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Eugene OR TeamWhiskey 2.2

So it looks like they both have working 2.2 builds out in the wild now. My question is which one is better, or which one are YOU going to use? Let's try and keep the comparison here, that way we don't clog up both of these wonderful dev's threads.

I have never used either since I'm still stock. What was the general consensus before their new 2.2 builds?

I wouldn't know. They both have a huge following though. What I have noticed is that each one has very loyal followers. It almost seems as if its "either one or the other". But since it is now 2.2, it is a completely different ball game.

jzero88 said:
I wouldn't know. They both have a huge following though. What I have noticed is that each one has very loyal followers. It almost seems as if its "either one or the other". But since it is now 2.2, it is a completely different ball game.
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I thinks it's really your preference no two vibrants are the same so whatever works best for your phone and for you is what matters try them both try them all you'll figure out what's best for you I'm running bionix final with jacs oc/uv kernel but I've tried the froyo roms they are cool but for me this works best have fun and for the love of god stay drunk
Times never wasted when your getting waisted

I thinks it's really your preference no two vibrants are the same so whatever works best for your phone and for you is what matters try them both try them all you'll figure out what's best for you I'm running bionix final with jacs oc/uv kernel but I've tried the froyo roms they are cool but for me this works best have fun and for the love of god stay drunk
Times never wasted when your getting waisted
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lol +1
I love you man. nohomo

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My question is which one is better?
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Fair question, but somewhat irrelevant in my opinion. My experience with stock vs cooked ROMs (MT3G CM6) is that the only real advantage is better speed. Sure, a few different user-experience changes, but that's all. An the stock ROMs are far more stable.
My stock Vibrant is already plenty fast. I'm rooted and can use root-only apps. My Dolphin browser already displays Flash. JIT will make it technically faster, but will I actually notice..? What would Eugene or TeamWhiskey add to that...?

Have not tried either but am running fusion by team wiskey with there kernel. Phone runs to good to worry about 2.2.
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argie said:
Fair question, but somewhat irrelevant in my opinion. My experience with stock vs cooked ROMs (MT3G CM6) is that the only real advantage is better speed. Sure, a few different user-experience changes, but that's all. An the stock ROMs are far more stable.
My stock Vibrant is already plenty fast. I'm rooted and can use root-only apps. My Dolphin browser already displays Flash. JIT will make it technically faster, but will I actually notice..? What would Eugene or TeamWhiskey add to that...?
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What flash are you running on stock?
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jonwilly said:
Have not tried either but am running fusion by team wiskey with there kernel. Phone runs to good to worry about 2.2.
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I like this post cause so many people wanna be on 2.2 for a lot of
Reasons but I only want the flash player lol
Times never wasted when your getting waisted

Team whiskey roms are far too buggy to rely on
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snorge said:
Team whiskey roms are far too buggy to rely on
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This statement is very inaccurate. When was the last time you installed a bionix rom?
I'm running the 2.2 and it is flawless. 2.2 offers a lot of improvements over 2.1 besides flash. If you don't know what those are then you really shouldn't be giving uninformed information.
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Which one looks like stock? Both? I really despise the all black theme I see on the 2.1 Bionix roms. It just looks tacky in some places like the notifications pull down and it's too black. I see Macnut looks kind of like stock.. no screenshots included with either tho. Either way I've downloaded Macnut and I will be installing it ASAP. I'll try the other 2.2 rom next..

willsnews said:
I like this post cause so many people wanna be on 2.2 for a lot of
Reasons but I only want the flash player lol
Times never wasted when your getting waisted
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2.2 is A VERY BIG update. I dont know about Vibrant, but it should improve battery, it should run faster due to JIT, it has MANY extra features, and its compatible with 2.2 apps (new Gmail, Chrome-to-phone, youtube, flash...etc). move to 2.3 is not that big
that said, i trust TW more then Eugene.

