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I have been learning new things on a almost daily basis since I got my first android phone (fascinate). After getting familiar with the flashing processes and testing out a few roms, I decided to try and get the satisfaction of ripping apart my non rooted original DI01 system to build a flashable rom.
I always had a few problems with some of the roms that I did try. These problems included market stalls, data connection being lost completely (no 3g icon), missing puzzle lock then when you install it back in it acts sluggish and boot lag.
Out of curiosity, is this something that would potentially be used by others?
If so would anyone care to school me on the rules for posting such files?
Haha, sorry but I got to say it. I am a complete newb to this and android phones in general. I have on of those attention issues and this seems to be fitting the bill nicely.
With that said I have no idea what my potential is and how far I will go with this, but I am a very quick learner if the subject interests me. I have tested this several times on my own device but that is only one phone. I would prefer an experienced user from this forum do some exclusive testing for me if at all possible. (I don't use gps or some of the extra features of this phone, they are included but not extensively tested)
It's based purely of stock as I personally prefer the stock appeal with an after market launcher. ie: puzzle lock, clock, music player. It will need to be personalized as it should be considered a stock base with some upgrades. At least for now. Plus it all depends on when froyo comes.
I have included a version.txt that contains more detail but still lacking complete information.
If this is of interest and perhaps an experienced user would like to take on testing, please let me know. I did not work with anyone so I just want to be certain.
I have no idea what to compare this to but idle is around 150mb and best quadrant was a 910 with stock kernel and not using any tweak apps. It actually skips past the verizon logo upon boot as well. Your mileage may vary...
Ok...been an android user from jump street. Rocked a stock g1 for the longest, never rooted. Got a mytouch3g the moment it hit tmobile, loved it and never rooted. Now I have a vibrant even though I want a g2...so i'm going to make the most of it while I got it. I want to start rooting with this phone so I can do it without questions on the g2 when I get it. So I have a few questions before I continue...
1. How do get the 2.2 froyo update without waiting for the ota or the kies manual update? I see lots of vibrant users with it already and im jealous...
2. Ive installed ryanZA's OCLF already & that seems to help with the proprietary lag issues...but it's not perfect. The voodoo kernel flash option within the app has tempted me many times but all I see are complaints of bricking because of it. That concerns me...has there been a single successful voodoo kernel flash within the oclf?
3. Which rooted rom works the best and is easiest for newbs like me to start with? I want to oc this thing so I get its full potential...so zippy file ext formats that dont hose my sd are desired. I take a lot of photos for art projects & download zip files of music from rapidshare, hotfile, etc. while browsing web and texting. Lag has been an issue thus far while multi-tasking so I would like to minimize that as much as possible.
4. Any other useful tips & tricks for the vibrant are appreciated. My interweb traffic is mostly relegated to my phone since pc access is too few & far between. I know pc access is required for most modding/rooting/flashing exercises it's just when I do have access it isnt for more than an hr or so. I dont have the time to fuss over running odin to restore my quasi bricked vibby because I need the phone for work. I need the easiest and most stable methods possible so I can squeeze in a flash on my lunchbreak.
So...i know thats a lot, but if some power users or android pros can steer me in the right direction I would be extremely grateful. I would troll the faq's but like I said this is quicker for me...dont have the time or battery life to scroll through thread after thread without a guarantee that my questions will be answered.
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Tmo vibrant/JI6 eclair/ryanza oclf w/root/2300+ quadrant score
1. There is no official 2.2 for the Vibrant. But there is a leak "JK2" in the development section available for Odin, or CWM.
2. If you flash Voodoo, make sure to disable it before flashing again!
3. There are lots of "good" roms, but it comes down to what you like. Also, overclocking is in the Kernels & not the ROMs themselves. Most overclocking goes up to 1.2Ghz on the vibrant.
4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458 < Full of Tips & Tricks.
Glad you want to jump in, but you need to read around first..
Master comments are well stated. You really want to read all the stickys (at the top) and then also look online at some of the you tube video there enough for you to get the "feel" for playing with the phone...etc. I personally don't you the lag fixes much anymore as the new 2.2 roms are plenty fast and this keep flashing new roms simpler going forward.
