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[Q] There is two different versions of Windows 8?

i have watched a few videos on youtube about windows 8, i have come across the, Windows phone 7 style, and then there is the windows 7 desktop style!
and i have a few questions about them.
how is the windows phone 7 style going to work on non touch computers? if i have to click on every tile that is going to be dumb.
and the windows 7 desktop style, i watched a couple videos and its about julinux?!?! what is this??? its based on ubuntu? did microsoft buy linux? or is it just a REEEALLY good fake??

They are the same, but windows 8 has a "Windows 7 mode".
The defoult "theme" is the windows phone 7 style

They arent "2 version"
but they are getting rid of start menu changing it for the start screen with tiles.
its the same, both are launchers, so you launch your apps, your documents and apps from there. just like old start menu
of course now, you got a full screen launcher, with nice tiles which tell you info.
now there will be metro style UI apps. but since there arent metro style UI apps nor store in developer preview, there isn't much point to use the new UI. more than as a launcher, thats when we use desktop.
what is desktop? its like an app, to run desktop UI software, like we did before. now it will be like an app, since it wont be the centric point of Windows anymore.
but Windows needs to run the normal desktop software and thats the only way, having old desktop there.
and everything Works nice with nontouch. i have been using developer preview for a week and it works cool.
and obviously you have to click on tiles, tiles = icons, but they can display information, which is useful when you use more metro style UI which means having real apps and not samples like DP.
i dont know how that is dumb, since its the same you did with old start menu.
but its like the same, a launcher but gives more. since you will get information like windows phone, it looks cool (if you change some dll info like i did), and its for touch AND mouse and keyboard. so it can be used the way you want or need.
its a big change, but it doesn't change the same of what you already have with start menu.
if people complained about start menu from xp to vista. obviously people will complain about new UI. but its all about getting used to it, it took me some hours. to make it work similar way to start menu. so yeah it works fine. but not everyone will like this change.

Emi_Cyberschreiber said:
They arent "2 version"
but they are getting rid of start menu .....QUOTE]
Indeed its the same version, something ive found really awkward is that the Metro interface works really well on a touch device, i find it quick and easy to use and when PROGRAMS (!!!!) start using the tiles it will only get better, however i just find it a bit awkward using the mouse, it just itsnt as fluid and almost feels clumsy.
its fine for just launching stuff but to flick back an forward doesnt feel right, Win 8 has its place secured in the tablet market but Metro on Win 8 is going to have a hard time on non-touch desktop computers, win 8 its self is great on a desktop id like to add, even in its current state.
i cant remember where i read it but some one sumed it up quite well with
whats Win 8? Its Win 7 on Speed! (a Drug)
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BF3 Working fine in Win8

In case anyone else is wondering.
Origin and Battlefield 3 are both working just fine in windows 8.

Is it more or less fps in w8?

I would say it's about the same. Maybe a little better, but I was on Vista. I get a good frame rate either way at 1920x1080

There should really be no reason that games and most other software should not work in windows 8 as it really is basically just windows 7 with a new start screen UI added over the top. The only thing that could cause errors is potentially drivers which might have to be optimised for windows 8. Windows 8 so far does a good job with legacy applications and the new start screen in terms of interference. Other the that good to know that it works

leftspeaker2000 said:
There should really be no reason that games and most other software should not work in windows 8 as it really is basically just windows 7 with a new start screen UI added over the top. The only thing that could cause errors is potentially drivers which might have to be optimised for windows 8. Windows 8 so far does a good job with legacy applications and the new start screen in terms of interference. Other the that good to know that it works
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it is wrong to say it like that,but i may know what you were trying to say,but the main part of the OS is the metro start menu. desktop is treated as an application to run desktop software,not the other way around. thats like saying the ps2 is just a ps1 with the ps2 added on.

leftspeaker2000 said:
There should really be no reason that games and most other software should not work in windows 8 as it really is basically just windows 7 with a new start screen UI added over the top. The only thing that could cause errors is potentially drivers which might have to be optimised for windows 8. Windows 8 so far does a good job with legacy applications and the new start screen in terms of interference. Other the that good to know that it works
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You would be surprised how different the two are. For instance have you tried to install and use MS Office 2010 on Win8? You would think it would work, it doesn't...

