Random observation.. - EVO Shift 4G General

This is a general thread, so I'm putting this here, so shoot me... On thing I noticed with a lot of people, they never keep their apps updated.. And it's not a matter of bad updates, it's just they don't update... I think it's funny and then they complain about lack of features! How many people here do that? Haha
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Lol, I constantly update mines.
Evo SHIFT

I update mine all the time, but my mom, sister, dad and handful of friends never update theirs and I always tell them.. "that's why your facebook app 'sucks'"

southernstyle said:
I update mine all the time, but my mom, sister, dad and handful of friends never update theirs and I always tell them.. "that's why your facebook app 'sucks'"
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Haha, my gf is the same way
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Mines updated daily or at least checked for updates, my gf never updates and it drives me crazy lol
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My wifey too. Says she hates learning new features or having the popup changelogs. When she's not looking I update em for her
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yeah my dad made me root his phone, and installed mikrom on it, but then i got a shift also, and it was 2.3.3 and he just switched with me without caring about root. haha

thronnos said:
This is a general thread, so I'm putting this here, so shoot me... On thing I noticed with a lot of people, they never keep their apps updated.. And it's not a matter of bad updates, it's just they don't update... I think it's funny and then they complain about lack of features! How many people here do that? Haha
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I generally set mine to check for updates automatically, and ask before installing . But most people I come across that do not update say " it's because I'm used to it the way it is" . They either do not want to have to learn something new, or they do not want to change the set up. They basically don't want to leave their comfort zone.

I've got mixed feelings about updates. I flash different versions so often I enevetably get the most current roms but I like to see a changelog first if I'm just at the my Apps screen. If there is nothing that makes me want to update then I stick with what I have for good reason. I hate Pandora now because it got worse with every update. Vplayer was once free but they snuck an expiration in with an update. Facebook has always been a hopes raiser and then a let down until this recent format they have now. It still sucks just not as bad. Tubemate and craigslist update so darn often I delete them until I need to use them. Figure that way it really feels like an update and I got to skip a few things they broke fixing something else.
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yamaford said:
I've got mixed feelings about updates. I flash different versions so often I enevetably get the most current roms but I like to see a changelog first if I'm just at the my Apps screen. If there is nothing that makes me want to update then I stick with what I have for good reason. I hate Pandora now because it got worse with every update. Vplayer was once free but they snuck an expiration in with an update. Facebook has always been a hopes raiser and then a let down until this recent format they have now. It still sucks just not as bad. Tubemate and craigslist update so darn often I delete them until I need to use them. Figure that way it really feels like an update and I got to skip a few things they broke fixing something else.
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Yeah tubemate has frequent updates, mostly because youtube is making it harder for them to download from it, and since it keeps getting removed from the market for youtube terms of service violations, every time there is an update, they change the apps internal name. This makes it install two different versions, and we have to go find the old one in settings and uninstall it, which is a pain. Oh well, the app is amazing enough to deserve it. It has had so many updates, that I've never had it not correctly work.

linuxman008 said:
Yeah tubemate has frequent updates, mostly because youtube is making it harder for them to download from it, and since it keeps getting removed from the market for youtube terms of service violations, every time there is an update, they change the apps internal name. This makes it install two different versions, and we have to go find the old one in settings and uninstall it, which is a pain. Oh well, the app is amazing enough to deserve it. It has had so many updates, that I've never had it not correctly work.
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Thanks for this, it explains a lot.
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Protected apps missing DI18

