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[Q] Are you going back to 2.1

Just taking an assessment here of the number of people going back to 2.1 and waiting out the OTA from Sprint.
I am not... I Repeat NOT looking to start a thread over whether or not it's worth it or a good idea. I am not looking to know what problems you are having or solutions you have found. There are a million threads to go over these issues.
Just taking a count here. Perhaps to help me in deciding whether or not its worth it to go through reinstalling all those apps and whatnot based on what the masses seem to be thinking.
OK if you guys want to use this as yet another repository for conversations on the pros and cons and problems you are having when you switch back please feel free...

I already have. For me, di18 runs circles around froyo. I don't think this is the final froyo. It's too goddamn slow and buggy. If it is, then this is the most sorry ass excuse for a final release from samsung/sprint. I'd give it the golden turd award.
P.S. I'm running stock rooted only.

Even if its "buggy" and/or a bit "laggy", froyo let's me do what I want on my phone..so I could bare with it as I have been for like 2 months aready
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No. I've been on the stock rom since I got an epic at the end of October, and this leak is by far the best rom I've used. I have absolutely no problems with this rom whatsoever. The one minor quirk is the screen lag when I open and close my keyboard, the home screen take a second to populate the icons and stuff. Other than that, I really don't have any major problems with this release at all.

DK28 feels like somehow I flashed Windows Mobile 6.5 on my phone. Launcher Pro is buggy and crashes at least several times per day. The phone freezes all the time and i have to mash the home key a hundred times to correct it, and then its vibrating for like 20 seconds registering the previous 100 hits of the home key. The browser is checkerboarding and WTF did my bookmarks go in the browser? Seriously, when you are in the browser, how do you access your bookmarks? They are no where to be found. Random apps are having anywhere from minor to major problems, most of which I fix manually through root explorer and correcting permissions. I did flash it correctly, so its not an issue with that. That said, its a PITA to flash back to DI18 and ive been putting it off. Gonna wait until I am mid throw chucking my phone against a wall, and then I will stop myself and flash back to DI18 that evening.

I guess I'm lucky with DK28. My phone has no ill effects.

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I guess I'm lucky with DK28. My phone has no ill effects.
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Same here. I'm keeping 2.2. It runs faster, smoother, and battery last longer. I have had no app conflicts. I'm came from unrooted stock epic, and just downloaded file from google the day it came out to my phone. Used my phone to change the name of the file, and used stock recovery to update. No probs what so ever.
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Anyone know if can use stock recovery to update to the final release from the leaked version? Thd update.zip method is so easy

muyoso said:
DK28 feels like somehow I flashed Windows Mobile 6.5 on my phone. Launcher Pro is buggy and crashes at least several times per day. The phone freezes all the time and i have to mash the home key a hundred times to correct it, and then its vibrating for like 20 seconds registering the previous 100 hits of the home key. The browser is checkerboarding and WTF did my bookmarks go in the browser? Seriously, when you are in the browser, how do you access your bookmarks? They are no where to be found. Random apps are having anywhere from minor to major problems, most of which I fix manually through root explorer and correcting permissions. I did flash it correctly, so its not an issue with that. That said, its a PITA to flash back to DI18 and ive been putting it off. Gonna wait until I am mid throw chucking my phone against a wall, and then I will stop myself and flash back to DI18 that evening.
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As a former Windows Mobile 6.5 user, I would like you to know that even WM6.5 on a TP2 is much more enjoyable to use than DK28.
That having been said, I went from DK28 back to Epic Experience.

Well a couple of things...
1) I think its funny that this has been viewed (at this point) 111 times, but only 17 people were willing to click yes no or considering it. I guess I should have included an option for those people who never flashed the update to begin with.
2) I updated on the day it was released as well. I had to do the flash back to get the GPS working again, but as of now the only real issue I have appears to be the accelerometer rotation lag.
@JSarella and @muyoso: I also was Stock ROM and rooted before the update and just used the update.zip method. However, I am not sure if that makes a difference with regard to the results of flashing to DK28.
@mxcoldhit: The battery life is amazing. I don't even have to use JuiceDefender, I can keep my screen at a normal brightness, have 2 email accounts pushing all day long, listen to an hour of music, make a couple of calls, play some games/do some light browsing, and still have battery to spare... just incredible to me the difference from 2.1 where I could hardly go a few hours of the day and do anything on the phone (without using JD).
I just felt like my phone was a bit snappier on eclair, and have been considering how much that snappiness is worth to me. I have backed up with CWM, so its not such a hassle, but I do love the battery life, flash support, and general feel of Froyo and know I would miss it as I wait at least 3 weeks for a final release. Also, who knows when an RC2 will be released and how much more careful Sprint will be as they actually caught wind of this one and all the excitement around it... I partially wonder if they did it as a teaser just to get a sense of how the community is feeling or to throw us off the scent of the gingerbread rumor... WHO KNOWS!!! Anywho, thanks to everyone who has responded, and I will keep checking in from time to time to see how it looks and what people are choosing to do based on their own personal experiences with DK28.

Already went back, didn't waste any time.

