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Official Honeycomb 3.0 from Smartbook.de

hi,
i'm owner of the smartbook surfer 360 MN10U, same as advent vega (but has 3G / GPS).
on the homepage of smartbook.de they are advertising this tablet NOW availaible with android honeycomb 3.0
i' ll write them when first upgrades are possible....
hope this post is in right section - otherwise please remove in the right one...
rodnheli

They advertise is it for a week now, but there is unfortunately no download at the support site. I hope that is not only a VegaComb port. ;-)

I would say there is a very high chance that any Vega clone that officially has 3.0 will now have a VegaComb based rom.

Lennyuk said:
I would say there is a very high chance that any Vega clone that officially has 3.0 will now have a VegaComb based rom.
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I cant imagine they would get away with this in EU, China is different. There is no way that they will release a update that brakes flash either, it would cause havoc for the customer services.
The only way is if the company was about to got bust they might do it to sell a few more units before going out of buisness.
Saying all that i wouldn't be all that shocked if it did turn out that its vegacomb based.

DiamondGar said:
I cant imagine they would get away with this in EU, China is different. There is no way that they will release a update that brakes flash either, it would cause havoc for the customer services.
The only way is if the company was about to got bust they might do it to sell a few more units before going out of buisness.
Saying all that i wouldn't be all that shocked if it did turn out that its vegacomb based.
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lets just say (without expressing details) that certain vega clone companies have enquired about permission to use the rom

And when one thought it couldn't get funnier, it does...
I hope that the ones involved in the ROM's birth will be offered a slice of the pie and acknowledged greatly.
Enviado desde mi R800i

Lennyuk said:
lets just say (without expressing details) that certain vega clone companies have enquired about permission to use the rom
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Hmmm...
Don't know if this is a good thing or not...
I hope that these 'certain vega clone companies' have access to previously unavailable sources and are willing to share these with our VegaComb heroes!
In other words:
I hope they can (and will) really contribute to the development of the VegaComb ROMs!
But nevertheless it's great they 'enquired about permission to use the ROM' instead of just stealing it...

Has any company been so devious as to steal a whole ROM???
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Logseman said:
Has any company been so devious as to steal a whole ROM???
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yes a Chinese company selling a vega clone has stole the whole of VegaComb in its beta form.
However its hard to argue its steeling as there are no propriety files (that I am aware of), it would have still been nice of them to ask Newbe5 though.

Lennyuk said:
yes a Chinese company selling a vega clone has stole the whole of VegaComb in its beta form.
However its hard to argue its steeling as there are no propriety files (that I am aware of), it would have still been nice of them to ask Newbe5 though.
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Using a BETA ROM is a bit stupid of them isn't it? Customers buying that Clone Tablet could have potentials problems which that company won't be able to address.

Do you think that some semiunderground chinese company bother about customer's problems? You guys in Europe live in not material world They want your money - they get it - and in same second they get your money, they don't think about you anymore.
I'll still waiting for this ROM at least until google'll open source of android 3.0 and some wise guys make a brand new custon ROM for us all

ive been pestering smartbook for a while because they have allways advertised it as being honeycomb upgradable
they told me their update would be coming out in may so maby they have finally released it

Yesterday I wrote to viewsonic support about honeycomb update for viewpad 10s and they tell me that there is no google license for 1024*600 displays and noone can update advent vega or similar tablets to honeycomb and this is no more than rumors and lie.

docck said:
Yesterday I wrote to viewsonic support about honeycomb update for viewpad 10s and they tell me that there is no google license for 1024*600 displays and noone can update advent vega or similar tablets to honeycomb and this is no more than rumors and lie.
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Isn't the Acer A100 1024x600 and Honeycomb?
Si

simonf7 said:
Isn't the Acer A100 1024x600 and Honeycomb?
Si
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very true?
their is alot of roumours about what google will and will not take. the one about no updates from 2.2 sounds the most odd
i think we need to get someone with a smart book or someone who can speek german to ring up

