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YAY MY STORY WAS POSTED TO ANDROID GUYS!!!
UPDATED: So I had to rush home after class and give everyone that definate answer that they long. This was in my email as I finally got a STRAIGHT answer from Google to the question
"Will the people that did the manual update to Froyo still receive the OTA, and did it void the warrenty? Can I get a straight Answer?"
Hi,
The answer is yes and no, respectively. When 2.2 (Froyo) is sent via OTA, everybody will get it, including those who have already manually updated to Froyo. No, your warranty is not voided by manually updating to Froyo. But we do recommend waiting for the OTA if you're still on 2.1 / Eclair.
Cheers,
Ben
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Origonal Post:
I found some evidence that supports, all manual user will get the OTA, even if you updated manually.
Hi all,
Thanks for the responses!
Just wanted to give a heads up that the build floating around is not the official Froyo release. You will get an automatic notification when we OTA the build, no need to manually download it. You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat...but I'd highly recommend waiting for our official release
@Bhushan4181: You will get the OTA update as long as you are connected to the internet and can communicate with Google servers.
We are striving hard to OTA the build to you ASAP, thanks for your patience!
Gaurav.
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From what I am TOLD as long as your manual update came from GOOGLE than it is still a LEGIT and offical update, just not the final, therefor you HAVE NOT voided your warrenty, and will most likely get the OTA so don't panic
P.S Those who did the manual update(me included) I would not worry about trying to roll back to 2.1. They sent out a test build via ota to testers, and when the final build comes i'm sure EVERYONE will get the OTA as it will have a different signature and what-not. How else would they get the final build to the testers?
Beautiful. Only thing missing now is a release date :|
Good find, I think its a no brainer but confirmation is good for some folks that were worried.
yeah good to know....
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Good find, I think its a no brainer but confirmation is good for some folks that were worried.
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Ya even I was a little tweaked. Not saying we wouldn't be able to just flash it anyhow even if you are NON root. But there was alot of mixed answers not only here but all over the net, and some people were freaking out
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Beautiful. Only thing missing now is a release date :|
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It appears, according to the quote ' We are striving hard to OTA the build to you ASAP, thanks for your patience!' that the build is complete and it may only be the OTA to be sorted.
I hope so anyway
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Let's take a look at that again:
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Just wanted to point that out
There is no question that there must be a newer version of froyo thats coming out. I say that because every forum I visit on this site (and other sites) have people complaining that this and that doesn't work (anymore).
Paul22000 said:
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Let's take a look at that again:
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Just wanted to point that out
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I knew there would be at least one person that would point something out to try to kill the post cause they didn't find it first. Obviously it will be newer. The file that was MANUALLY downloaded was available to the media and what not, so what, they are never gonna get the final OTA. Its common sense. And like I siad even if by what slim chance you don't get the OTA, you will be able to push it manually.
Way to try to kill a post
BTW...
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Paul22000 said:
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Let's take a look at that again:
"You will still get the automatic notification if the official release is a newer version than the one you have, so don't sweat"
Just wanted to point that out
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lol nice one ...
I dont find any good reason to give/update the press or the "preview phones" some unfinished or still bugged version of 2.2
For what ? so that they review it (Froyo) and write down all the bad or not working things ... it makes no sense , at least for me ...
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lol nice one ...
I dont find any good reason to give/update the press or the "preview phones" some unfinished or still bugged version of 2.2
For what ? so that they review it (Froyo) and write down all the bad or not working things ... it makes no sense , at least for me ...
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BINGO..and what when they find the mistakes...NOT FIX IT...haha, that exactly what I was saying
what about those who installed the OTA manually and then installed the custom recovery image? will they still be able to get the new OTA?
pvillasuso said:
lol nice one ...
I dont find any good reason to give/update the press or the "preview phones" some unfinished or still bugged version of 2.2
For what ? so that they review it (Froyo) and write down all the bad or not working things ... it makes no sense , at least for me ...
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I don't claim to know what happened, but I'm damn sure there is more to all of this.
