Database Users

Public apology

i apologize to any and everyone whose work i have used without getting your permission first i truely truely am sorry. i will be taking everything down that i have posted on xda that has other's work without them giving me permission to use it. and even once i ask them and they deny permission i will be taking the uploads down after that as well. again i'm sorry
as for everyone's comments about my HUGE MISTAKE I'M SORRY ABOUT....
LiquidSolstice said:
I never gave anyone permission to do this. You didn't ask me, you told me after the fact. I was planning on letting guitardoc take over, but this is just unacceptable.
Please take this down.
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i did post a comment on your thread asking you to pm me but you never did and i got impatient and hyped up about things and i just rushed things and posted finished stable builds of your rom without your permission thinking things would be okay if i emphisized 3x on the thread i didn't do anything but finish your rom all credit goes to you for all other work. but again i went about things the wrong way i wasn't trying to take full credit for your rom i thought i made that clear in the first post but i guess saying it 3x still isn't the right way to go about things, glad to see we're working things out (btw everyone check out the title of his thread now ) for the better now bro! so i'd like to say this publicly, SORRY FOR USING YOUR ROM WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION LIQUID! (i wanted to say that on the forum so everyone saw lol ) do you accept my appology liquid? (impaler please ____ , you know what we talked about, after liquid post his reply)
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Uh-oh!
Sent from my Pedal to the Metal Hero
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I know i made a big uh oh!
LiquidSolstice said:
Let's get something straight here, because it seems you're all offended right now. You can stop fishing for pity or sympathy, because I have none for you.
"help" would have been PMing me what you tried to do, I could test it, and if it works, the links would get posted on the ORIGINAL thread with full credit to you. Hell, I would have put a goddamn donate button right next to links to you. That's how proper crediting goes. I credit with permission every single person who has tested or fixed something for me with the ROM, and that would not have been any different.
Instead, without telling me, you copied my thread, put up a modified version of my ROM, and told me only AFTER the fact that you did so.
You have some INSANE issues with understanding permission and crediting, and as I understand it, this isn't your first time. It doesn't matter if you put my name in 72 BOLD pt in this thread, you never asked me and you posted a whole damn new thread for it. That's just not ok.
If you really want to be "omg super-hero dev", you need to start earning your fellow dev's respect, and right now, that's not working out for you.
If you're still interested in being credited for this, PM me with the download links, I'll check them out, and if they are ok, I'll put it in my original 2.1.1 thread with full credit to you. That's how it works.
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i really want to earn my fellow dev's respect but i keep screwing up i'm sorry again bro. and i'm reading the forum rules about crediting as we speak right now.
laie1472 said:
LMAO I gotta post on this. Sup kifno man?? How can you post take down jasonmaloney and i's rom??? When in the op man you don't give him credit for anything. You state you have finished up ls's rom not jasonmaloney and you. And come on kifno you didn't even ask the man could you work on his rom??? Wow impressive.
Yea its me Again With the
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no i asked to take down jasonmaloney's build and my build (two seperate things) b/c we both posted our build's on liquid's thread without his permission.....which was a big no no....but i made things worse by making a seperate thread....again sorry liquid. so there was no need to credit jasonmaloney, laie i know i messed up big time smh stupid move on my part
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Not that it matters much, but his ROMs and jasonmaloney's are separate. jasonmaloney just put his in Liquid's original 2.1.1 thread here.
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exactly what i was saying about taking down our build's....
LiquidSolstice said:
At least jasonmaloney did not try to make a brand new thread about it. He would have asked me ahead of time, as a proper dev should.
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again i asked ahead of time on the thread but no reply but i did screw things up worse by making this thread again sorry....
il Duce said:
this is EXACTLY what I was talking about in the NFX rom that you put up as your own, you are officially a KANGAHOLIC, and people have been and should be banned for it. Every thread you posts seems to be less about development and more about popularity, you even say **** like "my rom" which you could only REALLY say if you built it from google source, which you obviously can't do. I sincerely hope liquid reported you to the Scotsman, and appropriate action is taken. you = sick. me = sickened.
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i said in my rom's thread that it was based of nfx rom and i gave him credit, i said what i did. i didn't do what i did with liquid's rom, two completely different things... il Duce ik i screwed up with this rom and again i won't be making any mess ups like this again (me = thinking before my actions from now on xda) sorry
LiquidSolstice said:
it's not even as though I would have minded him PMing me first or even do what Jasonmaloney did (posting it as a reply in the original thread )
My rom (I say that very loosely) is based on nfx, but only with full permission from nfinite and on popular request. Even further I credited (with permission ) anyone who helped in testing or debugging, and that is the proper thing to do.
I'm just disappointed. that's the worst of it.
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again my apologies are given to you, do you accept? i know i screwed up big time bro....smh big mistake here
33hfl said:
LS should be out of this and not to be so ofended or asking for any recognition about what someone did when he walked away from his own ROM.He sould thank this guy for finish what he started and never finished after a lot of promess and excuses
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no bro i screwed up...i can't even agree to anything you just said b/c all i wanted to do was help
il Duce said:
oh my god you cannot be serious. smh
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read what i said
33hfl said:
go kifno good work
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good work = yes did i mess up? = HELL YEAH!
FdxRider said:
FORUM RULES12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
Seek permission <---- What part of that do you or kifno not understand?
Doesn't matterr if it's been dormant for long time still LS's work. Follow the forum rules.
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i am reading and MEMORIZING the forum rules as of now
dpeeps74 said:
Oh man, I'm team Jacob!
Wait, wrong drama
~run, run, as fast as you can, can't catch me I'm the gingerbread man~
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lol wow
33hfl said:
I dont know why LS is crying right now when he wallked away from his own ROM after a lot of excuses and promises.he turned his back on his own son.He should thank this man for the woderful job done.Or he forgot his post.Kifno never took credit for what he was doing,he always gave it to LS
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i did give credit to him 3x throughout the post and said all i did was finish it as he planned to but i went about it wrong....
FdxRider said:
LMAO u sew funneeeeee! NOT!
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ik that was funny right?
jasonmaloney said:
Again with the hostility.
Folks, there is a report post button on every single post on this site. You would all do better to use it than to fill up the development forum with unnecessary drama.
Yes, it wasn't very smart to use LiquidSolstice's work without his permission AND to start a new thread for it with a misleadingly similar title. But the bickering and harassment isn't any more accepted by the rules, nor is it productive in any constructive way. It doesn't really matter who was originally right or wrong; this forum is getting flooded with way too much verbal diarrhea. This is not the XDA mantra.
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again i apologize for doing what i did to even create this drama....this wouldn't have happened if i did things the correct way....sorry
someonenewhere said:
What's the big deal?
The man gave LS credit and he said it "I'm just finishing what LS COULDN'T FINISH"
LS, if you don't want people to finish your ROM. Maybe YOU SHOULD TRY FINISHING YOUR ROM..
You left your ROM out there as a bastard child and that bastard child found a father to take care of it.
WHY CRY ABOUT IT?
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no no i went about things wrong i take full responsiblity for my mistake...sorry liquid
LiquidSolstice said:
Excellent contribution. It must be nice, sitting there just using other people's work and never really taking the time to find out how it all comes together. I'm sure you must be spoiled and basically taking all these custom ROMs you get for granted as most people seem to these days. Just a quick look at any tech blog concerning Android, and you'll find comments such as "oh I'm not worried, XDA will figure it out". People freeload off this place so willingly, paying nothing in either donation or even respect/appreciation (which is all most devs are looking for)
In the meantime, we'll just go with this; my rom = my rom. Whether or not I want to finish it, or whether or not I want it to be finished, or in this case, wehther or not I want someone else to do it, that would be my choice. I put in the hours, I put in the time, you did nothing.
I left the ROM because no one seemed to give a damn about it, and I'm finding out increasingly that I was very wrong about that. If you looked at Chef Central on the Main XDA Forum page, you'll find a few threads by me asking for help with the last bit of cooking, which was the kernel. I didn't notice that Kifno figured it out, and only realized what I needed to fo when jasonmaloney PMed me. I said I had every intention of making it stable, and I was indeed working on it.
Which means that it is my task and my right to put up the final update to my own ROM, not have someone else do it without even letting me know beforehand or asking me, and then posting my exact thread over again instead of PMing me the link to add it in the OP, and then telling me after the fact.
Kifno has already got in touch with me and we're working it out, you guys can relax now.
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again we talked things out and i'm sorry bro. and yes i may just be improving others work (the espreeso 2.1 rom i posted) and changing things, i never took full credit actually most of it goes to nfx b/c everyday i wake up he has a pm in my inbox helping me out with the espresso 2.1 rom, it wouldn't be where it is at without his help. only thing i can take full credit for is my build.prop's thats the only thing i actually did from my own work as for the espresso 2.1 rom that was from the help of many other members on this site, i never took full credit for that rom. i use the term my rom, when i refer to the espresso 2.1 rom, b/c i changed it, not b/c i developed it from scratch and did everything to it on my own, i'm not a super-dev yet lol. i'm just improving other's work and learning along the way and giving them credit and asking permission along the way from now on until i know enough to make something of my own again (besides text files lol) that will be of great help to the community....but for now i'm focuses on improving my rom (AGAIN IT ISN'T COMPLETELY MY ROM MANY OTHERS HELPED ME ALONG THE WAY) and helping others with their work for the hero and problems....first person on the list....liquid!!!!!! (we're pming each other now folks working this out for the better so its alright)
kevphan08 said:
So.....can we use the Rom or No.....Just seems like it was a mistake by the OP to reuse LS's unfinished work without permission, that obviously was a mistake, but if the rom is up and running and "stable" can we just not forgive and forget?
I'm just wondering, not taking a stance/side just a user asking a question.
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we're working on things right now...