Google have made it quite clear that they are not limiting their OS to any hardware types, or stopping it from being put on certain spec devices. Android remains an open source project.
Honeycomb has not hit AOSP because google do not want idiot clone companies attempting to put the tablet OS onto phones and giving android a bad name.
They are in the process of building and nearing completion on their next OS (Ice Cream Sandwich) which is believed to act like Honeycomb when in landscape, i.e. tablets but act like a phone when in portrait. Once this OS is out it will hit AOSP then ALL devices can choose to use it if they wish.
As for GAPPS (Google Apps) that remains under licence from Google so they can control who gets it, but its pretty much comes down to cost rather than Google deciding a particular piece of kit is not good enough.

Lennyuk said:
Google have made it quite clear that they are not limiting their OS to any hardware types, or stopping it from being put on certain spec devices. Android remains an open source project.
Honeycomb has not hit AOSP because google do not want idiot clone companies attempting to put the tablet OS onto phones and giving android a bad name.
They are in the process of building and nearing completion on their next OS (Ice Cream Sandwich) which is believed to act like Honeycomb when in landscape, i.e. tablets but act like a phone when in portrait. Once this OS is out it will hit AOSP then ALL devices can choose to use it if they wish.
As for GAPPS (Google Apps) that remains under licence from Google so they can control who gets it, but its pretty much comes down to cost rather than Google deciding a particular piece of kit is not good enough.
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All devices meaning Phones, Tablets, AND Google TV's!!

yeah will be good to see it on tv, i would actually think of buying one coz its crap atm

Hi,
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Its wrote in german what they say is:
they release Android 3.0 at 01.07.2010 and because Honeycomb does change so much they have to test alot!

I've one of these chinese clones using beta 1.4
They didn't even bother to re-brand the rom
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[Q] Microsoft Confirms Lockdown of ARM Devices Running Windows 8

If M$ windows thinks its ok to lock there Boot Loaders, I think we need to petition or start voicing our opinions now. . . regardless the fact is, once we buy any product we have our right too do whatever we want too do, root, modify, upgrade or downgrade, I think the problem with M$ is that they aren't embracing the Future, they are fighting it, an thats why they keep getting lapped by company's like apple an google. Believe me M$, still doesn't get the bigger picture, an i dont know if they ever will if we dont start speaking up now. They are basing there beliefs on an outdated O.S of business. . .
I Think they can learn a thing or two from company's like google and apple
Simply stated DONT BE EVIL . .
Tell me what you think, how u feel and what we should do as a community.
This is my response too reading this portal post article, Good info JERDOG
Microsoft Confirms Lockdown of ARM Devices Running Windows 8
JERDOG'S post http://goo.gl/rq4yw

Ah the bootloader, people have actually been talking about this for sometime. Although Microsoft are demanding ufei or what ever it is which will make it difficult for you to change operating systems, they have stated that it will not be used to force out other manufacturers. Im not sure I believe them in general, however as its a hardware related issue its actually in the hands of the hardware manufacturers. Microsoft don't make laptops/tablets. As far as I understand it although ufei will be required for windows 8 to run, a signed key is all that's required for other operating systems to run. Also its said that ufei contravenes EU law and so I would wait and see what happens.
The simple advice would be not to buy a device that is incapable of the functions you require. Dont buy a car to fly to the moon in. If you want to run Linux don't buy a laptop incapable of doing it.
I can understand peoples frustration with Microsoft but I fail to see when they became your *****. I thought Ipods were stupid at first as you couldn't play mp3's, so guess what, I didn't buy one.
You the consumer don't have to buy what they offer you. The other thing your forgetting is that the Hackers will sort it anyway, or have you never heared of "rooting" or mod chips etc. Any security where a key has to be passed from user to security centre can and will be hacked.

agreed, i can see people getting around this in the future, because when someone says NO there's always another one saying YES!, expect hackers to do their part.

