[Q] Help! About memory space and app´s - Ideos S7 General

Hello everyone
First at all want thanks the valious information in this forum. For a newbie like me is superb.
Now I´m needing here some tips please.
I have a IDEOS S7 tablet rooted (with SuperOneClick), working in full with the SuperUser, I have root access through with Root Explorer.
I use Link2SD to change the apps from the internal memory to the internal SD card.
I have no partitions on internal SD (do not know how to do).
The question: When i install an application this one goes to the /data/app folder, but also some additional files of this application goes to the /data/data folder.
With Link2sd when I move an app to the SD internal card, only the file in data/app moves and the files/folders in the data/data remain´s there!
For example when I install an application with 11MB (adobe flash for example) and move it with the link2sd to the internal SD card never copies all the 11MB (only about 3MB are copied )..... I conclude that any app that I install, and moved to SDcard, I can never keep in the same internal memory free "measurement" of bytes!
Example, I have 136MB free before installing Adobe. After installation I get 125MB. I move the app to the internal SD and are moved only 3MB! The remaining (8MB) stay in the internal memory. So, i never stay again with the 136MB that I had before, but +- 128MB.
What is wrong? Can I move all files of an application or not? What am I doing wrong or is this just like that!!? Any suggestion please?
By the way how can I create a partition on the InternalSD card and what is the advantage of doing this?
Thank you for your attention
regards
pedro

Can close/delete this topic please, solved and done.
Thanks
pedro

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[Q] Galaxy 3 Apps2SD. Data still being saved on the internal memory..

