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Do any of the ROMS offer more free flash storage than the stock ROM?

I am in a frustrating battle trying to keep space free on my phone. I am to the point of deleting apps I really would not want to if I had the space available. So my question is, do any of the ROMS offer more app install space?
And FWIW, I have done apps2sd, cleared all the caches I can clear, and everything else people suggest to do. Thanks for any help!

Not an answer to your question but out of curiosity what apps are you using on a daily basis? I find that my "core" apps that I need plus an extra app here and there all install usually leave me with about 30MB free space. of course at this point i'm not using a lot and I don't have many games installed(just monopoly). I'm using cyanogenmod 6.1

tlogank said:
I am in a frustrating battle trying to keep space free on my phone. I am to the point of deleting apps I really would not want to if I had the space available. So my question is, do any of the ROMS offer more app install space?
And FWIW, I have done apps2sd, cleared all the caches I can clear, and everything else people suggest to do. Thanks for any help!
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When you say you have done app2sd, so you mean stock Froyo or app2ext?
If you are having this issue with app2ext, then you need to make a larger ext part.
You can also move your Dalvik-Cache to /cache or /sdcard, but only if you have ext part for the /sdcard move to work.

You need to change the partition table (by flashing a custom HBOOT) to get more space on /data, and as far as I know, no-one has done it.

Use good old Apps2EXT aka Apps2SD+ aka DarkTremor's Apps2SD. Read the Wiki to find the link, or just go to Development section and look there. Partition your SD card, make 512MB or larger EXT data partition, and you're done for all the foreseeable future.
How could you avoid reading about it and read all the rest - escapes me.

givathugahug said:
Not an answer to your question but out of curiosity what apps are you using on a daily basis? I find that my "core" apps that I need plus an extra app here and there all install usually leave me with about 30MB free space. of course at this point i'm not using a lot and I don't have many games installed(just monopoly). I'm using cyanogenmod 6.1
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Here are the top-10 space-hogging apps I have (and some of them are partially moved to /sdcard!):
Google Maps: 10.13 MB
Rock Player: 8.80 MB
SlingPlayer Mobile: 8.64 MB
Facebook: 7.40 MB
Adobe Flash Player: 7.09 MB
Twitter: 5.08 MB
Google Voice Search: 4.44 MB
Google Voice: 3.78 MB
Skyfire: 3.34 MB
Google Goggles: 2.60 MB
That's 61.3 MB in 10 apps alone...

I have 200MB in apps alone, not counting their data or Dalvik cache (together they come up to 380MB). It's not about having "core" apps and "rare" apps, it's about having the apps that I want to use. Some of them I use often, some of them I use rarely, but I don't have apps that I never use.

I am in a Similar situation, using DarkTremors Apps2sd. I havent done cache2sd because i am using a class 2 sd card, and have been advised against it.
I set up a 512mb partition, and have moved all my apps away from apps2fat, but max free space i get is about 32mb, after clearing the cache of both my browsers.

Check the size of your Dalvik cache, and do Dalvik2cache if it's under 80MB.
I have Class2 16GB SD card and I ran out of space on /cache, so I moved Dalvik to SD and didn't notice any performance hits.

liam.lah said:
I am in a Similar situation, using DarkTremors Apps2sd. I havent done cache2sd because i am using a class 2 sd card, and have been advised against it.
I set up a 512mb partition, and have moved all my apps away from apps2fat, but max free space i get is about 32mb, after clearing the cache of both my browsers.
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I'm in the same boat...
I have about 32m free with Darktremors, which is actually less than if I move apps to SD using Titanium.
Might try moving dalkiv.
How do I check the size?
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efrant said:
Here are the top-10 space-hogging apps I have (and some of them are partially moved to /sdcard!):
Google Maps: 10.13 MB
Rock Player: 8.80 MB
SlingPlayer Mobile: 8.64 MB
Facebook: 7.40 MB
Adobe Flash Player: 7.09 MB
Twitter: 5.08 MB
Google Voice Search: 4.44 MB
Google Voice: 3.78 MB
Skyfire: 3.34 MB
Google Goggles: 2.60 MB
That's 61.3 MB in 10 apps alone...
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One way to get a bit of space back is to move the updated ROM apps to the /system/app partition, replacing the older versions and deleting the new versions out of /data/app. I've done that with Maps, Voice, Goggles, and YouTube. You should be able to do it with Twitter and Facebook as well--I don't use them and so just removed them from the ROM altogether. You can find details on doing this via a Google search, though I could post my procedure in this thread if anyone's interested.

highvista said:
though I could post my procedure in this thread if anyone's interested.
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Sound's cool...do post your steps & what filemanager your using.

