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I've been following the ics project since after my birthday (11/27/11) and a lot has changed but when it comes to (FFC) it came to me that its not gonna work till maybe after the summer or never, whenever HTC gives out the code bit what's your opinion about the ics for the EVO 4G?
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This doesnt belong in the Android Development section, belongs in GENERAL.
My bad I thought it was general at first. The system will automaticly do it for me as usual.
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ummm my opinion on it is that if they dont want to they shouldnt. It will give us an awesome rom but more importantly that means our wonderful devs are learning stuff. this means that in the future they can use these experiences to help them in work or in other aspects of there personal lifes. so dev on guys you are doing great
Why in the world should they stop working on ICS? It makes little sense.
Deck and Kang and others are making great ICS ROMs for lots of phones, not just the EVO4G.
htc will release the code.. because it is an open source project. when is the question, not if.
ics will come..
Dan330 said:
htc will release the code.. because it is an open source project. when is the question, not if.
ics will come..
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The OS code is open source. The device drivers are not last I knew. So no, HTC does not have to release driver code.
HTC may release the FFC code for our OG's as soon as they sell enough of their newer devices.
They seem to be dragging their feet in releasing the official ICS updates for the Evo 3D and the Evo Design when they said they would, but they're holding it back, why? Cuz they want to sell enough of the One series models before they officially update the older HTC models that are scheduled to be updated with ICS.
Its kinda crappy of HTC to do that, but hey, they're a "for-profit" business.
But in answer to your question, heck no they shouldn't stop developing ICS for our OG Evo's! This sh*t is fun as hell.
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what is the point of this thread? why is that a question? sorry no disrespect.
Yeah, I don't get why a thread was started for this. But why should devs abandon ICS on Evo? Because they can't get FFC to work!? I've been on ICS since the minute they got camera working (around Xmas), and could NEVER imagine going back to GB or Froyo (well, ...maybe froyo).
Keep up the awesome work, all who are working on ICS for Evo.
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scottspa74 said:
Yeah, I don't get why a thread was started for this. But why should devs abandon ICS on Evo? Because they can't get FFC to work!? I've been on ICS since the minute they got camera working (around Xmas), and could NEVER imagine going back to GB or Froyo (well, ...maybe froyo).
Keep up the awesome work, all who are working on ICS for Evo.
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I flashed outer depth express from, which is a great rom , just for ****s and giggles and let me tell you I haven't tried sense for about a year now and if you want to appreciate ics, flash a sense rom and you will see y we won't look back.....omg.....
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I don't follow ICS what is FFC?
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BigSmoke53 said:
I don't follow ICS what is FFC?
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Front facing camera
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Front facing camera
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Wow I should know that, but I've never used mine so I never thought of it. But really why would they stop ics for that.
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BigSmoke53 said:
Wow I should know that, but I've never used mine so I never thought of it. But really why would they stop ics for that.
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That's my point. This thread makes no sense. Ics development for evo is extremely active. Don't understand the creation of this thread.
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Hahaha. Let's see... These devs have given us some of the smoothest ROMs our phones have ever seen, with incredible battery life and cutting edge features...
But if I can't look at myself in my phone with a FFC, what's the point??
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PsiPhiDan said:
Hahaha. Let's see... These devs have given us some of the smoothest ROMs our phones have ever seen, with incredible battery life and cutting edge features...
But if I can't look at myself in my phone with a FFC, what's the point??
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Hell no. I am ugly. I don't want to see myself anyway.
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The evo is EOL(end of life) HTC doesn't have to support it any longer meaning they won't release any source for it as they are not working on ICS for the device. Hardware mfgs may release source for the same hardware in other devices, like they did with the adreno or the devs may code their own drivers. But don't expect HTC to do a damn thing for the evo, period.
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All I'm saying we have a lot of people love the ics Rom but some people hate it cause no 4G. But let me tell one thing about the ics it came a lot since then and like some people who are poor or they don't make a lot of money, its hard to keep up with ics roms when the last two months the biggest change was 4.0.4 which is like starting all over again. Don't get me wrong with the debate about their work, its freaking amazing, but the biggest break through will be the ffc. Closest to that is from a horse ride to a plane ride experience
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I don't think that they should stop working on the ICS ROM's. I went from Sense to Ice Cream Sense to ICS and having ICS on my phone is like having a brand new phone. We don't have 4G in our area, and the front facing camera I hardly used. I am using gummyWorms ICS right now and so far had no major problems with it. There are minor glitches sometimes but, that is no big deal. I hope that the ICS developers can get everything working and I know that it will take time to do so. I appreciate all of their hard work in bringing us some ICS goodness to our phones.