TeaMsTaZ said:
I Think they can learn a thing or two from company's like google and apple
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Last I checked the iPad is very locked down and everyone says they are new and hip. But if Microsoft locks a similar device down its looked at as an outdated business practice. I'd like stuff to be as open as possible, but Microsoft is essentially doing the same thing Apple has done with iOS devices since the beginning.

spunker88 said:
Last I checked the iPad is very locked down and everyone says they are new and hip. But if Microsoft locks a similar device down its looked at as an outdated business practice. I'd like stuff to be as open as possible, but Microsoft is essentially doing the same thing Apple has done with iOS devices since the beginning.
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Just cause people say or think they are hip doesn't mean they are, last time I checked. . .
An Samsung mocked them best in there commercials ツ Just cause apple locks there ios means that they are right or m$ should fellow suit. . . And I believe modifiers will unlock, whatever google, m$ or apple, throws at them , an them trying too lock there O.S, makes modifiers want too do it more, don't forget apple now has to acknowledged unlocked pawned iPhones, Congress got involved an I think they should maybe do the same with m$, we live in times when we remix, an personalize everything just because we can. . . an just because they say we cant. . .
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As it was said many years ago and still exists now stronger than ever
"If Man Made it, Man Can Unmake It"
It was only because of the mobile devices that Apple took market share, their desktops and laptops were good but just not up to par with what we were able to build with amd and intel chipsets for MS Windows operating systems. Now Apple has pulled a considerable amount of the computer market with mobile devices and stronger desktops and laptops.
Microsoft wants to gain the marketshare back with One O/S for all platforms. Hoping to up their mobile device marketshare to even it up with Apple. Its a far stretch but they want to keep themselves covered when it comes time that Apple tried to really put on over on them to keep the market.
ARM is proprietary now but will slowly become universal and open, just give it time and keep up the good fight!

hmmm.. well if ARM does stay locked down, do you think Intel's newer low-power x86 chips will be efficient enough to be comparable to ARM chips in tablets battery-life wise?

TeaMsTaZ said:
Just cause people say or think they are hip doesn't mean they are, last time I checked. . .
An Samsung mocked them best in there commercials ツ Just cause apple locks there ios means that they are right or m$ should fellow suit. . . And I believe modifiers will unlock, whatever google, m$ or apple, throws at them , an them trying too lock there O.S, makes modifiers want too do it more, don't forget apple now has to acknowledged unlocked pawned iPhones, Congress got involved an I think they should maybe do the same with m$, we live in times when we remix, an personalize everything just because we can. . . an just because they say we cant. . .
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I completely agree, just pointing out a double standard that seems to be out there. I wouldn't be surprised if Windows ARM gets hacked to allow dual booting to an ARM Linux distro (Android, Ubuntu, etc). On Windows Mobile there was the HaRET software hack, but it required booting into WM first.
On Windows 8 I wonder if something like Wubi could be compiled for ARM and then modified to get past secure boot. I wouldn't be surprised, its amazing what the community can do with open source stuff.

spunker88 said:
I completely agree, just pointing out a double standard that seems to be out there. I wouldn't be surprised if Windows ARM gets hacked to allow dual booting to an ARM Linux distro (Android, Ubuntu, etc). On Windows Mobile there was the HaRET software hack, but it required booting into WM first.
On Windows 8 I wonder if something like Wubi could be compiled for ARM and then modified to get past secure boot. I wouldn't be surprised, its amazing what the community can do with open source stuff.
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Yeah there is double standard, my girl has an iPhone 4s, but lets keep that between us lol
But I really think its what you prefer, some like camaros some mustangs....
The developers on this site are great . . . Without them, I would be stuck using webos on my touchpad an windows 6.5 on my HD2 ( using SD American Android build )
You prolly right, tablets might come with win8. But maybe hackers can modify it so u can load android like a program hopefully. . .
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I'm on the fence with this one. I think their logic behind it has more to do with security than anything. Locking the bootloader doesn't stop device manufacturers from just making the same device that runs another operating system (Android) nor does having an unlocked phone that someone could put android on keep Microsoft from getting their license fee since the device ships with their OS.
Obviously it's not going to help make the jobs of everyone here easier, but it's not going to prevent them from getting other OSes on the device. What I could see happening in the modding community would be the opposite effect. Find an Android tablet that has an unlocked bootloader, and bring over the Rom from a Windows 8 tablet that has the same hardware.