Since I manually updated to DI18 protected apps are missing from the market. Is there anyway to fix this besides waiting?
I'm running stock.
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Which protected apps are you looking for?
Specifically nightringer and pocket blu.
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nothin for me either..know of any other protected apps?
I posted about this on the Help section of the Market. They should have it fixed today or tomorrow.
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Since I manually updated to DI18 protected apps are missing from the market. Is there anyway to fix this besides waiting?
I'm running stock.
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I'm missing Blackmoon AttachSave, and someone else posted in a different thread they were missing Legends Arcana
mattallica76 said:
I posted about this on the Help section of the Market. They should have it fixed today or tomorrow.
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Here is the thread on the Google Help forum. They monitor it pretty well. If everyone comments on the thread it will keep it towards the top of their list and they might fix it faster.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=5beec9bb642f0e10&hl=en
Thanks. I commented on the thread, hopefully it gets fixed soon.
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yea I noticed that there are about 3 apps that I can no longer access, although my buddy's captivate has no problem finding them.
This is still a HUGE ****ing problem. What the hell is going on? I've counted 6 apps I've tried to find in the market now but can't...
One of the people in the Google thread was saying they could now reach their desired protected app. Still no joy for me though (trying to download the ESPN Radio app and an app for my bank.) Very frustrating.
The whole marketplace access model seems kind of odd even though I kind of understand why it's there. But it seems there should be a better way to handle it, especially for larger partners/OEMs with a higher volume of updates. I haven't followed it closely enough, but I wonder if WP7's market will handle the process the same way. They've certainly thought through the overall OS update process much better (i.e., putting carrier/OEM software additions into a walled off silo.)
So what must be it...
I've been trying to figure out why I haven't been able to find Paypal or Blackboard Mobile Learn on the market for the last couple of days. I guess those fall under protected apps as well then?
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I've been trying to figure out why I haven't been able to find Paypal or Blackboard Mobile Learn on the market for the last couple of days. I guess those fall under protected apps as well then?
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No go for me either, no paypal, fandango, nothing.
This happened with the DI07 update.
Give it few days and you should see those protected app appear.
errrrrr.....this is really annoying...i just want one app and is the only one i can't find...
pure calendar
Seems to be working now (at least, I was able to find the ESPN radio app that wasn't available earlier.)
Yep fixed, I see my missing paid apps now
Working for me too. I hope they coordinate better next time.
Agreed. It's finally fixed.
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[Q] Security for Android

OK, I did search for this before I posted so I hope I don't get anybody mad for starting a new thread if this has been covered.
Regarding security threats and android phones. I did see the thread about a malware program out of Russia affecting android phones (installed via a movie program?). But in general, security issues do not seem to be a big issue.
The other threads I've found seem to have conflicting opinions.
So my question(s) is, how much do you all worry about security issues? Does anybody use Lookout (free mobile security app)? I did see that it has high ratings on the market, but I put more stock in what this community has for opinions than the market users.
Again, if this has been covered to death and I missed it, I apologize.
I do have concerns over security and therefore really don't install many apps. Since I have had an android phone, my gmail account has been compromised once, allowing spam to be sent from my gmail account and also spam to be placed on my Blogger site. While I cannot be certain it was something on my phone that allowed this, I rarely use my computer to access any of my Google apps. I also had never had issues with any email or other accounts being compromised for as long as I've had a computer. I also rarely get spam. So while I can't be certain, the fact it showed my account being logged into by a mobile device in Malaysia makes me very suspicious.
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Thanks for the reply. I take it you haven't used Lookout or any of the other security apps?
Lookout looks legit, but I am a little skeptical. Guess I'll wait and see if I get any other responses before I do anything with it.
I haven't tried it in the past, as I'm skeptical too. I went ahead and installed it though after my post just to see. It is now being installed by some of the carriers by default apparently and I guess has won some awards, so hopefully it's been poked at a bit by people to where it itself isn't a large threat. Figure if it doesn't impact performance a lot there can't be any harm in trying it. Now, as for how effective it really is, I'd imagine that's something many people will never know.
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Again, thanks for your input.
Performance impact is basically what I was worried about. I actually installed it the other day but when I realized it was on ALL the time, I uninstalled it before really giving it a chance.
I guess it's worth a shot. I'll install it again tonight and run a couple before and after quadrant benchmarks to see how much of an impact.
If I don't get anybody else posting here, I'll still post my experience in a couple/few days, so if you're interested, check back later in the week.
Thanks dpeeps, have a good one.
Paranoid much?
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Eric_1966_FXE said:
Thanks for the reply. I take it you haven't used Lookout or any of the other security apps?
Lookout looks legit, but I am a little skeptical. Guess I'll wait and see if I get any other responses before I do anything with it.
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seriously? lookout is featured in a Droid commercial for verizon. (i think its verizon anyhow)
i use it, i really haven't noticed any effect on the performance.
Vandelay007 said:
Paranoid much?
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Not paranoid .... just cautious.
There is so much good information on this site that when I search for something that sounds too good (for free), and I can't find anything, yes, I'm going to "err on the side of caution".
ngholson, thanks for the input.
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ngholson, thanks for the input.
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you are welcome. i use it mostly for the lost feature. if i lose it i can activate the gps and locate it that way, and i can also make it scream (caution this is really loud, and the only way to stop it is a battery pull) if it is somewhere close to me. it is very effective.
EDIT: they changed the scream feature, now it will scream for 1 minute and you can stop it by turning the volume down on the phone.