I would recommend if you are really going to get into it, to flash back to the T959 original stock rom in Odin, then root the phone (I used the one click version) and then start going from there. I did this for 2 reasons:
1. I start with stock and clear all the old flashing remnants.
2. Then all subsequent flashes I do are over 2.2 roms instead of over mod 2.1 roms/then 2.2roms/ then the latest roms.
By doing this I have only had to use Odin once and then Clockwork-Mod from there.
You will enjoy the new leaked 2.2 Froyo roms.. Good GPS, great battery life, fast no lag response on the phone and generally makes the phone more fun to use. Ignore the scores they do not paint a realistic picture and really only good for bragging rights. Go with how the phone performs
Welcome and enjoy
Hi, I just got my g2 from the free promotion thingy and im pretty much new to andriod. Should I stay on stock froyo or use cyanogen? And what are the advantages and disadvantages?
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I would root it. There are tons of things that are advantages, such taking some of the crapware that comes bundled on the phone, ability to put themes on your phone, and you get added features with cyanogenmod and other roms out there. The features you can check out for yourself, which can be found on changelogs, YouTube videos, forum post, etc. Spend some time, read that roms' forum thread and learn a few things along the way.
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It can be a tough decision.
First of all I am coming from a g1 that was running the latest stable cyanogenmod so the G2 has been an amazing phone stock. It is super fast and the display is seriously amazing. I did root it because I wanted to check out the cm7 nightlies and also the stable cm6.1.1.
First of all I actually like some of the apps that came pre-installed on the g2. Quickoffice is amazing and an excellent ppt, pdf, doc viewer. I did miss that on cyanogen and I also preferred the stock 2.2 scheme and app drawer. However these are the main differences. Everything else is very similar just with added functionality. You can manipulate every aspect of the UI including the power widget on the notification bar (my personal favorite). You can also overclock your cpu to squeeze some more performance out (up to 1.8ghz but I hear 1.4 is safer). You can also use your current data plan for tethering instead of having to pay extra.
But all in all if you don't require or need this functionality, just stay stock. The stock experience is excellent. I come from the G1 culture where we rooted just so we could stay relevant and get some decent speed on our long forgotten phones. That was the only reason I rooted before and quite possibly the only reason I'll root in the future.
I went back to stock to get my quick office back and I really don't mind the loss of functionality (for now) however I do miss the cool radio tuner.
Quickoffice is in CyanogenMod...
Anyway, root your phone and flash CyanogenMod. The stock experience is great and all but so many things just work better with CyanogenMod.
When you root, you obtain so many more capabilities. How would you like to remove every single advertisement you see? Well you can't do it unless you root.
There are so many more things but I just can't get into it. You'll sit here all day reading my post. Just take me word for it and root. You won't go wrong but READ READ READ all instructions and understand them before you do anything.
Yes, it is risky but only if you're stupid and/or rushing. Make sure you have the correct files and always make a backup. I keep them in a special place on me computer. I still have my stock backed up for if I ever have a problem.
It's a fun thing to get into. You learn a lot and will continue to learn. If you don't find out something new everyday with your G2, there's really no reason to have it, IMHO...
Sent from me CM7 Nightly HTC Vision using XDA App that needs a thanks button implemented
Cyanogen is stock 2.3.2 with tons of extra features and extremely stable. Stock is 2.2.1 with a ton of bloat and no extra features. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Root and flash cyanogen mod, awesome decision.
I am coming from a rooted G1 and I got my G2 from the free promotion and I rooted because I can't do without it. Once you have root, you won't ever want to go back. I rooted my G2 in the first 30 minutes that it was out of the box. Only down side that I can think of is that you can't have an inteligent conversation with a service rep. xD
You can get root and stay on the stock software/ROM but I don't recemend it, the whole Android experiance changes the moment you install a custom ROM.
The manufacturer and carrier has locked the phone down so much that they basically own the phone, they locked down the potential of the device so much that once you have root you'll be amazed about how much stuff you can now do on it.
YOU bought the phone, its YOURS, NOT the carrier's, NOT the manufacturer's but YOURS, why not make it so?
