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EVO 4G Tablet Dock (Concept) UPDATED

Hey Guys,
I have had this idea for a while and just got around to making some concept renders of a tablet that the EVO would dock into.
This 10.1" tablet would work only when the EVO is docked in it (a la Atrix 4G). The tablet would utilize the camera, headphone jack and processor of the EVO 4G, while using the mini HDMI and USB ports to transmit data and images. There is an internal battery, front facing camera, volume rocker, mini HDMI, and mini USB port on the tablet to make using the device easier.
Advantages of a tablet dock:
-Less expensive (after phone is purchased) than a standalone tablet
-Real integration of phone and tablet (contacts, pictures, apps etc)
-Keeping bulk to one side reduces the torque on the wrist and makes the tablet seem lighter
-Using existing phone to power the tablet reduces the amount of internal components, reducing the thickness of the majority of the tablet
-Uses phone service instead of a separate data plan
Disadvantages:
-Dependant on phone specs (CPU, WiMAX, etc)
-Not compatible with other phones (although I think Google should standardize phone connections and locations)
I would love feedback and suggestions, and keep in mind this is a first gen concept. I will be updating this based on what people have to think.
I have created a sliding dock for my phone which holds the phone firmly in place and connects HDMI and USB in a sliding case (Sedio Innocase with HTC Media Dock modified to fit). This will be used in the prototype tablet.
Enjoy!
Edit: Here's the Atrix 4G dock, as mentioned above:
http://www.cellphonenews.com/wp-content/uploads/cc003c27Laptop-Dock.jpg
And here are multi-touch screen overlays, which I believe work over USB
http://www.22miles.com/hardware/multi-touch-hardware
edited renders to change orientation of the phone.
Added images of dock prototype

wow, this looks ridiculously amazing!!

Holy crap! I was literally imagining something exactly like this last week. Awesome work!

Can I has now? Please!!!!
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So what exactly do you do with this concept? Sell it to a manufacturer?

m4rk0358 said:
So what exactly do you do with this concept? Sell it to a manufacturer?
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I emailed it to HTC and Google but there are a lot of gaps still obviously.
I have no desire to make money off of this, just to get something like this in the market. Maybe a job would be nice haha

The only problem I see would be running honeycomb only when docked unless we plan on always running honeycomb

ellis125 said:
The only problem I see would be running honeycomb only when docked unless we plan on always running honeycomb
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haha thats just me being hopeful. It could run gingerbread or icecream

I'd buy this.
Another cool thing about it, it could run off of the Evo's service. You wouldnt have to get an extra plan to use it.
I'm not sure what the Atrix is, but were you thinking something like the phone in that motorola commercial where the guy is in custody at the airport, and trying to tell the cop that its a phone, AND a computer?

Now, if we can just get the batt issue fixed on our lovely evos; I'm wondering whats needed to power the lcd?

davilu said:
Now, if we can just get the batt issue fixed on our lovely evos; I'm wondering whats needed to power the lcd?
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could have its own battery right?

jasongthang said:
I'd buy this.
Another cool thing about it, it could run off of the Evo's service. You wouldnt have to get an extra plan to use it.
I'm not sure what the Atrix is, but were you thinking something like the phone in that motorola commercial where the guy is in custody at the airport, and trying to tell the cop that its a phone, AND a computer?
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Yeah it would just be an extension of the phone, service and all. The atrix is that phone you mentioned with the laptop dock, but they use a custom linux operating system that boots when the phone is "docked". This could either just mirror the existing OS or could load honeycomb or some other operating system.

This is awesome and all. But again, how will touch inputs work? Has anyone attempted to get clone the screen, via HDMI, to a touchscreen panel and have it work both ways on inputs?
That all happens at the hardware level, PCB, etc., etc.
This is an excellent concept but unless the phone is built with being able to use an EXTERNAL touchscreen it's not going to work.

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could have its own battery right?
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yeah exactly, just like the Atrix laptop dock.
There's definately room there for three flat batteries between the screen and the and case. If the can fit batteries in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 or the IPad 2, they can do it here.
Thank for all of the responses, I guess I'll have to make some new renders soon with the phone and different angles to keep up the interest

goodboynyc said:
This is awesome and all. But again, how will touch inputs work? Has anyone attempted to get clone the screen, via HDMI, to a touchscreen panel and have it work both ways on inputs?
That all happens at the hardware level, PCB, etc., etc.
This is an excellent concept but unless the phone is built with being able to use an EXTERNAL touchscreen it's not going to work.
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that's the hardest part about this, and you're entirely right. We need some way of essentially splicing into the EVO 4G's digitizer and pretending that the tablet's touchscreen is the same. That, or we can emulate touch as a mouse (which is enabled on custom ROMS) and send signals via bluetooth, which would be very laggy and battery intensive.
I know that you can buy touch screen overlays for netbooks that enable touch over USB, so there is hope! Unfortunately, these usually are single touch and not very accurate, and they are another layer that needs to be applied to the screen.
I think that if HTC or any large company were to create a tablet like this, they would be able to integrate a solution with a phone the way the Atrix works. Hopefully this becomes a trend!