DK28 has been a great experience for me! Faster, smoother, more responsive than DI18 (or earlier) ever was! Dunno what some of you have done to your phones but DK28 has been running circles around the previous Eclair builds for the Epic 4G. My phone has only been on stock and never rooted. Also did a factory reset prior to DK28 so maybe that's why it has been such an utter joy for me.
Not going back and I'd be an idiot to do so!

I'm staying. I haven't had any problems and this thing runs so smooth now. This probably isn't final, but its close.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Only issue that i am having is that my gps is trashed and doesn't want to work. I haven't tried to fix it yet i may just wait and see if there will be another update soon. All in all i love it. I would suggest that once flashed do a wipe, that cleared out most of the bugs. Frustrating downloading apps again but worth it.
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Bigjim1488 said:
Only issue that i am having is that my gps is trashed and doesn't want to work. I haven't tried to fix it yet i may just wait and see if there will be another update soon. All in all i love it. I would suggest that once flashed do a wipe, that cleared out most of the bugs. Frustrating downloading apps again but worth it.
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Titanium backup is your friend
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After this morning I am going to have to go with likely to go back. Over time I am finding more and more bugs with DK28. This morning I was driving to work, I keep my phone linked to my car with bluetooth for slacker radio. Twice it loses it's connection and I was like what the hell.... so I look at my phone and it says 2 missed calls which should have gone through the bluetooth but instead just killed the data connection. Then 5 minutes later my whole notification bar goes green. Not a normal green, a look like a video card crashing green /w lines through it.
I just keep seeming to find random bugs here and there and it is getting a bit annoying. I may just wait it out until Samsung figures this whole froyo thing out.

muyoso said:
DK28 feels like somehow I flashed Windows Mobile 6.5 on my phone. Launcher Pro is buggy and crashes at least several times per day. The phone freezes all the time and i have to mash the home key a hundred times to correct it, and then its vibrating for like 20 seconds registering the previous 100 hits of the home key. The browser is checkerboarding and WTF did my bookmarks go in the browser? Seriously, when you are in the browser, how do you access your bookmarks? They are no where to be found. Random apps are having anywhere from minor to major problems, most of which I fix manually through root explorer and correcting permissions. I did flash it correctly, so its not an issue with that. That said, its a PITA to flash back to DI18 and ive been putting it off. Gonna wait until I am mid throw chucking my phone against a wall, and then I will stop myself and flash back to DI18 that evening.
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LOL! I guess I'm not the only one but I wouldn't go as far to say it is as bad as WinMo 6.5 even though certain things do remind me of my Touch Pro 2. I have realized that this isn't Froyo. It's FRUITCAKE!

I already went back - came from rooted stock, went back unrooted so OTA will work.
My battery SUCKED - I am used to getting a normal day's use with a lot left, I was having to plug in mid afternoon/dinner time. Just like before the 9/30 update and still doing all the tricks to keep battery down, ie airplane toggle, kill all Media, check Wifi status, etc. I HATE to plug in my phone for what I consider normal usage, not high tech, downloading, playing games. I almost returned it in Sept for this, will not go there again.
And GPS did NOT work, no has codes, nothing. I am going on vacation and really need GPS, so that was the final straw.
Liked - phone did seems snappier and faster. changing dock station icons
pics and some programs came up faster
Disliked - email was really slow messaging was different, screens bright was
ok but got popups (might be me and settings)
Didn't have calibration/rotation problems, didn't check camera, no dropped calls
Just lost too much and didn't gain enough to continue. I'm glad those above did well, it could depend on how you use it as well as how it was loaded, no idea, but battery for me was nightmare and unacceptable.

No, not going back unless I have to to get the next update. Battery life is significantly improved and everything is as snappy as it was before, and my gps is working even if it comes on while 4g is connected. No crashes yet and I have been running it since about 5 minutes after the link to the update.zip was posted.
And to access bookmarks in the browser you have to press the button next to the addres bar when a page is not loading. I hope they put it back into the bottom menu though.

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I haven't made up my mind yet. Many of the froyo roms seem to have minor issues here and there, but are otherwise usable.

First Impressions: [ROM][2.3.2] I9000XWJV1 (GINGERBREAD) for Galaxy S

The other thread has made me increasingly mental trying to find some decent information on what is working and what isn't working for SGS users upgrading to 2.3.2. I upgraded on Sunday evening without any issues and have been using it for the past 48hrs and have come across the following:
bad:
- no sip configuration options
- when integrated with MS exchange server, the unread count for emails never changes even after you read the mail
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
- no samsung apps available (probably because this isn't an official samsung release)
good:
- android market works fine for me in Switzerland
- GPS works well with all the different apps i have
- wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point
- FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
Overall I have been pleasantly surprised with this version. It's nice, although it's not an official release and is still leagues better than 2.1.x and 2.2. Would get a good argument from me about how it compares with 2.2.1..

gingerbread
its only a beta the official version will be better!

sdolgy said:
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?

sdolgy said:
... wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point...
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What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
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felleese said:
What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
Thanks
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Well, for me, I am not downloading torrents on my phone. When I want to download, via wifi, apps from the market or something with dropbox, the wifi isn't not letting me down. I think there's a disconnect between what the graphic is reporting and the actual level.
It's good because it still works and is functional and allows me to keep using this on a daily basis despite its status.