You know what man, you're a smark kid, you just take things a bit fast.
You'll grow to understand what it means to command respect here, and I'm sure you'll earn it from everyone. This place is bursting with ideas and creativity, but just PM ROM devs in the future. Every ROM dev needs help, there's no denying that. Sometimes the help you have to offer isn't enough or isn't to their preference, but there's never any harm in PMing to find out.
As far as my ROM goes, with your help, we'll finish this up and finally put an end to all this over exaggerated madness.

E huuuuuuuuug
[dpeeps74]

I think we all learned something here (I sure did), and that's a positive.

Kifno:
I understand you're trying to help, but make it short and sweet. We don't need a full passive - aggressive rundown of events.
I think you would do a great service to yourself (and the people reading your long disjointed posts) if you learned to use some basic English language sentence structure. Your lack of punctuation and your paragraphs of run-on sentences makes you look uneducated and immature.
You're not a bad person, so please take this as constructive criticism.

Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it

FdxRider said:
Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it
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I AGREE with FDX.... RESPECT MAN!!
KIFNO, Admitted he was Wrong!!
That's Big in itself!! It's seems these days, People find it SO MUCH EASIER to just LIE, or BULL**** their way through MISTAKES and basically LIFE in general!
Kifno DIDN'T DO THAT! Instead he owned up to his MISTAKES....
"LIKE a MAN" Should do!
After the Fact, at the End of the Day, All that's Left to come to some sort RECONCILIATION is a TRUE from the HEART a APOLOGY!!
*Sent On My*
Fast as its Ever Been...
"Sprint" Hero... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero*ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA.BLUE.apk! "Page:10"of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867

Hey kifno
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U no tjsy myvrnhlo
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Wow man great job kifno. It's tough to own up in the face of so many people watching this, you're really just a good person beyond the scope of these forums. I'm proud to call you a fellow human being. I've been watching this escalate and deescalate and I must say it's been a roller coaster ride. I must say some people have been a bit harsher than they should have, but it's understandable when looked at from a different perspective. Kudos to you again.
I'm excited about how the ROM is moving forward at lightning speed right now. Note, LS, that I'm actually using your ROM right now (2.1 stable) and I llllllllooooove it! keep up the good work, I bet it's time-consuming and frustrating to look through and optimize so much code!
~ Jake

