Im new to modding of my tmobile G2, but Im seeing things about updating the radio. What exactly is the radio? Do you mean as in a normal FM radio? Or does radio have something to do with the way the G2 receives cell phone signals?
Also if there is a updated "radio" which one is the most stable and provides best quality? I am running CM-7.1.0-RC1-vision. with Nightly v. 1.86...
The best way to describe it would be the software that interfaces with the hardware radio that allows you to send/receive data on the device.
Updating to a different radio CAN improve signal/speeds, but it can also reduce signal. Unless you're confident in switching radios often and doing testing, its best to flash the radio recommended for T-mobile USA's 2.3 release. I'm using this one and it works just fine for me.
Different people have different results, and really it depends on your location and use case which radio works for you. There's no "perfect" radio for everyone.
If your phone is working as it should don't mess with the radio please.
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If your phone is working as it should don't mess with the radio please.
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I'm all for what Spastic909 said. Messing with the radio without knowing what it does WILL brick your phone. However if you wish to research and ask more questions then please do as I do not want to discourage you from modifying your phone, after all this is how you will learn. The Android Development sub-thread is a wealth of knowledge for those who wish to learn.
Please read through the following thread to get a better understanding of the radio and what it does.
HTC VISION RADIO's (PC10IMG.zip Update Files & .img files)
[REF] The HTC Vision (Desire Z & G2) Radio ROM & Official BLs Thread
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Success! Flashed my 1st ROM and 1st Radio. I know that to the guru's here that's no big deal but it took a lot of nerve to risk my $500 investment to the mercy of my newbieness and potential to brick it.
Now I have a few more in-depth questions for the very helpful staff around here.
I flashed Radio Leo RADIO 2.07.50.27_2 on a suggestion I saw in a thread here that stated it was the best to use on AT&T in the US. I had the stock Radio at first. I am running Artemis v331_0409_WWE which seems very well behaved and has just about all I need less the typical bloatware.
My question(s)...
What is the difference in features/performance between the stock Telstra Radio, the generic OEM radio from HTC, and the radio I have flashed? Should I be seeing any sort of improvements?
I ask this because I see all the radios published for downloading but not much on specifics as to features or benefits.
I am also interested in forcing my HD2 to stay (forced) on 3G and stop dancing back and forth between 3G and EDGE. Is that possible?
I have good signals for both 3G and EDGE but sometimes the EDGE is stronger and it drops down to it and screwing up my connection speed to a crawl.
I know that in the TMO ROM on a TMO HD2 it had the ability to select the bands (at least that's what I recall). Do any of the Radio Gods around here know how to do this or any Cooks know if this is even possible?
Any answers on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Answered my own question
After some creative searching I found an answer to the "forcing 3G" question.
Why HTC buried the band settings in a phone menu beats me. But, I found the answer. I was hoping it would have been in a more logical place like wireless connections, but hey... what do I know.
I'd still appreciate some specifics on my radio questions as I'm not looking forward to flashing every conceivable radio to see which one works if I can at least narrow it down by getting some recommendations for the best one to use on AT&T.
there are no differences between those three radios except for version.when you are trying radios you need to run them au least a day if not two to get any idea for comparison.
Wait, you're getting 3G on ATT with the TMOUS? How are you forcing it to 3G? I thought we were stuck using Edge!
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Wait, you're getting 3G on ATT with the TMOUS? How are you forcing it to 3G? I thought we were stuck using Edge!
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I did not say anything about 3G on TMO, the thread is regarding the T9193 (Telstra), not TMO branded.
Yes, I am getting 3G on AT&T, but its with a T9193. TMO's version has different hardware with a different Radio Chip frequency. Flashing does not change that since it is hard coded in the Radio chip.
Sorry.
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there are no differences between those three radios except for version.when you are trying radios you need to run them au least a day if not two to get any idea for comparison.
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If there are no differences then why are there different versions? Doesn't make sense to me. I'm not arguing your point but I am curious as to why a new version Radio is released if there are no differences. That would be like Microsoft releasing Windows 7 version xxxx12345.0 and then releasing version xxxx12345.678.1 and doing so for no apparent reason.
From what I've read, there must be a difference if the performance is different so it would indicate to me that there must be some tweaks on some parameters. I'm trying to find out what those parameters are and what they affect.
Oh well! That'll teach me to read more closely!
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I've been reading a bunch and I'm kinda curious about the radio (baseband) firmware on the MyTouch 4G--or on Android phones in general if they aren't device-specific. Can anyone provide some good resources on the subject? What do they do, how do they work, and so forth?