jnks123 said:
its only a beta the official version will be better!
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no doubt. not at all complaining. just wanted to document on my side what was working and not working so that i can compare in the future or maybe someone has a suggestion .. like the one about my default internet browser and plugins.
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Plugin setting is configured to "on demand"

Swype don't work.
GPS no satellites found.
Maybe we can compile a buglist?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

well its very early to give impression but its memory hungry battery hungry proned to black outs but to be honest when the bits all run nicely its good ive been running it over 24 hours now apart from mentioned problems its smooth looking forward to updates maybeys they will change ui and give us a few of the gingerbread goodies we all wanted ie tv of --3d apps screen and so on if you go settings then about and repeatadly press on version 2.3.2 i think about ten presses see gingerbreads easter egg at least they left us that lol enjoy egg hunting

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Thats a good idea.. Not only might it help Samsung, but it will discourage people from running it (and later whinging).

i got it running for a few hours and i generally enjoyed it, but the keyboard has no bulgarian (well it have in the options but it does not work) and if you run out of ram you are screwed (the phone hangs or gets tooo slow ).
as said samsung apps doesn`t work and the gallery freezes very often...
i hate that samsung removed the fancy animations and the black menu bar....

There's like no gingerbread keyboard and launcher
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1-3D performance
It's not as good as it was on 2.2.1. If you test some 3D games like NFS Shift, you culd see that it doesnt run so well as it did on 2.2.1
Some people even reports that they can’t even run lot of 3D games.
2-GPS
There are reports of a good gps performance, but I have read somewhere that it's contanstly throwing some kind of errors or bugs, I don't know how to check that. I guess they know it thanks to logcat or something like that.
According to what I could read on another forum they changed lot of gps files nad not is very similar to the ones of Nexus S, that's a good thing...
3-Keyboard
It’s also a shame that they didn’t include gingerboard keyboard…
PS: Some people might think that this thread isn’t useful, but as we are being kind of betatesters for Samsung it would be nice if we use this post only to report the most common bugs founds, so maybe Samsung could have a look at it and solve it faster.

sdolgy said:
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Try to use supercurio kernel with voodoo lagfix enabled and it should solve the problem. Works for me when I used to have same internet browser issue like you

Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos

hiraj_panosian said:
Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos
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Same here, it was so slow till i had to restart my i9000.

I've been using it for the last two days now (one of them with Supercurio's Voodoo Hack) and I've been happy with it in some parts, but quite unhappy in others.
Lag:
First of all, it seems the "Lag" that was fixed in 2.2.1 is back. Especially with memory-Hungry applications like the Browser, the phone tends to just freeze up for a few minutes without really doing much. I even had to pull the battery one time. This does happen less with the voodoo-fix, but it's still noticeable. Flash also does barely work.
Gingerbread features:
The new Gyroscope-Driver seems to work and it works really well. Skymap and Starchart both looked a LOT better when using them, no fidgeting around all the time anymore.
The new Gingerbread animations are NOT present in this rom. It seems like Samsung thinks they don't fit into TouchWiz, which is a shame. So no glowing edges when overscrolling and no screen-off or screen-on animation.
3D Performance pretty much seems to be the same as on 2.2.1 Games load a little slower, but I think that's mostly because we're using an un-optimized kernel.
The Bluetooth-Driver unfortunately still is the same as in Previous versions. So Neither Wiiremote nor PS3 will pair with the SGS, unlike on Cyanogenmod.
Samsung-Stuff:
As was stated before, Swype does not work. However, I am in the Swype beta and was able to install the Beta of Swype into this rom after deleting the normal swype with root explorer. It works fine, even Voice input does work.
All in all, it is clear that this is beta-firmware and it doesn't really offer much in terms of improvement over 2.2.1, at least not yet. Cyanogenmod 7, even tho it supports less hardware and is more unstable, runs a LOT faster and smoother than this, is more customizable and uses more of the new Gingerbread features.
For now, I'll be going back to 2.2.1, it's more useful as a daily driver, but this at least looks promising so far.

Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.

Well considering this is a beta it seems alot of the features that are suppose to be in the final build are here left out. That will give the reason for quite some things missing ( some animations, effects, lock screens, keyboards....) Plus also cause of the beta build maybe even alpha who knows, the performance for me is really bad, it feels twice as laggy compared to the 2.2.1 releases. All in all this build is an striped down, not optimized build for the samsung devs i guess. We will have to wait for a better build leak. Cheers !

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Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.
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Agreed, I switched back to JS5, but for the moment I'm keeping JVE modem. It performs WAY better for me. No random UMTS-disconnects.
But as others said, it's just a beta.

sdolgy said:
FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
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Is it stereo ?

[Q] Impressed with 3.1 update?

Now that 3.1 is finally out is everyone pretty satisfied with it? I know I am. Seems like a very smooth tablet experience now. Feel sorry for the guys who traded in there Iconia's and couldn't wait for the update.

