For those of you that use the laptop dock after you do a reboot of your atrix and start up the laptop dock whats the amount of ram being used by the atrix and how much do you show free? Just trying to see if mine is normal. Seems like memory is disappearing on me and cant see why. I even force closed apps to the point where I had less apps running that when I powered the phone on and it still didn't seem to change much.
Seems like after using the laptop dock there are some processes that don't show up in the built in task manager or running services in settings that are holding on to ram.
I take the atrix off the dock and I am down to low 100mbs of ram when normal usage I am around mid to high 200mbs.
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Maybe try Autostarts to get some ram back on boot.
I'll look at that but the main issue isn't free ram when it boots but rather after I have used it for a while then connect and disconnect from the laptop dock. To me it seems like something from the laptop dock keeps some of the ram and no matter what apps I force close it doesn't clear it.
There is a command to terminate the webtop session you launched and free up the ram used by the session at:
/osh/etc/init.d/webtop-shutdown.sh
execute from root explorer or terminal, though reboot is still better than launching standalone init.d scripts. As is the android OS has first say when webtop isn't active and the ram used by the webtop kills their own process's when a is nearing cap such as firefox closing out when you tried to launch "everything you could think of" XP
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Hi,
I've noticed that over the course of a day, the memory consumption of the HD increases substantially... going up from about 30% to over 60% if I use it heavily. I imagine it has something to do with the different caches and the tweaks I've run (found on the forums) to increase performance. Is there a way to flush all caches so that I don't have to reset the device?
Thanks!
I'd like to know if anyone else is having this problem too.
After a fresh reboot my memory usage is about 30%. By the time Gyrator and TouchFlo restart it gets to about 40% where it stays.
However once I start using programs it will easily skyrocket to about 70%. Even if I close all the programs using taskmanager I will never recover more than about 2-3% of memory.
i use memmaid to free memory from time to time, but i we also backup a request for something that automaticly do that
shadow option for sktools made my hd to stuck so i rennounced to it
any ideeas?
now i don't know if this can affect battery performance but with computers the most efficient system is NOT the one with a lot of free ram, is the one that USES it totally... virtually having always ram at 99% would mean maximum performance... In other words: why do you want to flush the ram
This can not affect battery performance at all.
And it's totally normal to use ALL ram.
I guess you people grew up with normal Windows, that frees ram...
For example Linux has always used 99% RAM on your pc. It just uses all the free RAM as cache! So when there is more needed, it deletes some cache and allocates that RAM.
It is bad, very bad to waste memory by not using 100%. Using all memory for cache and only giving memory when it is needed is good for performance.
If you look at Vista, it does the same thing...
So it is normal behaviour, especially when you set all the caches high.
I use the SKTools application "FreeUP RAM" which does a sweep of RAM and normally saves about 5-10 mb.
BUT, I find I rarely need it as I don't seem to have any memory leak except with TomTom running.
i am not sure i can follow you
if i understand well, linux keem memory ocupied in order to fully use the whole capacity
but is not the case of windows, and sure is not the case of windows mobile
in my device, diferent processes and application take a slice of memory and does not release it even when you close them
so you end with a memory occupied 60, 70 even 80% despite the fact that you have nothing obviously running
because of that (not having enough free RAM), when you launch a new application, the HD became very slow or even stuck
correct me if i am wrong, but this is what i have noticed during the years of use of windows or windows mobile.
i am not computer literated so i might be wrong, though!
I also raise this problem here before, most expert's advise is that WM will manage memory itself, it is not necessary for us to do anything!!
I had tried to use memmaid, but it only free up 1-2M memory.
Back to the time when I use D810, if there are few MB left, I can't launch new application. Even when I close some and make free RAM left to 16+ MB, that program will still report out of memory........the only thing I can do is to soft reset.....
HD's RAM capacity is much better, but as time goes......maybe this problem will also happen!?!?
Sorry but not convinced. I agree that when in use 70-80% memory usage is not a problem. But when there are no programs running, then there is no reason to use ram.
Also on my previous wm6.1 device when you closed items in task manager it would restore ram. Sure not all of it but a good chunk of it. Heck, even on my previous HD using the task manager would free more ram.
The only thing that I can see that is different between my previous HD and this one is Tweak HD and the TouchFLO Calender. So I will try removing those first and see what happens,
Eventually, after flashing Laurentius's ROM, the problem went away almost completely. Have to say my memory usage is pretty stable now, at around 40-45% even after a day of full application and web use.
dunno personally i'd love to have a superfetch feature like in vista which keeps ram full
Higher memory usage causes minimal/neglectable effect on power consumption, RAM is powered as a whole, fractional/partial modes (where only used memory cells are powered) are not available on modern RAM chips. The CPU or DMA controller may use more power swapping memory data in and out as memory usage grows, however the increase is nothing in comparison with what the LCD backlight or loudspeaker would use.
