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[Q] Does flashing FR008 wipe all my data?

Does flashing this rom wipe all my data??
Will i lose allm y contacts, messages, settings etc???
If so, how do i backup all of this stuff first?
I currently have rooted with clockworkmod and am wanting to upgrade to 2.2 for apps2sd and openGL ES 2 etc
Cheers
Sean

arnienz said:
Does flashing this rom wipe all my data??
Will i lose allm y contacts, messages, settings etc???
If so, how do i backup all of this stuff first?
I currently have rooted with clockworkmod and am wanting to upgrade to 2.2 for apps2sd and openGL ES 2 etc
Cheers
Sean
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Yes the recommendation for flash Liberated FR008 is to do a Wipe Data from ClockworkMod before flashing.
You should sync all of your contacts to Gmail using your Google account to preserve them and since you are rooted, you can use Titanium Backup or My Backup Root to save your apps, setting and messages.

Can I flash without wiping data, as the tutorial only says its especially reccomended if im coming from another ROM.
Currently I only have to stock at&T Rom (with some at&t apps removed) installed on my phone

arnienz said:
Can I flash without wiping data, as the tutorial only says its especially reccomended if im coming from another ROM.
Currently I only have to stock at&T Rom (with some at&t apps removed) installed on my phone
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You are coming from a Android 2.1 ROM and flashing an Android 2.2 ROM, so it is a different ROM. This is not a ROM that was made from a 2.1 to 2.2 OTA, so I think the best thing would be to do a rooted backup and then wipe before you flash. I would make a good nandroid backup using ClockworkMod before you flash, too.

tpbklake said:
You are coming from a Android 2.1 ROM and flashing an Android 2.2 ROM, so it is a different ROM. This is not a ROM that was made from a 2.1 to 2.2 OTA, so I think the best thing would be to do a rooted backup and then wipe before you flash. I would make a good nandroid backup using ClockworkMod before you flash, too.
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What is a rooted backup??
Yeah Ive done a nandroid backup. Is all I need to do is to root with clockwork, then nandroid backup, then install the rom?
I dont need it nand unlocked or anything? Also, is it easy to restore from a nandroid backup?
thanks for your help

arnienz said:
What is a rooted backup??
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A rooted backup would be to install Titanium Backup or My Backup Root to back up your apps, data and settings. You would install these from the Android Market after you have rooted your phone.
arnienz said:
Yeah Ive done a nandroid backup. Is all I need to do is to root with clockwork, then nandroid backup, then install the rom?
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No, I suggest that you then backup your apps, data and settings using Titanium or My Backup and then wipe data as per the instructions for flashing.
Perhaps you need to look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881634
arnienz said:
Also, is it easy to restore from a nandroid backup?
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Yes, when you select the Nandroid option in ClockworkMod, there is a menu selection for both backup and restore. A nandroid backup is a complete backup of your phone that you can restore and go back to if you don't like the new ROM that you flashed. It will restore your phone to the exact point it was before you flashed.

tpbklake said:
A rooted backup would be to install Titanium Backup or My Backup Root to back up your apps, data and settings. You would install these from the Android Market after you have rooted your phone.
No, I suggest that you then backup your apps, data and settings using Titanium or My Backup and then wipe data as per the instructions for flashing.
Perhaps you need to look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881634
Yes, when you select the Nandroid option in ClockworkMod, there is a menu selection for both backup and restore. A nandroid backup is a complete backup of your phone that you can restore and go back to if you don't like the new ROM that you flashed. It will restore your phone to the exact point it was before you flashed.
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Okay thanks I might try this after work.
Also, waht is the most stable release of Froyo (with HTC Sense) for the Aria?
I've heard that FR008 can have problems with the reception after a flash.
I guess i can always flash it and see what happens and then restore back if i dont like it.

arnienz said:
Okay thanks I might try this after work.
Also, waht is the most stable release of Froyo (with HTC Sense) for the Aria?
I've heard that FR008 can have problems with the reception after a flash.
I guess i can always flash it and see what happens and then restore back if i dont like it.
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I have not had any reception issues when I flashed Liberated FR008. It runs just fine for me. I have a WiFi connection both at home and at work, so I leave WiFi all the time and I am very pleased with the battery life.

