhile.
The HD2 was meant for Android, why they limited it to WM blows my mind but it crippled it.
Run Android on your HD2 and you'll be happy; Android beats WM in every way possible IMO, they're almost perfectly stable now too. VERY minor bugs left with these Android builds.
1) "Android" drains more battery than Windows Mobile, always. The reason I quote it is because Android itself doesn't drain more battery, the user drains more battery. Android is much more versatile and user friendly than any other OS out there so you have more things on it and use it more, therefore...less battery life. Sense roms drain the battery even further, more eye candy/features = more drain. Non-Sense roms drain the least battery and CyanogenMod roms (CM/CM6/CM7 as they're referred to) are a little better than Sense roms when it comes to battery drain (most of the time), however, I prefer Sense as it just looks better and has more handy features; for Sense I recommend CMYLXGO's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159) or CoreDroid's (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507) --- I personally use CoreDroid's as CMY's has been giving me crashes when changing notifications and sometimes the dialer hangs, CoreDroid is fantastic though and looks nice with the theming, I'll stick to that for quite a while. As for Non-Sense roms, I recommend HyberDroidGBX (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899).
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thank you for your good input. i think at this point i'm going to sell my phone. this is just too much for me.
In my opinion, if you want to get rid of you HD2 because of the battery life/speed, you won't be happy with another phone ever again.
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thats not true.. i was checking out my friend's iphone 4 and i got to say, i'm addicted to it.
I assume this is your first 'true' smart phone, their battery is just as good as an old Nokia/Motorola phone when it comes to standby,
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actually, this is my 6th phone.
The HD2 is an extremely fast phone, it was on the top for speed for quite awhile.
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thats not true! the iphone beats it in terms of speed. its been tested and proven. i dont mean to advertise the iphone, but based on what i've experienced with and read about it, it comes on top in terms of speed, apps, battery, and stability.
iPhone is actually slower than the HD2 in terms of specs, iPhones just 'appear' faster because iOS is as simple as Windows 95 and Windows Mobile is as slow as...I don't really have a pun for this one but it's slow.
The battery life is based upon the user, I will admit that iPhone's have a little bit of a better battery life (as long as you don't abuse 3/4G).
Keep in mind, you're basing your assumptions about the HD2 off of WM which is slow and lacking features all on its own.
Hey Koolxx glad to see you in the Android forums.
I truly hate to see you say you are considering selling (I read your other thread in the HD2 General forum too) your HD2 as the HD2 is not just your run of the mill smartphone. It was the first in a new wave of smartphones because of the screen size, screen resolution, and 1gz Snapdragon processor. If you take a look at the new smartphones that have been and are being released after the HD2 you will see exactly what I mean.
I loved and still do love Windows Mobile, it was a pioneer as far as a what a truly functional mobile OS should be and the capabilities it has. I have considered several times going back to Windows Mobile since I made the switch to Android, but have not for several reasons.
1. I just can not bare the thought of having to deal with the quirkiness of Windows Mobile, everyone should know what I mean by that.
2. I truly believe Android is the OS of the future. Android is growing at such a rapid pace it is leaving other OS's behind. One reason for this is not because of the popularity of Android but because Android is a open sourced system meaning anyone who can contribute to it as far as improvements and features can. This is what is meant when you hear "When it is no limits to what Droid gets, it is no limit to what Droid does."
3. Android has way more apps, development, and hacking support than Windows Mobile at this point.
4. I am learning everything I can about Android right now as I want to be a developer.
I could give more but those are the basic reasons. If you are still interested in going Android please click on the link in my sig that says "Guide" at the front. It can help you out a whole lot. Plus I have links in there to two of the best guides on installing Android to your HD2. My guide is meant to be more of a educational tool than a tutorial on how to flash Android or WP7.
I know you said you like the iPhone and Apply does have some good products. But I hate Apply because to me they are totally disrespectful to the consumer, you know the people that actually by their products. If I pay a large chunk of money for a device I want to be able to do what I want to with it. Not be told I can only use it in they way that the manufacture or OS developer wants me to. After all I paid my money for the device so it belongs to me not them. I could go way deeper into the conversation but this post is already massive.
Let me know if I can help you out any.
koolxx said:
hi, guys. i was about to sell my htc hd2 becuz after modding it, it just fell short of my expectations.. it caused huge batt drain and was slow. i want to give it one more chance. i never installed android on it, but i want to. but, i want an android version that:
1) saves battery life the most, and is fast.