Thanks everyone
And I'm not a grammar freak lol I don't treat my post as essays I just type what comes to mind lol that's why my paragraph structure and grammar look bad on the forums just like this very long run on sentence but really constantly working, and school, and keeping 5 roms (mine and ls 4 builds) and my tweak up to date with fixes and new tweaks and optimizations is very time consuming and hard to fit all in one day lol but I just want to help the community and I plan on doing that the right way, LESSON LEARNED HERE, BTW look out for kifno & ls projects in the future

Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!

Many thanks!!
In the aftermath of all this stuff, I just want to say that truly I appreciate ALL the hard work that you devs put into keeping our Heroes from becoming paperweights. Just the small amount of work I've put into making my own themes for myself makes me appreciate the scope of talent and sheer blood, sweat, and tears it takes to make this stuff work.
ALL YOU DEVS ROCK!!!

oohaylima said:
Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!
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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Lol Ya got me cop'er.

user7618 said:
You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Lol.... Good **** Guys, Gotta Nice Laugh Outta Me!!
*Sent on My*
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"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867

user7618 said:
You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other

kifno said:
Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other
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Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
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"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS

PMGRANDS said:
Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS
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*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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user7618 said:
*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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lmao! --> extra characters because my message was too short.

Kifno's last message

OK people, as you all can see kifno is gone. We spoke at length by PM in the last few days, and the result was decent. He asked me post this for him after he left, so here it is:
kifno said:
You may all know me as, kifno. I'd like to let everyone know that yes, in the past I have kanged/stolen/un-credited others for their work. Why? I was a fool who didn't understand what XDA was all about, and didn't even take the time to read the rules. And what have I done to myself? I've dug myself in a hole so deep below the earth's surface, that I'm sweating bullets its so hot down here by the earth's core. But in all serious-ness, I realize that kifno could never EVER undo what he has done in his past to make it up to you all. Even though I have posted some work of my own along with others. The coding and themes that I have truly took the time to do myself. But even using the work of others and reporting it works on the heroc isn't the problem. The problem is the way I went about doing it. And even now that I tried to stop doing so and be an help to the community, that will never undo that. And for that I realize that this account and all its threads and post are a symbol of disgrace to XDA. I am having il Duce let you all know this because I have asked the mods to delete everything that my account has ever done. I've decided to get a fresh start on things and be the person I truly am on XDA and NOT be the person I tried to be, some awesome "dev" because I am not. A few scripts and themes don't make you awesome, being a living symbol of what XDA is about like other developers and themers and scripters and others are what make you "awesome". And that I could never be because of my past. Some of you may find joy in my last words because you kifno gone, others may find joy that I have realized what I have done and what I need to do. Others may find sadness while reading this because of the help I've given them in the past. In no way, shape, or form and I trying to offend anyone but it won't effect my decision on what "kifno" has decided to do, leave. I hope you understand where I am coming from with things and again major thanks to il Duce for posting this for me now that I am gone.
Best Regards XDA,
- Kifno
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This confirms some stuff I've read lately.. and from what I understand Aspen Tree is the name that's displayed when a name is deleted..
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We all should and can learn from our mistakes Kifno.I hope that with some passing of time and a little reflection all will be well.

to much drama

xjayman said:
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Agreed....

Just goes to show, no matter what you do or say, you can't please everyone . Some people just don't get "It" .

I go away for a few days and this happens??
For those old timers around here... I expect another Fixxxer / smoother / markus_del, etc., etc. situation - you know, making multiple accounts and all that.
Personally, if I am right about that, I can't wait for that to happen again. He'll get called out on it, as I think he should be.
If you F*** up, take responsibility and deal with the consequences; there's no need to try and hide by changing your name/identity. "Fresh" start or not, I think creating a new account will only come around to bite him in the ass just as hard as when he was kanging once people find out what his new alter-ego is.
just my 2c
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pstevep said:
and from what I understand Aspen Tree is the name that's displayed when a name is deleted..
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Not a new account !