It's pretty good, although my A500 was already pretty responsive with 3.0. Still, I do notice a slight improvement.
Sent from my A500 using XDA Premium App

Labby Road said:
It's pretty good, although my A500 was already pretty responsive with 3.0. Still, I do notice a slight improvement.
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One of the biggest improvements i noticed off the bat was youtube. Loads great now without stuttering.

I gotta say the mouse support is pretty spiffy. Overall it seems a lot smoother and snappier. I haven't tested it fully yet, but video support is definately better. It now seems to play all the videos that my Gtab plays. The one semi-disappointment is that while some widgets can be re-sized, I can't seem to make them smaller. They go bigger no problem, but smaller is a no-go on all the ones i've tried.

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Feel sorry for the guys who couldn't wait for the update.
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I'm kinda confused by this...
Why do you say that? If anything I feel sorry for you that it took you so long to experience 3.1.

rquinn19 said:
I'm kinda confused by this...
Why do you say that? If anything I feel sorry for you that it took you so long to experience 3.1.
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Im talking about the people who got rid of there Iconia and couldn't wait for an update to be released. I'm not hating on the Chinese version or the Asus version of 3.1

I love it know and my YouTube plays nice...
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anyone having problems with mouse support? my mouse at the office doesn't work but the one I have at home works perfectly!

don't notice any difference
To be honest I don't really notice a difference. After the first rebot I actually found the performance slower. Rebooted once more and it now runs much like it did before. I think I'm one of the fortunate ones who didn't experience any issues under 3.0.1.

No support for Xbox 360 controllers at this point, the ring just keeps blinking.
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It seems like it fixed cell stand by issue

Mine is rooted running Virtuous Asus w/Thor's latest. I have not seen, read, or experienced anything that has convinced me to jump on 3.1. I am very happy to keep my current rig and wait for a nice stable custom ROM.

I can now plug my digital camera into the A500 and with 1 click have all my pics download

it is a nice improvement from 3.0 . Then again this would be my first real update on any android software going back to the original mt3g days.
I have noticed that my wifi icon shows that I have horrible connection even when I'm next to the router. Snappier, nicer, better feel I am glad I forced my wife to buy this and the fact that xda talks all about this unit.
If it was not for y'all I would be lost.
*typed from Acer a500

Although my tablet does seem a bit smoother now, it refuses to play any of my videos i put on there (moboplayer, arcmediapro, act 1, rockplayer lite, none seem to work now?) gonna try moving the vids to "movies" folder and trying the stock player and see what happens.

Is it me or does it seem that the random shut downs are not happening anymore with 3.1?
Im monitoring for a while now, i havent had none yet.
It was the only thing i was bothered with a bit, but it would never occur to me, to trade the A500 for another tablet, im loving it since day one.

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Although my tablet does seem a bit smoother now, it refuses to play any of my videos i put on there (moboplayer, arcmediapro, act 1, rockplayer lite, none seem to work now?) gonna try moving the vids to "movies" folder and trying the stock player and see what happens.
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One thing I've noticed is video playback is a lot better. Rockplayer lite and moboplayer work fine on mine although mobo sometimes fcs. I'm sure rockplayer didn't let me play vids in hardware decoding mode before. It would always fail but now it works.

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Although my tablet does seem a bit smoother now, it refuses to play any of my videos i put on there (moboplayer, arcmediapro, act 1, rockplayer lite, none seem to work now?) gonna try moving the vids to "movies" folder and trying the stock player and see what happens.
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I had the same issue in Moboplayer and change the settings to be "Soft decoding by default" This seems to have fixed the issue.

Chaz36 said:
Is it me or does it seem that the random shut downs are not happening anymore with 3.1?
Im monitoring for a while now, i havent had none yet.
It was the only thing i was bothered with a bit, but it would never occur to me, to trade the A500 for another tablet, im loving it since day one.
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Since 3.1 I seem to get randomly booted out of the browser, but not a proper force close. I do lose all open tabs.
Also the onscreen keyboard now seems a lot more laggy

3.1 wass not bad. Better than 3.01, but still a little sluggish compared to virtuous galaxy. I am headed back to that rom.

lag

i dont know is that normal but my iconia a500 is very lagy whit only 2 pages opet like facebook or cnn...i have the latest 3.2 offical
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You are not he only one, mine also has lag, every Android tablet is ****ty. I also have 3.2 rooted with ad block and in Pulse Reader, it lags like hell, pages load without full content and the socalled "flash" is inexistent most of the time. Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. They should try an apple bitten logo tablet, I won't say the name, because haters will flame me.
Or they have overclocked like hell, but i don't like overclocking, it eats battery like a termite. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".

thanx i am hope that acer will fix that it is a big issue ,makes me nutz sometimes..

deio said:
You are not he only one, mine also has lag, every Android tablet is ****ty. I also have 3.2 rooted with ad block and in Pulse Reader, it lags like hell, pages load without full content and the socalled "flash" is inexistent most of the time. Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. They should try an apple bitten logo tablet, I won't say the name, because haters will flame me.
Or they have overclocked like hell, but i don't like overclocking, it eats battery like a termite. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".
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Dear deio,
I have a perfect perception of smoothness and I'm not going to lie to you - I have A500 with Lightspeed 1.0.4 with stock kernel. Runs SMOOTH AS BUTTER! My brother owns an iPAD 2 and trust me I've played a lot with this useless (for me) thing if that's the idea of "ultimate smoothness". OK, this thread is not about iPADs vs Android tablets (no matter your conclusion that every Android tablet is ****ty), its about the lag OP experienced with OTA 3.2 . huurux , either go ahead for a custom ROM or return your device for replacement.