Jack_R1 said:
Check the size of your Dalvik cache, and do Dalvik2cache if it's under 80MB.
I have Class2 16GB SD card and I ran out of space on /cache, so I moved Dalvik to SD and didn't notice any performance hits.
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Be VERY careful when moving your Dalvik-Cache to /cache. It's only 90MB and not used if you are running a custom ROM. The /cache partition is only there to stage OTA's from Google. If you are running custom recovery, it won't be used.
Anyway, I would HIGHLY suggest you get yourself a Class 6 Card or better and move it to SD. It will free up a TON more space and stretch out your love of your N1.

I'm running CM, and it looks like the cache also stages apps downloaded from the market...
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danger-rat said:
I'm running CM, and it looks like the cache also stages apps downloaded from the market...
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Well that's stupid.
Oh well, guess /cache is not a very good idea after all.

Just what it looks like. I downloaded 4 apps today, and cache has 4 download.apk type files with today's date...
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Yeah....I had space issues until I moved Dalvik to SD, freed over 80mb space. But if I remember right, I had some issues when doing this and had to wipe and do a fresh install, move dalvik and apps, then restore. Or maybe that was when I tried dalvik to cache.....which would explain why it was bad.

galaxys said:
Sound's cool...do post your steps & what filemanager your using.
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I've been doing it with an Orange San Francisco this morning, it's easy, just use busybox to cp the .apk files from /data/app to /system/app, the ones in /data/app were automatically removed by the OS.

Yeah, why the hell do you have so much of that those apps in /data/apps when you could just put them in /system/apps which is a different storage.
I could put Facebook there too but i only install about 7-10apps on my phone. Angry Birds being the biggest but that's on the SD card (Froyo A2SD). After all my apps i probably have 170MB free in the DATA. Granted i'm not installing 60apps like some people here but i'm sure if you put Facebook and Google Maps in the system (along with twitter and all that other stuff that come included in the GAPPS zip file) then you'd have more free space. After a clean install i usually have 196MB free to start from.

Rusty! said:
I've been doing it with an Orange San Francisco this morning, it's easy, just use busybox to cp the .apk files from /data/app to /system/app, the ones in /data/app were automatically removed by the OS.
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So you're not doing anything fancy, just copy the apk's? They are named exactly the same, etc?
I'm going to try this too.. Gonna visit the ole nandroid first though.
derp, wait, this doesn't even matter if you're using Apps2Ext right? Not going to save any space in /data in that case.
BTW, this isn't exactly pretty, but I was having some serious /data space issues since installing Dungeon Hunter.. 6.5m library in /data/data/*gameloft*/lib, so I mkdir /system/sd/gameloft and moved/symlinked the lib. Works great. I have a few other libs in /data/data that I could do, but for now this gets me back to 25M free.
Still fighting moving dalvik to SD but I imagine I'll be doing that eventually.

Getting Error downloading certain apps from the market

I flashed the CM7 Epicmtd selfkang 12/13 build today and i am noticing that certain apps that i have purchased and free ones as well give me an error "insufficient space on the phone" i am attaching a screenshot of it. I checked the internal storage at its indicating i have 433mb of free space. Can you anyone help? I wiped data / cache and dalvik 3x prior of flashing this build. The ROM I was using before was cm7 Epic selfkang 11/24 build (BML).

