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Force close loop

Hey. Well, let me first say I've literally spent the past 12+ hours working on my phone. I am exhausted mentally. I searched the forums and I was shocked to see that only one topic came up about it and it wasn't even about force closes. It was a 100+ page CM post.
I rooted for the first time today using a method posted on these forums + extra info I found about adding the OTA radio leak, and installed UV Hydra kernels. I got Rom manager and flashed Skyraider 2.2 Sense. I booted a few times too and all was good. I swear I thought I was doing it all right taking it slow, rreading all of the info over and over. A true noob. Everything was all cozy until I got my old apps and tried to make a backup with Titanium.
It's so cliche to say it but I need serious help. I don't know what to do and I'm near tears after all this work. I have dozens of force closes going on immediately after boot and even thereafter. At one point it asked me to reset up the phone. I can't run any app because they force close immediately.
I don't know if it's the Rom, something else, or me.
I know this is long winded. Please forgive me. And if this is in the wrong forum section, please forgive that too.

Do a full wipe in recovery and flash the rim and kernel again...but upon restoring, only restore downloaded apps, not system apps.
I remember when it took 12+ hours just to get root (for some people anyway) those were the days.
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lilsaphyre said:
Hey. Well, let me first say I've literally spent the past 12+ hours working on my phone. I am exhausted mentally. I searched the forums and I was shocked to see that only one topic came up about it and it wasn't even about force closes. It was a 100+ page CM post.
I rooted for the first time today using a method posted on these forums + extra info I found about adding the OTA radio leak, and installed UV Hydra kernels. I got Rom manager and flashed Skyraider 2.2 Sense. I booted a few times too and all was good. I swear I thought I was doing it all right taking it slow, rreading all of the info over and over. A true noob. Everything was all cozy until I got my old apps and tried to make a backup with Titanium.
It's so cliche to say it but I need serious help. I don't know what to do and I'm near tears after all this work. I have dozens of force closes going on immediately after boot and even thereafter. At one point it asked me to reset up the phone. I can't run any app because they force close immediately.
I don't know if it's the Rom, something else, or me.
I know this is long winded. Please forgive me. And if this is in the wrong forum section, please forgive that too.
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Wow, That sounds like a seriously horrific days. Not sure if I can help, but i'll sure as hell try to. Can you verify that you Baseband Version is 2.05.00.06.11?
Did you create a nandroid backup of before you flashed any of the kernels? If you did I would restore that backup as I know some people have had issues running the old .29 hydra kernels with 2.2 roms. Or was this the new .32 kernels you flashed?
If you did not create a nandroid backup I would recommend flashing the leaked OTA from 8/1 located here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742242, this is a leak of what will be close to the stock 2.2 htc will release in the near future. Remember to wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe dalvik cache(located in "advanced" of recovery.) As soon as you flash that and can verify it is working create a nandroid backup of it before you add any apps, I would recommend signing into your gmail, testing camera and camcorder, make a call, sending and receiving both an sms and mms, 3g data check, and then creating the nandroid when you see those are working. After you create that nandroid then start installing apps. Hopefully this can help you out a little bit. If you have any questions, you can pm me and i'll do my best to try and help you out more.

jdkoreclipse said:
Indeed that does seem horriffic. I think he restored system apps from ti backup tho. Ive never saw anything like this that wasnt ti backup related.
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I didn't see you response until after I posted and you are most likely correct. I remember now, when i tried to restore system apps when i had a droid eris, that was not a fun day. Hopefully it's an easy fix and a learning experience, easiest way to learn is to make a mistake. Even though my answer is most likely not the solution to his problem, IMHO it's essential to always keep a nandroid of stock on your sdcard at all times, just in case.

Wow I see alot of info and I'm going to work with some of it but let me add this before I start dinking around today.
Right after I posted last night, I sat on the edge of my bed and had a thought. I had made a nandroid backup when I had almost every app back on my phone. The only ones I ones I didn't have when I got stuck were, Shoot me, Titanium backup, Adfree Android, and Tasker. Tasker being the only one I had before root. The others I picked up after.
SO! I told the phone to use the backup I had and I passed out to sleep.
I'm up now lol and thankfully I'm a stay at home mom so I can mess with this.
The backup made it a working phone again! Which is good. And this morning I had a second thought. When I opened Titanium backup last night, I got a message at the bottom of my screen that said Titanium had set itself up right... but it wouldn't go away. It kept looping itself. I thought it was just a fluke. Oh god... and NOW to think about it, that's WHY I rebooted in the first place. BECAUSE in the midst of it being weird, I tried to do a backup OMG. I wonder...
My Software says
Baseband 2.05.00.06.11
Kernel has a 32 in it

Alright I'm doing this nice and slow making backups along the way.
The only quirky thing that has happened is Titanium backup started spamming me again that it had been given superuser permissions so once again I had to reboot but this time it came up. Slow.... but it came up.
I guess what I"m trying to say is that I don't have a clue now what caused it.
OH! And my kernel is a 32 that came with the rom? The UV one I forgot to put on lol. It's on my SD card but I hadn't installed it. That one is a 29.
I just found a post on Android Forums where 2 people has this happen to them last night as well on Incredibles. They were without root.

