[Q] Push email drains battery? - Omnia 7 General

Hey! So I normally check my primary email account (Hotmail) for new emails every 30 minutes and that works fine but I kinda want to try out the "as items arrive" option in sync settings. When I set that my phone drains, I'd say, twice as fast as when I only have it set to 30 minutes. I thought push as opposed to fetch was supposed to save battery life..?
As a side note, I've got both my Facebook and Twitter apps' push notifications on and that makes no visible impact on my battery life, and they work fine! So why do emails drain the battery when push is enabled for them?
Thanks,
Florin

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gmail is pulling down stuff in my spam folders

I configured the WM6 email application to pull my gmail, however it's not pulling just the stuff from my gmail inbox, but also stuff that's been moved to my deleted/spam folder via filters i've created.
what i'd like to do is
- just pull stuff from my inbox
- only keep 1 or 2 days worth of gmail messages on my phone
Is this possible? I tried the java gmail client but it was awful.
Try emoze for gmail.
skenobi said:
Try emoze for gmail.
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Well, I installed emoze but have no idea how to use it. I went to download the user manual from emoze.com but it says it's not available because it's being updated.
I'm using the gmail gateway, no PC involved at all, I ran emoze and entered my username, password and configured the various options, after that it said something about synching, reached 100% and now nothing.
It just shows my username, a greyed out send box, a sign out box, log, settings and accounts button as well as an OK in the upper right. I have no idea how to get or send email via gmail with this app.
Sheesh, the MS application actually pulls down email from my outbox when i send it from my PC. Nice.
I also registered for the emoze forums but need to wait for someone to approve my application.
ok, i think i see, looks like it created a mail account in messages by itself. however i didnt really get a chance to look because my battery is almost dead. apparently i'm going to have to tweak how often messages are pulled. my battery is fine all day with every 10 minutes for exchange, but adding emoze drained it in a few hours.
robroth said:
ok, i think i see, looks like it created a mail account in messages by itself. however i didnt really get a chance to look because my battery is almost dead. apparently i'm going to have to tweak how often messages are pulled. my battery is fine all day with every 10 minutes for exchange, but adding emoze drained it in a few hours.
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If you click on the Accounts button and then Open Account (there should already be one account installed there already by now), you can select "push every 30 minutes" for instance. When it's not pushing, emoze goes into "sleep" mode. So battery drain should not be much of an issue. Incidentally, you may STILL select "Always On". Your mileage may vary i suppose...
And you can select your own range of Active Hours. Mine is only on manual i.e. only turned on when I'm on the move. Otherwise, I have my gmail account (the one that's tagged to emoze) to automatically forward email to any of of my OTHER gmail or POP accounts (the ones I use on my desktop at the office daily)
Not as ideal as "always on" blackberry email, but I stopped paying for my blackberry account coz, long term, it just ain't worth it for me. (I was using my Blackberry account on my Dopod 838Pro)
One man's meat... (and all that).
Does Gmail calendar sync work? I keep selecting that checkbox, but when I go back to that screen it's unchecked and no calendar events are being pulled down.
robroth said:
Does Gmail calendar sync work? I keep selecting that checkbox, but when I go back to that screen it's unchecked and no calendar events are being pulled down.
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I assume the calendar sync on Emoze is supposed to work with Google Calendar (?).
In any case, I don't use it since I only sync the onboard organizer items (Calendar, Tasks, Notes, Contacts) with my Outlook PST file at home or office via Activesync/PocketInformant .