From what I have read 99% of things that work on windows 7 will work on windows 7 although some will require modification to play nice. Office 2010 works fine with windows 8 as I have tested it.
The analogy that ps2 is just a ps1 with a ps2 attached is actually correct. The ps2 did have a full functional ps1 housed within the console. Windows 8 is built on the windows 7 kernel with Win RT added in at least from what i know, so if windows 8 was using a different kernel and then emulating windows 7 like compatibility mode does for windows 7 with regards to windows xp then you would be correct. I could be wrong though.

For what i've experienced, win8 run every single program i've installed (and they are many). It's my main OS used daily since the release. If one ignore the "metro app" it looks like win7, but a way better in performance.
Anyway there's a thread regarding games compatibility/performance!

[Q] What is the need of a desktop in windows 8?If the whole thing is in Start menu?

I dont know y microsoft gave a desktop in widows 8 when you can do everything in the start menu?

they made it so the old user won't have problems fitting themselves to the new UI.
and it's made so pc user can use W8 correctly (no too damn big buttons)

They did it so Windows 8 can run older windows apps as well as metro apps.
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moutansos said:
They did it so Windows 8 can run older windows apps as well as metro apps.
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exactly, it was for backward compatibility with older versions of Windows. But truly the metro screen is just a new incarnation of the start menu.
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So does that mean windows 8 still has a regular desktop? also is it possible to install windows 8 on tablets, thats what it seems like its meant for

i could have sworn that I answered almost the exact same question the other day....
robotnikman said:
So does that mean windows 8 still has a regular desktop? also is it possible to install windows 8 on tablets, thats what it seems like its meant for
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Windows 8 does have desktop
Windows (8) RT does not, that is the ARM fork of windows, or at least that is what we believe to be the case
you can install Windows 8 on a tablet based on x86,
Tablets based on ARM can not be installed, or at least that is what MS intends, it might be possible but out of the box Windows RT isn't a retail product.

Assembly Language said:
I dont know y microsoft gave a desktop in widows 8 when you can do everything in the start menu?
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For the same reason why it has a desktop in Win7!?!
What a ridiculous question.

Hmm, as I've observed. Maybe that's one thing that makes Win8 boot more faster.

Yep, I think they did it because if the left it out, all the old windows Users would miss it and won't use W8, and since it is aviable, users that don't like the Metro theme, can use the old Desktop..
But I don't like it at all! Maybe on a TouchPad, or a Notebook with Touchscreen.. But for usual Desktops and Laptops the new metro theme in W8 is not a very good solution.
I don't like all that Touch-Stuff (You can see that in thr "new" Ubunu, too), since i'm using a regular Laptop & Desktop without any Touch screens.. They could implement for example something like scrolling by moving the cursor to the side of the screen, to make it more comfortable for users like me..
I think I'll stay on Win7.. Updating is too expensive anyway .

Without a desktop everything would need more time. Like to copy a text from the "internet explorer" to a word document.

Tzizzel said:
Without a desktop everything would need more time. Like to copy a text from the "internet explorer" to a word document.
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How so? Metro does have context menus. The multitasking needs a little work (Apps repeatedly restart on me when I switch to them) but it takes the same amount of time. If you think otherwise you're a tiny bit delusional. You have to focus the app anyway (even in desktop), right click and press paste, or if you use keyboard shortcuts, use them. Same amount of time really.
Also,.user two posts above, they DO scroll by moving the mouse top the side of the screen. ;-)
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Assembly Language said:
I dont know y microsoft gave a desktop in widows 8 when you can do everything in the start menu?
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because metro sucks if you have a gaming rig and non touch screen

ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
because metro sucks if you have a gaming rig and non touch screen
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Disagree, I play games with Windows 8 on my NetBook and they play fine, I also have attached a keyboard, mouse and monitor to it and it was still alright to use.
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Think about trying to be a programmer on metro. Its a big pain, desktop is never going to fade unless major editors and compilers find some way to make it more convient on metro, which i doubt since you have the constant need to quickly switch between programs and explorer windows
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Dri94 said:
Think about trying to be a programmer on metro. Its a big pain, desktop is never going to fade unless major editors and compilers find some way to make it more convient on metro, which i doubt since you have the constant need to quickly switch between programs and explorer windows
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I doubt it will be that hard. Would love to try writing code inside metro, compilers won't need metro equivalents though only editors (SciTe, VS, etc.) but either way, people are missing the point of metro which is not to replace the standard desktop, but replace the start menu and enhance the desktop.
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ShadowEO said:
I doubt it will be that hard. Would love to try writing code inside metro, compilers won't need metro equivalents though only editors (SciTe, VS, etc.) but either way, people are missing the point of metro which is not to replace the standard desktop, but replace the start menu and enhance the desktop.
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No, Microsoft is trying to replace the standard desktop.
The main reason for thinking this.. they are trying to do away with the file/object system that computers have been based on for just about forever. They are pushing towards a data-driven interface. The two don't mesh well, which is why windows 8 is a mess of different methodologies.
It really all has very little to do with touchscreens and such. Touch is just the current and most obvious way of interacting with data.

ShadowEO said:
I doubt it will be that hard. Would love to try writing code inside metro, compilers won't need metro equivalents though only editors (SciTe, VS, etc.) but either way, people are missing the point of metro which is not to replace the standard desktop, but replace the start menu and enhance the desktop.
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Switching between browser, text editor, eclipse (just as an example) and such take longer when using the metro way [moving mouse to topleft waiting for thing to pop up and then selecting], each time. thats all i mean

Dri94 said:
Switching between browser, text editor, eclipse (just as an example) and such take longer when using the metro way [moving mouse to topleft waiting for thing to pop up and then selecting], each time. thats all i mean
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Agree with that. Only the action of shutting down the computer is slower than in Windows 7. You have to wait the bar to pop up, then select settings, and then shut down instead of moving quickly the mouse to the bottom left corner, click on Start button and press Shut down.

I have always used multitasking keys to switch apps, so there is no difference in speed, but win8 seems snappier.
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ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
because metro sucks if you have a gaming rig and non touch screen
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Also disagree. I play alsorts of games on my tablet and have had no problems. I will admit that without a touch screen you loose alot of fun from Windows 8, but if you are a serious gamer like me, Windows 7 ultimate x64 is for gaming, windows 8 x64 is for work/living room/bedtime/keeping the wife quiet

Windows RT wont succeed [WP8 in disguise]

Windows RT[WP8 in disguise] wont succeed
Microsoft remove the desktop from it intentionally
so it wont compete the PC market and Intel ofc
so what we getting is just Windows Phone 8 OS Like
ARM is strong enuf to replace PC
many interests to keep ARM in this state
i hate close code always block the future
Microsoft thinks we are wanting her "marketing" os
no, we want windows!

Microsoft is moving towards a more power friendly and more manageable application model in WinRT (the framework). Of course they don't want their tablets to run non-power-optimized code and therefore only support Metro-Style-Applications.
Given that even newest Quad-Core-ARM chips only compete in computational power with Intel's slow Atom CPUs I highly doubt that most of the interesting Desktop applications would work properly.
So even if I'm doubtful if Windows RT will succeed in the tablet market (depends on which devices will be there and how quickly developers create good Metro Apps) I don't think that it will fail because they almost removed the Desktop.

i mean there no reason to choose windows RT before android or iOS
cos Windows RT is Stripped version of Windows 8
and doesn't give us something more then WP7
what the point if there keyboard and mouse for tablet with windows RT

Thread title sounds like a caveman.

agreed have suggestion ?

Proz00 said:
what the point if there keyboard and mouse for tablet with windows RT
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Office perhaps? Which is actually onboard with every Windows RT device.
Also nothing technically speaks against mouse/pen optimized Apps on basis of Metro Apps (Image editing, etc. - the mouse is simply more exact than a finger).
Aside from that a keyboard makes quite a lot of sense whenever you're typing a longer text (E-Mail, forum post, etc.)
As for a topic title: "Windows RT won't succeed" would be the closest to the current.

Office application in metro style ?
no way
thx for fix

Proz00 said:
Office application in metro style ?
no way
thx for fix
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In Windows RT on ARM tablets will be a complete Office 2013 with Word, Excel, Powerpoint and OneNote.
They are not built as a Metro Style App (fullscreen metro app)! They are just the same as on x86 and are running in desktop mode. So every Windows RT tablet will have the same office experience as a tablet or notebook running Windows 8 (Pro).