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I would also recommend that you check out some of the Desire Z/Sense ports (I'm using Virtuous). They're quite clean in terms of bloatware, but you get alot of extras, such as a superior camera/music player app, plugins (Facebook, Flickr, LinkedIn, etc), and more. You can still use ADW Launcher or Launcher Pro for your homescreen/app drawer.
root. install cyanogen. Obtain FM Radio = win
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root. install cyanogen. Obtain FM Radio = win
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I got mine last Friday and I rooted just to get rid of the bloatware and for overclock.
The FM radio is a bonus... that's sweet.
Does rooting still void the warranty?
I waited until my warranty had run out with my G1 before I rooted it. Just afraid the phone'll break or so and I wont have any options.
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Does rooting still void the warranty?
I waited until my warranty had run out with my G1 before I rooted it. Just afraid the phone'll break or so and I wont have any options.
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Technically, yes. However, it's pretty easy to flash a stock ROM back on if you break something.
I preordered my G2 after a long, rooted 2 years on the G1. When I first got the G2, I said I wouldn't root because it didn't need it. My G2 did everything the G1 did but much, much faster. Then I got tired of not having full control of my phone. I had apps I would never use running in the background plus numerous other things that I just had no control over. Then, the brilliant developers found root and I haven't looked back.
I have a lot of people with unrooted android devices around me and they are always blown away by what I can do with my G2. For me, rooting turned my smartPHONE into tiny PC that does calls.
I have a guy I work with who just picked up the new nexus. He was showing it to me and commented on the GB light when you hit the bottom of a page. Well he griped that he wanted the overscroll bounce back. I then showed him that with root and cyan, you can have both. He wasn't ammused as he is afraid to root.
I say read up on everything that is involved with rooting and flashing custom bits. When you feel comfy with it. Unlock that bish and make that G2 your own.
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Hey guys, just a quick question. Please please excuse me for I am definitely a noob, but I've done some research about rooting and what it offers yet I still don't know how to use it. It feels much like learning how to drive a stick... understanding in theory, but difficult in application until practice. My note 3 is rooted, but I still have no idea what and how much I can do from here. Not to mention, while I'm doing research and trying to educate myself, there are some names and terms I do not understand. Anyway, let me just write some of the questions I have in a list:
1) Cyanogenmod. Is it available for verizon note 3 running 4.3? I keep getting search results that there are while the cyanogenmod website itself doesn't offer it? I also got a Nexus 7 to try to expand my knowledge in this field, and it does have cyanogenmod installed. Now, to my understanding, it runs side by side with the Android OS while it basically strips the device's bloatware, giving you the pure, simple, raw experience of Android OS. If I were to install cyanogenmod to the note 3, how would it affect the camera functions and the s pen functions? The reason why I ask about the camera is because using my Nexus's camera and looking at some youtube videos of note 2's with cyanogenmod, it seems like it would actually be a downgrade from the note 3's stock camera. And as far as the S pen goes, I've realized that I would lose the action notes, s notes, and sketchbook for galaxy apps, wouldn't I? How could I go around that?
2) Flashing ROMS. What exactly does this do? All I can find is that it allows me to customize my phone, but I don't seem to understand to what extent.
3) Kernels. What are these?
Lol, so sorry for such basic questions. But I would really really appreciate your patience and information!
CyanogenMod is unofficially available for the Note 3. Not everything works. CyanogenMod is a ROM that changes the software on the phone. It's a more customized version of Android, and very close to "stock". If you use CyanogenMod however, you will lose your S-Pen and it's features, along with all of the other TouchWiz features of the phone (gestures, split screen, etc.). The S-pen will act as a basic mouse pointer. CyanogenMod is not pure AOSP, it's quite far from it. It's similar, but very different from a pure Google experience. It's really a beast of it's own in my opinion, and is now a stand alone company that will seek to profit off of the ROM (likely by coming standard on some devices). That's not to say it isn't good, I run it on most of my other devices but on the Note 3, without the S-Pen it's just a big phone.
ROM's are customized versions of Android typically created by a developer or group of developers. The features of each ROM will change. A 4.3 TouchWiz rom might remove all of the carrier bloat (applications not likely used, but run in the background and offer little no actual use to anyone). They'll also provide enhancements and tweaks that make life a little easier like a quick-access flashlight tied to your volume up button, or the ability to remove certain icons from the notification panel, a batter percentage indicator in the notification panel, removing the exchange security permissions, or just general speed improvements over the factory settings. There are many advantages to a ROM and once you use them you'll likely never go back to stock. The ROM features are typically listed in the ROM's topic.