Receiving mail problem in HD2

Hi,
I have been my Yahoo Mail since pocketpc days. I added Yahoo Mail in the Mail tab and set to auto receive every 30mins to check mail. However, ever since I start using HD2, I have been experiencing this error of receiving all the mails in my Yahoo account. Example, I have set to receive mails up to 3 days old, however, my device will download all the mails in my Yahoo account to the very first mail that I have since years ago. As a results, thousand of old mail bombed my phone and it resulted in a laggy and almost hanging device. Anyone here experience this problem b4 ? How do I go about solving this ? Thanks
Added : This problem does not happen everytime. It happens randomly...
you need to go to settings in your inbox and change options from download all to what you want...3 days....1 week ....1 month! hope that helps
yahoo sucks with windows mobile why not switch to a email provider with active sync capabilities like gmail or hotmail. that way it shows mail instantly. but i think it gets better battery life vs checking every 30 mins
Tm5078 said:
you need to go to settings in your inbox and change options from download all to what you want...3 days....1 week ....1 month! hope that helps
yahoo sucks with windows mobile why not switch to a email provider with active sync capabilities like gmail or hotmail. that way it shows mail instantly. but i think it gets better battery life vs checking every 30 mins
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hi,
thanks for ur prompt reply. I have set to 3 days. However, randomly it will receive all mails in the account. I have no idea why. As I am posting now, my phone has received all my mails again. It was set as 3 days. But I have mails dated years ago .. this is so irritating. Anyone else knows why ?
I'm experiancing the same problem, I tried even to set up the Yahoo mail manuely, but the phone will still upload randomly all email in my account, thats almost 4000 emails.
I noticed that it happens only when an alarm reminder is on snooze.
Same problem but even worse...
Yahoo Mails inability to work with the HD2 will drain my battery over night bc active synch will be running all night long trying to connect and disconnect to yahoo mail. Ive abandoned yahoo mail all together. I dont know enough to figure out who is to blame here, WinMo or Yahoo but the bottom line is Yahoo mail doesnt work properly on the HD2 results in lag, full inbox downloading, freezing, eats up all the resources heats the phone up to max and kills the phone, its just not worth using yahoo anymore
The thing about changing the update frequency has nothing to do with how many emails it downloads or its inability to set up a smooth connection to the yahoo server. It just buggy and simply doesnt work with any sort of reliability in fact its worse than unreliable its actually a liability bc I have to spend an hour every few days deleting the email account just to restore functionality to my phone. Takes like 20 minutes literally for WinMo to delete an account. Totally lags the phone takes forever...

Push E-Mail?