Personally I think it's too soon to be worried about which one is better for general use. I'd give it a little time for each to get some additional polish unless you just enjoy flashing roms all the time every time a new one comes out. Chances are there'll be bug-fixes and tweaks to both in the next few days. Wait for that and more feedback from the early adopters and then decide...

When I got my phone used it had Eugenes rom on it, but I felt Bionix and team Whiskeys roms have been the best roms besides CM.
Put it this way I have only donated to 2 developers, #1 CM and #2 Team Whiskey.

kangxi said:
This statement is very inaccurate. When was the last time you installed a bionix rom?
I'm running the 2.2 and it is flawless. 2.2 offers a lot of improvements over 2.1 besides flash. If you don't know what those are then you really shouldn't be giving uninformed information.
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It isn't flawless. Calendar doesn't sync. Holding back results in a FC (new screenshot feature not implemented properly). I've had inconsistency in the market. Don't get me wrong, I'm using it and I like it, but don't throw the word 'flawless' around so easily.

If you remove screencapture.apk that fixes the back button long press fc and you need to install calendar(something).apk to fix sync issues..

It all comes down to personal preference. My experience with Eugene's 2.1 ROMs are that they're TOO skinned. I personally prefer Team Whiskey.
To answer your question about which looks more stock, Team Whiskey hasn't really skinned the Obsidian ROM all that much, so it basically looks like Stock TouchWiz.

bullale said:
It isn't flawless. Calendar doesn't sync. Holding back results in a FC (new screenshot feature not implemented properly). I've had inconsistency in the market. Don't get me wrong, I'm using it and I like it, but don't throw the word 'flawless' around so easily.
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there is a fix already for both

I was using Macnut R7 and was about to flash R9 but Team Whiskeys downloaded faster. The major difference between R9 and 7 is, wi fi calling, modem and working gps with some minor tweeks.
If that is true then my comparison won't be too far off.
The biggest difference between the too is that Team W is a near perfect leak of the official 2.2 rom and Eugene's has some mods like built lag fix and a modified version of T.W. which for the most part is better than stock (not perfect but better; in my opinion)
That should really be what makes you choose which one you want.
Secondary things to think about is that, whiskey roms are known for getting official ota's which is nice if you want to get the official with little work, but its still kinda glitchy and slower than Eugenes, but not in a bad way. If you are running stock without a lag fix then you won't notice much. Eugene's rom is highly modded and some stock things won't work like if you still have avatar on your sdcard, and since his is a port there are some remnants of I9000 and cappy things floating around that can throw you off. But it is less glitchy atm and too me looks better. It has a lightly themed Modified TW. But you can get and install that yourself if you want there is a link in the macnut thread.
Hope that helps. I'm Running tw's rom now but I'm going to check out R9.

ROM Suggestion plz!

Hey XDA,
Its been a long time since I last did anything with my phone. Used to run Baked Snack and some other ROMs that were on here. Got a replacement phone and have just been running stock froyo for the past 6 months or so. I can't believe how many roms there are now for the Epic! None of them look familiar either.
I've been getting an itch to start flashing again. I was hoping to get some suggestions for what I should try next. Are there any good ones that you might recommend? I've been following MIUI for a while but am worried about reliability. As you might guess, a stable rom is most important to me. Battery life, and clean looks are also important. I don't need fancy backgrounds or startup animations. Just something as close to barebones as possible.
Any suggestions will be appreciated--TIA!

Srf 1.2 then flash the genocide 2.0 kernel in the same flash session. I'm sure many will give you this suggestion
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SRF 1.2 I use Revolted kernel w/it Sleek...clean...fast...no FCs. Many out there, but I'm stuck on this one. I think they're working on 1.3.
I like Go Green too, just the select menu was hard to read. But it's nice nonetheless. I think I ran that on EH17. SRF is EC05 based.
Anyhow...qbking77 has some great vids on youtube...there you can see how some of them look and work before trying them.
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.OmEgA said:
Srf 1.2 then flash the genocide 2.0 kernel in the same flash session. I'm sure many will give you this suggestion
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One more thing the journalon.zip too
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I like aosp rom
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I agree, Simply AOSP v4, and v4.1 will be out this weekend. It has journaling on by default and will flash the kernel automatically
But in all fairness, there really isn't a bad ROM in the Epic forum.