I cannot believe the degree to which Google has fumbled this Froyo release. They let us all think we might get it at I/O and look where we are now.....another week later...all anyone has gotten is a broken version.
I said it before and I'll say it again: Mickey Mouse time in Mountain View
nice find!
did anyone read this?
maybe we don't have the offical release... yet...
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=13a3e39bb5ce4e13&hl=en
Since I'm still semi new to Android, you miss out on OTA updates if you're rooted right? Does that also mean you miss out if your bootloader is unlocked?
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what about those who installed the OTA manually and then installed the custom recovery image? will they still be able to get the new OTA?
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I am not sure. I didn't think you could install custom recovery image without root
darkjedi said:
Since I'm still semi new to Android, you miss out on OTA updates if you're rooted right? Does that also mean you miss out if your bootloader is unlocked?
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That would prolly be answered if you do a search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5723511
Mod Edit: No need to flame the user.
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There is no question that there must be a newer version of froyo thats coming out. I say that because every forum I visit on this site (and other sites) have people complaining that this and that doesn't work (anymore).
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And how many of those things are 3rd party apps that still need to be updated for 2.2 compatibility?
Dude hes got a point. You posted something that had Nothing to do with the topic at hand. We all already knew the info you posted. Thats what the whole thread was about.
Can somebody suggest where I can get the official ROMs especially european ROM since I see lots of asian firmwares being upgraded to European firmwares in many threads in this forum.
Also I want to how I can change the firmware to these european FW without rooting. Somebody please suggest step by step directions please.
I am having a singtel fw and need to remove the singtel animation at startup and my ver number is JE9 as I see most of the people are using JF versions which seem to be more recent than what I have.
And after changing it I should still be able to upgrade to froyo officially when it releases.
thanks
Sany
sany said:
Can somebody suggest where I can get the official ROMs especially european ROM since I see lots of asian firmwares being upgraded to European firmwares in many threads in this forum.
Also I want to how I can change the firmware to these european FW without rooting. Somebody please suggest step by step directions please.
I am having a singtel fw and need to remove the singtel animation at startup and my ver number is JE9 as I see most of the people are using JF versions which seem to be more recent than what I have.
And after changing it I should still be able to upgrade to froyo officially when it releases.
thanks
Sany
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Sany,
Please use the search button before you post!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596 read FAQ where to find ROMS and firmware!
BackfireNL said:
Sany,
Please use the search button before you post!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596 read FAQ where to find ROMS and firmware!
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There are no OFFICIAL EU updates out yet so how is he supposed to get one?!
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There are no OFFICIAL EU updates out yet so how is he supposed to get one?!
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then what are these that are posted here, are they not official?
http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/
sany said:
then what are these that are posted here, are they not official?
http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/
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Not really.
This is written on the home page:
Welcome on our Samsung Mobile Fanpage.
We are currently one of the biggest fan sites of Samsung Mobile!
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Not really.
This is written on the home page:
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The site is not an official Samsung's sponsor site, but the ROMs are official. Though, from what I have learned, not all the official ROM can be found there.
The only official EU rom at this time is JF3 and they just posted that today. Official means released by samsung. No one has clarified who/what samsung-firmwares.com really is but those newer roms are definitely not official. This doesn't mean they aren't great especially since now we can flash back to the stock firmware if we need it for warranty purposes.
lenrek said:
The site is not an official Samsung's sponsor site, but the ROMs are official. Though, from what I have learned, not all the official ROM can be found there.
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They are not officially available to the public so there's nothing official about them. If I assume that they are the same files used when flashing the phones that are distributed around the world I guess they could be called "shipping" ROMs, but that doesn't make them more official than the updates.
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They are not officially available to the public so there's nothing official about them. If I assume that they are the same files used when flashing the phones that are distributed around the world I guess they could be called "shipping" ROMs, but that doesn't make them more official than the updates.
