Hi, I have tested and experienced this on three different HD2's, and tried with every radio available in the Master Radio Thread. When talking to someone normally using the internal speaker, and we try to talk simultaneously, on my end the other person's voice completely disappears and I can only hear myself talking. Sort of like the old-style speakerphone effect, where only one person could be talking at a time.
I have tested this extensively with automated voice menu systems as well (like Pizza Pizza) and every time, as soon as I start speaking it immediately cuts off the sound on the other end (the incoming sound from their voice in my ear) either intermittently, so I can only hear brief little bits of what is being said, or altogether so that ten seconds or more go by without my hearing anything at all from the other side (as long as I keep speaking). As soon as I stop talking, I can hear them again, and as soon as I resume speaking, their incoming sound is cut off again.
I am using the Telstra version of the HD2 with the 850mHz band and have tested with a couple of different carriers (Rogers and Bell) with the same results each time. And as I said, I have tried three different units so I don't think it's a matter of defectiveness.
Does anyone know of a fix for this issue?
thats a really odd problem. i can't say i can help much. but i can suggest another keyword that might help you search better for other possible reports of similar issues. at the very least, this word describes your problem a bit more concisely. its called "half duplex".
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I have the german T-Mobile MDA-Pro with D1. (whytf can't I specifly that in my profile ?) I experience some strange thing with it. When I pick up the phone when someone calls me (by pressing the green phone button) it takes a while until the other side can hear me.
So whenever I answer a call (by pressing that green phone button) I will have to wait 5-8 seconds after the buttonpress until I say something or else the other side wont hear what I say and still thinks I havent answered the phone yet.
Yes! indead...I've got the same problem. is it a software bug?
I too have the same problem, and sometimes it hangs up the call even when I press the green button.
I've posted before and everyone has said 'Use the search'...I have and can't find anything relevent (don't think the search facility of this is very good).
Can someone PLEASE point us.
I really do miss the speed and efficiency of my XDA2s!
I have had some experience of this, it does delay mine was worse before I got rid of all th O2 tat, it is now liveable with, however it is cutting off when I press the answer button !!! OR IS IT after conducting tests using another mobile I found out that
1) the phone does not take very long before O2 divert the call to Voicemail
2) the phone starts ringing long before you know anything about it (its worse if the phone is asleep) it can be a good few seconds before it makes any indication noises
3) it carries on playing the ringtone after the call has been diverted which gives the impression that pressing the answer button is futile.
I have talked to the technical suppport of t-mobile germany and they told me they era aware of this issue and they will be releasing an update in Q12006 that will resolve this issue.
I have talked to the technical suppport of t-mobile germany and they told me they are aware of this issue and they will be releasing an update in Q12006 that will resolve this issue.
I too have this problem and for the moment while i await any future fixes from O2 or others, i am using the following short-term fix; Under phone settings I have changed the delay period before calls are forwarded to ansafone if unanswered (this works on O2 anywa). One problem with this is that callers may give up before they are diverted to ansafone if you set the delay too long
did this really resolve the issue I was talking about in my initial post ? (that when I pick up the phone by pressing the green button the caller can not hear me for the fist 10 seconds )
I have XDA Exec and kept getting confused why my GF always sounded confused and puzzled when I answered the phone, Id say "hello" and she would wait a while, then say "Hello? you there?"
I never realised it was MY phone that was cutting off my voice at the start of the call.
In regards to the delay ringing, and answering etc, I am giving all my friends instructions to bloody well keep ringing! I turn answerphone off normally as my phone is always on. If you want to speak to me, keep ringing till i answer, if I dont want to talk, ill reject the call.
Why ring twice and hang up? I could be doing anything that takes more than 2 seconds to get that damn phone out of my pocket, get it out the case, open it, see who is calling, press the button, damn, missed call.
Same problem here. I am seriously thinking about using this as just a PDA. I don't think it's practical to use a phone that only works some times. Somebody on HoFo said that the Universal isn't meant to be used as a phone, it can, but it isn't meant to be. I'm starting to agree.
I just like the idea of not having to carry around a phone AND a pda. I kind of hoped that's what the universal offers. But it kind of looks like it doesn't ...
Its a great phone when used as a hands free device, answers almost straight away, and has great volume unlike most hands free - my callers also comment that the line quality is excellent even if a few metres away from the phone.
I do always feel stupid though when using the phone as a standard phone, would feel more comfy putting a brick to my head.
I use the old phone ringer as my incomming call notifictaion and I hear my phone in plenty of time. The standard o2 incoming notification sound was useless. I don't know what T Mobile have but might be worth trying a different notification sound.
Cheers
I will have to wait 5-8 seconds after the buttonpress until I say something or else the other side wont hear what I say and still thinks I havent answered the phone yet
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Did anybody found a solution for this? this is very annoying.