Having the same problem since i downloaded ota 3.2. When i say lag, i meant like it takes me a couple of minutes to open up an app (not a specific app, almost any app causes the lag) and even that, when i try to execute anything with the app it takes a few more minutes. Android Market also tells me i have updates for my apps, click on update, and the download status bar will marquee endlessly and would not let me download anything. Was thinking i had a bad update.
My question is (and help me out cause i am a noob): Is there a way i can reflash the stock ota 3.2? I have tried the "check for update" but it will just tell me that my android is up-to-date. Please help, have tried looking in the forum but couldnt find a similar solution.
Another noobish question: If i factory reset i assume it will wipe all data. Is there an easy way i can reinstall all the apps i previously had before the factory reset? If so, will i be able to retain all the progress i made in the app? (eg: game progress, rss list, etc)Tks in advance =)

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Another noobish question: If i factory reset i assume it will wipe all data. Is there an easy way i can reinstall all the apps i previously had before the factory reset? If so, will i be able to retain all the progress i made in the app? (eg: game progress, rss list, etc)Tks in advance =)
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Get Titanium backup from Market - its the most usefull app for me that's why I got the paid version. It will backup all your apps with data. The free version would also do the job for you but the batch process of restoring apps later will require pressing OK on each app that is currently being restored.

Thanks for the fast reply. It seems that i am not able to download any apps from the moment because of the problem. Although internet seems to be working.

Try to download Titanium Backup from their web site. As for the lag, I'm on stock 3.2 and I don't have any lag, the tablet runs even faster than with 3.2, so something is causing the lag on your tablet, I suspect a bad application, it happened to me with my iPad and iTouch, that went slow as molasses, and it was bad application. Uninstalled and everything got fine.
So for those so quickly to blame any android tablet, pleas check first that really you didn't install any crap application, specially cracked or pirated ones, that is slowing the system.

deio said:
Scrolling is crap, tired of stuttering. Everybody that say that their tablet is "smooth", either lie, or have no perception of smoothness. And standby is crap also, only 2-3 days max, compared to 30 like "others".
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LOL Epic fail

drkalo said:
Dear deio,
I have a perfect perception of smoothness and I'm not going to lie to you - I have A500 with Lightspeed 1.0.4 with stock kernel. Runs SMOOTH AS BUTTER! My brother owns an iPAD 2 and trust me I've played a lot with this useless (for me) thing if that's the idea of "ultimate smoothness". OK, this thread is not about iPADs vs Android tablets (no matter your conclusion that every Android tablet is ****ty), its about the lag OP experienced with OTA 3.2 . huurux , either go ahead for a custom ROM or return your device for replacement.
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I also have this "LightSpeed" ROM, is laggy as hell, this is not a hardware problem, tried with a different Iconia, I also had a TF101, it was a bit better, but lack of USB on the slate made me chose the Iconia.
Sorry but this is about all Android tablets, and I must apologize to you, but I don't believe you. There is no smoothness in ANY Android device.
Ok, recommend a ROM that has the lowest lag, I'll try it.

I really don't get any slowdowns. I am however using tabooney with Richard trip kernel set tobuserspace in setcpu. Its been really good for me
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I'm running EZTerry's "stock" rooted 3.2 OTA ROM without any lag, choppiness, or basically any issues at all. My battery life is what it's always been since buying it in May.
Unfortunately for the OP, if you accepted the OTA you can no longer root so apps like Titanium Backup or flashing a different ROM are no longer an option. You'll have to wait for someone to get root for OTA 3.2.
If you don't mind losing some of your apps, you can try a factory reset, load one app at a time from the market, and see if you can determine if an app is causing your problems.
Deio, continuing to call the A500 community liars and idiots in thread after thread is likely not going to result in much help coming your way. At this point my only advice to you is to eBay your A500 and go buy an iPad. Clearly, the A500 is simply not the device for you and you're never going to be happy with it.

deio, buy a f***ing iPad and leave us alone!

Lag
I've noticed a significant lag when the power plug is on (especially the touchscreen), as soon as I unplug the power cordless everything run smooth... weird
android 3.1

My roommate has the Transformer and I have the Iconia, we both lag like hell every two to three hours for about 5-10mins.

gnygny said:
I've noticed a significant lag when the power plug is on (especially the touchscreen), as soon as I unplug the power cordless everything run smooth... weird
android 3.1
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I also have the power/charge lag problem. I'm on stock rooted 3.1 using Richard Tripp's kernel to OC 1.4. Lagging during charging/ac power has been a problem for my A500 since new, with no root. Something about this engineering that makes it a problem for some units.
Going to load Taboonay and see if it makes a difference.