There are many ROM's out there for many different devices, so make sure you only install one that is made for your phone. You'll also hear about AOSP ROM's, these are stock or close-to-stock versions of Android, typically found on Nexus devices. The way Google intended Android to be used.
Android uses a Linux Kernal. It's a customized version of Linux. It's the base operating system behind Android. Similar to ROM's, different kernals can offer different levels of customization, however they won't be as prevalent as a ROM since they deal more with the core of the operating system. The Kernal will manage the drivers for all the different components of the phone, like your radios (how you receive a phone signal), your sensors, camera, CPU, etc. Be especially careful when changing Kernals, it can drastically affect your phone, and possibly permanently.
I'll put in the caveat that this is my understanding, and may not be 100% accurate. People are welcome to correct my mistakes and misunderstandings I may have =)
I hope you find it helpful!
Thank you for your response and information!
Okay, so I guess Cyanogenmod for the Note 3 is not an option for me since I enjoy using my S pen (I mean, why else would I have gotten the phone in the first place haha)
Could you direct me to some useful ROMs or recommend me some? The thing is, I had the Motorola Droid as my first smartphone and never really got into rooting or anything, and when I got the iPhone 4s, that's when I started learning about jailbreaking and got pretty good at it too. Now that I'm back to Android and learning about root, I've realized just how.. simple and basic jailbreaking is compared to rooting. So, would these ROMs be similar to tweaks you can get from the Cydia store in, let's say, behavior of the phone?
I don't think I would want to mess with kernels for a long while either, not until I get more acquainted with rooting in general.
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Thank you for your response and information!
Okay, so I guess Cyanogenmod for the Note 3 is not an option for me since I enjoy using my S pen (I mean, why else would I have gotten the phone in the first place haha)
Could you direct me to some useful ROMs or recommend me some? The thing is, I had the Motorola Droid as my first smartphone and never really got into rooting or anything, and when I got the iPhone 4s, that's when I started learning about jailbreaking and got pretty good at it too. Now that I'm back to Android and learning about root, I've realized just how.. simple and basic jailbreaking is compared to rooting. So, would these ROMs be similar to tweaks you can get from the Cydia store in, let's say, behavior of the phone?
I don't think I would want to mess with kernels for a long while either, not until I get more acquainted with rooting in general.
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Well first thing you need is safestrap so you can actually flash a ROM link here
This allows you to create limited size slots to flash a ROM to without effecting the stock ROM. There is a way around the size limitation of the slots, but I wouldn't worry about that yet. Just get a feel for it first before you risk bricking.
As for a ROM, head on over to the android development section and pick one. They all have great descriptions of what they have and what they don't. Personally I run hyperdrive and it makes a great daily driver. Still has enough of the original Samsung stuff to look like a Note 3 but allows you to tweak it much further. There are plenty others, and that's the beauty of safestrap, flash to your heart a content until you find one you like.
Kernals aren't something to worry about yet because the boot loader is still locked, limiting our ability to flash a kernal or a custom recovery at that. Unless something has changed that is... Has it? Did it get unlocked while I was asleep.
I you ever get stuck, search then ask. You might also want to read about ODIN here. since you're already rooted some of this doesn't pertain to you, but is still a good read as ODIN will help you recover from some problems.
Hope that helped.
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Well first thing you need is safestrap so you can actually flash a ROM link here
This allows you to create limited size slots to flash a ROM to without effecting the stock ROM. There is a way around the size limitation of the slots, but I wouldn't worry about that yet. Just get a feel for it first before you risk bricking.
As for a ROM, head on over to the android development section and pick one. They all have great descriptions of what they have and what they don't. Personally I run hyperdrive and it makes a great daily driver. Still has enough of the original Samsung stuff to look like a Note 3 but allows you to tweak it much further. There are plenty others, and that's the beauty of safestrap, flash to your heart a content until you find one you like.
