Database Users

So Long and Thanks for all the Fish

Well my trusty hero which I only had for a a couple of months bit the big one yesterday. I went to the Sprint Store to get another one and all they had in stock for Android was a Moment.
So I guess I won't be around here as much.
This community despite some squabbles is incredible. I've enjoyed and appreciated my time here and the help I got.
The moment isn't a bad phone, I just pretend I'm running DarchDroid.
With a keyboard.

gunnyman said:
Well my trusty hero which I only had for a a couple of months bit the big one yesterday. I went to the Sprint Store to get another one and all they had in stock for Android was a Moment.
So I guess I won't be around here as much.
This community despite some squabbles is incredible. I've enjoyed and appreciated my time here and the help I got.
The moment isn't a bad phone, I just pretend I'm running DarchDroid.
With a keyboard.
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What did you do to it?

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What did you do to it?
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I didn't do anything. It just decided to shut off and not turn back on. Tried many batteries etc. It just went bye bye.

gunnyman said:
I didn't do anything. It just decided to shut off and not turn back on. Tried many batteries etc. It just went bye bye.
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Dang man... sorry to hear it

How sad Gunny, we'll miss ya bud!
Drop in and say hi sometimes! Maybe we'll see ya on the EVO posts.

gunnyman said:
I didn't do anything. It just decided to shut off and not turn back on. Tried many batteries etc. It just went bye bye.
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HAHAHAHAHA Likely story!!
You flashed a GSM rom didn't you??
just kidding, hope you like your moment until you move on to the next gen

I'll be around.

I would ***** and moan until june 4th and then say "evo please"

So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!
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I'll be around.
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Well we're gonna miss ya for sure! Hope you can deal with the Moment until you get our EVO (providing that is what you're going to next ) I know we'll see you around......
.....Now you should root the moment and port all our goodness to them You'll be a hero......haha.

The Moment was rooted before the official 2.1 was released. They have it easy. An earlier version of the Samsung software updater let you run unsigned tarballs. So you just use that to install a custom recovery and off you go.

btw, great reference for the title. was one of my favorite books WAAYYY before the movie, they did a HORRIBLE job with Zaphod

good luck you going to sdx?

I prefer to pretend that movie never happened.

Either of them.

Going to miss you gunnyman both here and Android central.. be well.
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See ya gunnyman.... I hope those who get an evo will see you in the portal. Me however, I'll be in this ghostland of a Hero forum.

I'll be here with you for a while, Meng. Dropping $500 on a phone, even one as nice as the evo, just aint happenin for ol' tejas.

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I'll be here with you for a while, Meng. Dropping $500 on a phone, even one as nice as the evo, just aint happenin for ol' tejas.
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I'll be here at least until October.... upgrade date.

Argh I miss my Hero already. The themes, the ports of different roms. Just don't happen over there in SDX Land. Someone is working on a Sens UI port though. On the upside. Live Wallpapers work perfectly and so does the 3d gallery at the same time.

gunnyman said:
Well my trusty hero which I only had for a a couple of months bit the big one yesterday. I went to the Sprint Store to get another one and all they had in stock for Android was a Moment.
So I guess I won't be around here as much.
This community despite some squabbles is incredible. I've enjoyed and appreciated my time here and the help I got.
The moment isn't a bad phone, I just pretend I'm running DarchDroid.
With a keyboard.
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So wait they just gave you a moment instead, no questions asked? Im gonna try this today as my hero has been acting up and if i get a replacement it would be my 4th phone already. Sprint told me they hardly ever give you a different model phone.

Does anyone else here feel... empty?

Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.

Darch is still here, Regaw is still here. Not sure who else is.

Toast and flipz have said hero dev will continue, just slow. I think jschi didn't jump ship either. And he is a genius
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and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well

tatonka_hero said:
and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well
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It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.

When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.

radxcoresteven said:
When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.
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No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.

Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.

Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.

familyguy26 said:
Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.
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It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone

cheer up
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It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.
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HeroMeng said:
No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.
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there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
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Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.
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^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan

usq said:
there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan
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I'm not that sad... lol. I am, however, sweltering, tired, and need to turn my AC on. Darchdroid is the best OC rom out there, and RegawMOD is the best NON-OC rom out there, so I think we are pretty good in the dev side of things.

HeroMeng said:
It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone
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That sucks. I forgot the Nexus was an HTC phone, but I was mostly referring to getting phones that don't have Sense. They usually are updated much faster.

I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.

notasimpleway said:
I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.
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The Hero is sort of the unwanted stepchild of XDA now. But, all the first-time Ebay adopters are coming to our "rescue".

I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.

Save up and buy an evo.
This is just how the phone loop rolls, once theres something better , you don't go back.
I will be keeping my hero, but yeah look at it this way , XDA devs are not the only ones dumping the phone , so is sprint.

HeroMeng said:
Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.

Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a f
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.
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It does have "full root" but the storage has nand locked/protected. It's like that little switch on and SD card or floppy to protect it only its software not hardware theyll break it in a week or two. You can pull apks in recovery... and WiFi tether needs a netfilter kernel so give em a week and it will work.
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Jus10o said:
I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.
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Well Regaw should be back at it soon and with you here it should all be ok anyways.