If they were without root it could be a phone defect, I was going to recommend selecting fix permissions from rom manager.
EDIT: If ur running froyo try to only use .32 kernels. New kernels r up on Hydra website that are .32 check those out
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Cm7 is garbage

Swype installer installs swype but the swype feature does not work.
My 3rd flash of it to see if it gets any better btw.
All my gameloft games will not install through either titanium or my download list on their site because of bookmarks not matching up.
I get constant google framework FC's after cm7 "settles in" for a few hours.
I cant get into rom manager without FC's.
I am not a noob. This is my 3rd time flashing it on a t959. I never had a single problem on my g1 or original mytouch.
Im willing to sack my gps to have 2.3 but wtf? Im flashing correctly, i know i am. I let her sit for a bit, reboot a few times to clean everything up. Go to the market, let it do its thing installing everything. Wait. Reboot. Titanium backup, restore missing apps with data, ALWAYS GET PROBLEMS PARSING PACKAGE for gameloft and others [pisses me off so ****ing much, i cussed, deal with it]. wait, reboot, setup widgets and other settings, and reboot one more time until i finally not enjoy gb because of all the aforementioned bugs. Tell me im not the only one who is raging hard that cm7 performs like garbage, i cant be the only one.
Inb4: condescending responses, if u cant help or contribute positively then do not post. This is to help me and anyone else in my boat with their cm7 experience.
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I dont know why ur having so many probs! i just flash back to stock odin 2.1 to get rid of any ghosts of roms from past and root it then install rom manager premium and download cm nightlies and ur done. First install of cm7 i always do wipe data but after that i dont and i havent had one problem yet and ive been doing nightlies since #4. So just because ur having probs no reason to call it garbage! Plus with all the work they put into i wouldnt appreciate someone calling all my hard work trash!
questions:::
are u part of swype beta? if ur not it wont work!
"Titanium backup, restore missing apps with data, ALWAYS GET PROBLEMS PARSING PACKAGE"---- THEY TOLD u not to restore apps with data as it may mess with things on this.
have u gone into sgs tools and clicked on market fix to fix any fcs on market like ur gameloft?
Do u click all three when they ask u if u want do wipe data and wipe dalvik and backup rom? on ur first cm 7 install u should click on all 3 to be safe of all probs.

Sorry for the garbage title. I was angry when i started the thread.
I am part of the swype beta.
I did every step incling the wipes. Everytime i get the same issues stated in my OP. i am missing something. I just dont know what it is.
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I'm also having troubles with cm nit recognizing my internal memory....

what do you mean swype feature does not work? you have the swype keyboard enabled, but when you trace a word the keyboard boarders flash blue and type nothing? you can't even get to the swype keyboard? you have errors on install?
do you have the newest installer (they auto update now, but that is a relatively new feature).
also, which cm nightly are you flashing?

Swype is working great for me.
It didn't when I restored it via TB. When I installed via the beta installer, it worked perfectly.

You are doing something wrong.
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my swype works perfect on cm7.

T R O L L !
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I was under the impression that you are supposed to restore apps WITHOUT data via titanium. I could be wrong but that is what I have done, and I have had no trouble with my apps.

wipe/format boot, system, data, cache. Install the rom, wipe dalvik, factory reset then turn on your phone, let the phone set for 5 minutes then reboot into recovery (NOT THROUGH ADB). Then install Gapps and let the phone settle and then you should be good. When install things via tit-b do not restore system apps. For some applications if you are getting f/c's uninstall them, fix perms on the rom via Rom Manager then reboot. After restore the apps getting f/cs but only the app not the data (tough loss). You should be good.