If you want no problems and basic rooted stock then you want either ReRFS ROM or odin in EC05plus.

volcomssj48 said:
Hey XDA,
Its been a long time since I last did anything with my phone. Used to run Baked Snack and some other ROMs that were on here. Got a replacement phone and have just been running stock froyo for the past 6 months or so. I can't believe how many roms there are now for the Epic! None of them look familiar either.
I've been getting an itch to start flashing again. I was hoping to get some suggestions for what I should try next. Are there any good ones that you might recommend? I've been following MIUI for a while but am worried about reliability. As you might guess, a stable rom is most important to me. Battery life, and clean looks are also important. I don't need fancy backgrounds or startup animations. Just something as close to barebones as possible.
Any suggestions will be appreciated--TIA!
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Gotta say..EC05 with SFR 1.2 and genocide.....i've flashed them all and for me this is the most stable

Whichever you decide, please read through the entire thread for that ROM in Development so you can see what issues might pop up and what was done to resolve them.

Bonsai 4.1.3 has been my go-to ROM. It's as close to perfect as I could imagine, really really stable, great battery life, and overall just reliable. It also does this without replacing your sounds with stupid robot noises, heavy metal guitars, or putting some ridiculous theme on your phone.
You'll have to google "epic 4g bonsai" to find the site, it's not available in the dev forums here.

I like stock for the most part, EH17
Though I have updated to EH17plus kernel

Good ROM to try out?

hey guys iv been rooted since day 1 and iv been on KINGS ROM since day 1 as well!
but i want to get off of kings rom and try out new stable rom. what are the good ones out there?

If you never use your 4G, then MIUI is the ROM for you. It's fast, stable, and energy-efficient despite all the "bugs" people ramble about. It's also very customizable and updates every Friday to ensure you always get the latest versions and bug fixes.

Lacedaemon said:
If you never use your 4G, then MIUI is the ROM for you. It's fast, stable, and energy-efficient despite all the "bugs" people ramble about. It's also very customizable and updates every Friday to ensure you always get the latest versions and bug fixes.
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+1 Miui isgreat.
idont get 4g where i live, so zero loss there

Lacedaemon said:
If you never use your 4G, then MIUI is the ROM for you. It's fast, stable, and energy-efficient despite all the "bugs" people ramble about. It's also very customizable and updates every Friday to ensure you always get the latest versions and bug fixes.
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iv tried out MIUI. i didnt really like it cause theres TOO much stuff to customize lol.
plus i dont get 4g where i live =(

If you have not tried a Sense 3.5 ROM yet I suggest $PrimeXL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354283

for aosp gingerbread evo deck, and for sense I love $PrimeXL

Xplod is a CM based rom thats very fast and all the profiles are up todate,very customizable and lots of mods. TN's Xplod

Also try sinister it's mix of sense 2.1 and 3.0 . Sense 3.5 roms have one isssue or another.
Decks doesn't have flash working in 4g
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Warrior 3000 said:
hey guys iv been rooted since day 1 and iv been on KINGS ROM since day 1 as well!
but i want to get off of kings rom and try out new stable rom. what are the good ones out there?
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check out the link in my sig, all aosp roms are there

Decks 1.3d with tiatmat 3.3.7 kernal + go launcher + lawsons blue theme + car-o-dope tweak = Cleanest quickest best performing Rom for the Evo
Oh ya throw a bit of a2sd in the mix and you'll never look back
And just a quick +1 for the Cardinals win today

Prime XL!!!!