It got annoying to see his name on everything new out there. The tweak turned out to be sh!t. Some people are saying he already came back with a new name.
Kif, if you read this, stick to one thing and make it awesome. You were spreading yourself too thin.

He was just tring way to hard for his own good in my opinion there have been much worse out there anyone remember sandix from the webos port what a freakin douche lol. i would have died if that had been succesful lol.

kyouko said:
I go away for a few days and this happens??
For those old timers around here... I expect another Fixxxer / smoother / markus_del, etc., etc. situation - you know, making multiple accounts and all that.
Personally, if I am right about that, I can't wait for that to happen again. He'll get called out on it, as I think he should be.
If you F*** up, take responsibility and deal with the consequences; there's no need to try and hide by changing your name/identity. "Fresh" start or not, I think creating a new account will only come around to bite him in the ass just as hard as when he was kanging once people find out what his new alter-ego is.
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Here's the new account. That certainly didn't take long.

Bierce22 said:
He was just tring way to hard for his own good in my opinion there have been much worse out there anyone remember sandix from the webos port what a freakin douche lol. i would have died if that had been succesful lol.
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Yeah, I didn't really have a problem with him because he meant well for heroc nor did I want him to "leave". I just think the way he's handling all this by deleting his Kifno account to take the easy way out is callow.
If he posted that PM instead of having il Duce post it, I for one would have more respect towards him. We all Most of us (not including me ) make mistakes; learn from them and move on.
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Here's the new account. That certainly didn't take long.
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Smh...
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whats the point of just making a new account if your gonna leave then leave.

I can see the reasons for leaving it and creating a new name.. even on owning up to one's mistakes on here there are some of us that don't let things go.. and would have harassed him any way.. i wasn't a kifno fan by any means so not sticking up for him.. and making a new account to not be like the other one would take more discipline than I think he has any way.. its hard to change who you are, or at least convince people you are different..
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pstevep said:
.. i wasn't a kifno fan by any means so not sticking up for him.. and making a new account to not be like the other one would take more discipline than I think he has any way.. its hard to change who you are, or at least convince people you are different..
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that.

jasonmaloney said:
Here's the new account. That certainly didn't take long.
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If that really is him I see he still thinks he's the cats pajamas. Also, I almost vomited from all of the self pity and melodrama in the op. Talking about yourself in the third person is annoying, as well.
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I can't wait to buy a new phone.

aiwetir said:
I can't wait to buy a new phone.
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+1, good sir.
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user7618 said:
+1, good sir.
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aiwetir said:
I can't wait to buy a new phone.
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I think you win the award for funniest lmao.

3.5 ??

So as some of you 3.5 users have noticed Evoking , immaturely closed the topics on both roms. I'm wondering if any real dev is going to take these roms under there wing, and make something useful of it?

Immaturly? I thought it was the demanding/ harassment of the non-dev community?

thlinx said:
So as some of you 3.5 users have noticed Evoking , immaturely closed the topics on both roms. I'm wondering if any real dev is going to take these roms under there wing, and make something useful of it?
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Are you asking to be trolled by someone? I'm assuming he pulled it because of people like you that have no intention of stepping into the devs shoes when asking for immediate results on fresh roms that are ported and or leaked and they are the only ones that take the time to eden try and please active along with their busy lives..
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dgomez720 said:
Are you asking to be trolled by someone? I'm assuming he pulled it because of people like you that have no intention of stepping into the devs shoes when asking for immediate results on fresh roms that are ported and or leaked and they are the only ones that take the time to eden try and please active along with their busy lives..
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Please do your research before assuming anything about what I'm talking about.
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apheonixboy said:
Immaturly? I thought it was the demanding/ harassment of the non-dev community?
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Nobody harassed him lol... He got un-credited help from good devs, while he basked in the glory from there hard work. I really hope those devs take over the rom..

