FIXED! - Froyo ROM "closing" the background apps. - Continuum General

I contacted spearoid via PM to respond to a post of his on the development forum, because at that time, I didn't have enough posts to post in the dev forum... Anyhow, his issue was with Google Navigation. He would switch to another app, say the messaging app (because I don't actually remember his example, and I can't find the post from him on this issue), and then switch back to the Google Navigation app and it was as if he hadn't launched it just a few seconds ago. He had to wait for GPS the lock and then enter the navigation information again... Yeah, I agree, what a PITA (pain in the arse).
I sent him the PM to check out my post on fixing the launcher respawning as I thought the issue was similiar. Well, it is, however, I can't figure out what line to enter to replace the ro.HOME_APP_ADJ... Dang! I then went back to zepplinrox OP here in XDA (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276). I paid special attention to the The Nitty Gritty... For Geeks! and the history sections where he talks about the default minfree values. Bingo!
Using AMM (Auto Memory Manager), I looked at my memory settings, but I had already done this, so I don't know what the defaults are. Using AMM, I used the advanced settings in the menu and manually put in 6, 12, 45, 60, 80, 90. If you are wondering, "Why so high?", check out the thread by androcheck, rather than reinvent the wheel, and post the majority of his post here, I'll just link to it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666.
I have found that when I need to switch to an app for a few moments, and come back to the one I was just running (I did try this with Google Navigation and it works), it seems to work. Now, the only flaw I found was if I stay on the second app for a longer period of time, say 2 minutes or so, Google Navigation was killed. Then, why are you sending a text message while driving?!?! (Just kidding.)
Hope this helps. When I find information, I prefer to share it and help others!
Ciao!

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Hi everyone. I just purchased my Droid X last week, and I'm having some migrating pains coming from Windows Mobile 6.5 (HTC Touch Pro 2, Mighty ROM) over to Android. I'm wondering if the fine folks here at XDA can help me ease into the Android OS a little easier.
Here are the things I miss most about WinMo, maybe you can tell me some viable alternatives.
1) The Dialer. - Skip the next 3 paragraphs if you're familiar with HTC Sense on WinMo.
The dialer absolutely sucks compared to the TP2. Having to click different tabs juts annoys me. In the TP2, the dialer and recent calls were displayed in a single window, so if I wanted to dial Steve, I had 2 ways of doing it.
The first way was to dial 7(S), 8(T). The phone would recognize I am spelling out Steve, and list everyone who fits the ST criteria sorted by most recently called. The more I spelled out his name, the narrower the results got.
The second method was to dial his number. Pretend Steve's number is (123) 456-7890. If I dialed 123, it would sort all contacts with numbers who matched the area code, and it would narrow the results as I typed more of his phone number.
I really hate having to tap between Contacts (there is a contacts soft button next to the dialer anyway), I would just click that if I wanted to from the beginning.
Are there any dialers out there closer to the HTC Dialer?
2) Contacts.
There has to be a better contact manager. Not being able to quickly tap a letter to get to contacts is really dumb.
3) Ninja Applications.
Why do I keep seeing applications running that I never started when I load Advance Task Killer. It's really annoying when I load up an App, and go to close it, and see Skype and CityID running when I never launched either of them. I'm almost afraid to set up AIM on my phone at this point.
4) GPS.
If I keep my GPS on, my battery gets killed. With my TP2, it would only use the GPS when it needed it, so for weather updates, and Google Maps, otherwise it stayed off (or was in a suspend state). I turned the GPS on my first day and had 0 battery by around 2 (left the house at 8). Is there any way to set the GPS to only be used, as needed?
5) APPLICATIONS EVERYWHERE.
Is there anyway to sort these into folders? Also, is there anyway to add an X to the application so I can close it when I'm done with it rather than having to launch an App just to close the App I just used?
I really liked the Sense way of doing it, where I had an X in the Application, and a drop down on the home screen that would list the open Apps so I could close them 1 at a time.
6) MotoBlur.
Ugh, I really hate this UI. Has anyone had any experience with SenseX?