ipetloudog said:
Swype installer installs swype but the swype feature does not work.
My 3rd flash of it to see if it gets any better btw.
All my gameloft games will not install through either titanium or my download list on their site because of bookmarks not matching up.
I get constant google framework FC's after cm7 "settles in" for a few hours.
I cant get into rom manager without FC's.
I am not a noob. This is my 3rd time flashing it on a t959. I never had a single problem on my g1 or original mytouch.
Im willing to sack my gps to have 2.3 but wtf? Im flashing correctly, i know i am. I let her sit for a bit, reboot a few times to clean everything up. Go to the market, let it do its thing installing everything. Wait. Reboot. Titanium backup, restore missing apps with data, ALWAYS GET PROBLEMS PARSING PACKAGE for gameloft and others [pisses me off so ****ing much, i cussed, deal with it]. wait, reboot, setup widgets and other settings, and reboot one more time until i finally not enjoy gb because of all the aforementioned bugs. Tell me im not the only one who is raging hard that cm7 performs like garbage, i cant be the only one.
Inb4: condescending responses, if u cant help or contribute positively then do not post. This is to help me and anyone else in my boat with their cm7 experience.
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Then don't use it. Jesus Christ.
I had many of the same issues you are having. Finally said "screw it" and went back to a 2.2.1 ROM and I'm feeling happy bout it. I miss the gtalk FFC integration, but otherwise not missing CM7. Frankly I've had issues with CM7 on my G1, my Hero and now the Vibrant. It's just never been reliable.
But that doesn't mean you need to start a *****-fest thread about it. Cmon now.....

alexm557 said:
I was under the impression that you are supposed to restore apps WITHOUT data via titanium. I could be wrong but that is what I have done, and I have had no trouble with my apps.
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If the apps were backed up under 2.2 and you are restoring them to 2.3 then that is your problem. Don't ask me why but I had to download all my apps again because none of the backups I made under 2.2 would work under 2.3. Try downloading the apps from the market instead of using Titanium. Keep in mind this ROM is still in the very early stages but other than GPS and the call mute/unmute thingy it runs flawless for me so I am inclined to believe you may be doing something wrong and I suspect Titanium might be to blame.

Thread should be called - USER ERROR leads to garbage
I have been using CM7 for a while now and haven't experienced any of the noob issues you have mentioned. I'm not calling you a noob because of your lack of execution. I'm calling you a noob because you pulled a noob move and basically said that a rom that is marked experimental, is causing you grief and furthermore it sucks. CM7 happens to be a fast and an extremely stable rom if you know what you're doing. It sounds to me like you aren't using TB the right way or something. It's guys like you that make what few devs we have left want to leave.

The first time I tried cm7 I fell in love!!! I had never look back at any other rom. I still don't understand why people are still making and porting 221 roms when cm7 is almost perfect and
Honeycomb!!! Is out already. I just don't get it.

When there is SO much #Fail in a thread, XDA cries.

Wow you have to be joking, you have errors caused by your stupidity, and you have the audacity to call cm7 garbage? If it wasn't for them, we wouldn't even be here on Gingerbread. Don't be an idiot, think before you post.

a g1 runs 2.1 really crappy concidering it is using a modified nexus kernel, unless there is source for the phone for the version you are on it will never be 100 percent perfect

issues? well...
ipetloudog said:
Sorry for the garbage title. I was angry when i started the thread.
I am part of the swype beta.
I did every step incling the wipes. Everytime i get the same issues stated in my OP. i am missing something. I just dont know what it is.
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there's still no excuse. i get pissy too but you dont see my ass coming on the boards and bashing. keep that crap to yourself cause no one on here wants to hear it. your issues are simple enough. either you didnt wipe your device while installing or you did something that only a n00b would do.
i have problems too but known problems such as GPS. you dont hear me whining about it like a little *****.

CM7 rocks!!
I found that build #20 messed up all of my user data/apps and had to start fresh (ODIN, etc). Of course a Nandroid back-up would have probably solved my app issues so next time try backing up before attempting anything crazy . Even TB didn't work when trying to reinstall (there was an update to TB that may have solved my problems I never tried it). Learning everyday about my phone and loving CM7 every step of the way! Good luck.
By the way I too am a SWYPE beta user; just had to re-initialize the installer with their emails and I was good to go.

Is there a way to access Apps on a soft-bricked phone?

I'm stuck at the boot-screen of Deck's 1.2 rom, however, I can still access HBOOT and Clockwork Mod Recovery.
I don't see an explicit option, but is there a way I could access Apps or other data to save as a back-up?
I foolishly deleted my rom back-up, and last time I used Titanium Backup was a few weeks ago, so it's not a good option. Thanks!