Sweet idea. I'd love to have this set up. I hope HTC likes it.
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a tab that makes calls??????!!!!!!!
where do I buy one? don't give me prices, take mah munny and gimme!

This looks really neat, and with recent HDMI developments almost possible.

Its amazing. If htc is not interested maybe some chinese manufacturer could help. It is really a good idea.
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Finally Solution to HDMI port (CES 12)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Sometimes, the simplest ideas are the best ones, and Analogix Slim Port technology certainly qualifies as both. It's a cabling solution that allows you to mirror what's on your phone or tablet's screen to your TV via microUSB -- instead of needing an extra HDMI or MHL port. Analogix's secret sauce is on a chip embedded in the jack portion of the cable and because it's based on DisplayPort technology, it can connect using HDMI, VGA, or DVI connections. Of course, as an OEM, Analogix won't be selling the cables when they go on sale this summer, but retailers like Belkin and BizLink will probably be put one in your bag for around $20 or $30 bucks.
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So now we can connect our beloved Play to that TV XD

I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play

ff7fan4eva said:
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
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i dont get you guys it clearly says it uses the MICRO USB port on the mobile device i mean how much more clearer need it be regardless ive sent an email to analogix and will tell u guys what they say

Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Hogwarts said:
Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.

TLRtheory said:
You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now

You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.

Hogwarts said:
I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.

A bit off topic, but I don't think I ever posted this while I was analyzing the play for HDMI.
According to the kernel, the Dev plays have this chipset and all Plays have the drivers for it: http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/adv7520/products/product.html
And this can be seen on the Dell Streak: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell-Streak-Teardown/3512/2
Now, I tore apart my Play (when I had it), and I can confirm that that chip is NOT on my retail r800i. This means that there is no "hidden" port or some unfilled solderpads that can be used to attach a microhdmi. There is NO support on the retail motherboard for it. You can't even buy the ADV7520 chip because there are no space on the retail motherboard for it.

There's no chip or hdmi port on the play I've watched dissasemblies of all types r800a,x,I
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There is a solution where you connect to a bluetooth HDMI dongle using your bluetooth and its specific app to stream phone content onto the screen, I think it was mentioned on Engadget but I cannot seem to find the link for it.

Logseman said:
check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.

Hogwarts said:
so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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I don't have a theory, as I don't care one bit about TV output of any kind. However, you mentioned that the PSP wasn't powerful enough to beam out content, which is not a problem in the Xperia Play (or Arc and Neo for that matter).

Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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bubblegumballoon said:
Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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Pretty sure it didn't
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AndroHero said:
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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FINALLY someone bothers to actually read the goddamed article

So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.

HearthC0re said:
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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The adapter is probably accompanied with an app. Although the app would need root acces, atleast I think so.

whilst i think this would be an awesome piece of kit if it works as intended, im a little curious as to how it actually works, afaik the cpu sends its work to the gpu for output, the gpu processes it, and outputs it to the display....so how exactly does the usb port get the information from gpu...maybe easy with root access on one device...but making it work on a wide range of devices would be crazy hard.
im not gonna straight up bash this, because they have said its a vendor agnostic solution, so im assuming they have worked out some technical magic with no downsides to pull this off. I'm all for being proved wrong, i just want to see it in action.

TLRtheory said:
You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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First statement is a bit overstated.
By capability the gpu in the PSP has a fillrate of 30 million polygons/s
I believe our Adreno has 52 mil/s
Plus instead of the capability I believe it was the limitation of USB speeds that affected the computer mirroring software.
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Putting usb hub inside the TF

If you've ever opened up the TF, you'd very quickly realized that there's a lot of unused room in there. I found a 64gb flash drive from walmart for about $60 a piece. Got 3 of these. That gives me almost 200 GB.
I've been doodling with the idea of putting a usb hub inside the TF and then solder these flash drives onto it. Making room for the whole setup is no problem. Like I said, there's a lot of unused space in there. The problem is I don't know how to connect a usb hub inside there for the tablet to recognize it. Any idea guys?