Leak shows Android KitKat Will Solve Android Update Issue

Just found on Neowin. Android 4.4 may help developers hugely to run Android on older handsets! We already heard Google will release Tegra2 Chipset's code at 4.4 launch. These report also indicate that. Finally, we may see fully working Android 4.4 for our beloved Atrix? :laugh:
Many people are excited about the upcoming Android Kit Kat update, but according to a recent leak, this new version may actually be
a major step forward both in terms of usability and capabilities for Google’s OS.
Amir Efrati, who has broken Google and Android news before, has apparently taken a look at some official inside documents concerning Android 4.4 KitKat. According to him this might be a radical update to Google’s platform not just an iterative one.
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Among the many new features and improvements that it’s supposed to bring, KitKat will supposedly finally deal with the fragmentation issue that has plagued the Android ecosystem ever since the OS first launched. This will come both in terms of support for the update and in integrated solutions that unify separate approaches from different OEMs. For example instead of Samsung, HTC, Moto and Sony each offering their own way to interact with an IR blaster, KitKat now brings an integrated solution that works on all handsets.
According to Efrati, KitKat has also been engineered to work on older and lower-end devices in a bid to bring them up to speed with newer and more powerful handsets. Memory management has also been improved, now allowing much more fluidity and responsiveness even in devices with only 512 MB RAM.
Speaking of those, KitKat also seems to be focused around new lower-end devices with many improvements designed to make Google and its OEMs more competitive in this field. After all, while the high-end markets seem saturated, developing markets are a huge and valuable battlefield for OEMs looking to sell more devices.
Other improvements are focused around Bluetooth and the addition of new sensors: geomagnetic rotation vector, step detection and step counters. These are definitely geared towards wearables, whether they’re Google Glass or upcoming smartwatches from OEMs or even completely new products that haven’t been announced yet. Whatever the case, Android is definitely gearing towards a wearable computing future.
Finally developers will supposedly be able to create applications that use “full-screen mode” which completely hides the navigation bar and lets the app shine from edge to edge. And alongside all these changes there may be some significant battery gains thanks to improvements in the KitKat update which should make many users quite happy.
Hopefully we won’t have to wait too long until Google decides to unveil KitKat to the world, and here’s hoping this info is accurate and the update does end up being a major one.
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Sources for Tegra2 devices would be great. Where did you read that?
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Isn't tegra nvidia property? How could Google give out source code for something they do not own?
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Nvidia released source code for tegra, with android 3.0 on Xoom
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Tegra 2 source code isn't already released?

Feche said:
Tegra 2 source code isn't already released?
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Sorry then! I then might see Kitkat will include support for Tegra & Exynos SoC's support by default. The main purpose of the new kernel is to get hardware acceleration. Without HWA, we had pretty stable ROM. If Kitkat defaulty supports our Atrix's HWA, then Atrix may finally see fully working kernel! We need epinter on board to test things!

saiftheboss7 said:
Sorry then! I then might see Kitkat will include support for Tegra & Exynos SoC's support by default. The main purpose of the new kernel is to get hardware acceleration. Without HWA, we had pretty stable ROM. If Kitkat defaulty supports our Atrix's HWA, then Atrix may finally see fully working kernel! We need epinter on board to test things!
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Thats a good sign....like how windows/linux by default supports most of the hardware drivers....if thats true then we can jus flash android 4.4 without much hassle...Yes i have read it some where can be easily ported to old devices..but no source is strong enough to blindly believe ..lets wait and see...