7) Custom Roms.
I've seen a handful of Custom ROMs, and I'm planning on putting one on when I have some time next week. I need a good way to backup contacts, after I just spent an hour linking everyone, but I'd like to know if there is a decent Apples to Apples comparison of the ROMs. They don't seem to be outlines as detailed as I'm used to.
On this topic, are there any problems setting up things like MMS once you install a Custom ROM? It was a nightmare on the TP2, but those ROMs were also made for multiple carriers, which isn't a problem with this phone, so I imagine it shouldn't be an issue.
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Thank you for taking the time to read this wall of text.
Other than the 7 things listed, I love the phone. Finding MortPlayer for Droid made my day. I'm looking forward to unlocking it's true potential, and I hope my list isn't a bunch of things I'm just going to have to adjust to.
Thank you again, have a great day.
EDIT:
Also, it's really annoying that every time I connect my phone to my PC, it launches a Verizon web site. Is there anyway to disable this?
Ok... I will take a stab at this.
FIRST, You DO NOT have to settle for the apps that come preinstalled on your phone! Just had to clear that up... Ok, here we go:
Check an app called "Dialer One" and see if that fits your needs... I haven't used it in a while... but heard it still a great replacement for the stock dialer.
Searching for a better Contact Manager is on my To-Do list.. hope someone comes in and help out a little more with that one
Don't worry about the "ninja" apps TOO much. Android Froyo has an amazing task manager and even though you SEE the apps as "running applications", they are not really RUNNING. They are more like... in a queue.. so they are ready for whenever you come back to them....but you still have to watch what the apps are doing. Some do not play nicely and hog memory. I'll link a good post here in a minute explaining that a little better.
There is a widget that can help you out here.. it's called "Power Control" put that bad boy on your homescreen and the option to turn on/off wifi, bluetooth, gps, etc is at your fingertips (for even more controls... check out "Extended Controls" in the market. It cost like $1 and some change)
I'm... not really following this one. For one.. you CAN use folders on your homescreen and put whatever your heart desires in them.. and label it accordingly. I'm not sure what you mean by the "X" in the app
SenseX?? What is that?? Anyway.. as you will find out soon, 99% of the Droid X community despise MotoBlur!! You can use a different Home Launcher and not use Blur. Two of the major Home Launcher replacements are Adw.launcher & LauncherPro... which one is better is a whole different story. They are both great and only YOU can choose which one is best. There many threads comparing them and they run neck to neck mostly. I'm on LauncherPro personally
Custom Roms?? Eh.. I personally do my own developments and theming on my phone and do not use them... there not really all what they cracked up to be because whatever they have on them... I can do myself. So I'm not much of an help on that one... Somebody else maybe will chime in.
P.S-To fix the Verizon thing, go to the "M" in the taskbar at the bottom of your screen by the clock on your PC and right click it.. there should be an option saying to tell it to NOT send you to the Verizon site when you connect your phone. I don't know the EXACT wording of the option menu.. I'm on a mac
Thank you for your reply.
I will check out the Dialer. Thank you very much.
Darn!
A friend of mine told me that, but it's hard for me to not be a bit OCD about background Applications. I've been a Windows user most of my life, and coming from WinMo, background apps really kill performance.
More than anything, my issue is with things like Skype loading when I do not want to be signed in. I want auto-login when I launch the Application, but I don't want the application loading when it feels like it, and me getting a random IM or call from someone when I didn't even tell it to log in.
It also bothers me that Amazon MP3, something I've never even loaded, has turned itself on. It makes me feel like I don't have control over my phone.
I do have a widget that lets me turn these things on and off, I was just hoping for a way to set it up so that the GPS is "pinged" and only used as needed, and turned back off. My TP2 did this, and was a great battery saver. Having to turn the GPS on and off just to get a weather update based on location is a bit annoying.
I didn't mean on the home-screen, I meant in the application list. So when I hit the application list, I can sort them by "Games", "Google", etc.