Go launcher becomes laggy as balls when I put widgets on my home screen.

Hazelfoot said:
Go launcher becomes laggy as balls when I put widgets on my home screen.
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Have u ever used go launcher with v6 or car-o-dope Tweak. No lag just balls
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there should be some fresh ICS based roms shortly.
myself, i come back to CM7 everytime i try to wander away to some other rom.

Roms
Where can I go to download these ROMS? Where can I search for them?

M7XH said:
Where can I go to download these ROMS? Where can I search for them?
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In the development section
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I can't wait to get my hands on a stable ICS rom. It will just give us EVO owners that much more shelf life.
Question, I know there is an Alpha for ICS in the works right now. Do the developers already have everything they need to develop the rom or does a phone like the Galaxy Nexus which will have ICS stock have to come out first?
As for a good current rom, I'm running Mik 2.61, very clean, stable and great battery life. It's a Sense rom, different themes are available.
DraginMagik said:
there should be some fresh ICS based roms shortly.
myself, i come back to CM7 everytime i try to wander away to some other rom.
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I am really enjoying using [ROM]11/22/11 RCMix3d Runny® ☰SENSE 3.5 Blue/Glass

[Q] ICS - Which rom is the most stable?

Hello everyone,
I already have tried the following roms:
- Taboonay
- Flexreaper
- Lightspeed
- Icylicious
All them are considered stable releases but I got some bugs, all roms got particularities like: Can't install all apps, running slow, battery drain, slow fps, etc.
Maybe I've installed a wrong Kernel for these roms?
Which one do yours recommend to me? I'm looking for a stable rom and not many features.
Actually I've reverted to 3.2.1 using Thor Rom v14.2 and I was glad but this release is a kinda old and I still looking for updates, like chrome browser and some ICS new features.
I appreciate your help.
Thanks anyway

Use flex reaper 10 it has a modded or tweaked kernel but the others to my knowledge use pretty much stock kernel. I find flexreaperthe best as of now till acer has released ics for reals. I don't get bad fps except buttons on shadowgun and I'm an android gamer.
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Give thors v96 ics a try. Other than the camera not working. It is very stable. V126 is a little rocky. I am waiting for the next update to give it another shot. I am running v96 again until then.

I'm using Flexreaper R10 by Civato and this rom is wonderful! Obviously, like every leaked version, has some bugs, but not too much and it's stable enough.
With tweaked kernel in R10 release the quadrant score is about 2700, not bad for a leaked..
Everything is working good, also the camera,it's not up to the best working but it's good enough
For more info take a look to civato's thread
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I really like Lighspeed 4.3 + civato's tweaked kernel.... lag free combo.

As you can see what I am using, I like the Acer ring with mods with Acer print and lock screen, just watch out for Beta's. Use one that is one or two versions old, good luck
Acer Iconia A500 Rooted Running Flexreaper R7 ICS 4.0.3

currently under Thor 133, everything is fine.
i wanna give a try to flexreaper last one too, seems quite good

icy ics the best so far, very stable... tested for month no problem so far

Curently on flexreaper very stable , tried icylicious had some quirks but nothing worth mentioning

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Curently on flexreaper very stable , tried icylicious had some quirks but nothing worth mentioning
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Please do. I can't fix what I don't know about, and since there are so few posts about "supposed" problems with it as opposed to the other lengthy threads with mostly complaints about stability, I'd like to hear all about them

humm best rom i do not know for sure.. Only trouble i have with any of them is THAT I CANT RUN Them all at the same time.. Maybe i need a few more tablets..
But i do think its in bad taste to start a thread asking What is better . READ THE FORUM THREAD of each rom try a few and decide for yourself . Dont make it sound like a competition. all the DEV/ Cooks work together in this Forum. the uses should do the same..
Hi all... by the way Just been spending lots of time with the kid the last few weeks. HE Left today off to College. WHOOWEEE no kids on the house. Med school will last many years as well.