Your phone has very limited space for app storage. You need to either delete unused apps or move whichever apps that will go to the sd card.
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I had the same problem all u got to do is wipe ur cache & dalvik. I looked in the cm7 thread but it took awhile go thru and read all the posts but it was worth it.
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migmartinez said:
I had the same problem all u got to do is wipe ur cache & dalvik. I looked in the cm7 thread but it took awhile go thru and read all the posts but it was worth it.
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Thanks for the response, but i wiped dalvik and cache and still a no go. Its only on certain apps not all which is mind boggling. Any other suggestions???

kennyglass123 said:
Your phone has very limited space for app storage. You need to either delete unused apps or move whichever apps that will go to the sd card.
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Thanks for the advice but do i still move the apps to my SD even though the phone has a lot of free space in the internal storage??

alfalvarez81 said:
Thanks for the advice but do i still move the apps to my SD even though the phone has a lot of free space in the internal storage??
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No. I know what your problem is now. You have pieces of those apps still on your phone causing that error. It happened to me with the ebay app and youtube. You need to use root explorer to search your phone storage for any filename with the name of the app. For example youtube. You may find files like com.android.youtube. or simiiliar. You will need to delete those remnants and then you should be good.
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Thanks for info, but still a no go. I deleted all the files associated with the app using root explorer till the built in search didn't turn up any results. I read a post from another user with this ROM having trouble installing apps larger than the size of the cache partition, so I'm guessing that could be it. Just unsure....
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Yeah bro... the cache partition is where Market tries to put the download and if you are on current CM7 MTD your cache is 25MB total. That's a no go for some apps on the market. You can see your cache size and free space by running df -h in term emulator.
You can:
1. Restore app with Ti if you had it installed before and backed up in Ti
2. Wait for next version of CM7 MTD and hope cache partition is bigger (would require a fresh CM7 install as it will redo partitions (eg fdisk'ing will wipe them clean))
3. Go back to non MTD ROM and get app installed and backed up with Ti so you can restore it once you go back onto CM7 MTD
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codest3r said:
Yeah bro... the cache partition is where Market tries to put the download and if you are on current CM7 MTD your cache is 25MB total. That's a no go for some apps on the market. You can see your cache size and free space by running df -h in term emulator.
You can:
1. Restore app with Ti if you had it installed before and backed up in Ti
2. Wait for next version of CM7 MTD and hope cache partition is bigger (would require a fresh CM7 install as it will redo partitions (eg fdisk'ing will wipe them clean))
3. Go back to non MTD ROM and get app installed and backed up with Ti so you can restore it once you go back onto CM7 MTD
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Thanks for the confirmation, I will do the steps you provided for the apps I really can't live without haha. Hope the next build has more space than 25mb in the cache.
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I'm sure it'll be adjusted, seems like I've heard the 25MB Cache partition was more proof of concept. But I'm not one of the devs so take it with a grain of salt

I found another work around. If you could get a hold of the apk, then it'll install.
I used my wife's phone to download Frontline Commando, pulled it with Total Commander (or your favorite file explorer) and copied it over. It installed fine.
The file was 27.## MB.

Sneezy is right, that will work if you have a spare device.
Or try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20388693
[ROM] Epicmtd CM7 SELFKANG - 2.3.7 [NOW WITH MORE E911]
Market Fix link!?
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ISO more tips to clean up internal storage

The small internal storage is catching up to me. I am running low. I've rooted my phone and deleted as much bloatware as I can. But I still have too many apps that need to run internal and I believe a lot of data for apps, even if that app is move to external, is still on the internal. I do clean out the cache periodically but it is not enough. Any other cool tricks to try? I guess I will eventually resort to prioritizing internal apps and removing the ones lower on the list.
man I love this phone but which the internal storage was bigger or I can take more advantage of my big SD card.

keesio said:
The small internal storage is catching up to me. I am running low. I've rooted my phone and deleted as much bloatware as I can. But I still have too many apps that need to run internal and I believe a lot of data for apps, even if that app is move to external, is still on the internal. I do clean out the cache periodically but it is not enough. Any other cool tricks to try? I guess I will eventually resort to prioritizing internal apps and removing the ones lower on the list.
man I love this phone but which the internal storage was bigger or I can take more advantage of my big SD card.
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if you have rooted you can try link2sd or app2sdx