Lag when in charge
jyams said:
I also have the power/charge lag problem. I'm on stock rooted 3.1 using Richard Tripp's kernel to OC 1.4. Lagging during charging/ac power has been a problem for my A500 since new, with no root. Something about this engineering that makes it a problem for some units.
Going to load Taboonay and see if it makes a difference.
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My config A500 3.1 rooted, I didn't have this issue be4 3.1 update.

Try thors newest v11. I only get lag on this website for some reason, it takes a quick second for the whole page to show. Its hit and miss. Every now and then it will go away. I watch alot of 720p videos. Both streaming from my home server or downloaded to one of my sdcards. All my daily uses, email, surfing, videos, etc. have almost no lag.

Ok here we go...
The best I can guess from reading about all of your lag problems is that there is a program or programs that are running in your background processes and eating up cpu/memory. Go to settings-applications-running applications and see what is on right now; subsequently see what is running directly after a reboot. If a bunch of random apps are running, it is very likely they are causing the lag. Especially if they are syncing or accessing the web. My suggestion would be to either uninstall these apps or go into their individual settings and turn off anything that would have it constantly working (not just running, it is ok for some apps to run in the background, as Android is programmed to control memory usage while allowing apps to run when not it use, but specifically 'working' in the background will eat up resources). Also, how often do you have your syncs scheduled? Any info that you do not need to have constantly synced (ie backup email addresses, facebook, weather intervals, etc.) should be either turned off or set to sync only a few times a day. For example, I have 11 running apps right now (been running without a reboot for a few days), consisting mainly of core Android processes, my keyboard, email, cpu scaler, and just 2 apps that I have downloaded that run in the background (mind you I have about 50 apps installed).
Furthermore...
All this talk about the iPad and how smooth it is...that's because it utilizes hardware accelerated graphics, something that Android will now have with the release of Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0. True, the level of smoothness on an iPad typically surpasses that of an Android device, but that is soon to change. Then what will the iPad really have? A boring home screen that consists of nothing more than only our app drawer and a ton of games. Android brings WAY more to the table, no question about it.
Going on...
I am running a custom rom (Taboonay 2.1b) with an overclocked/undervolted processor (1.4ghz -150mv) and my Iconia gets kick ass battery life. I need to really try to kill this thing, no joke. I play hi-def/3d games, watch flash content on the web, Netflix, internet browsing, email, create word docs, use external usb peripherals, and more. To get the best battery life you just have to be smart about it.
Suggestions:
Turn off auto backlight. I don't think it works very well on the Iconia anyway, I have my brightness set at about 20% and it's perfectly visible (if you're used to having it brighter give it some time, you'll adjust) and when I am in bright light I simply change it as needed.
Check sync schedule. Weather really only needs to be updated like every 3 hours at most. Do you really need to know the temperature AS it changes? Don't think so.
Do you have multiple email addresses? Unless they are work related, you can probably just set them to sync manually and check it a couple times a day without it turning on itself.
Facebook/Twitter syncing is the devil. Unless you are a 15 year old girl that needs to know what her bff is doing at all times, slow down the sync on these apps!
Is your WiFi set to turn off with your screen? This is a BIG ONE! Settings-Wireless/Networks-WiFi Settings-WiFi Disconnect Policy-When Screen Turns Off. You'll notice a change immediately.
For some more info on what's killing your battery, and therefore more than likely sucking up resources and causing lag, go to Settings-Applications-Battery Use. The blue lines should line up accordingly: Your device should only be Awake and have the WiFi on when the Screen is on, except for a few dashes here and there for normal syncing. Large blue squares of Awake when the screen isn't on means something is running in the background that probably shouldn't be. WiFi on all the time kills battery. Get it? Also, the list of apps that take up battery should only be ones that YOU KNOW you are using on a constant basis. If something is on there that you don't normally use a lot, it means it's running in the background and sucking up a lot of resources (other than screen, tablet idle, and Android OS, these should be there).
Moral of the story...
I gave my 3 year old kids my iPhone. It's a kids toy, same with the iPad. Period. An Android device is one of the most powerful, customizable and capable devices available. There is a lot more that can be done with it than with most other more simple devices. With great power comes great responsibility. Take control of your device, what you do with it and what it does. Lag? What lag.
Phew. I'm a little drunk at the moment, so hope I didn't go too crazy here. What was this post about by the way? Ha! Hit the thanks button if this made any sense to anyone out there

Honestly, I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm running stock unrooted 3.2(mostly because I've been too lazy to revert back to a rooted ROM)and have very little to no lag. Realizing that its all personal perception and that I gave my Ipod to my kid so I don't really have anything to compare it to, I'm way more than happy with the performance of my tablet. The only time I have to wait is when I open up the Acer content folders, sometimes it takes a second or two for them to open. I can definitely live with that, if the trade off is a fully usable tablet that I can customize to my own needs. Battery life is well above expectations as well for me. Usually two days of semi-heavy use before I start to get that panicky feeling that comes when my battery meter drops below 30%.