Just received new market

I'm not sure if I'm late to the party or early, but I just got the new market on my totally stock, gingerbread g2, woot!
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Funny, I just got the new market pushed to my phone today as well. Running a Desire Z on ATT with CM 7.1... Weird thing is, I have never gotten any market updates in the past...
my market updated after the first launch of the app when i flashed the rooted 2.3 release today.
Market now looks suspiciously similar to a windoz mobile layout ..
hmmmm
I'm honestly not a fan of the new Market. I find that the application is slow/heavy to use... The other one I good just blaze through this one seems like I have to wait.
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I'm honestly not a fan of the new Market. I find that the application is slow/heavy to use... The other one I good just blaze through this one seems like I have to wait.
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Agreed. Plus on other devices like the Nook Color (Encore) it has caused all kinds of problem getting access to certain applications. Device restrictions based on requirements has really sucked.
It's just buggy. I updated an app this morning and it still says update, and sometimes the update button doesn't show up at all.
The updated market needs an update.
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Just got it today as well, I like it, the old one look so plain
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Were not saying it's not. Were just identifying flaws in it's performance. It's not as smooth scrolling or even loading information/pictures fast as it did with the older version.
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Just got it today as well, I like it, the old one look so plain
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fluxgfx said:
I'm honestly not a fan of the new Market. I find that the application is slow/heavy to use... The other one I good just blaze through this one seems like I have to wait.
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This one seems just as quick to me. The first boot takes a bit but its good after the first launch.
I didn't like the market the first time I got but now its grown on me. I thought it was so slow.
Now I cant live without it.
You'll all get use to it, don't worry.
Dave
I'm just using it cause I don't have a choice. My alternative at the moment is to push my app from the online store instead.
Hopefully there will be an other update shortly to address the latency issues and FC that are still quite frequent with it.
Got it pushed to me weeks ago. HATED it at first but have forced myself to like it since were not gonna have any choice but to use it. One thing that is a huge new improvement, is the "new" top free and paid. Cause as we all know the top lists never ever change and are always gonna have facebook google maps and gmail on top. With the "new" sections, you get to see popular apps that now don't have to have over 50000000 downloads to get some exposure
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Ummm does this worry anyone else?

