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latest update prevents you from removing sense...

ok, i just noticed, the most previous update doesnt let you turn sense off...

I was about to make a thread on this too.
Bad news, but not worried because i'm probably gonna end up rooting this baby.
The question is why?
At a glance it appears they quite literally removed the Launcher.apk.
While this is probably a good thing for people who only use HTC sense, since it won't be running in the background..
It sucks for those of us who love android with no frills.
Cmon HTC the point of all this was openness and customization, where did it all go wrong?
If somebody could provide a changelog for the update, i'd be grateful

I disabled the Sense Launcher and using Launcher Pro....

does launcher pro make the phone faster? looking to speed it up a bit, but not sure i wanna root yet( did on past 3 android phones) just no roms look worth it yet. Wish we had a aosp 2.2 or fully working 2.2 or even stock 2.1

To be more specific he meant the stock launcher can no longer be used in place of sense.
Incomplete Changelog found:
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An OTA, over-the-air maintenance release, software version 1.47.651.1, has been released!!* You will either receive a notification on the device that an update is available, or you can check for the updated version by going to Settings > System Updates > HTC software update.
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HTC EVO 4G Software version 1.47.651.1
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Update includes:
Improvements to Wi-Fi performance
Exchange Active Sync improvements, including fix to issues with new account setup, PIN policy usage and Exchange Calendar 2010 Sync
Addresses Facebook sync issue which can improve battery performance
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Download Timing:
Customers will be notified that an update is available. The download will take a couple minutes (depending on the device connection) and the install will take a couple minutes which includes an automatic power cycle. Download will take a couple minutes if in 3g coverage.
HTC servers will push the OTA update on a daily basis.
FOTA server will check for old software version and prompt once a day on units without the latest firmware until customer accepts.
WARNING - Rooted Devices:
Most likely rooted devices will not accept or even receive the update which is expected and why roots void warranty.
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topdnbass said:
Cmon HTC the point of all this was openness and customization, where did it all go wrong?
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Exactly.
It honestly seems like HTC has purposely gone the extra mile to lock us out. Perhaps for all of the emails regarding the 30fps cap.

topdnbass said:
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WARNING - Rooted Devices:
Most likely rooted devices will not accept or even receive the update which is expected and why roots void warranty.
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If only that were true. Twice or more daily. I'm forced to refuse.
Why not post it in an email, instead just pop it up top. WTF

Non-sense
Is this another issue that HTC needs emails about because I definitely want the option to turn off sense..

The thread title is misleading you can disable sense. The problem is they removed the vanilla android launcher. But you can most definitely disable sense launcher and use a third party launcher.
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donatom3 said:
The thread title is misleading you can disable sense. The problem is they removed the vanilla android launcher. But you can most definitely disable sense launcher and use a third party launcher.
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Can you still do the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXLsiWNqP8
I'm waiting for the EVO to ship with 2.2 & want to be able to remove sense. I know there is always rooting but it would be nice to be able to do it without concerns of voiding the warranty.

The point of this thread is that we CANT do that. Launcher isn't an option. They removed the apk.
What language should i say this in?
Well. Let's start writing those emails.
Sent from my Evo 4G

Anyway to reinstall that apk file?

What you should be saying is HTC removed the vanilla android launcher. You can still force stop sense and clear it as the default launcher. You just need to install another launcher. Some really good ones are available on the market. I think Launcher + is better than the Android one even better than the froyo one.
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topdnbass said:
The point of this thread is that we CANT do that. Launcher isn't an option. They removed the apk.
What language should i say this in?
Well. Let's start writing those emails.
Sent from my Evo 4G
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Ummm, you CAN do that, just reinstall the launcher or download a different one from the market. They didn't prevent you from using a different launcher other than Sense. Just go download Helix2 which is nearly identical to the stock one plus more, or Launcher pro which super fast. If you really want the stock Laucher just ask for it and someone could probably post it.

It has always been the way it is for me now... all they did was remove the stock Launcher. All you have to do is download a new Launcher and set it as default, very simple and I've had Android for less than a week.