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It is "official" enough for me. When used the ROM found at their site, I manage to restore SGS to default and initial state. It even comes with all the customisations that are specially designed for the local operator I subscribed to. I don't really want to know nor do I care how the owner of the site manage to access these ROM files.
They just posted this on twitter:
Our firmwares are official but samsung drops only some online in kies.
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we don't know when samsungvplans new fw on kies.
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Looks like they read the forum
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They just posted this on twitter:
Looks like they read the forum
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Well that's great. Maybe we can do some requests. Please upload Android 2.2 . Thank you
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Well that's great. Maybe we can do some requests. Please upload Android 2.2 . Thank you
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+ 100 for that lol
appelflap said:
Well that's great. Maybe we can do some requests. Please upload Android 2.2 . Thank you
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We need wait from Samsung though...
At least this clear out some misinformation regarding the ROM files at their site.
I am getting more confused now:
What are 'stock ROMs' then and what are those that are called 'official ROMs' if samsung has not released them or posted them and where are these sourced from.
My fw is JE9 asian, although I can see that it looks old when I see JF4 already being talked about, dont know how this supercedes my JE9 when samsung has not released an update? And I dont want to risk flashing those different so called official ROMs if samsung tomorrow devices some way of tracking that these are ROM that did not ship with the device and not allow me to upgrade to froyo - so i think i will rather wait.
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Is this the version that is supposed to be new?
I am downloading it now.
Do we have a list of changes? Is this the KIES that will give us FROYO ?
Whoever has answers, feel free.
Just wondering here, which part of the world are you in? I dont see the new kies yet. Canada.
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Hey, it is available in the UK as of NOV 3
Not avaiable on the polish samsung site yet.
Got the new Kies in the UK but no Froyo upgrade on the Three network yet
nesx87 said:
Hey, it is available in the UK as of NOV 3
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Can confirm, just updated. Hope this is a good sign
doop said:
Can confirm, just updated. Hope this is a good sign
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Every time Samsung release a new version of Kies people start dreaming about the release of froyo…. If that were the case we would be running Android 5.7 already
Spoke with 3 mobile uk yesterday.Impression i got was Froyo will not be released any time soon because its buggy.
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Every time Samsung release a new version of Kies people start dreaming about the release of froyo…. If that were the case we would be running Android 5.7 already
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Yeah, i agree, LOL...
Probably preparing for froyo update
can you give a link on new kies. now i'm download but see that old kies.
This might be REALLY bad news.
The reg hack no longer works ! If you change it and then try update it retrieves the info again from the phone and so resets it to whatever is on the phone
This means anyone who updated to the latest 2.2 Kies release are stuck with whatever product code they have now if they only want to use KIES
they seem to have more time working on stupid kies instead of the long awaited froyo... Freaks
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mjonase said:
they seem to have more time working on stupid kies instead of the long awaited froyo... Freaks
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Do you honestly think that only ONE team of develloppers are working at samsung?
Bad news? Power User still will be able to flash using odin, wich is apparantly better than kies at this, it will also prevent all users to "overtake" their servers while it's supposed to be in one particular country.
This is exactly what i thought
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I did specifically say for those using kies to update.
Tehpriest said:
This might be REALLY bad news.
The reg hack no longer works ! If you change it and then try update it retrieves the info again from the phone and so resets it to whatever is on the phone
This means anyone who updated to the latest 2.2 Kies release are stuck with whatever product code they have now if they only want to use KIES
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I wondered how long this would take.
nesx87 said:
Is this the version that is supposed to be new?
I am downloading it now.
Do we have a list of changes? Is this the KIES that will give us FROYO ?
Whoever has answers, feel free.
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Can u provide a valid link for those who wants to download also?!?
seby79 said:
Can u provide a valid link for those who wants to download also?!?
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Download is only via Kies at the moment.
seby79 said:
Can u provide a valid link for those who wants to download also?!?
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I believe it came as an Auto-Update, which checked the versions when u opened up Kies.