I was currently using last Flexreaper version but some apps stop working randomly. Someone got something like this before?
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humm best rom i do not know for sure.. Only trouble i have with any of them is THAT I CANT RUN Them all at the same time.. Maybe i need a few more tablets..
But i do think its in bad taste to start a thread asking What is better . READ THE FORUM THREAD of each rom try a few and decide for yourself . Dont make it sound like a competition. all the DEV/ Cooks work together in this Forum. the uses should do the same..
Hi all... by the way Just been spending lots of time with the kid the last few weeks. HE Left today off to College. WHOOWEEE no kids on the house. Med school will last many years as well.
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Dear erica_renee,
I'm not trying to make it sounds like a competition.
I've just asked which one is the most STABLE rom and not the Best.
As you can see, I'm not looking for features. I already have given a chance for some roms but they got some bugs .
I've made a simple question , so if you dont have any information to share here, dont post nonsense things and stop flame on my topic.

marcusvideira said:
I was currently using last Flexreaper version but some apps stop working randomly. Someone got something like this before?
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If you post something like this you need to give info on what apps and if you followed installation instructions TO THE LETTER.
I only got one app that closed not FC once a week and that is Asus Taskmanager , it doesn't crash just stops and restarts.

Just for information: From time to time, I had with FlexReaper some FCs with GPS apps, like Google Maps. Then I found out that the FCs were related to SetCPU, which I still had on my tab, although it was without function. After deinstalling SetCPU I never observed any FCs.
Best regards, maris

Most of the time if you are experiencing stability issues with these ICS ROMs is because of something else, whether it is an app that hasn't been optimized for ICS, or old junk from previous apps. Other causes could be a bad flash or some steps being left out when wiping a previous ROM. For the most part, if everything is done right, all the ROMS that these great chefs have cooked up are really solid. I never have issues with mine.

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If you post something like this you need to give info on what apps and if you followed installation instructions TO THE LETTER.
I only got one app that closed not FC once a week and that is Asus Taskmanager , it doesn't crash just stops and restarts.
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I'll have to agree so far I haven't had any constant problems with civato's roms. As of now their the best out there. From what I've experienced unless its in alpha or beta stages, something you did or didn't do causes your problems. even if its just an app you use or how you restore data.
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FLEX
i recently installed FLEX REAPER for iconia a100, it runs incredibly fast and stable but i also notice my battery is draining like hell... and with ICS stock not...
i have wifi on and Hd widgets set to up date every hour and nothing else...
i turned the tablet at 7 am with 100% and now is 75% !!! with stock rom the tablet was at 90%...
even with that i like the rom...

Testing complete - SentinelROM

BETA Testing now complete....
ROM will be available in the Development section soon.

Sentinel196 said:
Hi all,
I am the developer of SentinelROM, which is one of the most popular ROMs for Nexus 10, Nexus 7, Nexus 4 and HTC One X.
SentinelROM is compiled by me with modified CyanogenMod 10.1 code (additional tweaks for performance and battery life, as well as some theming). So far the ROM has been very successful.
I've decided to release the ROM for Samsung Galaxy SIII (i9300) also, but I need your help as I don't own a SGSIII to test with.
I am reaching out to anyone who would be willing to flash my test ROM and test a few things for me.
If you're interested, please PM me either here, or via the SentinelROM facebook page. I will reply with a download link and instructions.
I only need a few people for testing, so please don't be offended if I don't get back to you with a download link.
This ROM is for i9300 only at this stage, so please do not reply if you own an i9305 as the ROM will not work on your device.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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You know I want to, but as you said on FB, probably not a good idea to do it on my wife's everyday phone
Everyone, this guy turns out a great ROM. I have Sentinel ROM on my Nexus 4 and it's very, VERY nice. I highly recommend it.

Thanks for the plug mate.