Can someone point me to a download link for the stock launcher apk? much appreciate it

ghos401 said:
Can someone point me to a download link for the stock launcher apk? much appreciate it
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Attached below

danknee said:
Attached below
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Thanks for "Launcher2.apk" I got "Application not installed".
Launcher Pro is in the market and works perfect..

zone23 said:
Thanks for "Launcher2.apk" I got "Application not installed".
Launcher Pro is in the market and works perfect..
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Probably because it is pulled out of /system/app

disabling sense and using the stock launcher was the only way to get my computer to see my phone. i tried launcher pro but my comp will not see my phone now, very very frustrating.

How make make my phone better.

Anyone have any tips that I could use to make my Android/Atrix experience better.
Any tips?
*Sorry if this is in the wrong section.

Oh sorry, didn't see it. Don't need to swear at me.

Here is my tip from my shallow experience with the phone and android.
1. do factory reset after your phone has been fully charged to 100% for 4hours-ish while its turned off
2. get before update root
3. update to 1.57
4. do the post update root
5. get titanium backup pro and go to the freeze the applications under the safelist.
6. get an launcher (I bought launcherpro plus, but i think just launcherpro is just as good... because the only major perks i've noticed was the launcherpro widgets and widget resizing)
7. freeze the motoblur home(after installing another launcher like lpp)
8. download screengrabber app (it works on rooted phone and I like using it, you may not need a screen capture program)
9. do the webtop mod if you want to try it. you need android sdk first to do adb commands. (I tried it to see how lapdock would feel like and I found it pretty good)
I love launcher pro, as it looks so nice!!! 3d app drawer and home screen flipping animations, and overall so many settings you can customize. (# of app row, column etc)

hungryeel said:
here is my tip from my shallow experience with the phone and android.
1. Do factory reset after your phone has been fully charged to 100% for 4hours-ish while its turned off
2. Get before update root
3. Update to 1.57
4. Do the post update root
5. Get titanium backup pro and go to the freeze the applications under the safelist.
6. Get an launcher (i bought launcherpro plus, but i think just launcherpro is just as good... Because the only major perks i've noticed was the launcherpro widgets and widget resizing)
7. Freeze the motoblur home(after installing another launcher like lpp)
8. Download screengrabber app (it works on rooted phone and i like using it, you may not need a screen capture program)
9. Do the webtop mod if you want to try it. You need android sdk first to do adb commands. (i tried it to see how lapdock would feel like and i found it pretty good)
i love launcher pro, as it looks so nice!!! 3d app drawer and home screen flipping animations, and overall so many settings you can customize. (# of app row, column etc)
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thank you so much!

Haven't used the phone, but just look around under the forums and find some guides. Atleast you will be able to find a guide to root it and such which will make life much better and more open for improvement best of luck.
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That was pretty pointless...
no need to cuss...
I was in the same boat as the OP and it was hard for me to search through the massive massive amount of info on this forum.
No need to be so hostile... There has been alot of hate on the forum lately. I know it gets annoying when the new users start asking questions that can be found by searching. But, you have two sensible choices: 1. give them some tips so they know what to search for, or 2. don't reply to thread and let the thread die off...

Dude, You better calm down! I just got banned a couple days for fighting with somebody and cursing and you have a ****load of posts just like this! I had 2 posts then banned! You've been lucky so far but all someones gotta do is report you and then here comes the ban hammer!
No ones even starting with you! This guy just asked a question! Calm down!

if you dont need stuff like email, calendar and contacts updated to the minute its a good idea to disable this feature in settings and with titanium backup. theres a big thread in the dev section about what apps from att that are safe to freeze with titanium. this alone will significantly increase your battery life.

neotekz said:
if you dont need stuff like email, calendar and contacts updated to the minute its a good idea to disable this feature in settings and with titanium backup. Theres a big thread in the dev section about what apps from att that are safe to freeze with titanium. This alone will significantly increase your battery life.
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thanks
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and if you're feeling real brave??.... You could root the **** out of it and flash gingerblur or gladiatrix or the newest rom greyblur!! Im about to flash greyblur right now!