Is there any reason why vodafone and three have official 2.3.5 on kies but nothing for unbranded phones? Even the original SGS has it. I'm really beginning to regret getting this phone. Don't want to flash a Frankenstein package as would rather have a official release.
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Is there any reason why vodafone and three have official 2.3.5 on kies but nothing for unbranded phones? Even the original SGS has it. I'm really beginning to regret getting this phone. Don't want to flash a Frankenstein package as would rather have a official release.
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The most obvious question arises:
Why?
There's literally no reasonable or logical disadvantage to using one of the 'leaked' ROMs, since they are typically identical to the 'official release' ROMs in every way.
People seem to think that the official releases are magically enhanced somehow. In reality, the 'leaked' ROM simply becomes the 'official release' a few weeks later with no changes whatsoever made to it.
If the XEU ROM was leaked I would put it on my phone, except it hasn't been. As I said I dont want any Frankenstein ROMS. I just find it weird there isn't even a leak of the a XEU ROM yet Vodafone and Three have released theirs on Kies.
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If the XEU ROM was leaked I would put it on my phone, except it hasn't been. As I said I dont want any Frankenstein ROMS. I just find it weird there isn't even a leak of the a XEU ROM yet Vodafone and Three have released theirs on Kies.
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Again, same question. Why not just flash the leaked 2.3.5 and use the XEU CSC?
donalgodon said:
Again, same question. Why not just flash the leaked 2.3.5 and use the XEU CSC?
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You're missing the whole point, it is kind of odd that an official one hasn't dropped nor a leaked version either. I for one am waiting for the official too.
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Endoran said:
You're missing the whole point, it is kind of odd that an official one hasn't dropped nor a leaked version either. I for one am waiting for the official too.
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Thank you, the point was being missed, I'm sure I had made it clear I didn't want a Frankenstein ROM, maybe we will hear something soon.
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Yes I agree , the op is asking a question of why Kies has not released the rom for all phones. He is not asking about flashing. There are too many people that dont actually read.
My phone is unbranded and find this question interesting.
Waiting for official 2.3.5 on my xeu sgs2 as well. But im happy with the current 2.3.4 and not in a rush to get it
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I find it very strange as well that there isn't an official 2.3.5 firmware for unbranded XEU phones particularly when the vodafone and three customised firmwares would have been derived from a generic one.
I guess what makes it bearable is that 2.3.4 works perfectly for me and 2.3.5 doesn't add anything new apart from the blue overscroll glow which I'll rather not have.
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Yes I agree , the op is asking a question of why Kies has not released the rom for all phones. He is not asking about flashing. There are too many people that dont actually read.
My phone is unbranded and find this question interesting.
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It's not that I didn't read or understand the question, just that the question itself is very strange given that there's no logical reason to 'regret' getting the device when we have access to everything the OP wants already. There's no difference between 'official' ROMs or leaked ones other than the waiting time involved. In fact, the chances of the 'Official' Kies flash screwing up your phone are probably greater than they are with Odin.
The OP isn't only stating that it's odd that the 'Official' ROM hasn't been released via Kies, which I'd agree that it is a bit odd, but that he's beginning to regret purchasing the device because of this. I don't deny that reality, but I do think it's a trivial reason to regret such a fine device, particularly given the regularity with which leaked ROMs appear for the GSII compared to other devices. That's all I'm saying.
Some people like to use the official route I.E. Kies or at least use the ROM specific to their location. Sadly some others just cannot accept this. I have given up asking about officially released through Kies roms a long time ago because inevitably there will be a post immediately suggesting flashing. If I wanted that info I would ask for it.
You may wish to plug your phone in tonight.
I just did this to be told that the 2.3.5 update is ready and waiting for download (which I will do tomorrow when I have charged my phone)
My phone is an unbranded UK one
Can you tell us which version of update is available. I would have to flash back to stock, but don't want to if its not the official 2.3.5 KJ2 for XEU devices.