2) and one that looks like the 6.5 stock with sense from the hd2.
if any of you can suggest an android version based on these needs, please let me. thanks.
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I am not going to argue about the iPhone. I never used it, I don't like it so I have nothing to say about it.
About android.
Really? You want a build which is themed to look like a WinMo stock? Why?
check this thread to see what Android GUI is about and the endless customizations you can do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743301
I cannot accept the fact that you want to sell your HD2 (the only device that support so many OSs) before even trying Android.
I am using Android since the firsts SD build came out and once NAND was out I have never changed back to WinMo.
Battery life for me is better than WinMo in equal use but as hd2k10 said it is the user who is draining the battery and not the OS.
There are Sense, Non-Sence and MIUI builds.
If you want an iPhone GUI you can always check MIUI builds.
koolxx said:
the iphone beats it in terms of speed. its been tested and proven. i
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By whom and when? IMO iPhone 4 is equally fast as HD2 with stock Android. And YES, I have used iPhone 4 a lot (my father owns it and I'm always helping him with something, intuitive OS my a** ) and both phones are just instant. I mean there is no lag at anything. But often iOS has to load something and you just sit there and admire blank screen before stuff appears. Never seen that on my HD2.
Android is as fast as the device it's running on. HD2 is amazingly fast, and so is OS running on it.
koolxx said:
thank you for your good input. i think at this point i'm going to sell my phone. this is just too much for me.
thats not true.. i was checking out my friend's iphone 4 and i got to say, i'm addicted to it.
actually, this is my 6th phone.
thats not true! the iphone beats it in terms of speed. its been tested and proven. i dont mean to advertise the iphone, but based on what i've experienced with and read about it, it comes on top in terms of speed, apps, battery, and stability.
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I Cam buy your hd2, how much do you want for it?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
hd2k10 said:
iPhone is actually slower than the HD2 in terms of specs, iPhones just 'appear' faster because iOS is as simple as Windows 95 and Windows Mobile is as slow as...I don't really have a pun for this one but it's slow.
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i think youre saying that an hd2 with droid may be faster that an iphone. if thats the case, i might agree with you, since i did see gingerbread 2.3.2 on an hd2 and its just incredibly fast!
The battery life is based upon the user, I will admit that iPhone's have a little bit of a better battery life (as long as you don't abuse 3/4G).
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i've never used 3/4g.. i'm on wifi.
Keep in mind, you're basing your assumptions about the HD2 off of WM which is slow and lacking features all on its own.
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yes this is very true. which is why i'm thinking about instlling gingerbread 2.3.2 that some russian guy called imilka has created. it looks VERY fast. i just hope he updated the cam though.. thats the only thing that worries me cuz the cam runs very very slow.
T-Macgnolia said:
Hey Koolxx glad to see you in the Android forums.
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thanks t-mac.. yeah, hopefully droid can save my hd2 from being sold. lets see.
1. I just can not bare the thought of having to deal with the quirkiness of Windows Mobile.
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yeah i know. winmo was a dissapointment for me.
If you are still interested in going Android please click on the link in my sig that says "Guide" at the front. It can help you out a whole lot. Plus I have links in there to two of the best guides on installing Android to your HD2. My guide is meant to be more of a educational tool than a tutorial on how to flash Android or WP7.
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yeah i'm thking about installing gingerbread 2.3.2. it looks very sleek and modern, unlike the other droid builds that are horrible, that look like win '95 and look so nerdy. and thats for the positive feedback. i will install droid. and i appreciate you helping me. thanks, man.
zach.antre said:
I cannot accept the fact that you want to sell your HD2 (the only device that support so many OSs) before even trying Android.
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dont worry, i'm giving my hd2 a 2nd chance when i install droid. then i'll see if i'll give it the axe or breath of life.
There are Sense, Non-Sence and MIUI builds.
If you want an iPhone GUI you can always check MIUI builds.
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wow, theres more to choose from in terms of builds. i didnt know this. i will be chekcing this out.
Just explain me why do you have to post THREE post one after another instead of ONE?
raven_raven said:
Just explain me why do you have to post THREE post one after another instead of ONE?
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if you dont like the way i post, DONT COME to my threads again. youre a pest. go away troll.
koolxx said:
if you dont like the way i post, DONT COME to my threads again. youre a pest. go away troll.