I don't know what memory allocation method is used in Windows CE/Mobile, but regardless, being unable to start a new application while there are no other applications running in the background means that physical memory is depleted and this is not normal. OS may use RAM for caching/buffering to optimize performance, however memory allocated for optimizations should probably be released when it's required for other purposes. If this is not happening, than either OS lost track of allocated/unallocated memory or memory allocation approach is very inefficient and causes high fragmentation.
Here's a list of tools (for WinCE) that may also work on WinMo and help curious xda-devs figure out what's eating their memory...
http://blogs.msdn.com/ce_base/archive/2006/01/11/511883.aspx
I got my X10 monday, when I got it the first app that I installed is appkiller and system monitor. In the beginning, when I closed all the apps by appkiller, the system monitor said that I have 175mb of RAM. After using it for 3 days, I started to notice that my ram is going down and down... I mean it went down to 35mb. I did a factory reset and then I started installing very few apps and kept noticing my ram. No matter how many programs I keep on killing the ram seems to be going down and down.
Why is the ram going down? The phone was supose to have internal rom of 1Gb and ram of 348mb. I didn't play/install any games yet it kept on going down and down
Any ideas? Who is eating my rams?
This behavior is normal on Android. It just wants to load everything in the background. When there is not enough ram Android will kill some task by itself. It's meant to work that way:
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html#actlife
So don't worry about your ram, even if its only 30MB available, unless the device turns really slow.
When I got this device (coming from Windows Mobile) I was very focused on the ram like you. I've used an taskkiller to kill almost everything, used an startupauditor etc. etc. However I found that these apps do more harm than good. I run the X10 bone stock now, without any killers and it still runs like a charm. I'm getting 48 hours of life out of the battery with some normal use (a few hours of music a day, browings, timescape, gps). Just enjoy the phone and don't look so much at the ram
Agreed...
I went from the hellish pits of WoeMo, and took the same approach with task killers, startup auditors, and all that absolutely necessary stuff for WoeMo...
I now run without them, and everything works like a charm - I'm inclined to think it actually works better, but I haven't done all the math yet (only went back to stock a few days ago), but I would err towards it being better without them.
If anything, I'd recommend using a task switcher, such as AppSwipe, so you can close any programs you've left open, by returning to them and pressing the Back button to close them, rather than the Home button (as I often do) which leaves them open....
i have really no choice but to use a task killer
every time when my ram drop to like 40+ or 30+mb it lags like hell
then i spend about 15s get to my task killer and press "kill"
everything fines then
ok so this will happen quite often to me after messing with customizations or just using different apps. I exit apps that stay running correctly (at least ones I know I need to). my ram will fill up, or almost up and then the phone will freeze for a few seconds. when it comes back up I open system panel and close all inactive apps and anything else I feel needs to be closed. this will leave me with 50% or less free.
usually i'm not concerned, but twice now my phone has rebooted due to this. this happened once back in june and now just today. I had navigation up and when I knew where I was going I woke up the phone to exit it, but the phone was frozen. so I put it down and it actually keeps giving me directions. then I heard the start up tone, I didn't bother to look just put the phone in my pocket. a few minutes later it reboots again. again I didn't bother cause I did not need it. when I did need it I found it with no cell or 3g reception and no icons loaded up. reboot the phone manually and all is fine.
I am rooted with the latest fresh rom. but I have only been rooted for 6 days and I have been getting this memory issue the whole time I have owned the phone(release day purchase). including one reboot before rooting.
I keep reading that we should not have to worry about memory and that android takes care of it by closing apps when new apps need the memory. is this really true?
usually I keep it free by using system panel but I forget sometimes. I haven't used task killers as I read mix reviews and I like some things manual anyways.
so, is this normal? am I doing something wrong, or is there a setting I need? do I just need to go get a task killer?
what are the best task killers? and is there any programs I should not kill? or whats the optimal way to set these up?
thanx for any help you can give me
Try using Advanced Task Killer (there's a free version in the Market) and change its security settings to low, then start killing processes you don't need.
While Android is supposed to have good RAM management... Well, as you can see, it's not that great. Generally, if I get under 100MB of RAM available, I tend to go on a killing spree... Of processes.
