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Trying to root - problems [SOLVED]

Hey guys.
I've been attempting this all morning and so far I've had no luck. I have a VodafoneAU Legend which I updated to the official 2.2 yesterday. But now I want to try root.
I've been trying to follow the HBOOT 1.01 guide but there's a few problems. First, I cannot connect to the phone with adb unless it's in htc sync mode. No other mode will work. So when it's time to copy testimage.zip to the card I have to change from sync mode to disk mode, whereby adb loses it's connection. What do I do about this? Is it a driver problem (in Win7 here) or something else?
Thanks,
Dave.

Ok, the first problem were drivers.
Now I can't finish the second guide. When I try using clockwork to install the firmware.zip, the phone just boots to the red triangle. What do I have to do?
Dave.

So I pressed the up button/power combo at the red triangle and get the Android system recovery. Selecting "apply update.zip" says it can't verify. What do I do? Is this guide for my phone or do I need to follow something else?

I don't understand this guys. Anyone help? I'm thinking since this is a step to root the phone, I'm not actually rooted yet so I can't use the clockworkmod? Then what is the guide for? The guides at unlockr don't mention what firmware/hboot they work for so I'm not keen to try them yet.

Read the guide on fake flash. You need the recovery file named "update.zip" in the root of your sd to proceed..
Sent from my Legend using XDA App

whitetigerdk said:
Read the guide on fake flash. You need the recovery file named "update.zip" in the root of your sd to proceed..
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
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But isn't that what Rom Manager does? Download the update.zip then run it? Man this is getting even harder to understand.
Edit: And this is left out of the HBOOT 1.01 guide because.....????? When I work this out I'll write a PROPPER guide, lol.

Just checked and update.zip is on the card.
So which part of the guide am I getting wrong?

Decided to reinstall phone with the official froyo release and am now ready to try this again. Is there anyone that will walk me through the process? I will write a complete guide if the "gotchas" are still there.

i feel for you ... hope you get it fixed... thats one of the reason i havent dared messing with the phone because i've seen a few post like yours where something didnt go quite as described... for whatever reason... and im sure the answer is out there but just not within the guide instructions... i guess there is no way to gather all gotchas because there are so many environment variables...
good luck
and please share your technique

Just saw gobczak's thread in the developer forum having similar troubles with Vodafone UK phone, getting the red triangle at reboot. I'll keep an eye on his thread and see how he goes with it.

Did you run the stage1 and stage2 bats while in recovery?

dezzadk said:
Did you run the stage1 and stage2 bats while in recovery?
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No because the guide didn't say to.
The thing is it seems I'm only stuck on the part where the firmware.zip file has to be flashed. The guide says to use clockworkmod for this. But when I try installing the clockworkmod recovery it gives some file verification error. Isn't there ways to do this via the pc, either through those batch files, adb etc? Or will that fake-flash update.zip file work?

jabbado said:
No because the guide didn't say to.
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As I just posted on the other forum, I think you need to skip that step in guide 2 and go straight onto guide 3 after you have flashed the LEGEIMG.zip, rebooted, and then removed LEGEIMG.zip from the SD card.

Guys I've got to the point of downgrading to 1.31. But when I run the first batch file it just hangs at the "Writing zip" part, with the htc logo on the screen. Is there any way to fix this?

Can someone please explain this part of the guide:
Phone will reboot and find LEGEIMG.zip on your sdcard, copy it into RAM and check it. If you get CID error at this point, then you don't have goldcard.
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Ok, so I don't get an error. I get nothing. The phone just boots to the fastboot screen. If I press the power button it goes to the hboot screen and I can see the messages of loading LEGEIMG.zip. But the guide doesn't say to press anything.
So should I or shouldn't I press the power button? Also, if I try making the goldcard again, at which point in the guide do I start from again? The entire process or just copying LEGEIMG.zip to card then rebooting phone? I mean, will all the other things like flashing misc1-2.img still be there?