ROM Backup

Hi,
Is there a way to do a complete backup of the current ROM? I know I can always reflash the stock firmware but I'd like to keep all the installed apps/customizations.
Thanks!
C.

If you flashed CWM recovery, doing a nandroid backup (boot into recovery, backup and restore->backup) will back up your entire system, including ROM, your installed apps, accounts, settings, the whole kit and caboodle. If you're just worried about your own apps, you can use an app like Titanium Backup to back up all your apps and their data and restore them after a wipe.
Just to be clear, flashing stock ROM through odin won't actually wipe any of your apps or data, but it's usually a good idea to do so manually when changing firmware versions, as you may run into problems, usually apps force closing, if you don't.

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teiglin said:
If you flashed CWM recovery, doing a nandroid backup (boot into recovery, backup and restore->backup) will back up your entire system, including ROM, your installed apps, accounts, settings, the whole kit and caboodle. If you're just worried about your own apps, you can use an app like Titanium Backup to back up all your apps and their data and restore them after a wipe.
Just to be clear, flashing stock ROM through odin won't actually wipe any of your apps or data, but it's usually a good idea to do so manually when changing firmware versions, as you may run into problems, usually apps force closing, if you don't.
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Thanks for the info, and sorry for the late reply...
I would be interested in doing a full ROM backup. Are there any known issues in flashing CWM? so far I have only rooted the stock rom.
Thanks!
C.

[Q] Couple of questions about ROM

Hi, planning on rooting the device and installing PA (sticking with PA's kernel). New to this area, I hope the questions are fine.
1. What's the difference between Carbon Backup and WugFresh Toolkit backup?
2. How can I avoid bricking the device?
3. Does the toolkit offers an option to unroot the device? If so, will I have to do something else instead of unrooting with the toolkit?
4. If I decided to unroot and go back to what I have right now (all the apps etc.), how would I do that (restore all the data)?
5. Is unrooting wiping the device?
6. Should I update the ROM via GOOManager directlry or should I download from GOOManager and then flash via the recovery?
7. What do you recommend - PA's built in kernel or Franco's?
8. Do I need the SuperSU app? (PA ROM)
9. From SuperSU description:
NOTICE: A SPECIAL PROCEDURE IS NEEDED FOR UNINSTALLATION. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE APP, DO *NOT* JUST UNINSTALL IT, YOU *WILL* LOSE ROOT.
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It doesn't say how to uninstall it.
Thanks in advance!

[email protected] said:
Hi, planning on rooting the device and installing PA (sticking with PA's kernel). New to this area, I hope the questions are fine.
1. What's the difference between Carbon Backup and WugFresh Toolkit backup?
2. How can I avoid bricking the device?
3. Does the toolkit offers an option to unroot the device? If so, will I have to do something else instead of unrooting with the toolkit?
4. If I decided to unroot and go back to what I have right now (all the apps etc.), how would I do that (restore all the data)?
5. Is unrooting wiping the device?
6. Should I update the ROM via GOOManager directlry or should I download from GOOManager and then flash via the recovery?
7. What do you recommend - PA's built in kernel or Franco's?
8. Do I need the SuperSU app? (PA ROM)
9. From SuperSU description:
It doesn't say how to uninstall it.
Thanks in advance!
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XDA Rule 1, use the search button and try finding the answers yourself first. This is not a covenience store where you can order what you want. Don`t want to be rude but lazyness is not apreciated around here
superSU can be set as default superuser app by converting superSU to a system file from within the app and then redownload the superSU app from Play.
Some advice: learn how to use adb instead of toolkits, look here https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNEEKsh9DfW_LuvfJlEbDsWBeAoe1Q

gee2012 said:
XDA Rule 1, use the search button and try finding the answers yourself first. This is not a covenience store where you can order what you want. Don`t want to be rude but lazyness is not apreciated around here
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I have searched alot but couldn't find exact answers for the questions I've listed here (some of them).