So I recently unrooted my phone to have Sprint connect it to their services. I updated to the newest software version 2.3.5 but, nothing changed as far as the sense goes. It's still the same old sense since like 2.2. And what I mean it doesn't have the theme changer or shortcuts in the drop down menu. Am I missing something?
I remember unrooting my old EVO to see what the OTA updates were like a while back and seeing the new features. But I remember having to install that update via Sync. Problems is I looked on HTC's website and all over googleville and couldn't find it anywhere. Can somebody please help me with this? And possibly refresh my memory on how to do it via Sync. Thanks in advance.
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HTC never updated us to sense 2. Kinda sucks really...HTC even updated phones with less ram and slower processors (for example htc wildfire) but left us with the OG EVO on the old original Sense.
Kinda bullsh*t if you ask me but whatever at this point I get to upgrade in Novemeber, though I would still like to see sense 2 before then.
It wasn't the full sense 2 but it has some of the features like the new lock screen, the drop down menu shortcuts to WiFi networks and such. And the themes changer
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It wasn't the full sense 2 but it has some of the features like the new lock screen, the drop down menu shortcuts to WiFi networks and such. And the themes changer
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Those features have never existed on the stock ROM for the EVO 4G. You must've been running a custom ROM.
Those features came on my evo. I rooted and went to aosp, but they are on my stock ROM
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lbbooga said:
Those features came on my evo. I rooted and went to aosp, but they are on my stock ROM
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You had quick settings in the Notification pulldown and the Sense 3.0 lockscreen stock on your EVO? I don't think so . . .
I am running stock software and I can assure you it does not have quick settings and the unlock screen is the same as my old Hero had so there is no difference. You can download the app called quick setting which will give you the settings in the pull down menu but this is not from HTC.
Oh well maybe I was mistaken but those features are on the stock EVO shift. I don't think I can root since I hot Tue 2.3.5 update
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Yea the shift got sense 2.....not us tho
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Oh well maybe I was mistaken but those features are on the stock EVO shift. I don't think I can root since I hot Tue 2.3.5 update
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Yes you can, it just wipes all data.
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Yes you can, it just wipes all data.
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Oh so what would I use to root it? Unrevoked 3 or Forever or another method. Because for some reason my computer can't perform ADB correctly so a manual root is out of the question. Is there a little bit of info for rooting from 2.3.5 somewhere I could reference?
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Um, at some point you really need to head over to the Evo Shift forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=935
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Um, at some point you really need to head over to the Evo Shift forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=935
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Ummm why would I want to do that? I have an EVO 4G not a Shift. My girlfriend has the shift so that's why I said whatever I did about the shift
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Oh so what would I use to root it? Unrevoked 3 or Forever or another method. Because for some reason my computer can't perform ADB correctly so a manual root is out of the question. Is there a little bit of info for rooting from 2.3.5 somewhere I could reference?
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You have to use HTCDev.com to unlock the bootloader on the 2.3.5 version, which allows you to get root. The only other exploit is TacoRoot, which allows you to downgrade to a version rootable with unrEVOked or Revolutionary (you can likewise downgrade after unlocking with HTCDev).
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My girlfriend has the shift so that's why I said whatever I did about the shift
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Ok then. Good luck to both of you.
I think everyone knew it wasn't going to happen, but now its confirmed.
Xda link with htc link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-ics-update-schedule-released/
I'm not a big fan of sense anyway. I likes me AOSP roms.
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I'd like to know what they mean by HTC EVO 4G"+". At first I thought the LTE version but that ships with ICS so doesn't make sense. Anyone care / able to explain?
possibly the europe version not sure.. that's what i thought too..
Evo Design 4G
It's coming to the Evo Design 4G (which has the same radio and camera) next month or the month after, so that's promising for us getting 4G and a good camera on ICS.
The Evo 4G+ is the chinese branding of the Evo 3D. But, if someone got Sense 4 working on the HD2, I think we can get it working on the Shift.
Just because the Shift officially isn't getting ICS, doesn't mean it won't get ported over.
I'm happy with NewSense.
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I'm happy with NewSense.
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The way sense should of been
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
The way sense should of been
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Since day 1.
still on newsense, HTC needs to get a pen and paper and take notes from xda at this point.
I wish newSense could get some of the mikrunny(sp?) 3.5 sense. I like being able to reduce the number of screens.
But, newSense is my current go to rom for prl's etc.
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I just got prompted to download 2.77.651.8. Does anyone have experience with it yet?
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Aestivalis said:
I just got prompted to download 2.77.651.8. Does anyone have experience with it yet?