For the "X", what I mean is in reference to closing an App. In WinMo, the top right of the screen had an X, and if I touched that X, the app would close. Now, once I exit the App, I need to use an application killer to close said App.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764840
Looks like Sense for the Droid X. In Beta now, so I'm waiting for a stable release.
Really, it's just to get rid of bloatware and take advantage of some performance optimizations that have been made.
A couple of other things that have come up.
I need a better keyboard. One with arrows so I can navigate text. Touching isn't precise enough, and I don't have a stylus with this phone. Today I voiced a text message, and I went to correct an error, but I couldn't get the curse to go in the exact spot I needed it to go into. My old OSK had arrow soft-keys I could tap to navigate with.
Also, I notice when I pull my phone out of the leather pouch I have, when I hit the power button it comes up in landscape, and the accelerometer doesn't pick up on the turn. I need to turn the screen off and turn it back on.
Finally, I'm having extender issues, but I think I need to call VZW for that. When leaving my house, I can't reconnect to Data without a power-cycle.
Thank you for the reply.
my .02
3. Break yourself from the taskiller need. If you have programs allways running that you dont need, ie skype or city id. Root and delete those SOB's. you can look around and there are plenty of articles of why not to use them. Android is a linux based os. Linux is far supirior to Win in memeory management. You dont need task killers.
4. if your gps is turned on its not always running. It only runs when needed. Is by chance your wifi on? that will run all the time by searching for access points. if not you might have maps running, make sure to always back out of maps and not just hit home. That way it closes and doesnt just run in background. (actually goes for most apps)
5 organization- you cant sort the app drawer, you can hide apps (just the icons) using launcher pro, not sure if ADW has that option. Useing folders or the app "app manager" is your best bet
extra. swype has arrows. swype from the swype icon to abc and it will bring up a new keyboard.
I came from winmo- so I know all about your "X" pains. But I say forget about a task killer or even killing tasks (except maybe maps and navigation). I did a little reading about pros and cons and decided to try the "no task killer" approach. I haven't had any problems. the task killer is a pain anyways. you can kill apps all day long and there are a bunch of them that are just going to repopulate themselves in like 5 minutes. I just said, "fegetaboutit". My phone runs great.
if you open the dialer and are on the contacts tab just long press the menu button (the physical button) and your keyboard will pop up. start typing and contacts will appear.
I like "Zeam Launcher". There is a thread here on XDA. I have Launcher Pro+ -but actually liked Zeam so much I use it. Just different preferences though.
that's all i got for now.
Thank you for your replies.
I will try to be a bit less OCD regarding my tasks. I did kill a couple of services of applications that kept starting, like Skype.
I'll check out those launchers and see if I like them better.
Any good stock widgets?
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So I just tried to check my location on Google Maps with GPS turned off, and it says I need to turn it on.
How do I set it up to use the GPS as needed?
I leave location services on (GPS)
My theory is that applications will only enable GPS when they need them, so if you have a application running that wants GPS, it will use it.
The GPS icon appears in the notification bar when I'm using something that is using GPS, so I assume its only actually on when this icon is present. Leave it on in settings just makes is available.
Any widget or application that has a setting for manual location (Weather, IMDB) I use it, and disable GPS location, to keep GPS from running all of the time.
To exit an app you are using, either hit the back button or the home button.
If you are worried about "ninja" apps using cpu and memory, you can try a minfree adjustment application such as AutoKiller Memory Optimizer. It fine tunes android's inner memory manager to be a bit more aggressive in closing applications.
I use another Rom (rubiX, link in sig) that already has minfree adjusted (according to the author) and it does help in keeping the X smooth. It also removes all (well most) of Blur and default installed apps as well, so you start with a very clean X.
The default home screen (blur) is crap. I would also suggest replacing it with LauncherPro or ADW
For removing the pre-installed applications. Follow this guide
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...ta-3-ways-super-easy-safe-safe-easy-free.html
Some apps in /system/app/ are not named what they are
(IE. mynet.apk = 3g Hotspot)
For a keyboard anywhere, you can hold the menu button, and it will pop up.