[email protected] said:
Hi, planning on rooting the device and installing PA (sticking with PA's kernel). New to this area, I hope the questions are fine.
1. What's the difference between Carbon Backup and WugFresh Toolkit backup?
2. How can I avoid bricking the device?
3. Does the toolkit offers an option to unroot the device? If so, will I have to do something else instead of unrooting with the toolkit?
4. If I decided to unroot and go back to what I have right now (all the apps etc.), how would I do that (restore all the data)?
5. Is unrooting wiping the device?
6. Should I update the ROM via GOOManager directlry or should I download from GOOManager and then flash via the recovery?
7. What do you recommend - PA's built in kernel or Franco's?
8. Do I need the SuperSU app? (PA ROM)
9. From SuperSU description:
It doesn't say how to uninstall it.
Thanks in advance!
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1. Pretty much all backup apps are the same, just with some different features, carbon lets you back up to the cloud I know, Titanium backup is also a pretty good/common one. Main difference is just the features, check the play store descriptions for specifics.
2. With a nexus device you don't really have to worry about bricking, you can always just use google's factory images off of their site to restore your phone from the bootloader/fastboot. It is really easy to do and plenty of guides available on it.
3. I don't know for sure if the toolkit will do it or not, but unrooting is pretty easy, just go into the system/apps portion of the internal storage and delete the superuser app that you have.
4. Just restore all your apps with the backup app that you picked, then once they are restored, delete the superuser app like i explained in the last one.
5. Nope, unrooting just removes the superuser app, nothing else
6. Doesn't matter, I use the same rom and I download on my computer then manually flash it in recovery mode, because the rom downloads faster that way. Remember to flash the gapps every time after you install the rom though!
7. I use PA's kernal, I have heard some people get better battery with Franco, but I can get like 2 and a half to 3 hours everyday on the PA one, and the color settings on the PA one look really nice. It is really a personal preference though, try both
8. Nope, it comes installed with PA already, don't have to worry about that.
9. If you go back to stock, you have to wipe the data before you install the stock aosp rom anyways, which will delete the superuser app for you. but just fyi, PA uses superuser, not superSU, it is newer and works a little bit better
Hope this helped, I love everything about PA! you won't be disappointed!
Happy flashing

klinkdawg24 said:
1. Pretty much all backup apps are the same, just with some different features, carbon lets you back up to the cloud I know, Titanium backup is also a pretty good/common one. Main difference is just the features, check the play store descriptions for specifics.
2. With a nexus device you don't really have to worry about bricking, you can always just use google's factory images off of their site to restore your phone from the bootloader/fastboot. It is really easy to do and plenty of guides available on it.
3. I don't know for sure if the toolkit will do it or not, but unrooting is pretty easy, just go into the system/apps portion of the internal storage and delete the superuser app that you have.
4. Just restore all your apps with the backup app that you picked, then once they are restored, delete the superuser app like i explained in the last one.
5. Nope, unrooting just removes the superuser app, nothing else
6. Doesn't matter, I use the same rom and I download on my computer then manually flash it in recovery mode, because the rom downloads faster that way. Remember to flash the gapps every time after you install the rom though!
7. I use PA's kernal, I have heard some people get better battery with Franco, but I can get like 2 and a half to 3 hours everyday on the PA one, and the color settings on the PA one look really nice. It is really a personal preference though, try both
8. Nope, it comes installed with PA already, don't have to worry about that.
9. If you go back to stock, you have to wipe the data before you install the stock aosp rom anyways, which will delete the superuser app for you. but just fyi, PA uses superuser, not superSU, it is newer and works a little bit better
Hope this helped, I love everything about PA! you won't be disappointed!
Happy flashing
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I appreciate your answer, thank you very much!
So now all I worry about is the backup - There are three ways I know:
1. Carbon Backup
2. Toolkit backup
3. Drag and drop from the SDCard
I just want the apps + app settings to be the same after unlocking the bootloader. Which option is the best?
Thanks again!
BTW
About question 4, the locking of the bootloader wipes the device, so how can I unroot and keep the apps? Also, should I do a Nandroid backup before or after I restore all the apps from Carbon?