Just like anything else people got tired of waiting and took matters into their own hands.
Seems to me from reading the threads that things were progressing slowly on all fronts so other stepped in and tried to help. This is going to happen when you spread yourself to thin and try to keep of with several ROMs all at once.
I think it's BS to be called out in front of everyone BUT it's also BS to get pissy and be childish by closing the thread(s) at every turn because someone stole you're thunder.
Everyone just needs to grow up.

ItsLasher said:
Just like anything else people got tired of waiting and took matters into their own hands.
Seems to me from reading the threads that things were progressing slowly on all fronts so other stepped in and tried to help. This is going to happen when you spread yourself to thin and try to keep of with several ROMs all at once.
I think it's BS to be called out in front of everyone BUT it's also BS to get pissy and be childish by closing the thread(s) at every turn because someone stole you're thunder.
Everyone just needs to grow up.
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Totally agree. I thought bliss 3.5 had a lot of potential. Its the current daily rom I'm using and its fantastic. However there are some bugs that can be pretty annoying. If someone would take this rom by the balls and make it there own, this would be a perfect rom imo. Fast, good looking, lot of new tools, great battery life. Its miles better than the older sense roms.

Some Random Thought. Do not read if I were you :)

Beware of too much phone obsession.
Are you experiencing this?
1. Spending most of your time in the forum pressing F5 to see some new updates to flash?
2. Asking repeated ETA?
3. Feeling frustrated waiting for the new release?
4. Cant sleep thinking about the new ROM.
5. Holding your phone the whole day?
If you feel some of those symptoms then be very aware.
Remember that we control the device not the device controls us.
Dont ever exchange the precious happy moments you should have to spend with your family and friends rather than stressing yourself at the forum.
We do all the fun here for free, so it should be done as well in our free time.
We do all of this stuff also for fun, so it should be fun, not hurt feelings nor frustration.
Most of us didnt understand that dev/mods are people too, they are not paid they do service for free.
If someone troll/flame we react as well harsely, should it always have to be harsh? cant we speak nicely? What is the difference when you say it in a nice way rather than the other way?
If you feel anger/annoyed about what you read then stay away on your pc/laptop/mobile. Deep breath will help or a lil walk.
If you feel tired, then rest and work again if you regain strenght.
Life is short so dont let machine rule us. I know we feel happy and fun about this stuff but too much is dangerous.
The no. 1 rule I guess here in the forum is "TREAT OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM TREAT YOU".
If you troll/flame then dont expect that people will help and be nice at you.
If you ask nicely and help, well there will be so much help for you when you face problem.
Am I saying any sense here? Hahaha just random thought.
Good day earthlings.

Uh... I think I have symptoms 1 & 5...
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how bout this?
or this?

Guilty as charged!
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Guess its too late to quite...oh well, this IS the future so...
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I am getting there ..

Does using the phone while taking a shower count ???
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Can we get a tl;Dr?
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Yeah, all things
But I do other things too
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I won't bother on the first things about "obsession", but on your thoughts about behaviour.
First of all, there are actually people here who are devs and they speak to people far worse than the usual "trolls". Yet no one says anything exactly because they are devs, even though there are some examples of them acting like this before even posting anything worthy.
Next, I will never agree with the "devs do this with no money blah blah" yes ok, we do understand that, we respect that, we utterly appreciate that, but that doesn't mean that they are above criticism.Don't forget that it was their choice to post their work in public, so justified criticism must be expected.
Having said that,I also say I really appreciate people that are not devs, yet they do make roms but they behave people with some humility.
If someone annoys us, it's not always us that have to "take a breath", it may be that the person is really annoying.
And last, no, the device doesn't control us.It affects us though to the extent of lagging, for example, when you mostly need it. Imagine having to make an extremely important phone call, and then it decides to lag as hell and fc everything.This is why I don't think people that press F5 to see if there's development on their favourite rom, are obsessed.