Proz00 said:
Microsoft remove the desktop from it intentionally
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Nope, they don't.
Win32 applications won't run because... they can't.
But the traditional desktop and files explorer will be there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQe11XKkJlY#t=1m55s

jerome snail said:
Nope, they don't.
Win32 applications won't run because... they can't.
But the traditional desktop and files explorer will be there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQe11XKkJlY#t=1m55s
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Windows RT will come loaded with Office 2013 RT
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/arm-powered-windows-rt-to-run-office-2013-rt/

http://arstechnica.com/information-...hots-show-elegant-fusion-of-ribbon-and-metro/
however its looking good
i think metro will cap generally the OS potential
like IE10 metro version, have very little options .....

I guess it's far less Metro-Design that limits the options and functionality than the fact that those applications have been in development for far less time than their Desktop counter parts.
You won't see the control density you have on the Desktop now, simply because hit boxes would be too small which would make the apps fail certification for the Marketplace but aside from that I see pretty little functionality you could not create using WinRT as the basis.
I'm still really curious how many apps and what apps will be available when Windows 8 and Windows RT finally launch.

RT will certainly be interesting - Microsoft blocking non appstore applications could make it a somewhat limited device.
Still, may be a huge success. Only time will tell
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zeromention said:
RT will certainly be interesting - Microsoft blocking non appstore applications could make it a somewhat limited device.
Still, may be a huge success. Only time will tell
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but doesnt it support different "app stores"
so for example, an ideal setup would be to have your own company hub, which contains all needed local tools, these can be push updated and centrally managed across all win 8 sites,
So if thats possible i dont see why we couldnt do the same, much like we have custom app stores for Windows phone. unless is some kind of server side domain add on...that would suck!
as you say, time will tell but if it is locked down and the security is similar to Windows Phone 7, then its going to be a pain in the arse to crack open, say what you want about WP but its tighter than a ducks arse! were it not for OEM cockups we'd have no development at all!

[Q] How is windows 8 better than windows 7?

if anything i think windows 7 was more user friendly....

harisjd said:
if anything i think windows 7 was more user friendly....
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Well i agree with you on that, but you need to clarify what you mean.
If i personally compare win 7 to any other OS i would say that it is more user friendly, but only because i use windows all of the time and to be frankly there arent many changes on the Overall feel f the OS since win 95 ... still looks kinda the same with more eye candy, i guess you know what i mean.
I have Win 8 Professional on a Slate 7 Series from Samsung and i must say for a touchy device win 8 works just fine, still the thought of running win 8 on my main rig or even my laptop terrifies me, I don't get this "Hey we need 2 overlays, and no start utton because it sucks" ,i know there are dozens of hacks so you can get it back, no worrys but why did they ( Microsoft ) do that?
So in short i like win 7 more simply because im a lazy dude and i do like my OS like my last one like win7 pro and win 8 is ... well :silly: like this i guess

Better memory usage (Page Combining)
Ability to use Microsoft accounts to log in (shared password across devices, ability to reset your password online, etc.)
Sync data between machines that use the same Microsoft account (bookmarks, system settings, some app data, etc.)
Vastly improved task manager
Better virtualization feature (Hyper-V vs. Virtual PC)
Faster boot-up time
System refresh and reset (essentially, automatically reinstall windows and either do or do not preserve your user profile and data, respectively)
Metro app sandboxing (though most metro apps suck, IMO)
Desktop wallpaper slideshow (with the chrome color automatically changing the suit the current background image)
Wallpaper spanning multiple monitors, or showing different wallpaper on each monitor
Taskbar spanning across monitors, with the ability to show taskbar icons for an app on a given monitor only on that monitor's taskbar
The incredibly useful Win+X (or right-click on Start) menu.
I personally prefer the way it handles Windows Update-required reboots.
Better support for new AMD CPUs (makes more efficient use of "bulldozer"-style "modules")
Built-in mail client that can connect to Exchange (though yeah, it kinda sucks otherwise)
Improvements to BitLocker drive encryption
Windows To Go installation to flashdrives
Ability to mount ISO images is now built in
Antivirus is now built in (same thing as Security Essentials, but now part of Defender)
Much better touch and stylus support (requires hardware, of course)
USB3 support out of the box
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There are entire pages on Wikipedia devoted to the differences between Windows versions, if you really want a full list. This is just the stuff that I've used or seen personally.