Interesting but we will still need a compliant kernel...

draxx31 said:
Interesting but we will still need a compliant kernel...
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krystian said the 3.1.10 kernel should work, but if needed it'll be updated to 3.4
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Live chat from motorola support... :crying:
Sevgul: Hello Vlad,
vlad teodor: i heard that android kit kat will support older phones
Sevgul: Thank yoy for contacting Motorola
vlad teodor: i want to know if my phones will support kit kat and when
Sevgul: Have you got an Atrix?
vlad teodor: my phones are Motorola Atrix 4G and Motorola Pro+
Sevgul: that's nice
Sevgul: I am afraid your models will remain as they are
Sevgul: will not receive the Kit Kat
Sevgul: Sorry about that
vlad teodor: but kit kat support older phones
vlad teodor: and 512mb of RAM
Sevgul: Sorry Vlad
Sevgul: You can follow us on http://www.motorola.com for the future news and the updates
vlad teodor: are you sure about this? this is the final statement?
Sevgul: yas I am
Sevgul: yes
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pss214 said:
Live chat from motorola support... :crying:
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Surprised?

Obviously this is more about current and more likely future devices rather than revamping devices that have been EOL'd long ago. Even if the OS will run on the device, someone still has to do the work of porting it, which isn't easy when the last fully working official release for the device had drivers and settings obscured in closed source binaries.

ANT+ support on SIII with 4.3 turn out to be a big fat lie.

Another Samsung fail.
Every news outlet I saw (including SAMMobile) was reporting, all trough past last 2-3 weeks, that 4.3 is confirmed for S3 and listed ANT+ as one of the coming features.
Well it was a lie. Its not there (and will never be).
Samsung really has to get their PR/communications team together. When Note3 was released, they forgot to mention anywhere (spec sheet, news, reviews, stage intros) that it had ANT+ support. That was one end of the stick.
Now they jump to the other end by reporting that it will come to S3 with the 4.3 update, which turns out to be completely false.
Here is the SAMMobile report for example: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/04...olling-out-for-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-gt-i9300/
Extract:
Android 4.3 Jelly Bean update now rolling out for Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9300)
CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS IN ANDROID 4.3 UPDATE
- GALAXY GEAR Support
- TRIM Support (Makes the device much faster)
- ANT+ Support
- Core UI elements updated to the ones on the Galaxy S4 (Galaxy S4′s theme all over)
- New Samsung Keyboard
- GPU drivers have been updated (Higher GPU benchmark scores)
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Edit: Please read post No.10 before you comment!. Also SAMMobile has today corrected their report, see post No.12

come on, not post about every bug, the rom is not complete yet.

dkionline said:
come on, not post about every bug, the rom is not complete yet.
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The rom is complete if it ain't why did sam samsung release

dkionline said:
come on, not post about every bug, the rom is not complete yet.
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Please don't go into an argument about something you obviously don't understand. If you just cant hold back, then at least do some research.
Its not a bug. Its a missing feature. There is a big difference.
It is not something they can fix. It is something that will never be available (as in technological limitation in the hardware). Ergo its misinformation, plain and simple.
Edit: But they don't care. They keep reporting the same old BS today again: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/13/android-4-3-update-arrives-on-the-galaxy-s-iii-in-the-uk/
I just hate copy/paste news.

Not for every function must need an app. Screen mirroring is involved in this.