Agreed, its just ridiculously slow - I worry whether or not I've hung up on people too, it takes a good few seconds before the line is actually dropped, let alone for the interface to update.
I've stopped using the "suspend" option and the phone seems to work like you'd expect (even on a cheap cell phone!). But the battery life is suffereing. Hopefully my new spare battery should be here soon.
I've stopped using the "suspend" option and the phone seems to work like you'd expect
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You mean I should walk around with some spare batteries in my pockets. :wink:
I think my pockets are too small for so many things.
Does anybody knows if this problem is known to HTC? Is there going to be an update?
It isn't possible that a phone doesn't act like a phone in these features that are already working 100 years. I want to pick up my phone and talk immediatly
By the way how do I switch off the "suspend" mode?
What is the "suspend" mode and how do I switch it off?
Look at Settings>Systems Tab>Power>Advanced Tab
Uncheck to "Turn off device if not used.."
This will stop the "suspend" mode
eeek ! Now I know why I would need an extra battery ....
Hello all:
If this has been covered or solved elsewhere, could you please refer me to said thread? Anyway, I have a problem where my girlfriend's 8525 emits its own GSM noise into the call. I.E. you'll be talking to her, then suddenly you here the GSM interfeerance. It varries from mild, to annoyingly loud. Sometimes, it cuts out, then resumes after a minute or so. That is not consistent however. That phone used to be mine, so I noticed it coming through the earpiece, however it was too soft to bother me.
One more thing. I noticed that windows system sounds appear to be piped through to the caller as well. I'm thinking, that if there's some registry tweek to disable that, perhaps it will also prevent the GSM noise from being piped through. Just a suggestion.
By the way, this phone is sim and sid unlocked and has the HTC rom, V3.54.255.3, and radio V1.54.07.00. Thanks, gladly appreciate any help or suggestions.
Ok... I just experienced something which was very strange and quite worrying.
I initiated a call in android... got 5 seconds of silence followed by what sounded like garbled voices. My signal is always weak in this location so I assumed I was connected and could hear my friend talking..... so I began with the usual "hello, HELLO, Can you hear me?"....
THEN I heard the phone ringing (MY CALL HADNT BEEN ANSWERED YET)
Before and during some of the ringing sound, I could hear what I am certain was a human voice albeit very garbled and incomprehensible.
Is it at all possible that I got a 'crossed line'? Is that even possible in this day and age?
As my signal is usually weak here so I do sometimes get garbled audio especially while calling out - but this sounded very different and I am 99% sure it was a human voice.
Has anyone ever experienced anything similar under android on the hd2? or even under winmo? Would hate to think someone could be listening in to my conversations
anyone?
edit: radio+ROM= as per sig... build= hyperdroid v1.1
That's funny I was just speaking on my g1 and I use to get that dime times on my g1 so I am guessing its android thing maybe with there radios....or it could be ghost trying to communicate with you from the other side ...maybe Google collecting some more data LOL but if I was ever in that situation again I would battery pull immediately....
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
It's a somewhat common occurance, mobiles picking up other mobile phone calls...hasnt happened to me but was actually watching a show that talked about it recently.
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maybe Google collecting some more data LOL
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lol......
Did you notice any black helicopters flying overhead during this time?
its how gsm works.. cdma each phone has its own identity.. with gsm before you connect to the call the connection to the tower is open, every phone is on the same channel.
you were probably hearing digital background noise. the actual voices you were hearing were probably your own being echoed back.
Hi!
The problem is described in detail at the Skype Android forum; basically, on Kitkat, Skype calls hang every couple of minutes (from 1 to 30). You are not able to hangup or play any other audio on the phone until the call timeouts and the program interrupts the call. While this is happening the phone works fine in every other way, you just have to wait to hear the hangup sound from Skype and you can call and be called again.
So far it looks like Skype bug, but the number of affected users seems pretty low - only three reports in one thread in Skype's Android forum. Considering the millions of Notes sold and the millions of Skype users on them, this seems to have rather low user impact and got me thinking that the cause might not be Skype itself, but something in the settings we (the three users which reported that) might have in common.
Any idea what can cause such behavior?
Hello XDA peeps,
I got a moto x pure 2015 that I bought from NY and I use it with Koodo mobile (Canadian provider) here in Montreal, Quebec. I find that I get quite a lot of false tones being triggered. It's very erratic and I can't find a pattern.
For example, some weeks I will never hear a tone beeping off into my hear. Other weeks, I will hear DTMF tones being tiggered by the voice on the other end. It could be my mom (VOIP) or my dad (mobile sim card) or even when I'm with customer service with a bank or credit card. I read that VOIP is notorious for false triggers because of the coding standards used. I noticed that female voices trigger it more often... in particular my mom.