If you want a gingerbead look to your phone, as well as getting rid of the hideous white notification bar, you should try out GingerBlur, a pseudo-rom for the Atrix.
GrayBlur has also been released, which I'll be trying out shortly.
Get a launcher. If you have the money (15$) I would buy SPB Shell. That is one amazing launcher. Or just get one of the many others like ADW, Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, etc.
If you want to tether (data plan required), go to the dev section to get the tethering APN for mobile hotspot.
Install Tenfar's custom bootstrap recovery. Allows you to flash ROMs.
Install the Amazon App market. A free paid app a day (games too).
And last but not least: check out the themes section. Lots of cool themes and boot images.

PixoNova said:
If you want a gingerbead look to your phone, as well as getting rid of the hideous white notification bar, you should try out GingerBlur, a pseudo-rom for the Atrix.
GrayBlur has also been released, which I'll be trying out shortly.
Get a launcher. If you have the money (15$) I would buy SPB Shell. That is one amazing launcher. Or just get one of the many others like ADW, Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, etc.
If you want to tether (data plan required), go to the dev section to get the tethering APN for mobile hotspot.
Install Tenfar's custom bootstrap recovery. Allows you to flash ROMs.
Install the Amazon App market. A free paid app a day (games too).
And last but not least: check out the themes section. Lots of cool themes and boot images.
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I didn't see the Amazon App Store on the Android Market. Where can I get it?

Chubby_Skunk said:
I didn't see the Amazon App Store on the Android Market. Where can I get it?
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You'll have to side load it. you can enable that by running glad root.
Then, download the apk from amazon, put it on your phone, and install
Definitely worth it
http://www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b?ie=UTF8&node=2350149011
Theres a link there to input your email to download it
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PixoNova said:
You'll have to side load it. you can enable that by running glad root.
Then, download the apk from amazon, put it on your phone, and install
Definitely worth it
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Alright thanks for the info. So I get one free app every day?

Chubby_Skunk said:
Alright thanks for the info. So I get one free app every day?
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Not of your choosing
But it'll tell which app will be for free. I got sham encore, zenonia 2, and trillian for free.
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Chubby_Skunk said:
Alright thanks for the info. So I get one free app every day?
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Yeah but one thing you gotta know is you can never uninstall amazon appstore or your free apps will stop working which kinda sucks!

Gutterball said:
Yeah but one thing you gotta know is you can never uninstall amazon appstore or your free apps will stop working which kinda sucks!
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Hm wasn't aware of that. I do know that every single download oas considered a purchase, so if you ever want to switch devices, you can just redownload them like ever normal market.
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PixoNova said:
Hm wasn't aware of that. I do know that every single download oas considered a purchase, so if you ever want to switch devices, you can just redownload them like ever normal market.
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Yeah as long as you reinstall amazon appstore all the time with it and I was reading that the appstore is kind of a form of spyware and require too much info from the user.
Uninstall appstore and you'll see. I had angry birds rio and a few others for free. I uninstalled the appstore and then my apps just stopped working! I heard this would happen but didnt believe it! But it is 100% true! Which like I said sucks!

How do I disable MotoBlur using TiBu?
Never live in the past but always learn from it.

Get GO Launcher EX. It's so much smoother than stock, you'll love it. I just returned to it after using LauncherPro Plus for a few weeks. Features on LauncherPro are great, but it had some stability issues for me, and GO Launcher is MUCH smoother and consistent for me. There are a lot of themes for it as well.

[Q] old home apk

i know this probably sounds really weird, but im sure im not the only person. one of the funnest things about owning an evo is the insane number of roms and themes out there. i actually have several different home apps setup so when i get bored with one i can just use froyo home switcher and voila, new home and theme. however recently i kinda started missing the old look. i've never been too fond of the htc sense ui. i just remember on my g1 and my mt3g the donut and cupcake home launchers. i've found a couple links to home apk's like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867060 but the apk apparently isn't compatible with froyo cuz it wouldn't install (failed parsing). can i use adb and force an older incompatible app to install perhaps to the /system/app/ folder (already know how to do it so i don't need instructions just wondering if it can be done) any help is appreciated. ive even thought about just searching for the png's in the apk files and switching the drawer tab and drawer background out for the old style png's. please and thanks
ps i was contemplating posting this under android/general but seeing as it has to be compatible with evo and froyo i figured this might hail better results