Hey everyone.
I installed a leaked version of Froyo on my Galaxy 3 I5800. I'm using the hack to always install the apps on the memory card. However, only the main apks of the apps are being stored on the memory card. Any application data is still being stored on the internal memory. For example, installing Angry Birds takes 10 MB on the memory card, but also takes about 2 MB on the internal phone memory..
Apps2SD is a huge improvement, but still, if the data's being stored on the internal memory, I'm gonna run out of space some time or the other.
Is there a hack or something to make the phone keep even the data on the memory card? I've heard about Apps2Ext but not sure if that can be installed on my phone and whether it stores the app data on the EXT partition too.
Any ideas?
Android documentation says that even when app. is installed on SD card,
"The .apk file is saved on the external storage, but all private user data, databases, optimized .dex files, and extracted native code are saved on the internal device memory."
TekkenLaw said:
Android documentation says that even when app. is installed on SD card,
"The .apk file is saved on the external storage, but all private user data, databases, optimized .dex files, and extracted native code are saved on the internal device memory."
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May be that's better because program can run faster.. anyway you can solve it by creating of ext2 partition on your SD card and virtualy enlarge internal storage.
But I haven't found any manual how to do it on i5800.
Are there ext2 capabilities in the i5800's Froyo? I'm asking because 2.1 lacks them, much to my dismay. A Linuxish device with a closed file system (rfs) with no tools available (and FAT), erm...
addicted2088 said:
Hey everyone.
I installed a leaked version of Froyo on my Galaxy 3 I5800. I'm using the hack to always install the apps on the memory card. However, only the main apks of the apps are being stored on the memory card. Any application data is still being stored on the internal memory. For example, installing Angry Birds takes 10 MB on the memory card, but also takes about 2 MB on the internal phone memory..
Apps2SD is a huge improvement, but still, if the data's being stored on the internal memory, I'm gonna run out of space some time or the other.
Is there a hack or something to make the phone keep even the data on the memory card? I've heard about Apps2Ext but not sure if that can be installed on my phone and whether it stores the app data on the EXT partition too.
Any ideas?
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install move to SD first then choose the option Exteral SD.Anything you install from now on will be installed to the SDCARD but aware the widgets and programs that require root doesn't work well in the SDCARD together with home replacement program.Unless of course the app itself support installing to SD.
banahaw said:
install move to SD first then choose the option Exteral SD.Anything you install from now on will be installed to the SDCARD but aware the widgets and programs that require root doesn't work well in the SDCARD together with home replacement program.Unless of course the app itself support installing to SD.
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this is what he did. But not everything will be saved to SD. This is the what he says.
nastyba said:
this is what he did. But not everything will be saved to SD. This is the what he says.
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Yeah, the APK file, that is the main package, is installed on the SD card. However, all the data that the application actually saves are usually on the internal device memory.
I have enabled Move to SD and set the install path to external, but it will still save application data on the phone memory. That is how Android is designed to work
banahaw said:
install move to SD first then choose the option Exteral SD.Anything you install from now on will be installed to the SDCARD but aware the widgets and programs that require root doesn't work well in the SDCARD together with home replacement program.Unless of course the app itself support installing to SD.
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Oh yes, I'm aware of all this. But still wanted to mention the point that the internal memory will always get used..
addicted2088 said:
Oh yes, I'm aware of all this. But still wanted to mention the point that the internal memory will always get used..
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you can extend your internal storage with your SD card, but you need to create ext2 partition on your SD card first and then <i>and this is the problem</i> explain to your i5800 to use this partion on SD card.
I've red many articles about it on HTC / SE phones where this method work. They say that the ROM must be customized, which haven't been done yet with our phone. The problem is, that the good programmers have Desire / or SGS and they do not care about the i5800
nastyba said:
you can extend your internal storage with your SD card, but you need to create ext2 partition on your SD card first
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And this is where the problem starts: The i5800 cannot handle ext2, at least not with its stock roms. You're stuck with an exotic proprietary file system (rfs) for which no tools are available.
mizch said:
And this is where the problem starts: The i5800 cannot handle ext2, at least not with its stock roms. You're stuck with an exotic proprietary file system (rfs) for which no tools are available.
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may be one day there will be a custom rom which will allows it
nastyba said:
may be one day there will be a custom rom which will allows it
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mizch said:
And this is where the problem starts: The i5800 cannot handle ext2, at least not with its stock roms. You're stuck with an exotic proprietary file system (rfs) for which no tools are available.
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Is this problem allready solved?
Because my bro has problems with the little internal space.
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Is this problem allready solved?
Because my bro has problems with the little internal space.
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Yes. For that you need to first flash a fugumod kernel. Then you can use Kyrillos' apptosd script from here. You need to use apptosd script v3 if you want your /data/data to be transferred to your SD. But script v3 works good only with class 6 SD card or higher.
Oh yes. You need to convert your data partition to ext4 and create an ext4 partition in SD card also.
ok formating...
seems that i have here a class 4 sd card 8gb... damn it!
I am currently on Kyrillos 6.1. If i create an EXT4 partition in my SD card, via CWM recovery, how can i move the apps which are already installed in my phone memory to that partition? Like if i use Titanium backup, then would moving the apps would go to FAT partition or the newly created EXT4 partition?
mrn123 said:
I am currently on Kyrillos 6.1. If i create an EXT4 partition in my SD card, via CWM recovery, how can i move the apps which are already installed in my phone memory to that partition? Like if i use Titanium backup, then would moving the apps would go to FAT partition or the newly created EXT4 partition?
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First backup your apps using titanuim backup. It will get backed up in SD card. Then copy the backed up apps and the rest of the stuff in your SD card to your PC. Then goto recovery, advanced, partition SD card. Create the required partitions. All data in SD card will be erased. Then in recovery only, wipe data. Then reboot. After that all the apps which you install will goto the ext partition that you created.
Thanks Dhiren!!! I was just wondering whether there was any way to directly move the apps to the EXT4 partition which are already installed on phone memory..I shall try out as you said...

[Q] move data completely to sd-ext

hey all XDA's,
I'm on MDJs C7 Gingerbread, using A2SD+ set up correctly (ext4).
now my question. normally, e.g a Desire HD right off the store comes with a all the way clean SD card, and its android just uses it for DCIM folder (or any camera folder) and music of course.
on my sd card are some folders that are hidden for android (.XYfolder) and also some folders for several apps that are normal avaiable (not hidden).
as i'm using A2SD+ i'd like to have a completly clear SD card under windows, so i want all the files mentioned above move to sd-ext.
why are some folders still there? is it because some apps are "move to SD" via android OS? can i uninstall them, then reinstall and they'd be in sd-ext? or anything i can do to swtich them to the sd-ext
btw. my sd-ext got enough free space and i'm willingly to extends the space also if nessecary.
thanks in advance
sincerly dtwizzy
nobody disturbed by that folders? i want a clean windows partition