OP updated with a download link so you can get up and running right away.
Looking forward to some feedback so I can launch this ROM

Well i am installing this now will let you know how it goes..

Thanks heaps!
how did you go?

I wish I cud try it too. Any chance for us I9305 users to get this? Maybe later when it gets a good rep on i9300? I know you asked us users to not to reply but I cudnt resist asking
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Well everything is working as normal. I played about with the rom it is pretty stable. Everything works, and when i fell asleep unlike cm the battery never drained maybe about 3 percent drain overnight which is great. So the battery life on this rom is excellent. You're good to go with your rom. Sorry for the late reply i installed this around midnight. Used the rom and till about 2am and fell asleep. I am still using it. I must say overall it is a great rom. Thank you very much. I've not yet found a fault but maybe i might find one but that would be cm related.
For a beta rom this is really stable. Onlything maybe it isn't a big problem now but in the ota updater lol it doesn't recognize the device as MO.

Beautiful!!!
I'll credit you in the OP. Thankyou very much!

Sentinel196 said:
Beautiful!!!
I'll credit you in the OP. Thankyou very much!
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I will let you know if i find anything else and you're most welcome.

sentinel rom v 4.5 for gt-i9300
Hello, Sentinel.
First of all I'd like to thank you for this truly amazing rom, there's so many things I can do with my phone and change almost everything I want to within it. I only found 1 issue which may not be an issue at all, I might still be a bit inexperienced with all this modding stuff, but I haven't found a way to overclock or undervolt my phone using your kernel, but I took a risk of using siyah kernel 1.9.1 which is said not to be compatible with 4.2.2 JB and basically all new roms that are out now, but the funny thing is IT DOES WORK! And I think that siyah 1.9.1 kernel and your custom sentinel rom is the best combo ever for my galaxy s3. The battery works great even when I overclock it, it's really stable and never glitching. I can say I'm a heavy consumer, wifi constantly on, and I'm playing psone games with and emulator alot and it still does a pretty decent job. On my next payday I'm definitely donating, buddy. And in a months time when s3 stock 4.2.2 JB will come out, I'd like to see what you can do with that one aswell.
Keep up the great work, best regards, Lietus.

Lietus said:
Hello, Sentinel.
First of all I'd like to thank you for this truly amazing rom, there's so many things I can do with my phone and change almost everything I want to within it. I only found 1 issue which may not be an issue at all, I might still be a bit inexperienced with all this modding stuff, but I haven't found a way to overclock or undervolt my phone using your kernel, but I took a risk of using siyah kernel 1.9.1 which is said not to be compatible with 4.2.2 JB and basically all new roms that are out now, but the funny thing is IT DOES WORK! And I think that siyah 1.9.1 kernel and your custom sentinel rom is the best combo ever for my galaxy s3. The battery works great even when I overclock it, it's really stable and never glitching. I can say I'm a heavy consumer, wifi constantly on, and I'm playing psone games with and emulator alot and it still does a pretty decent job. On my next payday I'm definitely donating, buddy. And in a months time when s3 stock 4.2.2 JB will come out, I'd like to see what you can do with that one aswell.
Keep up the great work, best regards, Lietus.
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Hi Lietus. I assume you posted this here because you can't post in the ROM thread, so I'll answer you here
My official position on over/underclocking and UV/OV is discussed on my website. Have a browse.
Sorry but it's not something I support in my ROMs. People are alwsys welcome to use other Kernels to unlock these features if they want them.
Looking forward to payday

Hey, this is my first post, you did a really good job with this rom!
Is there any way to disable the fullscreen keyboard feature?

I understand where you're coming from and I totally agree with you if we users want we can make it ourselves using different kernels especially when your ROM is that great and it accepts different types of kernels. And I've got 5 different types of android machines which could use some improvement so if you're interested and have the time to expand your ROMs through those it would be just awesome. Because your ROM is actually the first custom one I've tried, and after a lot of research I can't seem to trust myself with someone else's
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