I also noticed that I cannot hold my VOIP calls for long periods. I ruled out the 30 second VOIP issue as it can be 10 minutes, 5 minutes, or 2 hours before my VOIP call suddenly hangs up. I read that faulty DTMF may trigger the phone to end a call. This happens 99% of the time on different wifi connections (home, work, friends, public wifi, client premises, etc) and rarely, if ever, happens while on 3G/LTE.
1) Does anyone know if there is something that I can do to this phone to make mitigate any false triggers fore DTMF?
2) Can anyone confirm if using a Canadian mobile service on an American model would lead to this false DTMF?
3) any suggestions whatsoever? other than factory reset and changing phones. I did a factory reset already and the moto X pure is the phone I purchased to replace the Note 3 that also encountered dropped VOIP calls. I don't remember the Note 3 having any DTMF issues.
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Hello XDA peeps,
I got a moto x pure 2015 that I bought from NY and I use it with Koodo mobile (Canadian provider) here in Montreal, Quebec. I find that I get quite a lot of false tones being triggered. It's very erratic and I can't find a pattern.
For example, some weeks I will never hear a tone beeping off into my hear. Other weeks, I will hear DTMF tones being tiggered by the voice on the other end. It could be my mom (VOIP) or my dad (mobile sim card) or even when I'm with customer service with a bank or credit card. I read that VOIP is notorious for false triggers because of the coding standards used. I noticed that female voices trigger it more often... in particular my mom.
I also noticed that I cannot hold my VOIP calls for long periods. I ruled out the 30 second VOIP issue as it can be 10 minutes, 5 minutes, or 2 hours before my VOIP call suddenly hangs up. I read that faulty DTMF may trigger the phone to end a call. This happens 99% of the time on different wifi connections (home, work, friends, public wifi, client premises, etc) and rarely, if ever, happens while on 3G/LTE.
1) Does anyone know if there is something that I can do to this phone to make mitigate any false triggers fore DTMF?
2) Can anyone confirm if using a Canadian mobile service on an American model would lead to this false DTMF?
3) any suggestions whatsoever? other than factory reset and changing phones. I did a factory reset already and the moto X pure is the phone I purchased to replace the Note 3 that also encountered dropped VOIP calls. I don't remember the Note 3 having any DTMF issues.
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I am confused... Your device does not interpret or use DTMF in any way, and it only generated by the touchpad for "legacy" applications like auto attendants or phone banking systems. If DTMF is being detected on the far end, it is miss registering a minimum of 50ms of two specifically mixed frequencies (Dual Tone Multi-Frequency). The device only generated audible tones for your comfort/reassurance except when dialing digits manually. The phone itself should not be part of the issue here. Also, DTMF is not used as a disconnect signal in any way, audible analog tones for disconnect purposes have not been in common service for over 20 years. And the US and Canada use the exact same North American Tone plan, so in that regard a US or Canadian device is not relevant.
I know this isn't very helpful, but I think your searching for the wrong problem with this "DTMF" thing...
TBH, I have worked in telecom as an enterprise grade VoIP engineer for 25 years, including cellular carriers and hosted VoIP providers, and I have never heard of this issue you are describing.
Hi acejavelin,
Thanks for taking the time to respond. It is quite possible I'm mixing up terms, issues, symptoms, etc. The different issues I'm facing may be completely independent of each other.
The fact is i hear touch tones when no one is pressing on the dialer. not me and not the other caller. some times it's infrquent and sometimes it can be several times in one phone call.
I will research and provide you with references on regarding VOIP/DTMF/call hang ups. Perhaps this warrants breaking down this question into two separate questions.
Will get back to you soon.
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Hi acejavelin,
Thanks for taking the time to respond. It is quite possible I'm mixing up terms, issues, symptoms, etc. The different issues I'm facing may be completely independent of each other.
The fact is i hear touch tones when no one is pressing on the dialer. not me and not the other caller. some times it's infrquent and sometimes it can be several times in one phone call.
I will research and provide you with references on regarding VOIP/DTMF/call hang ups. Perhaps this warrants breaking down this question into two separate questions.
Will get back to you soon.
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Fair enough... but I answered this simply from a cellular carriers perspective regarding cellular service and your device. Not a VoIP carrier, that is entirely different and would depend on multiple things. A traditional cellular carrier and your device would not be the cause of DTMF tones, although if you are using a VoIP carrier or the person you are communicating with is, then that is whole different set of conditions.
Beyond that, standard troubleshooting would apply, eliminate potentials issues one at a time... try different SIM, carrier, destination, etc.... to narrow done to the commonality in every case and then change that piece to see if it eliminates the issue. Not sure what else to say without more information.
so far my testing is indicative that DTMF is the source of the hang ups. I used "in-band" DTMF and it seems that I only hear the tones now without hang ups.