Android 17 said:
I'm stuck at the boot-screen of Deck's 1.2 rom, however, I can still access HBOOT and Clockwork Mod Recovery.
I don't see an explicit option, but is there a way I could access Apps or other data to save as a back-up?
I foolishly deleted my rom back-up, and last time I used Titanium Backup was a few weeks ago, so it's not a good option. Thanks!
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As long as the .zip for the ROM doesn't wipe /data, you could reflash "Deck's 1.2 ROM hopefully fixing your issue and not losing your apps.

mattykinsx said:
As long as the .zip for the ROM doesn't wipe /data, you could reflash "Deck's 1.2 ROM hopefully fixing your issue and not losing your apps.
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I already tried wiping cache and dalvik, reflashing the rom, and I still get stuck in a boot-loop =/
Thanks for the suggestion though.

Android 17 said:
I already tried wiping cache and dalvik, reflashing the rom, and I still get stuck in a boot-loop =/
Thanks for the suggestion though.
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You could wipe /boot and /system as well and reflash and see if that fixes it.

mattykinsx said:
You could wipe /boot and /system as well and reflash and see if that fixes it.
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I just tried that and it didn't work either. This is maddening.
The last thing I remember doing was tinkering with the lockscreen settings in the advanced settings. I set up a rotary revamped lockscreen with Dolphin Browser HD as my custom application. I have Dolphin saved to SD too, but I don't see why such a small thing would cause constant bootloops.
It ran fine before 1.2 stable and messing with the lockscreen.

Android 17 said:
I just tried that and it didn't work either. This is maddening.
The last thing I remember doing was tinkering with the lockscreen settings in the advanced settings. I set up a rotary revamped lockscreen with Dolphin Browser HD as my custom application. I have Dolphin saved to SD too, but I don't see why such a small thing would cause constant bootloops.
It ran fine before 1.2 stable and messing with the lockscreen.
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I have titanium backup run every night along with my call log back up app and go sms to back up texts.
Prevents this kind of thing.
Nothing you've said you have done explains a boot loop.

mattykinsx said:
I have titanium backup run every night along with my call log back up app and go sms to back up texts.
Prevents this kind of thing.
Nothing you've said you have done explains a boot loop.
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That's a good idea. I usually just use Titanium backup when I'm doing a full wipe or flashing a ROM with significant updates, but since I'd been using Deck's for a while and having no issues whatsoever really and just updating incrementally, I didn't think to backup in a while.
I had actually backed-up the ROM prior to flashing 1.2 stable, but I needed to delete it to make room to back up the newer version, and I didn't think it'd be a big deal since it was stable for a few boots. I guess I got too comfortable.
This is ridiculous, I didn't make any changes to the ROM or flash any new radios or anything of the sort that should cause a bootloop.
I do also use the Theme Manager MattedBlues theme but I've been using that for over a week or so with no issues, so I doubt that's the cause.
Oh well, thanks for the ideas though.

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That's a good idea. I usually just use Titanium backup when I'm doing a full wipe or flashing a ROM with significant updates, but since I'd been using Deck's for a while and having no issues whatsoever really and just updating incrementally, I didn't think to backup in a while.
I had actually backed-up the ROM prior to flashing 1.2 stable, but I needed to delete it to make room to back up the newer version, and I didn't think it'd be a big deal since it was stable for a few boots. I guess I got too comfortable.
This is ridiculous, I didn't make any changes to the ROM or flash any new radios or anything of the sort that should cause a bootloop.
I do also use the Theme Manager MattedBlues theme but I've been using that for over a week or so with no issues, so I doubt that's the cause.
Oh well, thanks for the ideas though.
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Sorry I took my Xanax to sleep or else I'd likely be able to think of some kind of solution.
Hopefully someone else can help you out.

I think in CWM if you mount System&Data /apps you could utilize adb pull..... Also did you set up any custom partitions, a2sd, data2ext, ect... ?
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Actually thanks for the suggestions guys, I managed to dig up an older version of the rom saved on my downloads folder and flashed it and booted.
For some odd reason, an older release labeled as experimental works better than the 1.2 stable...
It's strange too because I looked around Deck's thread and no one else reported any problems similar to what I was having at all.
For all intents and purposes it appears to be very stable and functional for everyone BUT me
Thanks for the suggestions though. I guess I'll hold off on flashing any roms for a while or wait for a newer version and try flashing with a full wipe.

Cool glad you got her going.
Kaaameeehameeehaaaaaa!