Hi Vicky,
Thanks for your sentiments
I know what you are trying to say on your first paragraph. I know some people do speak maturely, I wrote it in general so that message is for everyone and thanks for emphasizing your observation.
If your talking about donations involved well arent they worthy? But if your doubting maybe you could ask them. Heres the truth. The benefit of being "Recognized Developer" here in the forum is just the tag itself if we are talking about money here. Aside from that nothing except on the donations they got from there work. I dont know if I understand you well ("devs do this with no money blah blah") correct me if Im wrong.
One thing we cannot please every people thats why were created uniquely
Ofcourse its always us. Why? Coz simply we cannot control nor mandate on the "annoying person". If they are pure evil they will just laugh at you which causes more annoyance and worst anger on you. So as long as you can run from it run.
The setup of our device actually depends on us. Take note that device has limitations if you exceed on that certain limitations then expect that there will be problem along the way. We will not experience any lags, error etc if we do not over push our device to its extent. Whos to blame the device, the rom? I dont think so
We do this to improve our device yes thats why its up to us to pick with suites on our needs.
Again Im happy to read some people who do care
Thanks,
with love,
deedii

Hej!
First, I was not talking about donations.I believe that every one who is able to donate to the devs, should do this, simply because devs spend time from their life to make these roms. I was trying to say that, while I really appreciate these people, that doesn't mean we should always hush on things they say, and mistakes they make...
i don't really agree with you on the part that we push out devices...It's not that much to ask from a phone to make a call or send an sms, when you have minimum apps installed and no other apps running... I am saying this because I have experienced this, this is clear, and there where times where the rom simply failed to do so while others managed.
That's why I am saying that, for example, when people are on MiniCm9 thread all day is because it is very good so far, there's only on big thing missing, and since weeks ago we had news that camera is working, partially though, it's not that weird that people are all over it...
Not to take account how much people had been waiting for a fully working ICS.
Finally though, I do have to agree about many people being so completely obsessed and also asking too many things from poor X8. The device itself is amazing, considering that it was released 1.5 year ago and with a small price, and it's a born survivor(this device has been through everything-falls, sand, water, not to mention endless messing with kernels and such), but we have to accept that we won't get fireworks from it...
ps.Nice to have such conversation, you know, with disagreements but with class

Oh well we agree on certain things.
Imagine joining a horse race and your ridding on a donkey.
Simply choose what is best for you

deedii said:
Oh well we agree on certain things.
Imagine joining a horse race and your ridding on a donkey.
Simply choose what is best for you
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That sounds like something i would do
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You forgot to say when you stay on WC for 1 hour playing on phone I do this...now i like to go to take a s**t.
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CosminAdriaan said:
You forgot to say when you stay on WC for 1 hour playing on phone I do this...now i like to go to take a s**t.
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...Omg...you're in my mind.
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CosminAdriaan said:
You forgot to say when you stay on WC for 1 hour playing on phone I do this...now i like to go to take a s**t.
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I view XDA from my point of pleasure. Don't take that the wrong way.
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IrishStuff09 said:
I view XDA from my point of pleasure. Don't take that the wrong way.
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Hehehehehe......
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IrishStuff09 said:
I view XDA from my point of pleasure. Don't take that the wrong way.
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Hey shane, ir forgot to say, your sig needs updating, its needs to say xperia play in it

wilbso said:
Hehehehehe......
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Hey shane, ir forgot to say, your sig needs updating, its needs to say xperia play in it
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Oh ya! I never got round to doing it on my PC yet.
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IrishStuff09 said:
Oh ya! I never got round to doing it on my PC yet.
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Ahh, ok, remember to do it
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please delete

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xda members do not deserve it. sorry but you dont.

"So you couldn’t get a $150 off Moto X code because sites like this try to horde them in an attempt to generate ad revenue by getting site views"
If motorola gave them to you for this purpose then just ignore me

dymmeh said:
"So you couldn’t get a $150 off Moto X code because sites like this try to horde them in an attempt to generate ad revenue by getting site views"
If motorola gave them to you for this purpose then just ignore me
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Yeah, unless Motorola gave them to the site then I would say everyone should avoid the linked site at all costs.

