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Noobie here... Seeking some advice post root

Hi everybody,
I just moved from an iphone 3g (which i had jailbroken) to an incredible thanks to at&t contract finally finishing. Hv rooted the inc on my mac using the unrevoked method. Everything works fine (still have stock eclair 2.1 and sense running). Hv installed a bunch of apps from the market but hv not sideloaded anything yet or uninstalled anything (htc sense etc etc) yet. I would really appreciate some guidance from the community on the following since i am very new to the platform as a whole.
1. I dont want to lose the ability to update to the official froyo release (whenever it happens) so will I have to unroot (if thats even possible) to get the froyo update? If yes, whats the correct way so that I can bookmark that.
2. I want to be able to use the tethering without paying 20$ extra per month to VZ (in fact would probably use USB tethering to my macbook more often than wifi tethering/hotspot, but obviously I would like both! ). How should i do that? Obviously the stock app will just alert verizon, right? Is there another app that will work now that i hv rooted? Any special instructions to follow?
3. Would like to optimize the capability of the device by removing crapware and useless stuff which comes with the phone. Hv not yet even figured out what each app does yet. I will use my inc primarily for entertainment - games, social networking, browsing, streaming music, videos, google voice, true VoIP (not official VZ skype), GPS navigation, tethering (when no wifi) but will be OTA syncing my office exchange email account, contacts, calendar as well to make this a backup phone to my official bberry. Any suggestions on which apps to remove? Also how should I remove them without bricking the phone. Is there a cleaner method?
4. I actually like Sense even though it seems it uses up some memory - any way i can remove the useless parts of Sense (since I wont be using USB sync and I am sure some other stuff in sense is just bloatware) without losing the other features that look great - to be honest the phone looks too plain without sense (nexus 1 looked really naked). I would like to retain the look and feel of the sense ui.
5. How do I get swype on this? I played with it when i was shopping for android phones on the captivate (which unfortunately was on at&t) and I am amazed at how great that was! I badly badly badly badly need that!!
6. Any standard add-ons, apps which you would recommend for my intended usage?
7. Now that I am rooted which post-root apps should i install to make the inc more useful? Any obvious ones which you would recommend?
8. The people sense widget is just too much, anything a bit saner which is like a launchpad but without the screen wastage?
9. In jailbroken iphones, you could install lockinfo which was a spectacular agglomeration of all things (missed calls, voice mails waiting, email msg list, twitter feed, facebook feed, weather, calendar, tasks, sms msgs) in 1 simple scrollable screen. Anything similar in Sense/HTC widgets/App store? Just one glance would tell me everything.
Sorry, since I am new I decided to ask all questions in 1 shot. Obviously dont expect to have all questions answered by 1 person but if the devs/users can point me in the right direction, with links and some comments, I will greatly appreciate it.
Thanks and hoping to be a contributor to the android community sometime soon as I was in the iphone community until i just could not take at&t anymore.

1.yes you need to unroot to recieve otas
2.there is an app incthe market called wifi tether that is free.
3.look in the theme/app sectiom. there is a skinned version there.
4. adb in recovery os the only way to remove crapware
7-8 . there are not many apps for root users lile there was with cydia.
also, there are many widets avaliable in the android market. there is lots of good apps in the market. explore.
if you have any other questions feel free to pm me amy time.

jdkoreclipse said:
1.yes you need to unroot to recieve otas
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No, if you are running the stock rom ou will recieve OTAs. The OTA doesn't magically detect "this phone is rooted."

rpearl said:
No, if you are running the stock rom ou will recieve OTAs. The OTA doesn't magically detect "this phone is rooted."
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doesnt somethong change the ctacerts and otacerts?
Sent from my Incredible using XDA App

No. it's also not suggested and is reported to have negative side effects.

One important thing, Install Rom Manager from the market.
With this app you can do a backup of the Rom (stock sense and rooted) you're running now and install others to try, if you don't like them just restore the one you had before and done, you can as many back up as you want.
Also check in the theme section and you'll find lots of themes to make your phone look and work beautiful, this also allows you to get to recovery without having to turnoff your phone and install anything you want from the sd card.
Also, if you don't like some of the crap ware that Sense has, there's a post for removing the apps you don't want on Sense and it tell you which ones are safe to remove.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710009
Hope this helps a little.
Some apps for us the rooted...shootme or drocap to take pictures of your screens, titanium backup, wifi tether, etc.