CyanogenMOD for the Vibrant

Looks like Cyanogen's giving up, folks.
He just tweeted that he 'doesn't know about it anymore.' That's not a good sign!

Damn, sad days
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Too bad sad day for us that have the vibrant its not looking good
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It sucks if he does, i was really looking for Cyanogen on my Vibrant. I have a G1 with CM6 on it and its Nice and Smooth. Hopefully he dont Give Up. =/

Too bad:-/
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hopefully they at least pick it back up once 2.2 gets released by tmobile/samsung....to bad to see them give up

From him saying he doesn't know, doesn't mean he's given up yet. It could mean he doesn't know how its going or he hasn't found a way to input it into his mods yet.

I don't have a vibrant, but an op and constantly in #samsung-epic on IRC and have been communicating with the devs trying to port CM over to our phone..
Bottom line is that it's just hard as hell to do. Samsung doesn't make it easy! Hopefully once the official Froyo comes out on our phones, we can grab the source... this will help tremendously.
Until then, I'm just trying to hold still my wandering eye that drifts onto other new 'developer-friendly' phones... like the G2 -- regardless of it having anti-hacking measures, it still seems to get a lot of attention.
Hang in there fellas...
reppin SGS for life.

I'm thinking he was speaking in terms of the vibrant making the 6.1 cut-off for RC1. Besides, or should I say supposedly, thedudesandroid, wesgarner, & koush were the ones working on this phone... Till they send out a tweet saying "your phone sucks donkey balls"... Ill have hope, very very little hope, but none the less.

Cyanogen himself isn't porting to the Vibrant, so it's not really too surprising that he doesn't know the status on it.
My guess is that it won't make 6.1, but the devs who are working on it seem to be making some progress.

"G2/Vibrant/Apps2ext is being worked on" in their irc channel. I don't know if it's out of date on their status, but it still looks positive

who exactly was responsible to port cm6 over to the vibrant? wes garner? according to twitter, he just got a new job to that explains why he hasn't had the time to work on the vibrant. it will get done eventually. i'm not too mad or impatient right now since the OTA is a month or two away.

ryan562 said:
who exactly was responsible to port cm6 over to the vibrant? wes garner? according to twitter, he just got a new job to that explains why he hasn't had the time to work on the vibrant. it will get done eventually. i'm not too mad or impatient right now since the OTA is a month or two away.
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Same here and I have never seen the cyanogen mod team give up on a phone.

from @noobnl_epic
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@cyanogen The Epic 4G port is going along nicely, boots: checked 3d and 2d: checked Radio: partiality checked BT & WIFI: partiality checked
I'm still holding out some hope. noobnl has been working with the Dude, so this is promising.

HTC Evo Shift Vs Samsung Epic 4G *ROOTED*

So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers

Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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Well seeing how the Epic community jumped on my question much faster, with more people ... Lol jk.
But any more suggestions people? Thanks in advance

Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone

westicle said:
Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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This. And I own an Epic (my wife has the shift). I'd never trade my Epic in for anything, at least at this point, but yeah the Epic forum is full of complainers, trolls, and guys with tiny wangs (or so I assume with how they have to constantly act like king s**t in the forums all of the time). And shift has a ton more devs, plus working cm7. But the phone itself is sweet, and faster (in my opinion, with the right rom), and has an independent number row. And the screen is bigger and looks nicer. I could go on and on about differences, but I've gotta run for now.
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From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.

HTCotta said:
From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.
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I certainly had this issue on stock rom on the Epic. I couldn't even make it through a work shift without the battery dying. But custom roms on the Epic blow that out of the water. I now can go a whole day of moderate usage and still have around 30-40%. But I don't know, I'm guessing with a custom rom the Shift still kicks the Epic's ass battery-wise. My wife is running CM7 (which the Epic may not see for a looong time), and I don't ever see her reaching for a charger or complaining of the battery. And being of the female variety, she tends to use a lot of the live wallpapers, widgets, etc...

fifedogg said:
Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone
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The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$

curiousGeorge said:
The Shift is again unrootable
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How can it be unrootable "again"? If it was unrootable the first time, then how did we get it?
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...all new ones will remain unrootable forever.
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Yes, you are absolutely right. The updated ROM from Sprint will never be rooted.
NEVER. EVER.
Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?

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Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?
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I've seen where a few people have tried the one zip ruu but the updated bootloader didn't recognize it.
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X99 was wondering that my self,gonna try it later tonite when the wife gets home.She uodated hers,I downloaded an ruu yesterday the .exe. I will report in the am
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Epic. 10char
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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You need to take a breather my friend. The stock 2.3 will get rooted in time, just like the 2.2 did. "Unrootable forever" is just an ignorant statement. If all you're gonna do is rant and rave a bunch of misinformation, please keep the post to yourself.