Asus Tablet (TF101) after 1 year of use

Hello!
I bought my tablet, a TF101 16GB wifi, a year ago, when it just came out.
I also bought a dock since my desire was to use it for work. I take notes, use internet with a wifi mini router for mail, and other office uses. I quite never use it for gaming, only some browsing at home when I do not want to switch on my mac.
I had stock kernel (before ICS), rooted stock kernel, ICS (rooted and not rooted) and now I am trying Jelly bean (not official).
I also tried different cooked roms.
During this year, I often had a lot of problems (kind of problem depends on rom installed):
- random reboots;
- encryption unsuccessful problems;
- various kinds of hangs
and I always had to do a factory reset (firmware reinstall in a lot of cases) and trying to recover my backups made with different tools.
In this way I can confirm that I never have been able to use it at work because of its weakness.
Now, I cannot understand if it is an Android O.S. problem, a specific problem of MY TF101, a problem of ASUS tablets or what.
Previously I had an IPAD (first model) and I never had such problems (but I cannot do so much with it)...
What have I to do?
Sell it and buy another one?
Sell it and leave tablets world?
Sell it and buy another brand of tablets?
Warranty is expired....
Thank you for your considerations....
Chris
PS sorry for my english....

Hi,
I had similar issues. I've read somewhere that this is caused mainly by two things. NVIDIA drivers and slow flash memory of the tf101 (slownes of the tf101). So, if you get a good price I would consider selling it. The NVIDIA driver problem is causing the reboots because the CPU can't be brought back from sleep or something like that. A workaround is to use this app:
(Wake Lock - PowerManager in google play)
and set it to the first option, PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK. This drains a bit the battery, however I've got rid of the most reboots. Give a try.
jokob

My opinion would be that its an issue of ASUS firmware. Most (would say all but i dont use encryption) if not all of your problems would be solved by custom firmware.
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chrispazz said:
Hello!
I bought my tablet, a TF101 16GB wifi, a year ago, when it just came out.
I also bought a dock since my desire was to use it for work. I take notes, use internet with a wifi mini router for mail, and other office uses. I quite never use it for gaming, only some browsing at home when I do not want to switch on my mac.
I had stock kernel (before ICS), rooted stock kernel, ICS (rooted and not rooted) and now I am trying Jelly bean (not official).
I also tried different cooked roms.
During this year, I often had a lot of problems (kind of problem depends on rom installed):
- random reboots;
- encryption unsuccessful problems;
- various kinds of hangs
and I always had to do a factory reset (firmware reinstall in a lot of cases) and trying to recover my backups made with different tools.
In this way I can confirm that I never have been able to use it at work because of its weakness.
Now, I cannot understand if it is an Android O.S. problem, a specific problem of MY TF101, a problem of ASUS tablets or what.
Previously I had an IPAD (first model) and I never had such problems (but I cannot do so much with it)...
What have I to do?
Sell it and buy another one?
Sell it and leave tablets world?
Sell it and buy another brand of tablets?
Warranty is expired....
Thank you for your considerations....
Chris
PS sorry for my english....
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I also have the TF 101 and have experienced many of the same problems, random lockups, FC's, etc. Since this was my first Tablet I attributed this all to the Android system. I had also intended to use this as a note taking tool for work but due to the instability I could not. I recently purchased the TF 700 as a replacement but ran into the same issues I also purchased the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 at the same time and used both Tablets side by side There really is no comparison the note is rock solid and super fast. The note taking functions are incredible.

My only real complaint is how little I've used the dock.. it cost me $150 and I basically use it as a battery or portable charger...
Yeah, I've experienced SOD and RR, but only since I've been using nightlies and non-stable roms. I've been considering changing tablets because my brother wants my tablet, but I think I'd rather buy him a new one because I don't think he can handle the flashing and ****..
For the record, it's been a little more than a year (I bought it around.. end of June, after a ****ty junior year, I decided to reward myself), but I still really like my tablet. Just not the dock.

That's to bad, only issues I experienced were rare lock ups and few random reboots. These were all primarily caused by the first release of ics.
I successfully used this tablet for school and my business. Not to heavy into gaming but did get slightly addicted to shadow gun for a time. My primary use for it lately is media and using QuickBooks mobile for proposals and invoicing while on the road.
I have had 3 tfs for the last year and all have had the same stability, all pre b70. I always flashed roms with nv flash.
I absolutely love this tablet, for the price, it's probably the best tablet around...or was for the last year.
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chrispazz said:
Hello!
- random reboots;
- encryption unsuccessful problems;
- various kinds of hangs
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Ok with troubles u got it's usually gone with wrong kernel or older version try update new kernel version.
I using this one nearly a year and I didnt have any trouble about them again. the beginning when I got it I have a lot trouble like you but when I update and try and try I find out those problems about kernel and ROM you using maybe doesnt fit.
Now I using Cyanogen 10 by RaymanXF, very cool now
sr about my Eng
Leon​

I had none of those problems on the latest stock ics i only get these on nightlys?

its funny, that the problems that u guys comment and increasingly Complain upon about RR and Crashes... they happen rarely to me.. its all about the right choice of kernels and roms... Combine and find out which suits u the best !