Additionally, are there other radios that work on the MyTouch 4G? If so, how do they differ and what benefits do some have over others? How does someone flash a new radio to the device?
This should be moved to Q&A if it hasn't already.
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i'm under the impression that you came from a WM phone cause i know on my TP1 and VX6800 you could interchangably use verizon and sprint and some other radio roms. though this thought has perplexed me as i havent seen any info on radios on the MT4G. i guess i'll sub this and see what happens
Radios are indeed device specific, in some cases OS specific. Attempting to flash to a random radio off another device will almost certainly net you a brick. You should only use radios made for the MT4G and the version that the rom you have chosen recommends.
I wasn't even aware there was a new radio version out for the MT4G?
A radio is flashed the same way as a rom, just boot into recovery and flash the update.zip.
I'm not sure how to fully explain what the radio firmware actually does, but I know its not something to tinker with.
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Its like every freaking time I try to use XDA search to find my own post it fails, WTF. I don't feel like retyping it at 2AM ill edit this post later on when search works again and post it.
UPDATE: For god sake its still out.
Anyways radio normally controls your wireless interface gps, voice, data, wifi, bluetooth ect. Along with power and other memory functions whichs as stated you mingle with you will certainly brick it. Far as radio rom goes I too when first came here was looking for master radio thread as only radio I found is the stock one so not much dev going there.
It seems like, in case of newer HTC phones (such as G2 and MT4G), radio firmware also controls emmc read/write capablities of the chip (don't quote me on that) so most definitely NOT a good idea to tinker with it.
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Far as radio rom goes I too when first came here was looking for master radio thread as only radio I found is the stock one so not much dev going there.
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Errr, has any Android developer ever modified a radio image before? As far back as G1 days I cannot remember any of them touching this. I do know some find leaked new ones or ones from different countries and posting them, but not modified.
Switching radio images is not recommended as it, along with your SPL (bootloader) are the 2 images that can brick your phone. Most people will NOT flash their radio unless its a huge improvement to your phone.
Thanks for the responses fellas. I don't plan to screw around with the radio on my phone, it just seemed like there wasn't much information available about the topic in general, and I'm genuinely interested in knowing how stuff works. Any resources or links on the subject are appreciated.
I was wondering what the best radio for a telus hero gsm phine. My gf is using my hero now and it doesnt allow her to call certan numbers and always gets a weird txt saying new voicemail
Any help would be appreciated. She is running the newest chocolate rim 2.2 I think
Thanks alot
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I was wondering what the best radio for a telus hero gsm phine. My gf is using my hero now and it doesnt allow her to call certan numbers and always gets a weird txt saying new voicemail
Any help would be appreciated. She is running the newest chocolate rim 2.2 I think
Thanks alot
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I've been using 63.18.55.06SU_6.35.17.03 for quite a while and it works the best for me. Keep in mind I am in the Vancouver, BC area.
Link to GSM Hero radios: http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?307-Gsm-Hero-Radio-Roms-Download-Links
I'm not with telus. I went back to 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26. The newer ones gave some problems. Sometimes bluetooth was not able to switch on. Only a reboot helps.
vanclot said:
I was wondering what the best radio for a telus hero gsm phine. My gf is using my hero now and it doesnt allow her to call certan numbers and always gets a weird txt saying new voicemail
Any help would be appreciated. She is running the newest chocolate rim 2.2 I think
Thanks alot
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It would probably be helpful if you told us what radio you are currently on. I'm still using 63.18.55.06SU_6.35.17.03 as well and it's been pretty good. Occasionally I cant get a signal but its usually pretty good.
Thanks everyone. Updated radio everything seems better now
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UPDATE: Seems like the problem is still their. Thought it was gone but loose signal drops calls and voice fades in and out. i am running the latest radio. Does any one have a nandroid backup of the stock telus rom etc. Maybee its a hardware issue
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I'm in Vancouver and been using 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26 for a while now and everything seems to work fine ( I am not using bluetooth though). You might want to give it a try or/and maybe change the ROM. I remember reading somewhere on the VillainRom.co.uk forums that Telus Hero users with a Froyo ROM should use 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26 but that was months ago when early versions of FroydVillain were released so I don't know.
I shuould note, GPS tends to be kind of slower than I`d like. Been thinking about updating to the latest but I wonder if it really changes anything.
Can anyone help to confirm if the radio are 100% interchangeable between these two phone?
in the DHD Radio thread, I see it has different radios include Telus, Cingular, etc. But in in the Inspire Radio thread, I see some radios that are not listed in DHD section.
Just want to know before I brick the phone.