[email protected] said:
I appreciate your answer, thank you very much!
So now all I worry about is the backup - There are three ways I know:
1. Carbon Backup
2. Toolkit backup
3. Drag and drop from the SDCard
I just want the apps + app settings to be the same after unlocking the bootloader. Which option is the best?
Thanks again!
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It would be appreciative and descent to hit the thanks button of klinkdawg24 after answering your questions That`s how we do things around here.

You are absolutely right. Not used to a Thanks button, usually I just say thanks

[email protected] said:
I appreciate your answer, thank you very much!
So now all I worry about is the backup - There are three ways I know:
1. Carbon Backup
2. Toolkit backup
3. Drag and drop from the SDCard
I just want the apps + app settings to be the same after unlocking the bootloader. Which option is the best?
Thanks again!
BTW
About question 4, the locking of the bootloader wipes the device, so how can I unroot and keep the apps? Also, should I do a Nandroid backup before or after I restore all the apps from Carbon?
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Use carbon backup or titanium backup I would say, I have never used carbon, but there should be a batch option to backup all your apps at once. Also, since the unlocking or locking of the bootloader will wipe all your data, including what is on the phone, make sure you copy the backup to your computer or something after you have completed it.
What I do for nandroid is just to run it before i flash a new rom, that way i always have a restore point that i can get back to.
So I:
1.) reboot to recovery, preform nandroid
2.) factory reset
3.) flash PA and gapps
then after you boot into PA, you can restore your apps and data, then if you wish, you can do another nandroid, but I wouldn't worry about it at that point, just do it before you flash a new rom or update if you would like. That way your nandroid will have all your current app data, not the app data from when you started using the rom. That just works better for me, but again, it is completely up to you

So couple of things I still do not understand:
1. You mean I should do a nandroid backup before I restore all the apps? (right after the root)
2. Right now my bootloader is locked. How can I backup my apps + app's settings so I will recover them after unlocking the bootloader?
3. After I make a nandroid backup, can I just move the whole backup to the computer and when I need it I return it to the SD Card?

Help please? These are the only question I need answer for before I root. I just don't want to be stuck without a backup.

[email protected] said:
So couple of things I still do not understand:
1. You mean I should do a nandroid backup before I restore all the apps? (right after the root)
2. Right now my bootloader is locked. How can I backup my apps + app's settings so I will recover them after unlocking the bootloader?
3. After I make a nandroid backup, can I just move the whole backup to the computer and when I need it I return it to the SD Card?
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1. Make a backup after you rooted and installed the apps and data (passwords etc)
2. Use Helium Backup or Appmonster (Pro) or adb command: adb backup –apk –noshared –nosystem –f /backup/mybackup.ab
3. Yes.

I wouldn't use a toolkit (apart from backing up) especially if it's your first time rooting, it's always best to do it manually in my opinion; it may take a little longer, but then you'll know the ins and outs of what really happens and it will help if anything goes wrong.
Sent from my CM10.1 Nexus 4

gee2012 said:
1. Make a backup after you rooted and installed the apps and data (passwords etc)
2. Use Helium Backup or Appmonster (Pro) or adb command: adb backup –apk –noshared –nosystem –f /backup/mybackup.ab
3. Yes.
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1. But then I will have to install all the apps after the root, make a nandroid backup and then factory reset again to install PA rom. Shouldn't I just make a nandroid backup right after I root with no apps and stuff?
2. With adb backup, is it safe to restore to a different ROM than I used when I took the backup?
EDIT:
For some reason, I backed up with "adb backup" and the backup's size is 500MB. When I backed up with Carbon (Helium), I got 40MB. I think I'll unlock bootloader + root, then restore the adb backup, then backup with Titanium and then flash PA rom. Is that the right process?