[Q] Apps disappear after boot! A2SD

Hello, im an owner of a EU Leo, and I just installed some roms that have sense included in them on NAND, so I need A2SD...
Everything was smooth an i moved all apps that can be moved to SD and rebooted for the first time.. Then BAM! You wait for a little and only 24 apps recover out of 60, all the other apps are GONE! can anyone please help me to avoid this?
This is the ROM I'm currently using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954369 (however, its not the first rom that made this happen)
Thank you!
P.S The apps arent completely gone, if you go to application you can see they are on sd but they have a long name small memory taken and an Micro SD card icon instead of their icon..
Why are you moving them??
That rom aswell as majority of others use a partition on your sd card and automatically move the apps or data there for you. You have absolutely no need to move them at all.
Just partition your sdcard with CWM, 1GB and then 0MB swap.
Hmmm, I move them to get more space shouldnt I? I partitioned it with 1GB ext3 primary and thats all I did, then i revcovered with titanium backup and installed App2SD from he market to give me a notification for every app installed on internal memory to move it to sd, and I move them! Plz correct my actions!
will any1 plz reply?
yoaddictable said:
Hmmm, I move them to get more space shouldnt I? I partitioned it with 1GB ext3 primary and thats all I did, then i revcovered with titanium backup and installed App2SD from he market to give me a notification for every app installed on internal memory to move it to sd, and I move them! Plz correct my actions!
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They should automatically be moving to sd-ext. They will likley be showing as internal as teh sd-ext will be reporting as internal memory. When you move them you are probably breaking them.
Start over, Install some apps then reboot device and check your internal or sd-ext storage space via Titanium and see what it says.

If I delete .android_secure I run with problems?

Hi, recently I try to change my Recovery and for some strange reason I lost "aparently" all my sdcard content because I can't mount from recovery and either from the phone using AndroZip, my question is: if I format the sdcard and lost .android_secure directory I'm able to access my phone without problems?
Cheers and thx in advance
yes you are fine. The .android_secure folder has to do with paid applications and it will be regenerated automatically.
If you move apps to sd, they go in there. You should move any apps that are on sd to internal memory before you delete it
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tvall said:
If you move apps to sd, they go in there. You should move any apps that are on sd to internal memory before you delete it
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I must remember that.
Thx all of yours

Mount2sd Don't work

Hello, i tryed to swap the internal memory with the external memory using mount2sd app but now the rom don't boot and it blocked i must reflashing my rom..
is there a way to swap the internal to external memory with another app like mount2sd or is there a way to move all internal storage in the sd card?
or it don't work with the samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition tablet?
thanks for the answers
angel9999l5 said:
Hello, i tryed to swap the internal memory with the external memory using mount2sd app but now the rom don't boot and it blocked i must reflashing my rom..
is there a way to swap the internal to external memory with another app like mount2sd or is there a way to move all internal storage in the sd card?
or it don't work with the samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition tablet?
thanks for the answers
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There's a app called (root) folder mount in market.Theres a free version or paid version.I use that to mount all my game data to my ext. Sd card.The free one let's you mount 3 folders, the paid let's you mount as many as you want.You can run it and go to app analyzer in it and it shows all the folders and how big they are.You click on what ones you want to move and it creates folders on ext.sd card and moves all the data.
It's very easy to use and you can swap out any folder you want.
There's a app called (root) folder mount in market.Theres a free version or paid version.I use that to mount all my game data to my ext. Sd card.The free one let's you mount 3 folders, the paid let's you mount as many as you want.You can run it and go to app analyzer in it and it shows all the folders and how big they are.You click on what ones you want to move and it creates folders on ext.sd card and moves all the data.
It's very easy to use and you can swap out any folder you want.
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Hello, thank for the answer, finaly i maked mount2sd to work i just needed to wait 10 minutes after reboot (its why i thinked it don't work itwas stuck at samsung logo)
But the problem is now the ext3 partition is hidden and don't appear in parameter/stockage but it work all data was moved in. Is there a way to make the ext3 partition visible in parameter/stockage? All partition is visible in titanium backup
Or i will try folder mount if it more simple, thank for the answer!
Have a nice day!

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