I've been up late tonight, and just so happened to stumble across this article over at AndroidPolice. Figured it might interest some people here since it includes our phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...e-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/
Here's the thing, though. They recommend uninstalling the offending apk immediately, which I tried.....Unfortunately that gives me repeated force closes over and over and over while the system tries to run it, to the point where I had to restore to a backup. So what do we do about this?
UPDATE: You can remove HTCloggers.apk...all you have to do is restart afterwards.
Evo4gLI said:
I've been up late tonight, and just so happened to stumble across this article over at AndroidPolice. Figured it might interest some people here since it includes our phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...e-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/
Here's the thing, though. They recommend uninstalling the offending apk immediately, which I tried.....Unfortunately that gives me repeated force closes over and over and over while the system tries to run it, to the point where I had to restore to a backup. So what do we do about this?
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Yes and no.
Yes because so many users run Sense.
No because I run AOSP.
Frankly, I wonder how many other serious flaws there are.
I can name several apps that want their hands on permissions they have no business in [Facebook for one]
Its like 1984 for sure. There's an article in the new section here at xda that talks about some of the other vulnerabilities as well.
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Thanks for sharing. Another reason why we root our phones
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Many devs remove these programs and such to remove ciq. I can't find the thread right now, but it reads just about everything. It's so deeply imbedded into the framework.
It reads every button you press on your keyboard.
Every text you send and receive.
Every app you use and download.
The pages you browse on using the internet browser.
It even goes as far to read any spot on your screen that you touch.
This is spyware to the extreme. Sprint and HTC will say its not "spyware" and say its used only for marketing to determine how phones are being used to further develop for the current trends in smartphones. It's very possible they could steal personal info with this. Is it currently happening? Uhh...probably not, but there will still be a lot of paranoia about it.
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Sounds like a really good reason to stay with AOSP to me...
very True Haha
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Some of us haven't forgotten the XCP rootkit that was on some Sony BMG titles in 2005... hope HTC doesnt suffer a similar demise like Sony eventually has of late.
This has been removed from MikG.
This is exactly why I'm AOSP. (that and sub-100MB ROM files)
I read the article too- (I have an Androidpolice/Android Central) feed in my Pulse reader....
I already knew CIQ and such were slimy embedded spyware...but the Treve app- spotted stuff I hadnt deleted already... Sprint sent me a "letter" about bandwidth usage and We-KNOW-what-Your-Doing" ----
I'm not amused by HTC/Sprint's collusion... leaving our bottoms out there in the cold for anyone to do whatever with.....
I bet even money my phones been cloned... sometimes I can't use it for calls .. recently -and I'd not had a single missed call or problem in a year.
I'm not a happy camper.. worried about my credit card #'s and really really am annoyed by HTC sliming us this way...
to the tune- that it'll be an icey cold day in hell before I'd consider buying another HTC phone for anyone in my family- (my family has 3 Evo 4g)...
We are not amused.....
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Sounds like a really good reason to stay with AOSP to me...
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AMEN
it appears to me that this file has already been removed from MikFroyo. At least, I can't find it...
BTW, you can just remove it using TIbackup, but you'll have to restart to get rid of the repeated force closes. Simple fix, and I've done the same for CarrierIQ as well.
It was removed from sprint lovers rom as well... I couldnt find it at least
I removed HtcLoggers.apk from mine and after rebooting (force close loop) it seems to be working fine. However, is there an old log file still on the phone that can be read by some Spyware app that needs to be removed or does all this data need to come from the logger app itself? If there still is a log, I'm sure it has enough info to still steal my ESN and other stuff.
Wow! Glad I run custom ROMS

NFL Mobile + root = no go???