Swype is really a few keyboards. Swype from the icon to the SYM button, it will give you the edit panel (arrows, home, end, copy, paste, etc...) press the ABC button to go back.
Swype from the icon to the f key, it will turn into a number pad. Press the ABC button to go back to the normal keyboard.
Run the tutorial on Swype too, it will give you some very nice pointers on it's use. I used Swype on windows mobile and I found out a few things about Swype I never knew.
Also, as for touching where your cursor is in a text field, if you press and hold, and magnifying bubble will pop up. This makes moving the cursor easier
Did you find a dialer yet? I saw these posted and thought about this thread...
http://www.appbrain.com/app/kz.mek.DialerOne
http://www.appbrain.com/app/acontacts/kz.mek.aContacts
Haven't had a chance to try them yet.
bad4u6669 said:
.... swype has arrows. swype from the swype icon to abc and it will bring up a new keyboard.
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OMG. thanks. been loving swype but that has been driving me nuts. Thanks for the info.
Thank you for the replies.
One of the things I liked about my TP2, is I could leave location services on, and it used very little battery.
I guess Weather Bug just SUCKS battery out like crazy. I turned on the GPS last night for something, and decided to see how well it did with battery today. It turns out that some grocery shopping app I wanted to try was sucking my GPS dry (no idea why)... yet another "ninja app" that just started up because it felt like it (this kind of **** really makes me , programs should only start up when I tell them to, not when a component of my phone turns on).
I live in an apartment that has really bad signal (I actually have a Network Extender), so that might be my GPS constantly trying to update when I'm at home killing my battery.
WeatherBug is set to update every hour, so I'm going to see what happens tomorrow with the GPS turned on. It would be nice if I could just set it and forget it, not need to turn it off every time I come home.
Thank you for the contact program, I might check it out. I've been pretty content since I got DialerOne and found out I can get the keyboard up by holding the options.
I tried LauncherPro, and I LOVED it at first, and my phones performance was fantastic!
Then I found out it charges me to resize widgets... WTF is that crap?
I'm going to try some other launchers and see what happens. I'm getting the hang of it, but I still do not like things starting up on their own. Regardless of memory management, my phone should not just decide to boot up programs on it's own.
the phone only does what the app or the user tells it to do. If theirs an app that you don't like, delete it.
And complaining that launcher pro charges for every thing it offers is ridiculous. Every thing it offers for free already ( 7 home screens, 10 rows and columns, unreal speed improvement, etc. ) then to get the extras its less than most people throw away on a daily basis. Where as this three dollars its money that pays off on a daily basis
Adw and lp should be paid apps from the start for all they offer.
You have 3 options, write your own program, use the stock launcher, find a free one.
-end rant
Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
I usually leave my location setting on "Use Wireless Networks" and don't bother with GPS other than for maps and navigation. Works fine for all of my other apps that need a location (e.g., weather).
There are apps out there that can turn GPS on and off automatically when you run a particular app, such as Tasker (which can do a whole host of things, but that is one one of them). Tasker is a paid app, but there might be something free out there that does something similar.
Also, I agree with the previous poster re: Launcher Pro. It's really a fantastic home launcher and well worth a few bucks to support the developer. The LP Plus widgets are also a lot better than any of the Blur widgets.
In the end, I probably will buy it, but I'm going to play around with some of the free ones first.
Tasker sounds like it might be worth it for that feature alone (being able to turn the GPS on and off at will). I'm just surprised a feature like this wasn't built in to begin with, considering WinMo has had it for years.
On an unrelated note, can anyone recommend a good media player? I'm going to be flying soon and want to test the battery out on Airplane mode while watching a movie from the SD card. I need something that can decode a variety of formats, mostly XviD for stuff like digital movie copies and TV shows.
EtherBoo said:
In the end, I probably will buy it, but I'm going to play around with some of the free ones first.
Tasker sounds like it might be worth it for that feature alone (being able to turn the GPS on and off at will). I'm just surprised a feature like this wasn't built in to begin with, considering WinMo has had it for years.