It is my opinion that if someone cannot use the windows 8 interface then they are likely braindead and have bigger problems. You get stuck you watch microsofts excellent tutorial videos. You get stuck and dont watch the videos, well just quit using the computer.
Windows 8 is alot faster and that is always one benefit from the get go.
More secure.
Some of the windows 8 apps are actually quite nice (although most are complete crap)

Eh, there's a big difference between "can't use" and "would prefer not to use". I definitely think some of the UI changes MS made were stupid. However, I think many other ones were great, and I'm also pretty happy with the OS overall. It's the one I run on my home desktop (custom built; I could have installed Win7 or indeed anything else I wanted instead).

harisjd said:
if anything i think windows 7 was more user friendly....
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Performance. Windows 8 has WDDM 1.2, requires less video memory, and has some kernel tweaks that Win7 doesn't have. I prefer performance over looks :good:

In my opinion the main difficulty or 'feature missing' peopel experiencing is in the look n feel- the aero interface and lack of StartMenu (which is coming back in 8.1 update)...
But dont stop there with your first impression guys... At first i also had thought i would go back on win 7... then i got used to it - its bit annoying sometimes the way the corner mouse thing works to get search, settings etc- but once u used to you find it easier rather than start menu... As everybody said metro apps are not easy to use the way they work ( i had a hard time when i first used skype on metro) and i dont use it ...
Once i customised my desktop with rainmeter like my old win 7 desk, i'm happy like ever....

GoodDayToDie said:
Better memory usage (Page Combining)
Ability to use Microsoft accounts to log in (shared password across devices, ability to reset your password online, etc.)
Sync data between machines that use the same Microsoft account (bookmarks, system settings, some app data, etc.)
Vastly improved task manager
Better virtualization feature (Hyper-V vs. Virtual PC)
Faster boot-up time
System refresh and reset (essentially, automatically reinstall windows and either do or do not preserve your user profile and data, respectively)
Metro app sandboxing (though most metro apps suck, IMO)
Desktop wallpaper slideshow (with the chrome color automatically changing the suit the current background image)
Wallpaper spanning multiple monitors, or showing different wallpaper on each monitor
Taskbar spanning across monitors, with the ability to show taskbar icons for an app on a given monitor only on that monitor's taskbar
The incredibly useful Win+X (or right-click on Start) menu.
I personally prefer the way it handles Windows Update-required reboots.
Better support for new AMD CPUs (makes more efficient use of "bulldozer"-style "modules")
Built-in mail client that can connect to Exchange (though yeah, it kinda sucks otherwise)
Improvements to BitLocker drive encryption
Windows To Go installation to flashdrives
Ability to mount ISO images is now built in
Antivirus is now built in (same thing as Security Essentials, but now part of Defender)
Much better touch and stylus support (requires hardware, of course)
USB3 support out of the box
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There are entire pages on Wikipedia devoted to the differences between Windows versions, if you really want a full list. This is just the stuff that I've used or seen personally.
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Couldn't have said it better myself! :laugh: :good:

Windows 8 is good i used it for a while but for a regular desktop pc windows 7 is better ,windows 8 i think is designed for touchscreens and tablets but for a pc its a fail.Windows 8 is a bit messy with the way apps are used ,a desktop pc have no need for apps or for apps to be cached.i know theres more and more tablets and laptops around now but microsoft have pulled away from the desktop users ,

desiretouchpad said:
Windows 8 is good i used it for a while but for a regular desktop pc windows 7 is better ,windows 8 i think is designed for touchscreens and tablets but for a pc its a fail.Windows 8 is a bit messy with the way apps are used ,a desktop pc have no need for apps or for apps to be cached.i know theres more and more tablets and laptops around now but microsoft have pulled away from the desktop users ,
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Can we please stop repeating the stupid line taken from articles that know nothing about windows 8? Windows 8 is designed for BOTH touch and mouse.
Hell, there are even things you can't do with touch but work very nice with mouse.
And in a few years from now, touch screen monitors will be just as mainstream as mouse and keyboard. Then you will complain that windows does not support touch properly.