goodintentions said:
If you've ever opened up the TF, you'd very quickly realized that there's a lot of unused room in there. I found a 64gb flash drive from walmart for about $60 a piece. Got 3 of these. That gives me almost 200 GB.
I've been dooling with the idea of putting a usb hub inside the TF and then solder these flash drives onto it. Making room for the whole setup is no problem. Like I said, there's a lot of unused space in there. The problem is I don't know how to connect a usb hub inside there for the tablet to recognize it. Any idea guys?
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i have a similar project in the works. i just wonder if we have a limit as to what size (storage) usb drive we use i want to try a usb powered 1tb hard drive...the possibilities would be endless.
one other idea i have no clue of how and if possible. but you know the EXT.(as internal) SD mod, what if we could find a way to do that with the usb storage.think of 1tb of storage("internally")!!!!!!

kevhuff said:
i have a similar project in the works. i just wonder if we have a limit as to what size (storage) usb drive we use i want to try a usb powered 1tb hard drive...the possibilities would be endless.
one other idea i have no clue of how and if possible. but you know the EXT.(as internal) SD mod, what if we could find a way to do that with the usb storage.think of 1tb of storage("internally")!!!!!!
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I've already done what you're talking about. I've already put 500gb, 750gb, and 1T HDD into the docking station while keeping the batteries.
What I'm talking about is putting flash drives inside the TF itself, not the dock.

yeh but im taking the dock apart and putting it inside like you are saying inside the tab that would better i think you idea is better.
i think both in conjunction would be insane!

kevhuff said:
yeh but im taking the dock apart and putting it inside like you are saying inside the tab that would better i think you idea is better.
i think both in conjunction would be insane!
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http://www.androidauthority.com/talented-modder-crams-500gb-hard-drive-into-asus-transformer-25981/

Love the dock mod but the images isnt working in the thread
But getting the TF to recognize the usb hub should be that complicated.
You'd probably need the usb host adapter (or make one yourself, if possible, idk).
Then it should just be a matter of soldering the adapter to the correct pins on the docking connector.
You might need a switch of some sort to tell the TF when to be host and when to be slave.
I dont own the usb host adapter myself yet, so Im not sure how the TF acts with the adapter connected.
Maybe its still possible to charge and sync even though the adapter is connected.

Goodintentions your the man you beat me to it ill post some pics when I get myne done

kevhuff said:
Goodintentions your the man you beat me to it ill post some pics when I get myne done
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OMG, you're going to be like apple aren't you? You're going to get a pattent for it and then you're going to sue me...

you couldnt pay me enough to be anything like Crapple not a fan of the mainstream overated Os's/products

kevhuff said:
you couldnt pay me enough to be anything like Crapple not a fan of the mainstream overated Os's/products
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Haha, we'll see.
I've figured out a way to solder in a usb board and connect a hub to it to add those 128gb flash drives. After spending all night going through the plans, I'm abandoning the thought of putting it into the TF itself. I'll be putting those flash drives into the keyboard dock, though. Solid state drives are certainly much better than the spin discs. Let's see, 128gb x 4 = 512gb of flash drive space... won't suck up my battery much and aren't prone to damage due to movement like the HDD.
Stay tuned for the result!

goodintentions said:
Haha, we'll see.
I've figured out a way to solder in a usb board and connect a hub to it to add those 128gb flash drives. After spending all night going through the plans, I'm abandoning the thought of putting it into the TF itself. I'll be putting those flash drives into the keyboard dock, though. Solid state drives are certainly much better than the spin discs. Let's see, 128gb x 4 = 512gb of flash drive space... won't suck up my battery much and aren't prone to damage due to movement like the HDD.
Stay tuned for the result!
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Man, you have balls modding out your dock like that I was impressed with your first dock mod of sticking that 500GB hard drive in it. Did you ever go back to that idea with doubling the battery life in the dock? I recall following that thread reading your updates and you got to a point where you said screw it.

traumbrecher said:
Man, you have balls modding out your dock like that I was impressed with your first dock mod of sticking that 500GB hard drive in it. Did you ever go back to that idea with doubling the battery life in the dock? I recall following that thread reading your updates and you got to a point where you said screw it.
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Without people like me who like to push things to their limits, we'd still be writing with hammer and chisel on stone.