Why don't you just install adw from the market(its froyo compatible)? Plus adw has tons of free themes; It's about as close as your going to get to the stock home launcher from aosp. There's also a stock home launcher in the market you can download (both free) if you search "launcher".
No you cant install those old launchers from previous android builds it will just force close if its not froyo compatible.
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Thanks yea I kinda figured, thought maybe I could extract the apk and maybe update some parts to make it work. Yea I have adw ex already, its alright. Still kinda miss the aosp cupcake look but time changes everything. I think I should just start learning to develop apps myself instead of always leaning on everyone else.
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Look at HElauncher, it has a couple and is a light launcher that actually has the closest thing to a vanilla launcher.

How to remove TouchWiz (sort of)

Tim Hutt (from this forum) has done a great job of packaging the standard ICS launcher, sms app and calendar and sticking them on the market. You can get them here: (original thread)
Launcher, Calendar, Messaging
I've also removed that horrible chatON. Go to settings and click on Application Manager, click on the All tab, then find and click on chatON. Click on Force Stop and Disable. This will stop it appearing on the lock screen. The same thing can be applied to all Samsung bloatware, such as backup, account, software updates, etc.
This solution has turned out to work really well for me as I actually some of the new features on the phone, such as the motion bits, and the water unlock.
The dialer is the only thing that gets on my nerves still so if anyone has any way to get the original, do tell.

And if you also get annoyed by the icons and want the original ICS ones, get the ICS icons from here, and get QuickShortcutMaker.
You can now make shortcuts to the camera, dialer etc but use the original icons. It's anal I know, but I like what I like

Root your phone and use titanium back up then delete what you want
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I don't understand why so many people hate chat on. It's one of the best I'm apps outside of bbm! The only issue is people refuse to use it.
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^Because it's looks like iPhone-ish? lol.. BBM, iMessage.. That will not sell on Android enthusiasts.. for me, Whatsapp & Viber are easily the best out there!

Lennyuk said:
I don't understand why so many people hate chat on. It's one of the best I'm apps outside of bbm! The only issue is people refuse to use it.
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Horses for courses really on this one. My issues is the way it's pushed in my face. On the lock screen, there are shortcuts to: phone, camera, web, chat on - spot the odd one out!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1693755
Download my new Android 4.0 Package I made for you.

BB Launcher or 3rd party?

Anyone planning on using the default launcher with the Hub and the other BB apps or are you planning on going straight to NOVA/ Now launcher out of the box? I think the BB Launcher looks pretty clean, so I'll be giving it a chance. Can't be any worse than touchwiz, right?

I'm probably going to use the BB launcher unless I can use the Hub with the Now launcher.

The Hub is supposed to be an apk, so theoretically we should still be able to use it with other launchers. The only question that lingers is whether or not there are BB launcher-specific features not usable by other launchers (like widgets or something)

Hopefully other launchers can use BB specific apps. I really like Nova!

It's has any offline download

tekan12 said:
Hopefully other launchers can use BB specific apps. I really like Nova!
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nova is the best bro... :good:

Has anyone yet extracted the apks out of blackberry priv, would love to try that keyboard.

jassalmithu said:
Has anyone yet extracted the apks out of blackberry priv, would love to try that keyboard.
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Still being worked on. So far, people have tried sharing from Priv models already in people's hands, but they get errors. Also, many have tried disguising their device ID to the Priv to direct download from the play store with no luck.

Im switching from WP if I do get it and wondering if there are any WP Like Launchers out there that can be used that WORK.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/themes-apps/bb-priv-lg-v10-t3243429/post63708602#post63708602
It's posted in the LG v10 forum, but works flawlessly on my nexus 6p. Love the keyboard

Anyone know if you can get the option to work where you slide up or down from an app to open a widget on other home screen apps?
I really like that option, but in Nova premium it is not available (presumably a BB launcher thing)

thefunkaygibbon said:
Anyone know if you can get the option to work where you slide up or down from an app to open a widget on other home screen apps?
I really like that option, but in Nova premium it is not available (presumably a BB launcher thing)
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Action Launcher had it before Bb Priv. Latest version of Action Launcher 3 is excellent, I'm using it with a Priv, productivity tab still works as does hub.
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