3.5 sense problem

My G2 ive had for a while now. Bought on December 12th of 2010 off ebay brandnew. Ive flashed well over 50 different ROMs & have customized it in every possible way. I have the DZhboot. All ROMs ive flashed work perfectly but 3.5 sense ROMs. My phone for some reason dislikes them. The only one that seemed to work for me is hybrid bliss. All the others either stay on HTC screen for more than an hour or bootloop. Could anyone help me? (ive wiped data, cache,dalvik,battery,etc...)
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that sounds very weird i dont see any reason why the ROMs would not work on your G2 unless a corrupted download but since you say youve tried more than one i dont know, maybe if you try downloading and flashing them again

nonione said:
that sounds very weird i dont see any reason why the ROMs would not work on your G2 unless a corrupted download but since you say youve tried more than one i dont know, maybe if you try downloading and flashing them again
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already tried that. & downloaded them multiple times.. Im telling you my phone just doesnt like 3.5 for some odd reason

This is a link to the SuperWipeG2+ext4 that tsubus modified recently. I suggest you flash this. It will wipe all your partitions and format them into the Ext 4 format. Then flash the ROM that you want and if you use Titanium backup, be very careful not to restore any system apps, system data, or app data. If you want to restore apps (i.e. only those from the market) be sure you restore only the apps but not app data.
Hope this helps!

EdKeys said:
This is a link to the SuperWipeG2+ext4 that tsubus modified recently. I suggest you flash this. It will wipe all your partitions and format them into the Ext 4 format. Then flash the ROM that you want and if you use Titanium backup, be very careful not to restore any system apps, system data, or app data. If you want to restore apps (i.e. only those from the market) be sure you restore only the apps but not app data.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks ill try that & see how it goes. atm my phone is not turing on haha....

Did you try the latest BlissSense 1.6 and 2.0? IMHO, they are awesome!

[Q] HBO GO nogo on Gingerbread

Ever since flashing the Mostly Stock pre-rooted ROM HBO GO will force close every single time as the app's video player starts up after the little logo animation/music. I can sign in successfully and browse the content/add to playlist but that's it. I tried to restore the app and login first using MyBackupRoot but that didn't work (gave me an error about failing to initialize the player) so I tried it from scratch, even clearing the data from the app several times. Has anyone gotten it to work right and could anyone suggest something else to try?

Works fine for me on Legendary 2.1.
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DroidApprentice said:
Ever since flashing the Mostly Stock pre-rooted ROM HBO GO will force close every single time as the app's video player starts up after the little logo animation/music. I can sign in successfully and browse the content/add to playlist but that's it. I tried to restore the app and login first using MyBackupRoot but that didn't work (gave me an error about failing to initialize the player) so I tried it from scratch, even clearing the data from the app several times. Has anyone gotten it to work right and could anyone suggest something else to try?
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What kernel are you running? I'm running the "MostlyStock Rebuild" by xBTx and my HBO Go failed on Nubernel and Earthbound v1 kernels. Running Earthbound's v2 and above, as well as bbelos' kernels gave me my HBO Go back.

Works fine on Shadowkernel.

Works on cm7...
Sent from my CM7 Kanged, Totally Epic 4g...Booya!

Used to happen to me, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
In all seriousness though, I flashed a new rom, clean gb, and the problem stopped.
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signal34 said:
What kernel are you running? I'm running the "MostlyStock Rebuild" by xBTx and my HBO Go failed on Nubernel and Earthbound v1 kernels. Running Earthbound's v2 and above, as well as bbelos' kernels gave me my HBO Go back.
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I suspected the kernel might be the culprit (Nubernel .1). OK, next question:
As long as cache and Dalvik are wiped, is a kernel flash through CWM usually safe and not requiring of a total reinstall of everything?

DroidApprentice said:
I suspected the kernel might be the culprit (Nubernel .1). OK, next question:
As long as cache and Dalvik are wiped, is a kernel flash through CWM usually safe and not requiring of a total reinstall of everything?
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I've never had a problem. Although too much flashing might leave residuals of previous kernel info (according to some conversations in Earthbound's thread), so he suggests a full Odin and reinstall of apps (not via Recovery but Titanium) just to make sure.

DroidApprentice said:
I suspected the kernel might be the culprit (Nubernel .1). OK, next question:
As long as cache and Dalvik are wiped, is a kernel flash through CWM usually safe and not requiring of a total reinstall of everything?
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I flash kernels all the time, without even wiping anything.

kennyglass123 said:
I flash kernels all the time, without even wiping anything.
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Ha. I'm not quite that confident. And a full nandroid backup, would it preserve the former kernel as well?

DroidApprentice said:
Ha. I'm not quite that confident. And a full nandroid backup, would it preserve the former kernel as well?
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Yes. Use CWM 5.0.2.7. This preserves kernel. I do backup weekly so that gives me extra confidence to just flash.

Now running Mostly Stock Rebuild with Shadow Kernel 1.0.2. This issue is fixed and overall so far so good. Now to see how it behaves over time.