There's 2 questions that come to mind.
1) Will any of the USB ports support a USB hub? I seem to remember there being some issues with this, but I honestly can't remember anymore...
2) Will you lose the use of 1 of the USB ports on the tablet?
I'm inclined to say that most likely 2 will happen, unless you're very VERY good at modifying the boards and don't mind cutting trace, possibly. If I knew I could afford another keyboard dock, I'd be doing this right now. Sadly, I can't. =/
EDIT:Well, in a quick check with my ****ty USB hub, it didn't like any of my USB sticks, then saw 1 of them but none of the files on it, then just kept showing that 1 stick no matter what I put in it. I'm rebooting, but I'm kinda thinking it doesn't like the USB hub I have, or doesnt' support them?
EDIT2: Seems that it only lets me see 1 USB drive at a time. No matter what I did (outside of using the port on the other side). I kinda think either my USB Hub isn't working well (works fine on my PC) with the TF, or it just doesn't support it for some reason. Or more to the point, it seems it only supports 1 USB disk drive per USB port on the dock. If I put 1 drive in each port I get USBdisk1 and USBdisk2. Perhaps it's an OS issue or a TF issue in some way as far as software? One would think you could get more than 1 USB disk on each port though.

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goodintentions said:
Without people like me who like to push things to their limits, we'd still be writing with hammer and chisel on stone.
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So true. And without Android...we would probably be using a single core under 1Ghz. I still remember people saying "why do you need that much power?" Then..."who needs dual cores"...now..."quad core? Forget about it!" Hahahaha

darkhawkff said:
There's 2 questions that come to mind.
1) Will any of the USB ports support a USB hub? I seem to remember there being some issues with this, but I honestly can't remember anymore...
2) Will you lose the use of 1 of the USB ports on the tablet?
I'm inclined to say that most likely 2 will happen, unless you're very VERY good at modifying the boards and don't mind cutting trace, possibly. If I knew I could afford another keyboard dock, I'd be doing this right now. Sadly, I can't. =/
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You really ought to read my hard mod thread. All of this has been discussed very thoroughly there. 2 Will happen. So what? There's 2 usb slots. Lose a usb slot to trade for 500gb storage space.
But that's why I put in a switch to turn on and off the hard drive. When the hard drive is off, the usb is usable.

goodintentions said:
You really ought to read my hard mod thread. All of this has been discussed very thoroughly there. 2 Will happen. So what? There's 2 usb slots. Lose a usb slot to trade for 500gb storage space.
But that's why I put in a switch to turn on and off the hard drive. When the hard drive is off, the usb is usable.
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I did read your thread...you probably don't remember me asking similar questions before
Honestly though, read the few edits I put above....I kinda think this won't work the way you want it to...seems to be some kind of strange software issue in regards to USBdisk's, for some reason.
EDIT:I guess it COULD work, if you could mount them somehow. I'm not sure how the addressing and such works, and honestly my linux knowledge isn't what it used to be. I guess what I'm saying is it could be done, I'm just not personally sure how in software. If you figure it out though, let me know. I'm sure I'd be interested.

Any chance you could reupload the images for your HDD mod?
Shame you abandoned the idea of putting the hub inside the TF, that wouldve been very interesting.

[Q] output

being a total newbie to tablets i am looking to finally delve in with a nexus 10, it looks a amazing machine, and everything i am looking for, well except for one item.
i regularly use my laptop to give presentations, and need to connect to a projector via vga.
Colleagues use the iPad, and it is seamless, but personally i prefer the android route.
From all my research i have come to the conclusion that this is not feasible on the nexus 10?
cant beleive such a high ens spec machine cannot support it.
Please any one shed some light.
Thanks
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VGA is low spec...
Get a HDMI to vga adapter.
Via my HTC Rezound

Adapters are cheap stuff. You will need two, though: micro-HDMI to HDMI, and from there, HDMI to VGA.

Thanks,
I assume then it just mirrors the screen?
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kiltedscot said:
Thanks,
I assume then it just mirrors the screen?
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It should, yes.

well, technically, it doesn't "just" mirror the screen, it should also output sound. still, i wonder, why you put "just mirror the screen" in your post, what more do you expect from a video out? cookies?

Chef_Tony said:
well, technically, it doesn't "just" mirror the screen, it should also output sound. still, i wonder, why you put "just mirror the screen" in your post, what more do you expect from a video out? cookies?
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It won't do audio through vga.

Kookas said:
Adapters are cheap stuff. You will need two, though: micro-HDMI to HDMI, and from there, HDMI to VGA.
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http://dx.com/p/hdmi-male-to-vga-male-converter-adapter-w-3-5mm-audio-jack-white-143070?item=2
Kapow. Who knew these existed.
Whether the Nexus puts out enough juice over HDMI to power it though, who can say without trying it.

kiltedscot said:
need to connect to a projector via vga.
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I feel for you man! At work we have to put up with the worst equipment paid for with ginormous amounts of money.
At my work, the technical coordinator bought a Smartboard, which is a giant touchscreen with a few software extras. It is about a 70" inch screen and has been introduced as the more expensive top model. Naturally, I brought some equipment to take it through a test drive - an hdmi adapter for my Galaxy S3 and some 1080p trailers.
Then came realisation - not only do they connect it via VGA to the presentation pc, it only supports 1366 * 768 max resolution (the S3 would happily output 1080p if supported). Piece Of Crap Deluxe. At least they extended a HDMI cable to where the PC stands, but it doesn't have a suitable graphics adapter. Will still look crappy anway when they eventually upgrade that one. :crying:

no chance of a section for the dell venue 8 pro tablet?