I think the point is just because it did not come out with the first release of the firmware does not mean it will not be supported in the future. When they get past 4.3 and never had any support for it, then you can say they are liars.

wangdaning said:
I think the point is just because it did not come out with the first release of the firmware does not mean it will not be supported in the future. When they get past 4.3 and never had any support for it, then you can say they are liars.
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OK, which part of HARDWARE LIMITATIONS don't you understand?
Excuse me for saying this, but why do you guys insist on trying to enter an argument, that you have no (obvious) idea about. You want to look smart? You only end up looking a fool. Don't you think.
I am not saying don't comment, but please do a little background fact checking before do. Are ask question first, not make stupid statements.
Let me spell it out for you 'S3 WILL NEVER SUPPORT ANT+', no matter what firmware you put on it. Hence the news report is false or as I put it "IS A LIE".

look on wiki ^^
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oalex said:
Let me spell it out for you 'S3 WILL NEVER SUPPORT ANT+', no matter what firmware you put on it. Hence the news report is false or as I put it "IS A LIE".
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You put "turned out to be a big fat lie" which implies you previously believe it to be true. When did this hardware limitation come in, what info did you learn and where did you learn it?
You don't mention anything in the OP about the hardware limitation, which if you have info on this would be the most important info related to your thread topic IMO.
Not trying to argue, but the thread is a little confusing. If you have the info it would be great for you to share. The only things that come up on google are questions about it and the press releases you are saying lie.

wangdaning said:
You put "turned out to be a big fat lie" which implies you previously believe it to be true. When did this hardware limitation come in, what info did you learn and where did you learn it?
You don't mention anything in the OP about the hardware limitation, which if you have info on this would be the most important info related to your thread topic IMO.
Not trying to argue, but the thread is a little confusing. If you have the info it would be great for you to share. The only things that come up on google are questions about it and the press releases you are saying lie.
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I am sorry. You are right about the "turned out part". To be perfectly honest, i did wish it to be true, however I knew it wasn't going to be. Practically wished the impossible.
I slightly wished that if all these news portals (especially SAMMobile, which has very close ties and inside sources with Samsung), they might know something that I don't.
About the limitation. You are right to ask for sources, but let me try to explain first as there is so much misconception about ANT+, as you can see, that its not so easy to explain. Not trying to hide links, just that (As you will find) the publicly available information is very very scarce, when you search for anything ANT+ hardware stuff.
Most people haven't even heard of the technology, hence all (I repeat) all the reviews you can find about Note3, ignored to mention this as a feature. They didn't forget IR, which is less useful in my opinion. Even Samsung itself, failed to mention it in any of there publications prior to the release of the phone. Owners only learnt about the support from finding ANT service updating on their phone when they turned it on.
Anyway back to why S3 wont support it... I will try not to be very technical.
ANT+ uses the same Bluetooth antenna that is available in the S3 (as with the S4 and Note3 where it actually is available) or most other current smartphone for that matter. However the antenna and software support are not enough for ANT to work.
Let me put it this way. If you have a b/g wifi router. It will not suddenly start to support wifi-n just because you rewrite the firmware and change the antenna. Or a better example might be a 10 year old Nokia (no matter what software you put on it) will not start to support Bluetooth 3.0, just because is had 1.0 on it.
The hardware limitation I talk of is in the SoC (Note: not the CPU). It needs to have ANT connectivity radio frequency IC with embedded ANT protocol stacks in the SoC.
Qualcomm is part of the ANT+ alliance, however not all their SoC have this feature 'onboard'. IT depends on which variant of snapdragon it is. I believe in their case it's called Qualcomm Atheros Bluetooth (yes its called Bluetooth, even tough its where the ANT+ is supported). Its not even about how new the the phone is. Many Sony Xperia phone from 2011 had the right snapdragon chips that supported ANT+ (Sony Xperia Active is a good example).
Now to give a good example of why I am not posting link. Look at the below wiki of snapdragon chips. Go to the bottom for example (snapdragon 800 or 600). It is a fact that these have ANT+ support, yet you don't see it mentioned anywhere: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Why yo ask? Well one of the main reasons is that players like Garmin (who are probably the main benefactors and driving force behind ANT+ Alliance), have no interest in making it as main stream technology as it should be by now.
They don't casue if it was then no one would by their $500 sports computers and watches. As the public would realize that they could do all those function (sports tracking) and do it better and even do much more, with a much cheaper smartphone.