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Hi,
You should use the multi-quote button instead, thats why is there for. Dont offend anyone, thats one of forum rules. He mentioned about it, cause you should keep forumclear and clean.
Back to topic, if you looking for fast, smooth and stable rom, check that one I have in my sig. I use it for months now and Im very satsified. Only you know, what are you looking for. Every rom thread has description of it, what is working and what is not, screenshots and users personal feelings about it. For me instaling Android from scratch to fully working phone is about 20mins and its not difficult. Just read, read and read again. Good luck
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Hi,
You should use the multi-quote button instead, thats why is there for. Dont offend anyone, thats one of forum rules. He mentioned about it, cause you should keep forumclear and clean.
Back to topic, if you looking for fast, smooth and stable rom, check that one I have in my sig. I use it for months now and Im very satsified. Only you know, what are you looking for. Every rom thread has description of it, what is working and what is not, screenshots and users personal feelings about it. For me instaling Android from scratch to fully working phone is about 20mins and its not difficult. Just read, read and read again. Good luck
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using the multi-quote button is to my discretion. and the only one insulting anyone here is raven. hes one of the trolls on my other thread that insulted me. if you want to curtail insults, consult with him, not me.
anyway, back on topic. i checked out the rom you suggested. it looks nerdy, no offense. but i was checking out imilka's Gingerbread on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
i like it a lot. but, the camera has issues. and its based on gingerbread 2.3.3.
i want gingerbread 2.3.4, but i want it looking like imilks'a gingerbread. how can i get gingerbread 2.3.4 installed looking like imilka's gingerbread? let me know and i thank you for your input.
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using the multi-quote button is to my discretion. and the only one insulting anyone here is raven. hes one of the trolls on my other thread that insulted me. if you want to curtail insults, consult with him, not me.
anyway, back on topic. i checked out the rom you suggested. it looks nerdy, no offense. but i was checking out imilka's Gingerbread on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
i like it a lot. but, the camera has issues. and its based on gingerbread 2.3.3.
i want gingerbread 2.3.4, but i want it looking like imilks'a gingerbread. how can i get gingerbread 2.3.4 installed looking like imilka's gingerbread? let me know and i thank you for your input.
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Well, everybody got his own preferences regarding to rom. As for you question, you cant have Android 2.3.4 until imilka release update to his rom. Maybe if you ask in his thread, you should get an answer. Besides, there is not much difference between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4. Just small improvements and bug fixes. Give it a try, you want to sell your HD2 anyway.
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using the multi-quote button is to my discretion. and the only one insulting anyone here is raven. hes one of the trolls on my other thread that insulted me. if you want to curtail insults, consult with him, not me.
anyway, back on topic. i checked out the rom you suggested. it looks nerdy, no offense. but i was checking out imilka's Gingerbread on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989289
i want gingerbread 2.3.4, but i want it looking like imilks'a gingerbread. how can i get gingerbread 2.3.4 installed looking like imilka's gingerbread? let me know and i thank you for your input.
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If you want 2.3.4 you need to go with Unofficial [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940684&highlight=Cynagen+Nighly+7"]Cynogan Nighlies for HD2, NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.7 , or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2. Now as far as getting the look of the Imilka ROM, well his ROM has the look you are talking about because it is based off of the Desire HD and that is the UI the Desire HD has. I do not know if you can get a launcher or theme like that on your HD2 but the chances are very high that you can. You will just have to go into the Android Market and grab some launchers and then look at what themes the launchers offer. Or you can always download a Android Kitchen and start modding the ROM to your liking. Also check out these two sections HD2 Android apps and thems and Android Themes .
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If you want 2.3.4 you need to go with Unofficial Cynogan Nighlies for HD2, NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.7 , or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2. Now as far as getting the look of the Imilka ROM, well his ROM has the look you are talking about because it is based off of the Desire HD and that is the UI the Desire HD has. I do not know if you can get a launcher or theme like that on your HD2 but the chances are very high that you can. You will just have to go into the Android Market and grab some launchers and then look at what themes the launchers offer. Or you can always download a Android Kitchen and start modding the ROM to your liking. Also check out these two sections HD2 Android apps and thems and Android Themes .
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hello once again, t-mac. and thanks for the support. i checked out the links you posted. the droids look good and similar. ok, i got some questions for you:
1) which do you recommend based on my needs of being very fast, no glitches/bugs, and long batt life?
2) i need launchers that look like the Desire HD. hopefully, there are for this droid.