Guys I finally got this working.
The first problem was with the goldcards. For whatever reason formatting them with the win7 format tool just wouldn't work. I had to use the command-line format tool, setting the block size etc manually.
The second problem was the unnecessary steps in the guide. A few people helped me out with this (namely blackbart at the Aus Whirlpool forum), but basically in the second step you can stop after flashing the LEGEIMG.zip. The updating froyo part isn't needed - for my phone anyway.
Then when running the batch files in the third part, for whatever reason the first batch would keep hanging at 'writing zip...' and I needed to remove the battery to unfreeze the phone. flannigan, also from the Aus Whirlpool forums suggested to just go on to the second batch file. This worked!
So my Legend is now finally a true Legend
Anyway, thanks for the help everyone - couldn't have done this by myself.
Dave

Great news, I think we need a new guide focused on rooting for HBOOT 1.01 / Stock Froyo to clear up the inconsistencies in the existing one. It's a minefield for a noob (or a rite of passage!), a revised guide will certainly save a lot of time and frustration for those taking this road in the future.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

EpicSauce said:
Great news, I think we need a new guide focused on rooting for HBOOT 1.01 to clear up the inconsistencies in the existing one. It's a minefield for a noob (or a rite of passage!), a revised guide will certainly save a lot of time and frustration for those taking this road in the future.
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I'll write one if ya's want. I wanted to include little tidbits like downloading the apps required (visionary, rom manager etc) from the market then backing them up to the card with Astro so if it goes all wrong and you have to start again, you can just install them all from the card Also on using adb to push the files (roms, img's etc) when the guides say "copy this blah blah". Much quicker than changing to disk mode and back. Sound good?

Sounds good! Happy to help and add my 20c worth along the way. The existing guide has got the meaty bits, a new guide would cull the stuff not relevant, help fill in the gaps and alert to the pitfalls we've fallen into.

jabbado said:
I'll write one if ya's want. I wanted to include little tidbits like downloading the apps required (visionary, rom manager etc) from the market then backing them up to the card with Astro so if it goes all wrong and you have to start again, you can just install them all from the card Also on using adb to push the files (roms, img's etc) when the guides say "copy this blah blah". Much quicker than changing to disk mode and back. Sound good?
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I agree... i've done my reading since june of last year but then didnt check for another 4 months... and so many how to's pop up with various ways of doing it depeding on the situation... a lot of those howtos were consolidated howtos which sometimes make intermediate steps unenecessary (may be in some cases causes more head aches since it didnt take into considerations on newer version of hboots...etc)... an updated how to will be much appreciated...
And you're right the most important pre requirement is to have a safety net ... so starting with how to create a back up in case you screw it up is a must!
but im glad it worked out for you!

[GUIDE] Simplest way to root your desire z

First downgrade your firmware version to 1.34.405.5 or below, you can do this by copying 1.34.405.5_PC10IMG.zip which you can download from here and rename it to "PC10IMG.zip".
Then boot into bootloader, you can do this through adb by typing "adb reboot bootloader" or you can just power off your phone, pull out your battery and then restarting it with both power button and volume down button pressed together.
Make sure you have enabled USB debugging in your phone.
It will automatically detect the image and will install it on your phone.
Now fill in your information and let your phone get started for the first time.
Now follow this guide:
Your phone is rooted by now.
Download ROM manager and flash clockworkmod recovery.
Now your are good to go.
Hit the thanks button if you find my post useful.

You can download the android sdk and g2_root from the following links.
Android sdk is needed for adb.
Android SDK:
- http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
G2 Root (Pack
- http://www.mediafire.com/?jmdqt1z03msaybl
Remember to turn off your pc antivirus before doing this because it may detect rage as a virus and won't allow you to run it.

This guide is completely unneccessary, and also lacking.
You cannot just do a straight downgrade to 1.34, you need to temp-root and modify your misc partition first.
Also, if you're gonna bother using adb a little, you may as well run everything in cmd/terminal, as you can copy/paste instead of having to type the commands onto the phone.
-Nipqer

Nipqer said:
This guide is completely unneccessary, and also lacking.
You cannot just do a straight downgrade to 1.34, you need to temp-root and modify your misc partition first.
Also, if you're gonna bother using adb a little, you may as well run everything in cmd/terminal, as you can copy/paste instead of having to type the commands onto the phone.
-Nipqer
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Someone asked for a tutorial for noobs who just want to get their phone rooted without bothering about anything. That's why I posted it.
And the above mentioned tutorial is 100% working as far I have tested it.

ajhavery said:
Someone asked for a tutorial for noobs who just want to get their phone rooted without bothering about anything. That's why I posted it.
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You took somebody else's YouTube video, and just added a couple lines of text, that are too vague, and would completely confuse a noob. I don't see how this in any way is better than:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD

[Q] Xoom files doesnt change

Hello guys,
i got a serious and frustrating problem here.
A few days ago my xoom was stuck on the M screen, so I used a thread in the forum and recovered it.
It solved myh problem back then, but since I had 3.2 before this and the solution injected me with Android 3.01 my problems started to show themselves.
the first one is that
<b> Through Fastboot, RecoveryMod, ADB </b> and any other way you can Imagine to install a new ROM or even remove or create a file,
All of them show success message but when I check them out I see no changes.
i tried fastboot and Recovery to install nearly every ROM,Recovery and bootimage in this site but so far it was wild goose chase.
so I want to ask if I'm doing anything wrong or if you need any more information here, but please help me with this

wow I cant believe it, All these masterminds here and no answer to my distress signal??
Guys I am so in trouble and this is the only place I hoped to get answered.
I can provide you with more info if you need, but please dont say I'm on my own here.
all these years this forum was the last hope for me.
i know I'll get my answer here one day

You are not being very clear about what you have done,, but I'm assuming that you reinstalled the stock image that got you back to HC 3.01. Can you see if you are able to get OTA updates to get you back to at least 3.1, or 3.2 if possible?

If that's my problem forgive me please, Ive written that post in 3:00AM
for the sake of clearity I should add some info:
1. I even tried stock ROMs but you see I cant even flash them (Not from Recovery nor Fastboot) the steps seem successful : it opens the package,it installs them and it says everything was a success. But when I restart the device I see nothing has changed.
2. OTA updates are the same, they keep downloading and when the sysem reboots to recovery to install them it cant find them.
3. You dont believe it if I say even files and programs that I remove from device by my hand(Android OS) are back after the first restart.
And you see it's dark magic! everything from a file to a partition are back by one reboot. I dont know what should I call it but I havent seen anything like it on the whole Internet.
So seems like I should make a competition for the xda experts here
Can you publish it so all of them can see it?

Mohfath said:
If that's my problem forgive me please, Ive written that post in 3:00AM
for the sake of clearity I should add some info:
1. I even tried stock ROMs but you see I cant even flash them (Not from Recovery nor Fastboot) the steps seem successful : it opens the package,it installs them and it says everything was a success. But when I restart the device I see nothing has changed.
2. OTA updates are the same, they keep downloading and when the sysem reboots to recovery to install them it cant find them.
3. You dont believe it if I say even files and programs that I remove from device by my hand(Android OS) are back after the first restart.
And you see it's dark magic! everything from a file to a partition are back by one reboot. I dont know what should I call it but I havent seen anything like it on the whole Internet.
So seems like I should make a competition for the xda experts here
Can you publish it so all of them can see it?
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Actually, I have seen someone with the same problem here on this forum, but I can't recall exactly what the solution was.
Can you describe, step by step what you are doing, what cable you are connecting to your pc with, etc?

okantomi said:
Actually, I have seen someone with the same problem here on this forum, but I can't recall exactly what the solution was.
Can you describe, step by step what you are doing, what cable you are connecting to your pc with, etc?
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That would be relief to know this could be solvable.
I will look more too.
As for your post I must say:
1. I plug the Xoom to the PC using the included cable
2. I start the xoom and start fastboot
3. on the PC system has the drivers and completely knows it
4. I start with SDK:
I. Fastboot oem unlock (Completing onscreen instructions and reboot device)
II. Fastboot mode again I use Fastboot flash boot boot.img
III. Continuing with Recovery,System
IV. Rebooting the device anything is the same.
My ROM is unchanged by the process and keeeeeeeeps giving the damn error of System process error please submit
5. And with ClockworkrecoveryMod I have the stock ROM on my sd card.
I. I choose install zip from sd card.
II.Choose the correct zip file and start flashing.
III. Choosing Wipe Data/Factory reset will take the device into a complete hang. unless I first use the mount page to mount the System/Data
IV. I reboot the device and ..... you know nothing changed.
so thats my story.
Still hope to find something about it.

Thanks...that was helpful. But now I want to know the following:
Were you rooted before the trouble started?
What did you do to recover?
If rooted, what version of CWM recovery did you have installed? Did you do a nanadroid backup? (I guess the answer is no, because you could have just restored with that).
What recovery are you accessing when trying to flash a zip file?
If you can answer these questions I will continue to wrack my brain trying to recall where I saw that thread.
Edit: please check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370312
Some of what I said to him may help you .