Appreciate the help everybody! Only thing I am still seeking an answer for is swype on my inc if anybody can guide me.
Thanks

khanam said:
Appreciate the help everybody! Only thing I am still seeking an answer for is swype on my inc if anybody can guide me.
Thanks
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Here you go. I use the red skinned Swype, looks great and works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701198

Thanks! Just realized one more thing. I cant seem to be able to use skype over wifi only. Is this verizon's way of using up my minutes one way or another?

[Q] Trouble with applications

After using the S7 in the A1 version for a while, there is a couple of questions arising to me:
I did the mistake of installing Twidroid PRO which now withstands all attempts to get removed. Even worse, it will start in the background every time I restart the device. I really want to get rid of Twidroid.
Whatever I do, I cant get any QR reader to work. After googling for the problem it seems, that some other S7 users experience the same trouble, while others dont. Maybe depending on the type of camera installed. Any ideas?
Some very basic applications, like Google Goggles, are not visible for S7 users in the Android Market. A few can be found on alternative sites and do work fine, but most apps stay unreachable. Is there a way to get those apps ?
Thanks for any hints to get more happy with my S7.

as for twidroid, root your device and uninstall it once its rooted, I will take a look at getting google goggles tonight and let you know

Thanks for your help. I did root the S7 and after some more fruitless attempts to delete Twidroid, I found the reason - but not the solution:
Twidroid disguises as a system file that resists any attempts to delete or to uninstall. Basically, the typical behaviour of malware.
This makes me even more worried about Twidroid and its "mission".

Removing system apps
Hey Ossyris,
Did you check out:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942166
He seems to be removing twidroid "rm Twidroid.*".
Personally have not done this yet... but I will soon.

Just Root

Hello,
I have some questions about rooting my Kindle Fire that I just recently purchased.
I have read some of the forum posting's about rooting the KF and it's just giving me a headache trying to sort all the info out so I thought I would just ask.
I strictly use Google Mail (contacts/address book), Google Calendar & Google Reader for 99% of the things I do/need on the web so I need this functionality on the KF, I prefer the apps vs. the web versions.
I'm ONLY looking to root the KF to add these apps. I'm not interested in custom rom's (outside of maybe a custom launcher) or tweaking/fiddling with anything else.
What is the easiest (current) way to root the Kindle Fire to date?
- Does rooting REQUIRE to screw around with the boot loader/ROM or anything else that might cause me to end up with a $200 paperweight that I can't afford to replace?
If anyone can point me in the right direction with instructions 'n such please feel free to respond.
Thanks in advance

Need ZTE AXON 7 Debloat list

Can anyone provide a good debloat list for the U model ver 27?

Hey I know this is an old post, but if you're still in need I just made a post that might help you: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/debloat-list-a2017u-t3536687
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I'm working on trying to make a custom ROM and I noticed that there is no complete debloat list for the Axon 7 that I could find. Honestly the bloat on this device really isn't that bad, most of the preloaded apps I actually use. Although I am learning about making custom ROMs and debloating is part of that learning, and I figure someone may find this useful. Now this is by now means a complete or thoroughly tested list. It will be it just isn't yet, so in the meantime feel free to make any comments that may help.
Without further adue, the list:
Browser
Themes
Touchpal (w/ Chat Pack)
Video Player
Weshare
Google Apps
Chrome
Cloud Print
Docs
Gmail
Hangouts
Maps
Play Music
Talkback
YouTube
ZTE Apps
Compass
Email
Gallery
Recorder
Toolbox
Weather
Of course the google framework should be removable and I did remove it but that seems like something that will need testing. Furthermore I know it is possible to remove Dolby Atmos, but I don't know how yet.
Thanks to SuperR for a great Kitchen to work in, and thanks to lokissmile who's tennitive list on his HelsAx7.SubMix helped me start this list ( I also copied that first thank you from him too).
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Thank you so much for putting this list together! It has been really helpful.

Kinanizer said:
Hey I know this is an old post, but if you're still in need I just made a post that might help you: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/debloat-list-a2017u-t3536687
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that's a very good list, thanks

Hola
What on phone tool do you folks use to forcibly remove these system apps? I am a keen user of Titanium Backup, but I find that TiBu doesn't always completely remove these unwanted apps. I understand that if someone creates a TWRP flashable zip with the mentioned unwanted apps, then this is another working way, but seems rather long winded is it not?