alizafar said:
its funny, that the problems that u guys comment and increasingly Complain upon about RR and Crashes... they happen rarely to me.. its all about the right choice of kernels and roms... Combine and find out which suits u the best !
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I couldn't agree more... now with JB is running smother than ever and didn't had any reboots, SOD's... nothing :good:

Ive never had any real issue with my TF101. Bought in the month they were released in the UK, got the keyboard through the cheap deal. Stock rom, never rooted and always upgraded OTA without wiping anything.
Mostly used it for reading RSS feeds, emails and a few websites. With the odd simple game, nothing too stressful for it though so I suspect it rarely runs flat out.
I got the keyboard because I thought Id use it, But I think I last plugged the tablet into it about three months ago.
Ive probably had 4 OS crashes that Ive noticed and probably about the same random application crashes (mostly browser) The only app that always crashes in Angry Birds space. Every time I play a certain level it crashes part way though so Im stuck on that level.
The only annoying thing I remember is that the wifi doesnt always connect to my Mifi. But it has no trouble with my home access point so I think thats the Mifi rather than the tablet.
I wouldnt say its perfect but its been almost pain free for me.

I recently bought Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and I was surprised how it has none of the issues the Transformer had. Don't get me wrong - the main problem with TF101 is slow NAND (causing lags when saving, updating etc.) and browsing experience. Apart from that it is quite brilliant. You have to remember that its the first generation of Android tablets - it had its problems and Asus is proving to have quite a few problems with quality control (TF201 was the worst example of this) and uses worse components to lower the price. Anyway - Note 10.1 is brilliant because it solved the problems I had - the browsing is very fast (like on my i7 laptop), no lags whatsoever and the stylus makes taking notes and drawing designs for new games much easier (I used to have a bunch of paper sheets all over my desk before with drawings, projects, TODOs and notes - now I use Lecture Notes for that).

I've had a love/hate relationship with my tf101...I love the keyboard...I can't remember the last time I removed it. Nothing beats a physical keyboard for me. The hate part has mostly been the browsers. It boggles the mind that it seems to be impossible to get a browser to just work...to do what a desktop browser can...every time, all the time.
Instead, to get the function of a desktop browser, I have 8 browsers installed. For the most part, my default is Opera...it works on most things and is relatively fast on most pages. Then, without warning, some page functions just won't work. Dialog boxes are a particular source of angst...as are videos.
Dialog boxes are an issue with most android browsers i've used...some work on some pages...some don't work on the same pages. Videos are completely hit and miss on Opera. I found the best, (and by that I mean the most reliable), browser for that has been the stock browser.
....until I stumbled upon a suggestion to try Boat browser. It has so far proven to be the most stable, reliable, consistent android browser and is my new goto browser. It's not perfect but it's as close to a real desktop browser I've found so far.
I know the video problems are with the browsers themselves since netflix runs flawlessly...in fact, almost everything does. I had some issues with occasional random reboots back in the first ics days but haven't been a problem in forever.
The random reboots on angry birds space isn't a real deal breaker...I can't think of any apps I use on a regular basis, (remember when we used to call them programs), that don't' work or fail on a regular basis.
It's the bloody browsers that have been my one consistent, overwhelming, holding myself back from frisbeeing this thing against a wall, frustration.
At some point, I'll try a new mod....it worked a treat keeping my Motorola Milestone alive and useful.
I even accidentally ran over this thing with my car and except for a slight warping of the body, not a thing broke....not even the screen..
I've considered moving on up to the infinity or some other tablet...if samsung makes a keyboard I'll really be tempted, but so far, this puppy has been a real trooper,..one of my least idiotic purchases.

After 8 months of no issues with my TF-101, I had to do a factory reset. My TF became unstable the last couple of weeks. It was constantly locking up. I thought it may be the kernel I was using (with stock .27), but no matter what kernel I flashed, the tablet was locking up every day even without overclocking. My guess it was one of the apps I installed recently. It wasn't too big a deal though. After wiping, I'm back to running guevor's kernel at 1.4GHz with no issues whatsoever.

I've bought my tf101 3 months ago and I'm happy. First month I had some problems related with suddenly app closing but it was solved with latest ics stock update (.27). Gmail was very unstable too but was solved with update as well. Despite of that i was very curious about root capabilities and custom roms. I still have a stable tablet, overclocked at 1.4. I have the keyboard dock too.
Btw hi, this is my first msg after being anonimous for 3 months xD
Maybe these problems you are reporting are related to hardware issues or firmware only present in older tablets?
Does stock updates touch something in the tablet that custom roms can't do?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2

I got mine second hand from a friend and ever since I've had it, it has run rock solid! Now that Cyanogen is releasing CM10 nightlies for the device that are only getting better with every release I hope to get plenty more life from it until I absolutely have to replace it!

I am almost sure that I have a NAND hardware problem.
I tried to install UBUNTU. All is ok but if I try to update to 12.04, I always get the same problem while installing.
Problem raise always when a specific amount of free space is used.
I also noticed sometimes (also with Andorid) to have some problems writing files....
How can I diagnose if I have some bad sectors on internal memory?
TY