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Can anyone help to confirm if the radio are 100% interchangeable between these two phone?
in the DHD Radio thread, I see it has different radios include Telus, Cingular, etc. But in in the Inspire Radio thread, I see some radios that are not listed in DHD section.
Just want to know before I brick the phone.
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You wont brick the radio, according to more knowledgeable people than me the DHD / Inspire has a failsafe radio firmware that is activated if you flash something incompatible, but saying that afaik the two radios are 100% compatible
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Can anyone help to confirm if the radio are 100% interchangeable between these two phone?
in the DHD Radio thread, I see it has different radios include Telus, Cingular, etc. But in in the Inspire Radio thread, I see some radios that are not listed in DHD section.
Just want to know before I brick the phone.
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You can flash any for the dhd or inspire. Same phone. Same ace board.
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thanks for clearing this up for me. I want to try the latest ATT radio in inspire form for my Telus DHD. Just wondering since I don't see this radio is listed in the DHD section.
Hey i updated my Mytouch 4G to the Galnet Miui 4.0.1 and the battery support kind of sucks badly with the radio i got i guess i need extreme help in finding the perfect radio and spl for my phone that includes wi-fi phone signal blue tooth and battery life.
so im up for oppions on which radio and spl would be best and if you have an answer please post a link with it thanks ")
WiFi and Bluetooth have absolutely nothing to do with radio (baseband). They're governed solely by the kernel.
If you have no problems in phone reception - you're looking at the wrong place. SPL has no meaning, it's HBOOT (bootloader), doesn't matter for your battery at all.
The ROM that you flashed takes a lot of power, but you're looking at the wrong things to change that. You could try some other compatible kernels with it instead, and leave the bootloader and radio alone.
^ +1..... But I would suggest that you update to the latest Gingerbread radio anyways.
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Hey i updated my Mytouch 4G to the Galnet Miui 4.0.1 and the battery support kind of sucks badly with the radio i got i guess i need extreme help in finding the perfect radio and spl for my phone that includes wi-fi phone signal blue tooth and battery life.
so im up for oppions on which radio and spl would be best and if you have an answer please post a link with it thanks ")
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Stop Twittering and Facebooking all day long and the battery life will go up.
#justsaying.
lols thanks but i dont facebook or twitter its sort of a large waste of time im busy messing with iphones and etc. lolss but good comment and @jack_R1 i could have swore i read in a different thread that the radio spl and or hboot has plenty to do with the battery life and what else i said and thanks troby86 thats exactly what i will try
Radio has some effect on the battery life, but it's mostly negligible, and on this specific phone nobody reported any significant differences when running different radios. And HBOOT doesn't matter.
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Radio has some effect on the battery life, but it's mostly negligible, and on this specific phone nobody reported any significant differences when running different radios. And HBOOT doesn't matter.
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ohh ok see thats more like it lols i didnt thank your last post because it was written type snotty lols but since the radio has some type of effect would you happen to know which radio would be best for my phone because the update is running is way to great to really remove
(Off Topic) how do you put the device and hacks on the bottom like troby86 has?
^ Radio updates are released for a reason....mainly for small bug fixes and improved signal....it will not hurt you to update. The newest radio released actually has improved numerous users' signal and battery. Even though it may not help you, its always a good rule of thumb to keep your radio up to date to avoid any problems when flashing ROMs. One of the first things you will get asked when looking for ROM support is what radio or kernel are you on. Keep yours up to date and you will see very few problems.
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^ Radio updates are released for a reason....mainly for small bug fixes and improved signal....it will not hurt you to update. The newest radio released actually has improved numerous users' signal and battery. Even though it may not help you, its always a good rule of thumb to keep your radio up to date to avoid any problems when flashing ROMs. One of the first things you will get asked when looking for ROM support is what radio or kernel are you on. Keep yours up to date and you will see very few problems.
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thanks a lot i just thought that certain radios were for certain updates and etc. but for the kernal part i dont really now what that is in total
As far as the kernel...the Galnet developers have customized the kernel for that specific ROM. If I'm not mistaken Galnet MIUI 4.0.1 is still the Gingerbread MIUI but with ICS framework. So flash the newest radio and do a full wipe then reflash Galnet and allow 10 minutes to fully reboot and settle. Then allow your battery to completely die, fully charge and wipe your battery stats, then reboot and you should be good to go. Also keep in mind that Galnet does not officially support the MyTouch 4G, so whoever ported it may not have ensured the kernel was properly working, but i flashed Galnet about 15 minutes ago, and I see no problems yet.
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It a real great rom is'nt it and ok thanks alot i will try it out tomorow and let you know how it goes
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