QAM said:
Hola
What on phone tool do you folks use to forcibly remove these system apps? I am a keen user of Titanium Backup, but I find that TiBu doesn't always completely remove these unwanted apps. I understand that if someone creates a TWRP flashable zip with the mentioned unwanted apps, then this is another working way, but seems rather long winded is it not?
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you'll root to remove all those apps from the phone and you can use link2sd to uninstall all of them

LifeSupportZ said:
you'll root to remove all those apps from the phone and you can use link2sd to uninstall all of them
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If you go this route, consider "Freezing" the apps for a few days before actually uninstalling them to insure there is not a dependency that is not obvious. Also keep a previous level nandroid backup.
Even that is not always foolproof tho. After intially replacing the Stock ZTE Browser with the smaller Android Browser I found it could not create bookmarks. Reinstalled the ZTE WeimiBrowser OK. All works with Android Browser Frozen just fine, but when I uninstalling it I get a strange SIM issue where the phone bounces between SIM 1 & 2 (only #1 is installed). So I leave it Frozen. Irritating, but plenty of storage.

amphi66 said:
If you go this route, consider "Freezing" the apps for a few days before actually uninstalling them to insure there is not a dependency that is not obvious. Also keep a previous level nandroid backup.
Even that is not always foolproof tho. After intially replacing the Stock ZTE Browser with the smaller Android Browser I found it could not create bookmarks. Reinstalled the ZTE WeimiBrowser OK. All works with Android Browser Frozen just fine, but when I uninstalling it I get a strange SIM issue where the phone bounces between SIM 1 & 2 (only #1 is installed). So I leave it Frozen. Irritating, but plenty of storage.
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thank you for the tip and i really haven't had any problems when i delete the browser, but if i do encounter any issues i know what to do :good:

Rooting: why bother?

Managed to flash recovery and root YB after a lot of frustration. Question now is: Why bother? Cannot delete the Lenovo/Google junk - which is the main reason I root devices. Installed only one app that requires root so far - Adaway - only to have the YB hang for a while during every operation.
Bought the YB out of curiosity only. Find I dislike Lenovo intensely (not alone in this). The YB is in many ways just a gimmick. The fancy hinge is not required on such a light device - it's just a selling point; money would have been better spent on an improved CPU or camera (which is useless). Keyboard is handy, but I find my Note5 serves me just as well (besides being a vastly better device on all fronts). I don't expect anyone will even try to develop a custom ROM for the YB.
Anyway, will fiddle with the YB some more and then give it away to someone hereabouts. If I am missing something about rooting the YB, please let me know.

seems like you should try a little bit harder...just becasue you don't know how to deal with it, it doesn't mean that it isn't possible stock apps can be deleted, at least with help of some third party apps (e.g. titanium) that require root (i personally got rid of those google docs apps, chrome browser, lenovo intro, etc...)
what were your problems with rooting? by now, I went back to stock via backup three times (for several reasons) and rooted it again, which sums up to four times rooting without any hiccups.
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danjac said:
seems like you should try a little bit harder...just becasue you don't know how to deal with it, it doesn't mean that it isn't possible stock apps can be deleted, at least with help of some third party apps (e.g. titanium) that require root (i personally got rid of those google docs apps, chrome browser, lenovo intro, etc...)
what were your problems with rooting? by now, I went back to stock via backup three times (for several reasons) and rooted it again, which sums up to four times rooting without any hiccups.
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Actually used titanium to try to remove junk apps. First time ever with this problem. Even tried to delete the apks directly using es file manager. Cannot so far find out what is preventing their removal (titanium reports them uninstalled, while es reports operation failed).
Root. Posted elsewhere on this. Rooting in itself is not a problem. In fact, I intend restoring stock to see if that will get rid of the hangs that are occurring. As matters stand for me at the moment, I really have no use for root.
See a 12" YB is on offer now. Looks as though the 10" version is history already - but I suspect it will remain a curiosity for a while yet.

danjac said:
seems like you should try a little bit harder...just becasue you don't know how to deal with it, it doesn't mean that it isn't possible stock apps can be deleted, at least with help of some third party apps (e.g. titanium) that require root (i personally got rid of those google docs apps, chrome browser, lenovo intro, etc...)
what were your problems with rooting? by now, I went back to stock via backup three times (for several reasons) and rooted it again, which sums up to four times rooting without any hiccups.
i
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Can you help me out in rooting my yoga tab 2?

suan aimte said:
Can you help me out in rooting my yoga tab 2?
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of course i can help you:
GUIDE - HOW TO GET ALONG ON XDA [noob-friendly]
1st: USE SEARCH (eg. 'root yoga tab 2')!!! it is really easy! 3rd entry should do the trick.
2nd: reading skills are also very helpful: if i remeber correctly, there's kind of a 'how xda works' when you register...it's quite useful, especially if you want to get along without trouble in the future.
hope it works!!!