nandroid + flashing/restoring across roms

I'm having a little trouble understanding nandroid vs. other forms of backup and would appreciate some clarification. I'm running CM nightly on my Fido (Canada) G4. I took a nandroid as well as titanium backup of the factory stock image before I flashed CM.
A poster in the last thread I made suggested if I wanted to restore to stock, I could simply restore the nandroid, but I've also seen people say you shouldn't use nandroid to go across ROMs. My understanding is that nandroid is like having a filesystem backup, which would obviously not react well if you restored it over a new operating system (e.g. two different versions of windows). Or is nandroid more like say Acronis, which takes an entire disk image and overwrites everything?
Other misc questions:
- If I do restore via nandroid, do I need to wipe all data / cache / system data before or after the restore?
- I assume I can use titanium to restore SMS + all non-system apps across ROMs, which would save a lot of time.
- If I'm going from one CM nightly to another, would titanium work for system apps (e.g. all my settings, or contacts, etc)
- If I want to flash a new CM nightly, do I need to follow the entire wipe procedure just as if it were going from one ROM to a completely different one?
Thanks!

always make a nandroid in recovery. i recommend keeping it on your micro sd card. in the event you need to return your device to it's previously functioning state, restore the nandroid in recovery. if you are running an aosp rom and your nandroid is touchwiz, wipe data, cache & dalvik before restoring the nandroid. if the backup is on your micro sd then feel free to wipe system as well.
if you want to flash a nightly or update to a rom you are currently running, simply wipe cache and dalvik then flash the update, gapps and any custom kernel that you may be running.
i cannot answer your titanium backup questions because i do not use that program

xBeerdroiDx said:
always make a nandroid in recovery. i recommend keeping it on your micro sd card. in the event you need to return your device to it's previously functioning state, restore the nandroid in recovery. if you are running an aosp rom and your nandroid is touchwiz, wipe data, cache & dalvik before restoring the nandroid. if the backup is on your micro sd then feel free to wipe system as well.
if you want to flash a nightly or update to a rom you are currently running, simply wipe cache and dalvik then flash the update, gapps and any custom kernel that you may be running.
i cannot answer your titanium backup questions because i do not use that program
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yes, that's about what I have. ok, thank you for the clarification of what to wipe! that's good to know.
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
and thanks, I'll hold out hope that someone with titanium expertise will be able to answer that one

kabutar said:
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
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yes, system/user data will remain. understand, however, that if you perform one of these dirty flashes and you have a problem with the functionality of the ROM, you'll need to do a full wipe and flash to see if this clears the issue before you report the problem in the development thread.

kabutar said:
yes, that's about what I have. ok, thank you for the clarification of what to wipe! that's good to know.
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
and thanks, I'll hold out hope that someone with titanium expertise will be able to answer that one
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Your right on both titanium questions.. However its not recommended to restore system apps you backed up on a aokp/aosp ROM to a touchwiz ROM and the other way around... Other than that like I said your fine
Sent from my WANAM'ED AT&T S4

[Q] Change rom question

I have a nexus 4, which unlocked and rooted standard android on it.
I have backed up my apps with titanium and backed up the rom via TWRP.
My question is if I change to a different rom using ROM Toolbox, will I be easily able to restore my apps from the phone or do I need the backed up elsewhere, does all the phone content get wiped?
Related to the above can i restore my existing rom, easily if I want to go back to it?

gjjh25 said:
I have a nexus 4, which unlocked and rooted standard android on it.
I have backed up my apps with titanium and backed up the rom via TWRP.
My question is if I change to a different rom using ROM Toolbox, will I be easily able to restore my apps from the phone or do I need the backed up elsewhere, does all the phone content get wiped?
Related to the above can i restore my existing rom, easily if I want to go back to it?
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You do not need to wipe (format) your internal SD card so all your data will still be there (songs, pictures, apps on which you have performed backup on via titanium etc).
You should be able to restore your apps with titanium but sometimes there are apps that cause some problems.
And sure, you can go back to your nandroid backup (your old rom) at any time with TWRP.

Dark Emotion said:
You do not need to wipe (format) your internal SD card so all your data will still be there (songs, pictures, apps on which you have performed backup on via titanium etc).
You should be able to restore your apps with titanium but sometimes there are apps that cause some problems.
And sure, you can go back to your nandroid backup (your old rom) at any time with TWRP.
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Thanks for the advice.
So if I use rom toolbox, I just download and install a rom as zip, but do not wipe anything, is that correct?

gjjh25 said:
Thanks for the advice.
So if I use rom toolbox, I just download and install a rom as zip, but do not wipe anything, is that correct?
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I don't know, I never used rom toolbox, sorry.