Could someone please explain how push e-mail functions on the HD2, WinMo 6.5?
How is it set up?
Will it work with any mail service (for example Gmail Imap)?
How does it differ from having the mail program check for mail every half hour or so?
Email that is delivered directly to the phone, automatically, as they arrive in the users inbox.
There's a thread at the top of this forum section that details how to set it up with Gmail
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There's a thread at the top of this forum section that details how to set it up with Gmail
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Thanks. I don't recall seeing that thread, but I'll look for it.
Does setting it reduce battery life a lot?
Is it as if the device is frequently going online to check for e-mail?
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There's a thread at the top of this forum section that details how to set it up with Gmail
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Do you mean the thread "Sync with Google"?
It involves installing a Google Sync app to the phone.
I'm not sure if I would want to do that. Probably a great reduction in battery life (as well as taking up memory), for the app to constantly check for new Google items to sync the phone with. (I wish I could figure out how to kill ActiveSync, so that it would only come on when I use it. I end it in TaskManager, and it starts right up again! Still worse if there were two such sync apps, constantly checking and syncing.
As far as it being Push, is it really? Would the Gmail server really know, every time one gets an e-mail, to send it to your phone?
Or, is it that Google Sync app, always running in the background, frequently checking online, to see whether a new piece of mail has comin in?
With Google sync you don't actually install an app. You basically set up your gmail account to act as an exchange server.
I have this set up on my phone now and get my emails almost as fast as if I has a BB..
Using this saves battery life compared to telling your phone to check since it doesn't actually have to keep checking on a schedule, it gets notified if you get an email and it is 'pushed' to the phone.
Vectre said:
With Google sync you don't actually install an app. You basically set up your gmail account to act as an exchange server.
I have this set up on my phone now and get my emails almost as fast as if I has a BB..
Using this saves battery life compared to telling your phone to check since it doesn't actually have to keep checking on a schedule, it gets notified if you get an email and it is 'pushed' to the phone.
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Hey Vectre, how do you justify Push E-Mail enabled saves more energy when it requires constant data connection VS connecting every hour, 4 hours, etc? In my experience, my battery drained faster with push on.
cu2cool said:
Hey Vectre, how do you justify Push E-Mail enabled saves more energy when it requires constant data connection VS connecting every hour, 4 hours, etc? In my experience, my battery drained faster with push on.
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Personal experience actually. Maybe I just had the schedule check for email too liberally but it does seem to last longer. Best guess is that while the data connection is on it is not actually transmitting or receiving anything.
I will grant you it could simply be subjective, but it is my experience.
Vectre said:
With Google sync you don't actually install an app. You basically set up your gmail account to act as an exchange server.
I have this set up on my phone now and get my emails almost as fast as if I has a BB..
Using this saves battery life compared to telling your phone to check since it doesn't actually have to keep checking on a schedule, it gets notified if you get an email and it is 'pushed' to the phone.
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What if one has more than one GMail account? Can one set up two?
I guess too, for this to work one has to have ActiveSync set to automatic. In order not to have AS run constantly, many folks set up a fake Exchange server, just to be able to set the schedule to Manual. If it is set to manual, however, I don't see how the e-mail could "Push".
So, in setting up "Push" for a Gmail account, does one not use the Microsoft Push E-maikl setting at all? Or is that a different way to do it, including for Gmail?
Doesn't that Google Sync also sync the Google online Calendar with the phone's calendar, etc.?
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me said:
What if one has more than one GMail account? Can one set up two?
I guess too, for this to work one has to have ActiveSync set to automatic. In order not to have AS run constantly, many folks set up a fake Exchange server, just to be able to set the schedule to Manual. If it is set to manual, however, I don't see how the e-mail could "Push".
So, in setting up "Push" for a Gmail account, does one not use the Microsoft Push E-maikl setting at all? Or is that a different way to do it, including for Gmail?
Doesn't that Google Sync also sync the Google online Calendar with the phone's calendar, etc.?
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Actually, at this time, my understanding is while you can have multiple email accounts you can only have 1 set up through exchange. I could be wrong, I haven't done in depth research.
Current reviews and reports say that Windows Phone 7 is supposed to support multiple exchange servers.. But we haven't actually seen it yet.
Vectre
I've never done Push, thinking of trying it.
I'll tell you how I have my e-mail currrently set up on the HD2, which is the same way as I have set it up on other phones for years.
T-Mobile has a service where you set up your e-mail addresses with them (at mytmobile), and you can set it for them to send a text message every time you receive an e-mail. That message includes the sender, the subject line, date and time, I forget if any of the message. I think those alerts are free, do not take from one's store of text messages. I have that set.
Then--I do not have any automatic retrieving set up in e-mail. It is all manual.
So, I do get a message "pushed" to me, on receipt of all e-mails, from all accounts.
If I see that I received an e-mail that I want to read now on the phone, then I go to either the phone's mail app, or the gmail java applet (I use the latter more now), to read that e-mail.
I don't use any server in ActiveSync, yet I have a fake one set up, to enable me to set AS totally to manual. (You can find threads about that here). That way AS does not run all the time, is not constantly trying to sync, etc.
I'm not sure what advantage "push" would have over that, and probably use much more battery. (And yes, that would be a limitation with Gmail, in only being able to do one account. I regularly check two Gmail accounts. If I was to do Push, I would turn off the text alerts, but then I would not find out what e-mails I received on the 2nd gmail account.)
I was curious about Push (and then disabling the e-mail alerts), but I will probably stick with what I have.
me said:
I've never done Push, thinking of trying it.
I'll tell you how I have my e-mail currrently set up on the HD2, which is the same way as I have set it up on other phones for years.
T-Mobile has a service where you set up your e-mail addresses with them (at mytmobile), and you can set it for them to send a text message every time you receive an e-mail. That message includes the sender, the subject line, date and time, I forget if any of the message. I think those alerts are free, do not take from one's store of text messages. I have that set.
Then--I do not have any automatic retrieving set up in e-mail. It is all manual.
So, I do get a message "pushed" to me, on receipt of all e-mails, from all accounts.
If I see that I received an e-mail that I want to read now on the phone, then I go to either the phone's mail app, or the gmail java applet (I use the latter more now), to read that e-mail.
I don't use any server in ActiveSync, yet I have a fake one set up, to enable me to set AS totally to manual. (You can find threads about that here). That way AS does not run all the time, is not constantly trying to sync, etc.
I'm not sure what advantage "push" would have over that, and probably use much more battery. (And yes, that would be a limitation with Gmail, in only being able to do one account. I regularly check two Gmail accounts. If I was to do Push, I would turn off the text alerts, but then I would not find out what e-mails I received on the 2nd gmail account.)
I was curious about Push (and then disabling the e-mail alerts), but I will probably stick with what I have.
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I used this on my previous winmo phone. When I tried to set it up for [email protected] it didn't seem to still be an option. That is why I set up google sync. At this time I am mostly using my gmail account so it works out just fine..
Vectre said:
I used this on my previous winmo phone. When I tried to set it up for [email protected] it didn't seem to still be an option. That is why I set up google sync. At this time I am mostly using my gmail account so it works out just fine..
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You mean the mail alerts from T-Mobile?
That is not something you set up on the phone, and has nothing to do with WinMo.
In fact, I had nothing to do, to set it up on my HD2. I had it set up already, worked on my previous (non winmo) phone, and it worked on my HD2, without any re-setting up.
You set it up at the T-Mobile web site. Log on to "My T-Mobile", with your user name and password, go to "configure e-mail". You can set up any e-mail accounts you have there--POP, IMAP, etc (including Gmail and others), and you can set it to send you a text alert for every e-mail received on any of the e-mail accounts you configure there.
It is completely phone-independent. Once set up, it will send those alerts to any phone you have, unless you turn it off. (If having a problem with it, call T-Mo CS.)