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I'm relatively sure it fixes the ShiftySonOfA exploit. I can no longer root my device with that method.
So no point installing it? I can live with that.
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id just avoid it like the plague, the odds of a developer bothering to work on an exploit if it does close the hole is slim to none nowadays since most of the devs have moved on to better phones by now
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id just avoid it like the plague, the odds of a developer bothering to work on an exploit if it does close the hole is slim to none nowadays since most of the devs have moved on to better phones by now
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+1!
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I think if anyone would fix the exploit it would just be to test there skills. and say that they did.
Avoid Sprint Official Updates like the plague . Never take an Update form Sprint till your sure what it is. It's one sure fire way to get yourself into ISH.
prboy1969 said:
Avoid Sprint Official Updates like the plague . Never take an Update form Sprint till your sure what it is. It's one sure fire way to get yourself into ISH.
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Right, just wait for someone to snatch the ruu, pull the images, cook into a ROM and test flash
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strapped365 said:
Right, just wait for someone to snatch the ruu, pull the images, cook into a ROM and test flash
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Like you did today.
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Like you did today.
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Yeah, I figured since everyone was asking about it why not add su and post it? Saves everyone else the hassle of doing an ota only to find out their root exploit has been closed
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Oh god. Not another one.
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Oh god. Not another one.
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Another what? Ota that destroys root...YUPPP
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What? The shift got an OTA? I thought it was EOL? I use AOSP so I'm unsure of the sprint version #s
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Oh god. Not another one.
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Another what? Ota that destroys root...YUPPP
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Sprint OTA's = Bad .
Seems like the update made the speedy more speedy this is coming from Strapped365 rom though
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megaghostgamer said:
Seems like the update made the speedy more speedy this is coming from Strapped365 rom though
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I didnt do anything to the ota other than cook it up Stock odex. I could deodex it and post that too so its easier for people to get in there and do mods though. Its all what you all want. But a debloated bone stock optimized rom dont sound halfway bad. Even though you guys have ICS and all that good stuff, some users do like Stock optimized ( no tweaks and minor changes ) so.....................
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Seems like the update made the speedy more speedy this is coming from Strapped365 rom though
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Run nofrills and tell us your min/max/IO/gov
Its going to be low of course cause its max 800mhz and plus I have a certain rom I don't wanna speak of on my phone right now
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So I was just noticing that as of late there aren't really any more sense 3 roms mainly just sense 1 do you guys know why that is or have developers just moved on
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Although I did see that dropzero said he is coming back soon to update the legendary rom!
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Although I did see that dropzero said he is coming back soon to update the legendary rom!
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The Merge 4.0 is a sense 3 and aosp hybrid. It has all the normal sense things plus aosp dialer, contacts, gallery, and email. This was a team nocturnal project but they have moved on and TNN has taken over the project. I have plans on a couple more sense 3 roms but they are still in the future.
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So I was just noticing that as of late there aren't really any more sense 3 roms mainly just sense 1 do you guys know why that is or have developers just moved on
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The masses seem to want ICS and JB more than Sense,since this did come with Sense to begin with and never upgraded past 4.37(1.0).I myself am a Sense fan,since all the rest of the phones seems to upgrade to at least ICS,except ours,but that being said there is a new OS coming out by Nov of this year,which is Key Lime Pie,but who knows how long this will take to get a source code for that,then you have Firefox OS,which i know a guy thats working on getting us a code for our phone,so we can start on one for the OG,but i have a Sense 2.1 and 3.0 RUU,ill see what i can do with it and see if Aamikam has a few extra minutes to help me with combining them and his rom control.
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I like this, sense is so under rated. Feature rich and sexiness to boot. You guys been checking out new Sense 5.0 for the new One? Killer.
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I like this, sense is so under rated. Feature rich and sexiness to boot. You guys been checking out new Sense 5.0 for the new One? Killer.
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Link me to that Sense 5.0
Diablo67 said:
Link me to that Sense 5.0
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http://m.gizmodo.com/5990214/htc-sense-50-review-better-but-also-worse
It's on the critical side of things, but it's the first thing that googled.
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I have seen a few bits and pieces of sense 5 and used to be all about touchwiz but since my epic died and I've been on the EVO I have been converted back to HTC. Do you guys know if sprint will be getting any sense 5 upgrades in the summer or this year
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I have seen a few bits and pieces of sense 5 and used to be all about touchwiz but since my epic died and I've been on the EVO I have been converted back to HTC. Do you guys know if sprint will be getting any sense 5 upgrades in the summer or this year
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If you have any of the HTC Ones, yeah I'm they'll push Sense 5 to those.
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