okantomi said:
Were you rooted before the trouble started?
What did you do to recover?
If rooted, what version of CWM recovery did you have installed? Did you do a nanadroid backup? (I guess the answer is no, because you could have just restored with that).
What recovery are you accessing when trying to flash a zip file?
If you can answer these questions I will continue to wrack my brain trying to recall where I saw that thread.
Edit: please check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370312
Some of what I said to him may help you .
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Being rooted? -> Yes, The world is more beautiful with root!
to recover -> I followed this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097997 Shame it was Android 3.0
I use ClockworkRecovery 3.0.0.28 and I cant upgrade it cause of ... you know
And for your help I must say you are definitely the most caring person I know...
I'm off to check the provided link now

I was thinking of something that might be a reason.
I have this tiny problem:
When I go to CWM and choose Erase userData/Factory Reset Device Hangs
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I was thinking of may be the userdata partition is corrupted and I gotta find a way to flash it completely.
Somehow I used Fastboot utility to do this and after saying Success, Nothing changed again.
Do you know any other way to physically do this job?

[Q] First Post!...with a ton of help needed.

HellllOOooOoOo!!
Ok, here goes. First off, I searched. A lot. There is so much conflicting information and opinions out there. I hate to annoy you pros with noob-ness but I have to. Sorry!
Here is the quick version:
Friend gave me an Atrix 4G. He is big on experimenting, rooting, custom ROMs and all that. I am not. At all. I want to use it on t-mobile. I DO get a signal and can text. MMS doesn't work and motoblur wont let me set up an account. This results in no access to email other then Gmail. Basically, I want to bring the phone back to its original (or close as possible) state. Hopefully, that will solve some of my issues.
-Android Version
2.3.4
-Unlocked
-Rooted
-Build Number
olympus_hktw-userdebug 2.3.4 4.5.2A-5_OLH-3110614 test-keys
-Clockwork recovery mod installed (if that matters)
I am not THAT tech savvy but can follow instructions well. I've already been messing around but cant seem to get RSD Lite to actually flash properly. I dont care for customs ROMS, hacking and tinkering. I just want this phone to work as well as possible.
Can anyone give me some personal assistance? Please? Step by step would be great. I'll be refreshing this page often in hopes of responses.

Vul said:
HellllOOooOoOo!!
Ok, here goes. First off, I searched. A lot. There is so much conflicting information and opinions out there. I hate to annoy you pros with noob-ness but I have to. Sorry!
Here is the quick version:
Friend gave me an Atrix 4G. He is big on experimenting, rooting, custom ROMs and all that. I am not. At all. I want to use it on t-mobile. I DO get a signal and can text. MMS doesn't work and motoblur wont let me set up an account. This results in no access to email other then Gmail. Basically, I want to bring the phone back to its original (or close as possible) state. Hopefully, that will solve some of my issues.
-Android Version
2.3.4
-Unlocked
-Rooted
-Build Number
olympus_hktw-userdebug 2.3.4 4.5.2A-5_OLH-3110614 test-keys
-Clockwork recovery mod installed (if that matters)
I am not THAT tech savvy but can follow instructions well. I've already been messing around but cant seem to get RSD Lite to actually flash properly. I dont care for customs ROMS, hacking and tinkering. I just want this phone to work as well as possible.
Can anyone give me some personal assistance? Please? Step by step would be great. I'll be refreshing this page often in hopes of responses.
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It sounds like you need to set up a proper T-Mobile APN. (you have a T-Mobile SIM card currently installed?)
If you can get on Wifi, try to go the the Play store and download Tweakker or other APN utilities that enter the APN for your based on your carrier.

co.ag.2005 said:
It sounds like you need to set up a proper T-Mobile APN. (you have a T-Mobile SIM card currently installed?)
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Yes. I have a t-mobile SIM card installed. My concern is what the previous owner may have done and whatever ROM is loaded on this phone. Can I somehow bring it back to stock or get a super stable, close to stock as possible ROM first and then start addressing the quirks I have?

Is this an AT&T branded phone? I'm not sure if getting back to stock is necessary, and if you do get back to stock, you might be SIM locked to AT&T (I could be wrong however). If you want to flash a fresh, stock ROM but still be rooted, SIM unlocked, etc., find a 2.3.6 Fruitcake in this forum or try NottachTrix 4G ROM.
however, I'd wait till others weighed in before doing anything. Honestly, I'd try getting your APN (download Tweakker app and walk through the steps) going now and if that solves your issue, your ROM might be working fine for you... my $0.02
oh, and welcome to XDA!