If you are rooted then have you thought of turning some of then into system apps.
This will move into system portion of the internal space which does not show up in free space.
In effect you have 2 partitions one for the Rom and needed system apps like home launcher etc.
The other partition is where you move apps to internal storage.
Move all gapps there, move flash player, and any other apps that are big on space.
To move either use titanium backup or root explorer.
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zolaisugly said:
If you are rooted then have you thought of turning some of then into system apps.
This will move into system portion of the internal space which does not show up in free space.
In effect you have 2 partitions one for the Rom and needed system apps like home launcher etc.
The other partition is where you move apps to internal storage.
Move all gapps there, move flash player, and any other apps that are big on space.
To move either use titanium backup or root explorer.
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You can't make the flash player a system app; it needs to stay in the data partition to work.
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DdcCabuslay said:
You can't make the flash player a system app; it needs to stay in the data partition to work.
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I sent my flash player to system and it is working fine and it updates.
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heihei_ivan said:
if you have rooted you can try link2sd or app2sdx
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For all this time I had SDMove and thought link2sd and apps2sd were the same when it is not. Never realized link2sd allows me to move those "non-movable" apps to reside external storage. works great and was able to free up more internal space. THANKS!

zolaisugly said:
If you are rooted then have you thought of turning some of then into system apps.
This will move into system portion of the internal space which does not show up in free space.
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Need to check this out, thanks!

try systemcleanup
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What will be taking up my drive space?

I just checked and i have 2gb available????
Movies folder has 1.5gb
Music 1gb
No pictures (all dropbox), spotify installed with no downloaded playlists.
I am confused!
Only thing i did was install CM9 and i followed instructions to do a full wipe etc, could it be that the full wipe didn't happen and i still have lots of old files in the system?
Any help would be great, thanks!

Backup maybe?
Install antivirus it might help if you are infected or something

Tab runs fine, no virus.

Try this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage
It will analyze your usage and give you a nice visual representation of your data.
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Check cache and dalvik. check tmp.
You also could have corpses and orphans in dead directories.
You could have cloned cache files in different directories.
Also your databases may need pruning and optimized indexing.
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good tip thanks

pretty good tab

How to re-size /system partition?

So I'm trying to get BB Apps on my OP2, So far I have the KB, Hub, Launcher, Camera, This requires me to put files in the /system partition, it's currently 2.72 GB filled out of the 2.72 GB.
I'm rooted, unlocked obv, running the stock rom.
Is there anyway I can resize the partition?

easy
Of course you have ways to resize any partition on your PC.
You can resize it using your disk management but only when there is unallocated space adjacent to the partition you want to resize. If there is no unallcated space next to the partition, theoretically, you can not complete this action. Because the function of "Extend Volume" is grayed out. Then you can generate one unallocated space from other partitions. However, you are unable to move that unallocated space because Windows built-in disk management has no function of "Move Partition".
But don't be sad. You can turn to a 3rd-party software to perform this task. Many free hardware(according to your computer's type) can be searched on the website. For example, Partition Assistant, released by AOMEI Tech, has free edition(Standard, for home and commercial use) and paid edition(Professional, Server, for business use).
Banterlel, If it is your personal computer, I suggest you use free version, because it is totally enough.

He's taking about repartitioning the phones internal storage and not the PC:s. However just as you've pointed out, there has to be free space adjacent to the partition you want to make bigger, which in the case of this phone would require to delete the data partition, resize the system partition and it's file system and then re-create the data partition (which means losing all user data/factory restore). Also there might be other consequences by doing this.
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God dangit. Well I'll just enjoy the other apps :/ so long DTEK by Blackberry.
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Why don't your delete Google apps that can be downloaded from playstore (almost every app)
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Nono..only system apps are stored in the /system partition. The gapps are located in the data folder or somewhere else, definitely not the system folder tho.
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banterlel said:
Nono..only system apps are stored in the /system partition. The gapps are located in the data folder or somewhere else, definitely not the system folder tho.
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Not unless you remove them and reinstall. All stock roms and gapps packages install them to system partition

Will do that, thanks a lot, problem solved!
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banterlel said:
Will do that, thanks a lot, problem solved!
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Next time flash a smaller GApps package. The GApps package installs all google apps to the system partition. This saves space on the internal storage (data partition). If you flash a smaller GApps package, you can install the other google apps (excluded from the GApps package) separately through the play store onto the internal storage and saves space on system.

Stock rom bro
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Really dangerous operation, you can use in recovery with adb, parted.
I don't recommand you to try it. Send me the Package you want to merge with the main ROM