So as some of you may already know, the latest update for the NFL Mobile app (came out this morning I think) has officially killed its functionality with rooted (or "non stock Android") devices. A story on Android Police can be see here.
At any rate, I saw a recent post on a GSIII forum (here)where the user claimed to have a workaround which, among other things, involved renaming the superuser.apk, however if you're using CM nowadays then you'll know there really isn't a separate apk - instead it is now integrated into the rom. That being said, does anyone have any idea similar to this that might work for tricking the app into thinking it isn't running on a rooted unit? I have no clue myself, but seeing as how no one has started a dedicated thread for this in the forum of the current Google flagship phone, I thought I'd get things started.
Thanks in advance people!
Well I guess it looks like no one has any ideas...? Oh well, a rare swing-and-a-miss for solutions in the xda community
A quick fix would be to just find the apk for an older version and install that one. That's what I'm currently trying to do, there's no reason for then to block us from using it just because we're rooted.
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Kyle C said:
A quick fix would be to just find the apk for an older version and install that one. That's what I'm currently trying to do, there's no reason for then to block us from using it just because we're rooted.
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Well yeah, I mean I already uninstalled and then restored a backed up version of the app using Titanium Backup. The problem is - and if you've been a user of the NFL apps over the last year or two then you'll know this - that the NFL app is not like most apps where each upgrade just adds some incremental upgrades or changes. With this app the upgrades are typically pushed out right before the start of the key timeframes of the NFL season: usually an update right before preseason; another before the start of the regular season; another at the start of the playoffs; another right before the Super Bowl; and once more right before the draft in April. Each update is specific to that time period of the season and usually contains the critical information/tweaks/additions/UI alterations specific for that segment of the year. Point being, after missing an update or two, the app becomes extremely outdated and eventually useless. And that's why, in the mid-to-long term, just using the older version of the apk unfortunately isn't a useful alternative. Damn you NFL! Now we just have to hope the xda community will come to the rescue as they usually are able to do
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Well yeah, I mean I already uninstalled and then restored a backed up version of the app using Titanium Backup. The problem is - and if you've been a user of the NFL apps over the last year or two then you'll know this - that the NFL app is not like most apps where each upgrade just adds some incremental upgrades or changes. With this app the upgrades are typically pushed out right before the start of the key timeframes of the NFL season: usually an update right before preseason; another before the start of the regular season; another at the start of the playoffs; another right before the Super Bowl; and once more right before the draft in April. Each update is specific to that time period of the season and usually contains the critical information/tweaks/additions/UI alterations specific for that segment of the year. Point being, after missing an update or two, the app becomes extremely outdated and eventually useless. And that's why, in the mid-to-long term, just using the older version of the apk unfortunately isn't a useful alternative. Damn you NFL! Now we just have to hope the xda community will come to the rescue as they usually are able to do
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Ooooh gotcha. I didn't realize that that's how NFL ran their app. That's really annoying.
i'm not rooted, but that does seem like somebody went off the deep end with this app. rooting a device won't hurt their revenue, in fact, it will probably increase it from allowing ALL Android (and iOS) devices access the app. instead, they're cutting off access to a HUGE chunk of their fans, present and future. in essence, they're biting the hand that feeds them.
i voted the app down in the app store out of principal alone.
I am extremely displeased with this as well and am searching for a solution. Leave it to Verizon to try to control how you use YOUR phone.
hey is this an nfl app for verizon or a market version for all?
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hey is this an nfl app for verizon or a market version for all?
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From what I gather there are two different versions - the one that comes on Verizon phones, and the one that anyone else can grab from the Play Store. I have the Play Store version (as a TMo customer).
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Its working for me on pa
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CNexus said:
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Block removed. Enjoy!
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Boss.
CNexus said:
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Block removed. Enjoy!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395333
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And THAT is why the xda community is PRICELESS! You're my hero, well done and a big tip of the cap to you, CNex! Long live xda, and long live Android!!! And btw I'll do my best to spread the word to the countless other forums on xda for other devices with people trying to find th same solution!
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And THAT is why the xda community is PRICELESS! You're my hero, well done and a big tip of the cap to you, CNex! Long live xda, and long live Android!!! And btw I'll do my best to spread the word to the countless other forums on xda for other devices with people trying to find th same solution!
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Awesome, sounds good
Just in posting my thread I got a ton of hits of people freaking out about the new app...lol
FYI, they have fixed the app and it is now working perfectly fine on rooted devices strait from the play store
I might be the only one it's not working for. Wondering if anyone can help.
I cannot get 95% of the buttons to work in the Fantasy section of the app. Not only that, when I said 'to hell with the app' and went to their mobile site (which looks exactly like the app), I got the same thing... 95% of the buttons on the mobile site wouldn't do anything.
Now, on my N7, everything works fine.
Any ideas?
Edit: It was Ad Away. Can't use the app while it's running. Now I'll try to find the hosts file and see if I can edit the NFL entries out of it.

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