Vul said:
Yes. I have a t-mobile SIM card installed. My concern is what the previous owner may have done and whatever ROM is loaded on this phone. Can I somehow bring it back to stock or get a super stable, close to stock as possible ROM first and then start addressing the quirks I have?
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1. Download the fruitcake .zip you want (webtop also, if you want it)
2. Do a full wipe with fastboot (search if you're unsure how to)
3. Boot into recovery and flash the .zip you downloaded from step 1
4. Reboot and you're done
This will put you back to stock. I can't remember if fruitcakes are pre-rooted, but if not you can easily root again.

Alright, now we're getting somewhere.
co.ag
The phone itself says "unlocked" upon startup. I got the network unlock code direct from AT&T because at first the phone wouldn't even recognize my t-mo SIM. Phone is now network unlocked.
Ghost
gonna search now for fruitcake and see what thats all about. Do I need webtop?
Then going to get fastboot. Guess I dont need RSD Lite anymore?
Im doing this because I dont know what the previous owner has done and would like a clean slate. Kind of like changing the oil on a used car you buy, even if the PO says it was done.

Ok so,
I found fastboot with recovery tool and the .exe files within the ZIP dont do anything.
The fruitcake ZIP file I downloaded according to your link, I'm not sure what to do with that. lol
Help?
**am I supposed to be saving these files to the phone itself? If so, where? Internal storage? SD card?

Vul said:
Alright, now we're getting somewhere.
co.ag
The phone itself says "unlocked" upon startup. I got the network unlock code direct from AT&T because at first the phone wouldn't even recognize my t-mo SIM. Phone is now network unlocked.
Ghost
gonna search now for fruitcake and see what thats all about. Do I need webtop?
Then going to get fastboot. Guess I dont need RSD Lite anymore?
Im doing this because I dont know what the previous owner has done and would like a clean slate. Kind of like changing the oil on a used car you buy, even if the PO says it was done.
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that "unlocked" bit on start up means your bootloader is unlocked, doesn't have anything to do with the SIM card. All this means is that you can flash a ROM since the phone is "unlocked"
Vul said:
Ok so,
I found fastboot with recovery tool and the .exe files within the ZIP dont do anything.
The fruitcake ZIP file I downloaded according to your link, I'm not sure what to do with that. lol
Help?
**am I supposed to be saving these files to the phone itself? If so, where? Internal storage? SD card?
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the fruitcake .zip goes on your internal sdcard. BUT, before you start doing anything, please go through the stickied threads in this section and read up on how to flash ROMs to your phone. This will include how to wipe your phone using the fastboot commands and how to flash the fruitcake .zip.
start here, read this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
then follow guides to
"HOW TO INSTALL FRUITCAKES ON 2.3.4 (GREAT SBF/RSD ALTERNATIVE!!!)"
and
"ROMs & Kernels:
FYI:
Before installing any ROM or Kernel I suggest you do the following to help prevent error, boot-loops, etc. Also, it's a good idea to flash a new ROM or Kernel on a fully charged device:
1) Download which ever ROM or Kernel you plan on flashing and have the .zip on your device ready to flash.
2) Backup your apps (not system data), contacts, etc. Also consider making a CWM backup of your device, just in case.
3) Boot into CWM Recovery
4) Wipe Dalvik Cache (under advanced in CWM)
5) Wipe Cache Partition
6) Wipe data/factory reset
6a) If you're using ROM Manager/CWM you will need to reboot the device after step 5, and upon reboot enter fastboot mode and enter the command: "fastboot -w" or "moto-fastboot -w" if you prefer using moto-fastboot. Then type "fastboot reboot" and upon reboot make sure to enter Android Recovery again, so that you can flash the ROM/Kernel.
7) Install .zip from SD Card (choose the .zip you wish to install)
8) If you installing a radio, theme, kernel, etc. on top of a ROM, I would suggest redoing the whole wipe process again between flashes.
9) Reboot the Device
- If you get a boot loop, try entering Android recovery and re-wiping the chace and data, and perhaps try reflashing the ROM/Kernel. Or if you made a CWM backup, you can always restore that."