Someone delete this thread.

these were not hoarded at all. i got them from various friends and peeps on twitter and now giving them back to the community. If any other android news website does a giveaway it's cool but if a new website does it it's called hoarding. seriously guys .

@munchy_cool they don't deserve anything from you, ungrateful and rude bunch. They obviously haven't read any of your articles and reviews.
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If you ungrateful peons knew who Munchy really was, you'd not be so cynical.
Thanks Munchy. I'd like to apologize for these fools, since ignorance seems to be more prevalent with each new XDA "member".

Wow, so this is what it's come to? XDA has really changed from the time I joined. I know Munchy from outside of XDA, and I would stake my account on the simple truth that he was actually going to give the codes away.
Nice job guys, really. Mods need to delete this thread, because he's made it pretty clear outside of XDA that he's not giving the codes away now.

Product F(RED) said:
Wow, so this is what it's come to? XDA has really changed from the time I joined. I know Munchy from outside of XDA, and I would stake my account on the simple truth that he was actually going to give the codes away.
Nice job guys, really. Mods need to delete this thread, because he's made it pretty clear outside of XDA that he's not giving the codes away now.
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wow...xda...how low has this place gotten? ugh. munchy is good peeps.

HAHA. I like munchys edit.
"xda members do not deserve it. sorry but you dont."
Should have closed it with Happy Holidays.

dymmeh said:
"So you couldn’t get a $150 off Moto X code because sites like this try to horde them in an attempt to generate ad revenue by getting site views"
If motorola gave them to you for this purpose then just ignore me
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Steve-x said:
Yeah, unless Motorola gave them to the site then I would say everyone should avoid the linked site at all costs.
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If you don't need it,just go away. Some other person may need it.

Thanks guys ...
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Great site. I got bored, so I just went there. I thought this thread was going to get ugly, that's why I said "someone delete this thread". And to those who said that he did this for ad revenue, I looked at his site, and there are all of 3 (non obtrusive) ads.
I bet they wouldn't complain if it was engadget or something that did the giveaway.
@munchy_cool - I think you might need a server upgrade It took me a while to load the page.

aooga said:
@munchy_cool - I think you might need a server upgrade It took me a while to load the page.
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the first load takes some time but it should be faster the next time.I will read on how to make it faster, already have wpcache but maybe need to tweak the settings.
I do this for a hobby, not for making money so if and when I make money from ads that will go back to the community in forms of gadget giveaways and not into my own pocket as I earn enough to make a good living.
BTW thanks for the support.

munchy_cool said:
the first load takes some time but it should be faster the next time.I will read on how to make it faster, already have wpcache but maybe need to tweak the settings.
I do this for a hobby, not for making money so if and when I make money from ads that will go back to the community in forms of gadget giveaways and not into my own pocket as I earn enough to make a good living.
BTW thanks for the support.
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Another thing is that it's probably hosted in India right? (just assuming because of the co.in)
That probably adds some time (im in the us)

aooga said:
Another thing is that it's probably hosted in India right? (just assuming because of the co.in)
That probably adds some time (im in the us)
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yes sir, hosted in India and that is one of the reasons for slow loading in US. wpcache should do the trick the next time.

SMDH...
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SMDH... no appreciation Munchy!

davidusr said:
SMDH...
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SMDH... no appreciation Munchy!
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^LOL @ SMDH if it's what I think it is.

Dang bro. XDA had turned into a bunch of stuck up kids with nothing better to do than troll. You're a good guy munchy and you know where to go to give those codes to people that want them.
No wonder all the developers leave here after a while.

housry23 said:
Dang bro. XDA had turned into a bunch of stuck up kids with nothing better to do than troll. You're a good guy munchy and you know where to go to give those codes to people that want them.
No wonder all the developers leave here after a while.
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ha ha ..Thanks Ryan . you know where to find them