[TIP] Disable Gmail Sync for better battery life + Discuss

Hi all,
A few days into my Desire Z experience and I'm very happy.
However, battery life is somewhat low, probably because of the "wow" factor of constant playing but dropping 20% overnight was a bit perplexing, even my Windows 6.5.x phone dropped < 5%. I have only installed about 3 apps so far and they're not sync ones.
Playing about reveals that in;
Settings -> Accounts and Sync -> Google
Sync Contacts
Sync GMail
Sync Calendar
Are all checked on and automatically and periodically syncing.
Not using any of these services and HTC Sense requiring the global automatic sync, simply untick all these services. Hopefully battery life will be improved...
It has been suggested in other forums while I was searching for my issue that its much more battery friendly to add your GMail account to the mail app and set a schedule instead of relying on Sync.
Regards
Craig

Extremely slow email Sync

Running stock Nexus S with background data and auto-sync both checked in settings. I'm running the mail app not the gmail app and have 3 accounts setup on IMAP with 15 min sync. Weather/news widget also does not sync. I have it set to every 6 hours and when I just checked it said last update 18hr ago??
1. It does not sync in 15
2. When I manually sync each account it is way slow
3. Weather/news sync also slow
I think the phone has some confusion running wifi + 3G
Any suggestions?? Others with similar issues? I'm used to instant sync on IMAP on 2G!
not a single reply??
I don't use the mail app (Gmail app) but I've heard that not using push when using IMAP leads to the phone failing to sync and draining the battery really fast eventually. It happens when it tries to sync during one of the scheduled syncs and there's no service at the time or something, and then it goes fubar. Not sure if they've fixed this, but it was doing it on my friend's Nexus One until I changed it to push.
Anyway, is your battery noticeably bad for some strange reason? =)

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