Vul said:
Ok so,
I found fastboot with recovery tool and the .exe files within the ZIP dont do anything.
The fruitcake ZIP file I downloaded according to your link, I'm not sure what to do with that. lol
Help?
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Ok, sorry I wasn't that detailed in my other post and assumed you were on your phone (my bad). First things first, read the N00b guide.
1. Anytime you download CWM .zips, put them on the root of your phone's sdcard. You'll need them there in order access them from recovery. ( note: sdcard=internal sd card & sdcard-ext=external sd card for blur ROMS )
2. Fastboot commands are executed from the command line. Open a command prompt and navigate to the directory containing fastboot.exe in order to use it. The Noob guide should have links to all the fastboot commands you'll need.
3. With the Atrix's unlocked BL, holding Volume Down when turning the phone on will bring up a series of bootmodes to choose from. This is how you get into fastboot, recovery, RSD, etc. Navigate through the choices with Volume Down. Select one by pressing Volume Up. You should only ever really need Fastboot and Android Recovery.
4. CWM is used to flash .zips (ROMS, kernels, apps) while in recovery mode. Use romracer's to make things easier on yourself later.
Read through the N00b guide and this will all make perfect sense.

I have no idea what Im doing. I think because this phone has been tampered with so much already, it's making it extra tough to work with.
I managed to install CM7. Its the only ZIP file that actually seemed to take. I still dont understand fastboot , in the sense that I don;t know when Im supposed to see a command prompt. Also, now, CM7 is asking me to upgrade to premium and I have to pay for it. There doesnt seem to be a free way of installing it so that I can sync all my info through my google account. Ugh. Im not cut out for this but Ive been screwing with this literally since 730 this morning.
**CM7 with google apps packet installed. So far, so good. Im happy with this considering its pretty close to stock gingerbread, kinda like my G2. Now, Im hopefully done messing around. Would be nice if they release a solution for the fingerprint scanner or if I can get my gmail to auto sync but at least I can stop obsessing for the time being. Great help guys, thanks so much!!!!

[Q] Before I install Kit Kat I would like to root my phone

Hello
My phone tells me that it is ready to update to Kit Kat.
Before I install Kit Kat I would like to learn how to go back to Jelly Bean if things go t1ts-up.
So, I would like to learn how to root my phone?
I would also like to learn how to backup everything including the Jelly Bean operating system, and I would like to know how to revert my phone back to Jelly Bean?
Please forgive my ignorance, but this whole process genuinely scares me. I have only ever rooted my Samsung Ace phone once and the experience left a bitter taste in my mouth.
I did manage to root my phone. I also thought that I had created a backup but when I tested the backup I discovered that my phone got wiped and I ended up with a brick. I eventually found an official Samsung ROM but it wasn't the one I wanted and it caused a few problems, especially with the Bluetooth feature.
I hope you can understand or appreciate my apprehension with even contemplating such a task on my expensive Nexus 4.
Cheers muchly

the lemming said:
Hello
My phone tells me that it is ready to update to Kit Kat.
Before I install Kit Kat I would like to learn how to go back to Jelly Bean if things go t1ts-up.
So, I would like to learn how to root my phone?
I would also like to learn how to backup everything including the Jelly Bean operating system, and I would like to know how to revert my phone back to Jelly Bean?
Please forgive my ignorance, but this whole process genuinely scares me. I have only ever rooted my Samsung Ace phone once and the experience left a bitter taste in my mouth.
I did manage to root my phone. I also thought that I had created a backup but when I tested the backup I discovered that my phone got wiped and I ended up with a brick. I eventually found an official Samsung ROM but it wasn't the one I wanted and it caused a few problems, especially with the Bluetooth feature.
I hope you can understand or appreciate my apprehension with even contemplating such a task on my expensive Nexus 4.
Cheers muchly
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You might want to check out the Wugfresh's toolkit if you are not incline with technical stuff. The toolkit is in the Development section.

Hello
I have no idea what Wugfresh's tool-kit is.
Sorry

the lemming said:
Hello
I have no idea what Wugfresh's tool-kit is.
Sorry
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I would suggest that you study up and follow this guide here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
I was like you when I first got the nexus. Didn't know what to do and the steps seems to be so complicated. Hell..I even took couple of days to finally succeed in installing the drivers. And for me I think it is better to learn the basics of using adb before trying out the toolkits. If you start with toolkits and you will later on rely entirely on the toolkits. This is not good as some problems, the toolkits might not be able to solve it for you.
Btw, look into original android development for wug's toolkits. It is pinned there. Should be easy to find.
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You seem to be taking interest in Rooting and stuffs. I would suggest you to get handy with a few ADB and FASTBOOT commands and you won't need any toolkit ever in Life !!!
Its very very very easy in Nexus Devices.
Here is my attempt to make you learn :-
1. Say Bye Bye to your phone OS version.
2. Open Command Prompt or Terminal.(Assuming, you have SDK & Drivers installed)
Code:
adb devices
It shall return you the device id.
3. Reboot to BootLoader
Code:
adb reboot-bootloader
4. Check for your device's recognition in FastBoot Mode.
Code:
fastboot devices
5. I assume you have all the files(Factory Image tar.gz extracted to a folder)
just type :-
Code:
flash-all.bat
BOOM...
You are now on stock KitKat !
Now, To get a Custom Recovery (IMHO go with TWRP),
1. Download latest recovery from the official website.
2. Type when in FastBoot Mode.
Code:
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.4-mako.img
(Or whatever the name is)
3. Reboot your device.
Now, to get the ROOT ACCESS, after booting up the device,
1. Download the latest UPDATE-SuperSU zip from here.
2. Keep it somewhere in DEVICE STORAGE.
3. open TWRP RECOVERY
4. FLASH that ZIP
5. HIT THANKS !
Have Fun ...
Welcome to the Flashing Fraternity !!! LOL