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Generally, if I get under 100MB of RAM available, I tend to go on a killing spree... Of processes.
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me too... when I remember .. lol
cool I'll try out ATK
I started noticing the slow browser problems when I loaded leaked ics. I finally downloaded a program called Watchdog Lite. It keeps track of cpu usage and will beep if a program uses to much for to long. What I began to notice is that some programs just don't go to sleep when you exit them, and the browsers are culprits. Pulse is another program that can keep cpu busy long after I stopped using it. One program that is really bad at times is our own XDA android program. The other night an hour after I stopped using the program it was still using around 50 percent of cpu time. Go figure, there is nothing going on with this program that should take that much cpu at any time. Maybe search or something. I discovered this because watchdog kept beeping.
This is not just on the acer. I have the same problem with my asus prime. Maybe that's why asus provides a task manager with shut down widget. Watchdog will also let you shut down programs.
I don't know if this happens in HC because I did not start checking this until ICS came along.
I'm fairly aggressive at killing programs, particularly those I know that give me problems. If tablet seems to be slow check to see if something is grabbing the cpu that you are not aware of. Kill it if it's not being used. I wish all programs gave you an exit button. I use it when I can.
After I started killing browser instances, or other cpu hungry apps my browsing is much smoother and quicker.
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Hello guys,
i created this first thread on this forum because my Moto G4 Plus doesn't work like it should.
I have display burnings (and i think it's getting worse).
I don't have a rooted device and i can't use a trick which requires root because i've banking apps which requires an unrooted phone.
Additionally the phone is getting slower and slower. When i click something sometimes i have to wait 2-3 seconds until it shows the expected result.
Chrome is slow. Google photos is slow. I think every app is slow except of one or two.
I can't remember that it was like this at the beginning.
Does anyone can help me?
Thanks,
Daniel
If you're getting display burn in, you could try the S-filter app as mentioned in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g6/how-to/guide-how-to-fix-screen-burn-image-t3820594 credit to the MotoG sub Reddit page https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/91hjne/how_to_fix_image_persistence_on_all_motorola/
I'm currently testing out a similar app - iBlue from the Play Store and it seems to be limiting the display burn in (I have a LG LCD panel on my G4 Plus). I'm not rooted (and in fact have re-locked my device's bootloader).
As for the slowdowns, is this persisting across networks (i.e. do you see the same behaviour on Wi-Fi and on 3G/4G LTE)? Have you tried to wipe cache or consider wiping data and starting over with a clean device? How much free space is left on your device's internal storage?
I'm using Twilight at the evening for a blue filter. Is it a similar app and should i only use one app?
My free space is low. I think the smartphone is slower if the battery is empty. I didn't recognize any difference between wifi and 4g/3g.
I will try a cache clear.
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I'm using Twilight at the evening for a blue filter. Is it a similar app and should i only use one app?
My free space is low. I think the smartphone is slower if the battery is empty. I didn't recognize any difference between wifi and 4g/3g.
I will try a cache clear.
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If Twilight works for you, you may as well stay with it. I did notice slight lag when the filter was on, though the trade-off is worth it for less burn-in and easier on the eyes.
Hmm, you may wish to clear some space on your internal storage - if I recall, my device slowed down when I had less than 1-2 GB of free space internally. Also, if your battery is nearly empty, your device will slow down because of Battery Saver (if you have it on), since battery saving clocks down your CPU/disables the high powered cores so you've only got 4 low powered cores until you charge. It may also be that a low battery can't provide enough power to your CPU for full operation.
Ok, a cache clear helped a little bit. I will try to reset my phone and test it if it helps.
I also noticed the slowness when the battery is low... then it is very slow...
Something on this device wrong... Motorola misconfigured anything. This shouldn't happen.
Your device should slow down when your battery is low as I wrote above, especially if you have Battery Saver active on your device. Does your navigation bar turn orange at below 15 % battery?
Only at 5%
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Only at 5%
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Thus, at 5% your device CPU clocks down and shuts off the 1.5 GHz cores, leaving you on the 4 low power 1.2 GHz cores at a reduced clock speed. Under those conditions, your device will slow down until you plug your device in https://www.howtogeek.com/242472/how-to-use-and-configure-androids-battery-saver-mode/
Instead of doing a factory reset, I'd uninstall some unnecessary apps if possible, see if you can free up some more space - it doesn't have to be a full wipe (which will erase all your data).
I always uninstall apps which i don't use and i clean all cache data and junk data with the Android Go Files app.
Maybe i have to remove old pictures from my phone...
I cleared my storage now by deleting apps. I have 3gb free space now.