3) can you tell me the advantages of 2.3.4 over 2.3.3?
4) and i see that you on 2.3.3. any reason why you wont switch to 2.3.4?
5) in imilka's gingerbread based on 2.3.3, why isnt the cam working? is there a fix for it?
6) is v2.3.4 the latest gingerbread version?
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hello once again, t-mac. and thanks for the support. i checked out the links you posted. the droids look good and similar. ok, i got some questions for you:
1) which do you recommend based on my needs of being very fast, no glitches/bugs, and long batt life?
2) i need launchers that look like the Desire HD. hopefully, there are for this droid.
3) can you tell me the advantages of 2.3.4 over 2.3.3?
4) and i see that you on 2.3.3. any reason why you wont switch to 2.3.4?
5) in imilka's gingerbread based on 2.3.3, why isnt the cam working? is there a fix for it?
6) is v2.3.4 the latest gingerbread version?
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1) I recommend Cynogan Nighlies for HD2 ( have not tried yet but will soon) or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2 (I have tried and liked it but I was using MAGLDR).
2) As long as the launcher supports the Android version which most launches support all Android versions including 2.3.4 then you can use them on any android device or Android ROM, you get the lauchers from the Android Market or do a Google search for Android launchers and download the .apk file and put it on your SD card and then use a file explorer in Android to find the apk and open it. Andropid will ask if you want to install the apk.
3) I really do not know all the advantages just yet but I know that you can get a couple of themes on 2.3.4 that you can not on 2.3.3. But i am sure there is more differences than that although I highly doubt they are very drastic.
4) The man reason is becaus I have been real busy around my house lately and have not had time to go to a WiFi spot to download some more ROMs. Plus I have been trying to get a Android kitchen up and running on my computer. But I keep getting a damn Bash.exe error saying cynwin.dll is missing from your computer and I have not been able to correct it yet. So you see I have been kinda preoccupied.
5) This I really do not know, I would have to be able to look at his ROM in a kitchen and also use ADB on it to see if I could track down the source of the problem, might would even have to decompile it. You have to remember the Andriod ROMs for the HD2 all come from other devices so they have to be modded to work with the HD2's hardware.
6) Yes 2.3.4 is the most resent Android phone release and it has not been out very long. You do have Android 3.0 Honeycomb but it is suppose to be just for tablets. But devs have been porting it to phones. The HD2 has a 3.0 honeycomb port but it is still really buggy still.
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1) I recommend Cynogan Nighlies for HD2 ( have not tried yet but will soon) or TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.2.2 (I have tried and liked it but I was using MAGLDR).
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hi, t-mac. at this point, i'm confused. i looked at the droids you recommended and to be honest, i'm just not feeling them. i just want a very fast and reliable droid where everything (including wifi and cam) works with no glitches. and one where i can install a theme that looks like the desire hd. if that means installing 2.3.3 instead of 2.3.4, then so be it. but i got to have these conditions met.
i know i'm asking alot out of you. and i appreciate your time. but i just ask for more recommendations based on my needs. thanks man.
I feel like an asshole asking this but I havent been following the MT4G on xda very close (its my wife's). I searched google and couldnt find a flashable zip for a stock MT4G, and when I searched this forum for 'gingerbread' I didnt get a single result. So Im guessing gingerbread is not yet available for stock MT4G's, is that true? Thanks
is it rooted? if so theres a mysense gingerbread leak faux posted. oh yeah Evild did one too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059379
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090098
also panache Canadian mytouch 4g is pure sense.
Thanks, actually no her phone is stock. Id rather not root it, I just wanted to get gingerbread on it if gingerbread is available as a stock zip, Im hoping to resolve some of the bugs on her phone, standard Android software issues really, but annoying nonetheless. It seems like every Android Ive owned (5 all told) have had annoying bugs or hardware flaws, I suppose its still young though, And unlike IOS Android is slapped onto to all kinds of hardware and skinned by all types of inexperienced (software-wise) hardware manufacturers (to that end I wonder if Windows Phone 7 is as stable as IOS, as I understand it WP7 is consistent as in it doesnt have any skins, I could be wrong of course, and its incredibly off topic to boot)....Anyway thanks for any assistance....
ya m buddy has a hd7 he hates it.
tw39515 said:
ya m buddy has a hd7 he hates it.
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Just curious, does he hate it because it lacks features or because it has a lot of bugs, or for other reasons?
features, no flash, hard to add custom ringtones, and needs zune software.