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Hurray, Someone is listening. SAMMobile has corrected the info in their latest relevant news: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/13...gets-android-4-3-update/#.UoNcvUccgng.twitter

What they released is nowhere near completed, and they just using Irish Vodafone users and people like us as beta testers before they release it properly.

Geordie Lad said:
What they released is nowhere near completed, and they just using Irish Vodafone users and people like us as beta testers before they release it properly.
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Please read post No. 10. Thank you.

These people.... just dont read previous posts, do they.....
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Actually I thought I read it does have hardware support and can be enabled by new firmware, but Samsung has to decide to do it. Google "dcrainmaker samsung-mobile-devices" for one reference.
these people...just don't read the internet first do they...

steeeva said:
Actually I thought I read it does have hardware support and can be enabled by new firmware, but Samsung has to decide to do it. Google "dcrainmaker samsung-mobile-devices" for one reference.
these people...just don't read the internet first do they...
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I know dcrainmakers article. I read it the day it was published. He is wrong. No one is perfect. I believe that he was misinformed too. He is a cycling enthusiast, and a sportsman, but not an engineer.
Don't tell me that you thing hr is better informed than SAMMobile. They realized that they were wrong too and have corrected their article (all new one).
These people... Just take everything that they read on the Internet as a fact....
If you want to disprove me, cite some hard evidence (manufacturer startment or technologycal info). Quoting a bloggers suspicions is hardly enough.
P. S.: I like rainmaker, that is why I read his blogs. To ve perfectly honest, I was surprised that he got this one wrong as he has good relationship with ANT consortium itself. However ANT itself confirmed to an acquaintance of mine that S3 cannot and will not support ANT, meaning they had their facts straight and he did not.
I have seen other articles from him that were loosely based on facts. As I said blogger.

How we test this uncle+ to see if it works

Zte funbox

Mad Catz has now competition, with the ZTE FUNBOX (ZTE FGB-T4), it comes also with a JoyPad, but also with a remote control, and also have
a Tegra 4 chip with 72 cores.
Unboxing ZTE FUNBOX Android TV Box NVIDIA Tegra 4 Quad core
TV Box ZTE Funbox test GUI & Games. NVidia Tegra 4

AmigaWolf said:
Mad Catz has now competition, with the ZTE FUNBOX (ZTE FGB-T4), it comes also with a JoyPad, but also with a remote control, and also have
a Tegra 4 chip with 72 cores.
Unboxing ZTE FUNBOX Android TV Box NVIDIA Tegra 4 Quad core
TV Box ZTE Funbox test GUI & Games. NVidia Tegra 4
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Man, that remote come out of the new box all scratched up! :crying:
http://androidpc.es/blog/2014/05/26/analisis-zte-funbox-con-soc-tegra-4-quadcore/
AliExpress 116€ verus mojo 176€ tough call
mojo has the (way) better controller! but the fun has android 4.3 jelly bean..
Good seeing more T4's microconsoles out there tho
Edit: It doesn't come with google play store out of the box lol

gwaldo said:
Man, that remote come out of the new box all scratched up! :crying:
http://androidpc.es/blog/2014/05/26/analisis-zte-funbox-con-soc-tegra-4-quadcore/
AliExpress 116€ verus mojo 176€ tough call
mojo has the (way) better controller! but the fun has android 4.3 jelly bean..
Good seeing more T4's microconsoles out there tho
Edit: It doesn't come with google play store out of the box lol
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I know but thats easy to fix( Play Store), no problem, had the same with my Huawei Honor 2.
I think the JoyPad does nothing under for the M.O.J.O. remote, if you like Playstation JoyPads.

I plan on getting a fun box myself. I see root is very simple, and possible to change launcher, however it would be awesome if we could get hold of the firmware and break it down. Take the system.apk and decompile and write in english. Of course that would mean someone would need to help translate. Also, the latest firmware is able to get on google play store. Nvidia Tegra Zone is also compatible to be download and installed.