miku3191 said:
You seem to be taking interest in Rooting and stuffs. I would suggest you to get handy with a few ADB and FASTBOOT commands and you won't need any toolkit ever in Life !!!
BOOM...
You are now on stock KitKat !
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Hello
Thank you for replying but I fear that I will not be following your advice at the moment.
I initially asked how to ROOT my phone so that I can learn how to do backups and recoveries. My phone is ready for the Over The Air official upgrade.
I want to take things one step at a time rather than causing problems by blindly following code.
Sorry

the lemming said:
Hello
Thank you for replying but I fear that I will not be following your advice at the moment.
I initially asked how to ROOT my phone so that I can learn how to do backups and recoveries. My phone is ready for the Over The Air official upgrade.
I want to take things one step at a time rather than causing problems by blindly following code.
Sorry
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If you want official OTA update of KitKat you should update it, and after that unlock bootloader and root phone. That way nothing will go wrong.
If you unlock bootloader and root your phone OTA update will cause problems like stuck in bootloop(your phone will be stuck on nexus logo and it will never boot into android)
If you want to learn about rooting I suggest you this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367406
this is excelent tutorial how to root your nexus 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
and if you are more comfortable to hear and see somebody do it you can check out this page it have video of full process and pictures for every step http://nexus4root.com/nexus-4-root/how-to-root-nexus-4-windowsmac-osxlinuxubuntu/
Good luck!:cyclops:

miku3191 said:
You seem to be taking interest in Rooting and stuffs. I would suggest you to get handy with a few ADB and FASTBOOT commands and you won't need any toolkit ever in Life !!!
Its very very very easy in Nexus Devices.
Good luck!:cyclops:
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This process is an absolute nightmare.
All I want to do is back-up my Jelly Bean phone operating system and have it safe in case the OTA Kit Kat goes wrong. I thought that this was sensible and safe practice before doing any updates, especially something as serious as a system update?
I have now tried several Tutorials on how to root my phone and all I have succeeded in doing is wiping my phone clean and returning it to Factory Settings. The latest Tutorial was here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
I followed the following advice to this point
1) All of the files that are required, need to be in one (i.e., the same) directory. It does not matter what it is called, but all the files need to be in there, with NO subfolders. EVERYTHING needs to be extracted into this one directory;
2) Download the attachment from the end of this post and extract the contents to the directory created in step 1. (Latest version for Windows is here). Note: if all you want to do is unlock your bootloader, skip to step 7 in this section (C).
7) Reboot your device into bootloader mode (by turning it off, hold volume down, and press and hold power) and plug it into your computer;
8) Open a command prompt in the same directory (i.e., make sure you are in the same directory as your files are located). You can hold the shift key when you are in the folder in Windows explorer and right-click in a blank spot and it will open a command prompt.
I then get to the bit about rooting
E. Optional -- Root
If you want to get root access follow the steps below. (And no, this will not flash a custom recovery, and not, it will not make you "not stock".) Unlocked bootloader required. See steps above.
1) Download (to your computer) the latest version of CWM (from here) or TWRP (from here) for your device;
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/developers/mako?name=Google Nexus 4
And when I click the link I am blinded by options. This is a nightmare.
Could somebody please cut through all this hyperbole and just explain how I get ROOT?
I have been at this for 24 hours solid.