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It's not that I didn't read or understand the question, just that the question itself is very strange given that there's no logical reason to 'regret' getting the device when we have access to everything the OP wants already. There's no difference between 'official' ROMs or leaked ones other than the waiting time involved. In fact, the chances of the 'Official' Kies flash screwing up your phone are probably greater than they are with Odin.
The OP isn't only stating that it's odd that the 'Official' ROM hasn't been released via Kies, which I'd agree that it is a bit odd, but that he's beginning to regret purchasing the device because of this. I don't deny that reality, but I do think it's a trivial reason to regret such a fine device, particularly given the regularity with which leaked ROMs appear for the GSII compared to other devices. That's all I'm saying.
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The point to this is that it's unprecedented and curious that branded phones will have firmware updates so far ahead of unbranded ones, however I agree it's a strange reason to regret buying the phone considering there's very little between both fw versions.
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ronj1986 said:
Can you tell us which version of update is available. I would have to flash back to stock, but don't want to if its not the official 2.3.5 KJ2 for XEU devices.
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No updates on mine, still 2.3.4 KI4
@MARK said:
You may wish to plug your phone in tonight.
I just did this to be told that the 2.3.5 update is ready and waiting for download (which I will do tomorrow when I have charged my phone)
My phone is an unbranded UK one
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Where in UK are you? None on mine...
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Personally I prefer to have stock (rooted of course) I usually check out n try the leaked versions though n have to say that imho there are subtle differences.. Like the second or so you see the home screen before the lock screen.. Official wxki4 doesn't have this for me where as the leaked versions I tried before release did
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I too dont understand where 2.3.5 XEU is....
Ive seen quite a few 2.3.5 versions appear over past weeks, but no XEU.
I agree that it is very strange for some uk networks to release 2.3.5 via kies before we have a leaked version.
Maybe ICS is coming sooner than we thought, so no need for 2.3.5 ... Lol
XEU is usually one of the 1st leaks available, so it is strange.
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The Kies servers can only handle so much at a time. UK (o2) and UK (T-Mobile) haven't even had the 2.3.4 upgrade yet. I think these users would be a bit miffed if we UK (unbranded) owners got yet another upgrade via Kies (2.3.5) before they even got the older 2.3.4 we have enjoyed for several weeks now.
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You may wish to plug your phone in tonight.
I just did this to be told that the 2.3.5 update is ready and waiting for download (which I will do tomorrow when I have charged my phone)
My phone is an unbranded UK one
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Yep - I got 2.3.5 last night via Kies... I'm on the 3 network.
So is the 2.3.5 xeu on kies yet? I'm not at home at the moment so can't check
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Hi,
i was wondering if someone already has trie the new KK1 Build posted by Samfirmware?
If yes, please share your reports here!
Firmware: I9100BOKK1_I9100MAXKJ3_MAX Fast: http://www.hotfile.com/dl/135867305/0860293/I9100BOKK1_I9100MAXKJ3_MAX.zip.html
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/139681559497277440
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He just added a few more
Firmware: I9100BOKK1_I9100DTMKJ3_DTM
Firmware: I9100BOKK1_I9100COSKJ3_COS
Firmware: I9100BOKK1_I9100CROKJ4_CRO
Heh, these have all been available in the carrier firmware thread a few days ago. They are carrier branded firmwares.
haha noone beats you!
have you already tried them/heard of some reports?
punshkin said:
haha noone beats you!
have you already tried them/heard of some reports?
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I couldn't see ANY differences what so ever between KK1 and KJ3.
Battery life was VERY similar.
No heat issues.
No display issues.
All in all, it felt very much the same.
Apart from the T-Mobile ****e of course
No haven't tried them myself but I check the download stats and they have been downloaded a lot so I assume people have flashed them. I can't recall anyone posting anything, good or bad, about them on here so that usually means there isn't much wrong with them.
I've never flashed a carrier firmware to my device anyway.
samfirmware is now pushing tons of new (branded) firmwares. some even KG... wtf unfortunately no xxkk until now
I checked on the server and there is a bunch of I9100G firmwares that have been released. These are not compatible with the normal I9100 devices.