Kernals aren't something to worry about yet because the boot loader is still locked, limiting our ability to flash a kernal or a custom recovery at that. Unless something has changed that is... Has it? Did it get unlocked while I was asleep.
I you ever get stuck, search then ask. You might also want to read about ODIN here. since you're already rooted some of this doesn't pertain to you, but is still a good read as ODIN will help you recover from some problems.
Hope that helped.
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It did! Thank you very much!
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It did! Thank you very much!
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The only option with Safestrap and therefore on newer Verizon Note 3's is a ROM based on stock, so Cyanogenmod isn't an option at all.
I would consider Hyperdrive. Enhanced app windowing options, Xposed framework to get rid of earphone hearing damage warning and never ending reminder about how to clear default apps and tons of little customizations. Getting rid of boot sound is reason enough for me.
Other things on your checklist whether you get a custom ROM or not is Adaware, which you can download on xda to block ads. Need Titanium Backup to back up apps with data, something you can't do without root and very useful when switching ROMs or phones. Lots of other useful tools like Root Explorer on Google Play. If you stick with your stock ROM, do the mod to allow free tethering for Wi-Fi.
Since you like your S Pen, you need Pen Window Manager, available on Play to choose for yourself which apps can run in a pen window. That was one of the big reasons I wanted to root this phone.
By the way, once you find a ROM you like, it's best to nandroid back it up, backup the stock ROM for safety, then restore your custom ROM to the Safestrap stock slot. The ROM 1-4 slots have limited storage so not great long term solution if you have a lot of apps, etc.
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Please forgive me if I am in the wrong place. I am trying to figure out where I should post my questions. First off is does anyone know if Kit Kat will be coming to Metro PCS Hydro life any time soon. I have heard that Kyocera has already released an update to Metro. I had a kernel update not too long ago.
So is the the place to ask for android development on the Kyocera Hydro Life? If not, where? Also if there is no interest in developing for a $50-$30 water resistant and impact resistant phone with a quad core and 1.5 gb ram and a qHD screen and an 8gb rom space and expandable 32gb sd card and I have no clue as to why??? I understand this is no Nexus 6 but it is a cool budget phone and the stock software is rather poor. It works but really I would love just a stock kit kat or lolipop on this phone. A custom kernel and rom could really make this thing fly for the cost. I think as a dev it is really an engineering challenge to make a stock device with some strengths and limitations really show its potential. SO please some dev somewhere try to help unlock the bootloader and give us the freedom to really use our phone!
My second question as a total newb to android development is with all the tutorials and reading it is a lot of information so if I was to try and attempt to unlock the bootloader and develop a recovery in a very easy to understand way I would love some help. know there are guides but I have serious add issues and to try and sift through I will simply get lost. I have had so much help from the XDA community and reaped so many benefits I figure it is my time to try to give back but it would be really helpful for me to get a clue on where to begin and go from there! You can pm me or post here if that is o.k. and maybe others who may be interested could try too. At first I think a custom recovery and unlocking the bootloader would be as far as I would like to go so I do not get to ahead of myself.
So I thank you to anyone who can either help me learn what I need to get the bootloader unlocked and write a custom recovery or ideally a experienced Dev who could take up the cause. I am grateful for any help on this!! Thanks!
Robert
Also a Hydro Life Enthusiast!
Hello Robbbzilla,
Thank you for posting that question, I also have a Kyocera Hydro Life, which over not so much time went down in value and now is discontinued on the network I used (metropcs). Which in and of itself, baffles me because it is probably the Best budget friendly phone I have ever had. I enjoy this phone so much that instead of upgrading to the next best thing, I have bought 3 of these off of people on Craigslist instead. Well worth it in my book. Any how, I am on my 4th one now and it's not because they always break or freeze up, or become sluggish or for any other phone problem, its because this particular phone has been stolen 3 times from me, and lost once!
On this particular phone (which I am using now) I decided I'd try the whole root idea which worked fantastic, however, I am still looking for a custom ROM and Kernel.
So my question to you is, Did you ever figure this out? Or did Anyone help you out with finding one?
I know this post was from a little while ago but would REALLY Appreciate ANY insight you or anyone else may have.
Again, thank you for such a clear, and well articulated question!
Keona