the lemming said:
This process is an absolute nightmare.
All I want to do is back-up my Jelly Bean phone operating system and have it safe in case the OTA Kit Kat goes wrong. I thought that this was sensible and safe practice before doing any updates, especially something as serious as a system update?
I have now tried several Tutorials on how to root my phone and all I have succeeded in doing is wiping my phone clean and returning it to Factory Settings. The latest Tutorial was here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
I followed the following advice to this point
1) All of the files that are required, need to be in one (i.e., the same) directory. It does not matter what it is called, but all the files need to be in there, with NO subfolders. EVERYTHING needs to be extracted into this one directory;
2) Download the attachment from the end of this post and extract the contents to the directory created in step 1. (Latest version for Windows is here). Note: if all you want to do is unlock your bootloader, skip to step 7 in this section (C).
7) Reboot your device into bootloader mode (by turning it off, hold volume down, and press and hold power) and plug it into your computer;
8) Open a command prompt in the same directory (i.e., make sure you are in the same directory as your files are located). You can hold the shift key when you are in the folder in Windows explorer and right-click in a blank spot and it will open a command prompt.
I then get to the bit about rooting
E. Optional -- Root
If you want to get root access follow the steps below. (And no, this will not flash a custom recovery, and not, it will not make you "not stock".) Unlocked bootloader required. See steps above.
1) Download (to your computer) the latest version of CWM (from here) or TWRP (from here) for your device;
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager/developers/mako?name=Google Nexus 4
And when I click the link I am blinded by options. This is a nightmare.
Could somebody please cut through all this hyperbole and just explain how I get ROOT?
I have been at this for 24 hours solid.
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The point you are missing is that your fear is clouding your ability to simply read and comprehend the proper steps to take. My friend rooting your phone with a toolkit is a simple task but you ask what is Wugs toolkit instead of taking the time to search for it an read up. YOu do not want to root your phone but to have someone do it for you. I used to do this for people back in the days where I would log into their pc and root their phones from my home.
My friend its simple your bootloader is unlocked and now all you need to do is push a recovery over to your phone. Now go to the TWRP thread and download the image file and follow the instructions given to you to flash the recovery. I fear if following these simple directions are too much for you maybe you should simply leave your phone alone before the next step is you calling Google with an issue or having to buy another phone...
Sorry but thats my honest opinion....
Edit: Boot into bootloader and check to see if its says unlocked. If so then all thats left is flashing a recovery

the lemming said:
This process is an absolute nightmare.
And when I click the link I am blinded by options. This is a nightmare.
Could somebody please cut through all this hyperbole and just explain how I get ROOT?
I have been at this for 24 hours solid.
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Reading your posts, I understand your frustration. Here are my suggestions, 1) step away from your PC for a few minutes or an hour or get a cup of water, 2) put the phone aside, 3) read and re-read the information in Google Nexus 4 threads just to get the knowledge first and then start working on your phone. You will be doing fine. BTW, you should have a back up phone that you can use while working on your Nexus 4.

playya said:
Edit: Boot into bootloader and check to see if its says unlocked. If so then all thats left is flashing a recovery
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Thank you for this useful bit of information.

the lemming said:
Thank you for this useful bit of information.
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You got it man I know but sometimes the truth hurts... You have been given all the information laid out for you in the posts above. If this is still too difficult for you your only other task is to actually have somebody do it for you this is nothing more than simply reading and taking your time. I tell you this with all sincerity I would rather see you stop now than later see another thread created by you saying possibly bricked
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playya said:
You got it man I know but sometimes the truth hurts... You have been given all the information laid out for you in the posts above. If this is still too difficult for you your only other task is to actually have somebody do it for you this is nothing more than simply reading and taking your time. I tell you this with all sincerity I would rather see you stop now than later see another thread created by you saying possibly bricked
Take care
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the lemming said:
And when I click the link I am blinded by options. This is a nightmare.
Could somebody please cut through all this hyperbole and just explain how I get ROOT?
I have been at this for 24 hours solid.
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I trust that you have read the entire guide from that link you post. To get you see this clearly. Rooting is very easy. You just have to:
1. Install driver, download platform-tools (if you don't wanna download the entire android sdk) and SuperSU I trust that all the links are given in that guide.
2. Make sure you device is detected in adb. Copy SuperSU.zip into your device.
3. Unlock your device.
4. Push recovery. fastboot flash recovery recovery name.img
5. Reboot into recovery and flash SuperSu.zip
6. Reboot. Done.
Really..this is all it takes to perform a simple rooting. But if you're not the one who likes to read..and try to understand the steps. I suggest you not to mess with your device. You are more likely to brick it than make it better. The truth hurts but it is for your own good. Unless you prove me wrong. Then you are awesome instead
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