And... any plans for a windows 8 app for xda?

I would like one as well. These tabs are capable of so much that this is now my sole computer for school work. Audio is super loud, no beats hack needed and it can run ccleaner. How could you guys NOT be on board?

I will request this as well. I just got my Venue 8 Pro and all I can say is WOW! it beats any of my Android tablets hands down. It has become my go to tablet for everything. I'm even starting to like Windows 8.1 I just wish I could install apps to the SD card. Hopefully someone will fix that...

texasredrider said:
I will request this as well. I just got my Venue 8 Pro and all I can say is WOW! it beats any of my Android tablets hands down. It has become my go to tablet for everything. I'm even starting to like Windows 8.1 I just wish I could install apps to the SD card. Hopefully someone will fix that...
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I also have one, great tablet, I would like to see this too..........

I just got one yesterday and I mostly love it but with a few issues:
1. Using the USB port as a charge and device connector through USB OTG. Basically this means you can't use a device AND charge at the same time. No way to make a dock either. The should have at least put pogo pins on the outside of the case or put a Qi charger panel on the battery... Oh.. side complaint: 2A charger needed. So while it uses a USB cable, few PCs will have the chops to charge this thing. Then again, same for my Samsung Note 10.1 and the Apple iPad series.
2. No mini-HDMI, MHL or SlimPort support. You can hang a USB video card on it, but then you can't charge it and those things suck power. So we're talking powered USB hub... Miracast really doesn't cut it. Nothing supports it and external Miracast dongles are not cheap.
3. No GPS. I know this isn't standard on Windows devices, but it's very common on Android devices. Mind you - you should be able to use your phone to provide GPS data (ot to mention internet connections) over Bluetooth, so that's not as bad as it might seem.
4. Screen resolution. Ok - I'm actually of mixed minds on this - I'd like 1920x1200 - but even at 1280x800 the text seems small when you're in desktop mode...
5. Stereo speakers would be nice - but yeah, the one they include is LOUD.
6. 4GB RAM option would have been nice too.
None of these are killers - although 1 comes close. Still, the ability to run Visual Studio and do development on a tablet I can keep in my jacket pocket is really amazing... and even more amazing at $350.

It's not without compromises sure but it is one hell of an amazing tablet I No longer have a pc or laptop, I bought the official Keyboard and a cheap bluetooth mouse and I can work on it as well as play on it
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Charge + USB option.
TheWerewolf said:
I just got one yesterday and I mostly love it but with a few issues:
1. Using the USB port as a charge and device connector through USB OTG. Basically this means you can't use a device AND charge at the same time. No way to make a dock either. The should have at least put pogo pins on the outside of the case or put a Qi charger panel on the battery... Oh.. side complaint: 2A charger needed. So while it uses a USB cable, few PCs will have the chops to charge this thing. Then again, same for my Samsung Note 10.1 and the Apple iPad series.
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Try this: http://www.toddklindt.com/ChargeDV8
Scott

urphonesux said:
I would like one as well. These tabs are capable of so much that this is now my sole computer for school work. Audio is super loud, no beats hack needed and it can run ccleaner. How could you guys NOT be on board?
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Hay just got a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64gig yesterday how do I make a bootable backup of the recovery image to a USB stick so I can have more space on my Tablet thanks

matthewtech770 said:
Hay just got a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64gig yesterday how do I make a bootable backup of the recovery image to a USB stick so I can have more space on my Tablet thanks
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Just got my Dell Venue Pro 8
I just got my Dell Venue Pro 8 and I was so surprised. Wow. I have also an iPad Air and Nexus 7 2013, but this tablet is going to be my favorite for a long time I think. Able to install Spotify, CCleaner, and was surprise by the quality of the windows 8 apps. For ex: FB, Twitter, Foursquare, but also Nook (as epub reader), FitBit, Netflix, OneNote, etc. Excellent surprise.

i am using it as a pc in my studio during the week.
great for surfing, youtube, office work, etc
i am totally happy with it :cyclops:

I love mine as well. If you're thinking of getting one don't hesitate.