mcosmin222 said:
Can we please stop repeating the stupid line taken from articles that know nothing about windows 8? Windows 8 is designed for BOTH touch and mouse.
Hell, there are even things you can't do with touch but work very nice with mouse.
And in a few years from now, touch screen monitors will be just as mainstream as mouse and keyboard. Then you will complain that windows does not support touch proper
Nothing taken from a magazine i had both on the same system ,i went back to win 7 because of usability only and im not complaining just its usless for a regular desktop pc thats currently in use by most people end of story.
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Windows 8 is developed for using the touch apps more efficient as we know touch experience is great in windows 8 rather than windows 7.
Windows 8 have capability of much lower booting Time as it saves all temporary file like in hibernate mode when you shut down your pc.you can find thiw on microsoft website but windows 7 needs more booting time.........
In windows 8 aero theme is removed increasing the graphics performance while it is present in windows 7.
Windows 8 prepares automatic repair if computer is unable to boot but it has to be done manually in windows 7.
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If you have to mount an iso file windows 8 supports mounting natively but in windows 7 you have to install third party software..
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borichamehul5 said:
Windows 8 is developed for using the touch apps more efficient as we know touch experience is great in windows 8 rather than windows 7.
Windows 8 have capability of much lower booting Time as it saves all temporary file like in hibernate mode when you shut down your pc.you can find thiw on microsoft website but windows 7 needs more booting time.........
In windows 8 aero theme is removed increasing the graphics performance while it is present in windows 7.
Windows 8 prepares automatic repair if computer is unable to boot but it has to be done manually in windows 7.
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Aero is not removed completely. Actually, most of aero is still there.

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If you have to mount an iso file windows 8 supports mounting natively but in windows 7 you have to install third party software..
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It manages to do that quite well too. I spent a while on windows 7 hunting down tools for disk image mounting and many of them always had the odd little issues like being slow, or popping up admin privelage windows all the time or requiring a driver.
The windows 8 one requires no setup by anyone or any admin permissions. Just double click .ISO or .IMG and it does it immediately.
On top of that the tool I settled with on windows 7 used to give me file copy speeds from the mounted image of about 10mb/s, I hit 25 on the windows 8 built in tools with the same ISO and on the same PC.
Excellent feature, why the hell didnt we have this already? OSX I think has it, my out of date linux system had it.

Microsoft released "unofficial" tools (PowerToys) to support ISO mounting for some years, but apparently always felt that the potential legal hassles of doing something which could be seen as aiding piracy were not worth the benefit of making it an official feature. With Win8 though, so many machines running it don't have optical drives at all that it's become much more important, and at the same time such tools have generally not faced legal trouble in some time..

There are two girls, opposed to one for Windows 7.
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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One downside though, is that they have brown hair. I always thought the blue hair was a bit more stylish.

No aero glass theme in W8, immediate dislike from me. THe start menu and metro can be avoided or modded into.
There are some cool features in W8 but Miscrosoft should learn not to force users into a half baked tablet experience for the desktop, laptop crowd.
Having to slide windows in the screen with the mouse is completely and utterly annoying and insufferable.

shadowcore said:
No aero glass theme in W8, immediate dislike from me. THe start menu and metro can be avoided or modded into.
There are some cool features in W8 but Miscrosoft should learn not to force users into a half baked tablet experience for the desktop, laptop crowd.
Having to slide windows in the screen with the mouse is completely and utterly annoying and insufferable.
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What do you mean slide windows?
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shadowcore said:
No aero glass theme in W8, immediate dislike from me. THe start menu and metro can be avoided or modded into.
There are some cool features in W8 but Miscrosoft should learn not to force users into a half baked tablet experience for the desktop, laptop crowd.
Having to slide windows in the screen with the mouse is completely and utterly annoying and insufferable.
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Every app o have tried has responded to scroll wheel instead of sliding the window.
For the swipe to close/switch gesture on mouse and keyboard, alt-f4 still closes, hover mouse in top left and slide it down the screen and it shows running apps (where you can right click and close them), hold the Windows key and press tab and you can cycle apps, click top of screen and drag down to close again.
Otherwise I cannot see what you are on about with sliding windows?