It looks pretty good. But I saw the hard disk is only 8GB.. And only one usb drive. And no Sd Reader at all..
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It looks pretty good. But I saw the hard disk is only 8GB.. And only one usb drive. And no Sd Reader at all..
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Well, the mojo might have two USB ports, but only one is useable

Thats true. But at least there are an Sd reader and, by the way, i could use a multiple usb drive on mojo? Android will read it?

Yes it is possible. Has seen anything else as far as english being applied to the gui

English Gui
We need to find someone that would be willing to translate the language and someone who knows java scripting. There is a website that they can use to decompile the setting.apk file and it will also recompile as well. We get them together to work on it, it would be awesome. Unfortunately I don't have the mind set for java scripting. Either way, here is my contribution. Link: http://www.decompileandroid.com/ If we can get people together, Im thinking this is going to be the only way it will happen.

I bought one of this and I managed to root and install a localized launcher. I would like to reopen this thread or open a new one so people can help in customizing this little box. Any interest?

I've seen very little here, but maybe if you get started more will come

jpeich said:
I bought one of this and I managed to root and install a localized launcher. I would like to reopen this thread or open a new one so people can help in customizing this little box. Any interest?
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Send me a system dump ,boot.img ,and recovery.img dumped. I can't promise anything make sure to ask zte for the kernel source. They can't deny you because it's their own in house product.

Finally some help. You just do what you can

Unjustified Dev said:
Send me a system dump ,boot.img ,and recovery.img dumped. I can't promise anything make sure to ask zte for the kernel source. They can't deny you because it's their own in house product.
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I will do my best. When I have everything I will upload it to a hosting files service and post the link here. Thanks for your interest.
Regards

I've been waiting for someone to pickup this device

I am a newbie on android development. I have been looking for some tutorials to get system dump boot image and recovery image, but I have not been able to find the right partitions to dump. In the end I managed to make a nandroid backup online, because I do not have access to recovery menu yet. I am uploading the nandroid backup so someone can take a look.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3cpa8vvlgy9eojc/NandroidZteFunbox.rar

jpeich said:
I am a newbie on android development. I have been looking for some tutorials to get system dump boot image and recovery image, but I have not been able to find the right partitions to dump. In the end I managed to make a nandroid backup online, because I do not have access to recovery menu yet. I am uploading the nandroid backup so someone can take a look.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3cpa8vvlgy9eojc/NandroidZteFunbox.rar
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Took a look if I wrote a device tree I can use my mojo's since it's also based on the nvidia macallan board. Merely nothing at all would need changed except the partition sizes , proprietary blobs ,and kernel . I'm waiting on zte to message me back about the kernel I contacted them today if we can't get the source it would be an issue but not a big one

Unjustified Dev said:
Took a look if I wrote a device tree I can use my mojo's since it's also based on the nvidia macallan board. Merely nothing at all would need changed except the partition sizes , proprietary blobs ,and kernel . I'm waiting on zte to message me back about the kernel I contacted them today if we can't get the source it would be an issue but not a big one
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I contacted ZTE for sixth time to get the kernel sources without success. I will continue insisting. I think if many people is asking for it we could succeed, so if you would like to cooperate you can send an email to [email protected]. Say clear this is a not a MOBILE PHONE, but a Microconsole.
Thanks to everyone.
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You rock sir!!

Kernel Sources
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting ZTE and your prompt reply.
If you are looking for the Kernel source code than
Please check in the below link .
http://support.zte.com.cn/support/news/NewsMain.aspx?type=service
If that model is not available there than we really Sorry to inform you that we can't provide this now it may take more time depends on the technical department.
You can also contact the local dealer where you purchased the device to or network operator to send a request to ZTE so that we can release the Kernel source code because
ZTE is not selling any product to the customer or in the market directly.
ZTE will sell only in bulk quantity to the network provider and to the dealer
Should there be further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
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This is the answer I have received twice. It seems they are not ready to release it yet, so we are stuck.
I will keep insisting.
Regards