Back on topic...
I have a shift and purchased the Epic for my wife.
The Epic display is nicer, and the epic actually feels lighter (and is?) Than my shift. It also has more keys on the keyboard.
However, on stock ROMs my shift seems faster and has better battery life. UI's are a very personal preference, but I much prefer the HTC sense and overall software stack vs Samsung's touchwiz. It just seems to work better.
I've beeen running custom ROMs on my shift and most of them work well. About ready to try a custom ROM on the Epic to see if it works better...
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.

after the samsung moment debacle i will never own another samsung phone. to me the epic is a moment on steroids. its still a POS lol. glad i switched to the shift

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Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.
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+1
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ive been very happy with both my shift and the dev community here (who have turned me from an ignorant n00b-lout into a root-user) and all those who have helped me try and solve my problems.
As for rooting gingersense, it will happen soon enough, just give the devs here some time.

My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.

Stuke00 said:
My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.
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Rooting in and of itself isn't going to make a damn bit of difference in battery life. It's what you do with the root that counts... lol, sounds like a phallic joke gone bad...
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Coming from the Moment....

What's up guys...Just thought I'd drop a line and let you know I'm excited to finally have an Evo. Unfortunately it's the 2.3.3 that I bought from a buddy on the cheap in mint condition so I didn't have to use an upgrade.
Had rooted and flashed the hell out of moment nonstop so I'm anxious to see the exploit soon for 4.24. I've been on the XDA community for a while now just reading as SDX would love to port over themes that you guys had over here.
Anyways, thanks for the knowledge I've already seen from the users in this community just by reading through so many threads you guys have put up.

Welcome. Former Moment owner here as well, also stuck with 2.3.3.

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Welcome. Former Moment owner here as well, also stuck with 2.3.3.
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Sucks doesn't it? Man, I will say this, the devs for the Moment were awesome and they made the Moment 10x what it should it have been. That being said though, even a stock GB Evo kicks the **** out of it that's for sure.
But I loved my Moment strictly because of the guys at SDX and can't wait for the devs here to kick the door open on 4.24 so we can start playing again.

I agree. I enjoyed the Moment a lot but traded it toward this one when I was vacationing in Florida last month and could not get a gps lock to save my life. The last ROM I ran was Keylime. I see they ported a new 2.2 update for the Transform.

I had the worst luck with the moment. I went through three cuz theyre aweful phones with tons of glitches. Then they said they discontinued the moment so i got the intercept. Just as bad. Now im here with my wonderful evo
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Fellow Moment owner/Dev here, too! Matter of fact, my old Moment just got sold by the guy I sold it to the other day, so it's still kicking. Most under appreciated phone ever.
It sucks you guys just coming onboard with the Evo are handcuffed with out root yet, but patience will prevail! And once you get it unlocked, be ready for a whole new world, compared to the Moment. Fortunately, a stock Evo is a hell of a lot better looking than a stock Moment!

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Most under appreciated phone ever.
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Seriously? I think it's one of the worst I've owned. I'd rather have my TouchPro2. In fact, for a while I had both and often left the moment at home.

This thread brings a tear to my eyes. You mean, OP, that you actually took the time to read some of the information in our forums?
Hopefully we get more users like you in time. Welcome!

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Seriously? I think it's one of the worst I've owned. I'd rather have my TouchPro2. In fact, for a while I had both and often left the moment at home.
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The Moment was hit or miss, but by under appreciated, think of any other phone that's been off the market for a year, and people are still actively dev'ing on it. I never had probs with mine. It was always good.

HipKat said:
The Moment was hit or miss, but by under appreciated, think of any other phone that's been off the market for a year, and people are still actively dev'ing on it. I never had probs with mine. It was always good.
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I have to agree. I love my Moment, it was just getting a little long in tooth. My son is currently using with DC13s ROM. The Evo is an upgrade though.
And OP, welcome to the Evo world. Be careful though. The otaku here are worse than the Apple fanboys.

Hell, I was one of the fortunate ones that had a Moment that didn't give me any issues. The only real issue I ran into was moving to 2.2 EB and losing my GPS capabilities. GPS always worked perfect when on 2.1 but that jump to 2.2 always killed my GPS period.
HipKat, I remember seeing you all over the SDX boards and there are thousands of your posts that helped me with my Moment, so many thanks for that.
GitHub, I remember seeing you on SDX as well and yes, I like to lurk and read before I post anything on boards. That being said, I knew the unfortunate circumstance of jumping to a 4.24 EVO even before I bought it, but as stated earlier, even a stock EVO is better than the maxed out Moment. But you DEVs over there at SDX made that phone astounding compared to what it was stock.
I'm just sitting like everyone else waiting for the geniuses to crack this 2.3.3 EVO....in due time.

TBH, I flashed back to my Stock/Rooted nandroid the other day, and it's not so bad, really. Of course, I was only there for a few mins to clear my GPS before flashing MIUI! lol
Glad I helped people out over there. Like here, I jumped in the pool headfirst!

Ditttto. Former moment here man name was Sgtstew76 over yonder at sdx. Man welcome over bro, GREAT PEEPS HERE IF you search before posting lmmfao.....
Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......

I am still over at SDX but use the handle DarkPhoenix. It was already taken here it seems, so I used my secondary handle.