On an unrelated note, can anyone recommend a good media player? I'm going to be flying soon and want to test the battery out on Airplane mode while watching a movie from the SD card. I need something that can decode a variety of formats, mostly XviD for stuff like digital movie copies and TV shows.
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You might want to look into RockPlayer. That's the only one I found so far that decodes ALMOST anything on the spot.
The "Ninja Applications" are running because Android is a true multi tasking OS.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
I hope necromancy isn't frowned upon on this board, so my apologies if it is.
I found a new problem because I had the nerve to attempt to update a contact photo after Facebook had saved it's picture to it.
This is especially frustrating because I'm going to want to override a lot of these photos very soon.
Apparently, updating the photo updates the Google Contact photo, but the phone only displays the Facebook photo. This is a bug confirmed by Moto that will be fixed in a future update.
This leaves me with 2 options.
De-Sync FB, which I'm not thrilled about only because I like getting the most recent status update prior to receiving a call, and There is a lot of info that FB fills in for me.
Copy down all the FB info, and fill it in manually. With Google Contacts not being the best contact manager (I'm very OCD about uniformity in the way things are formatted), I really don't want to do this.
So I figure I need a new contact manager. I tried AContacts, and it crashed every time I tried to edit a contact.
I would love something like the HTC one that comes with WinMo, or maybe even the iPhone one.
I would be willing to pay for this.
P.S.
I'm now rooted and running a custom ROM (zapX I think it's called). I'm loving my phone much more now. My battery life has skyrocketed, and my performance is amazing now. Very iPhone smooth (one thing I was always jealous of, and I hate the iPhone).

Update: List available now of issues in Froyo (EB13) for Devs and SamsungJohn

Update: List of issues available
Dear All:
Since this thread began, we have vented our frustration here, but most importantly, we have done that in an organized manner, by listing our issues in categories. I thank you all for staying on topic, and providing the much needed information in such great detail.
The purpose of the thread was to provide a comprehensive list of all the issues/annoyances/bugs we faced after upgrading to Froyo's EB13 Build, to the developers on this forum, as well as to those at Samsung. Squshy 7, a diligent member of this forum, printed the whole thread(!!), analyzed the information and complied a list of all the issues posted in this thread and others, to serve the purpose of this thread. Great job, Squshy 7!
I hope that based on this list, which is, for now, attached to this post as a Word document (and is posted by Squshy 7 later in the thread), we can receive great feedback from the developers and can soon receive the fixed version of EB13 from our own and Samsung's developers. Wonders of uninvited, but essential, crowdsourcing models! I wish companies realized the benefits of such models of business in this day and age.
I have PMed a mod to insert a second post to this thread so I can paste the complete list in that post.
The following is the original post of this thread. Thank you.
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I am aware there is already a thread about bugs resulting after the latest EB13 update, but I did not see a thread where all the bugs were listed in an organized way. It would be very helpful if we have all the bugs compiled as a list from this thread here in a dedicated thread meant to be seen by Samsung developers, especially SamsungJohn. It would be great if SamsungJohn, continuing the spirit of partnership with the community, can take this list and work toward providing a patch for all the issues after the update as soon as he/Samsung can.
I would greatly appreciate if people, who received their update OTA, would chime in, too.
I am listing the following information about my method of update and the issues/bugs I am facing.
Method of update:
I was on Stock rooted ROM (DI18), with some Sprint apps uninstalled, so I had to use Odin to flash back to a complete Stock ROM. After using the Odin method to flash a Stock ROM, I installed the "update.zip" file from Samsung's Web site to update Eclair (DI18) to Froyo (EB13).
List of issues/bugs:
Sound/Volume:-
- The maximum volume is less louder than what it was on DI18 (some have reported this issue)
- Sound playing at 70% (rough estimate) or above loses fidelity coming out of the speaker of the phone, which is quite frustrating and disappointing, especially when the issue did not exist on Eclair (DI18)
Android Browser:-
- Checkerboard issue
- Unable to open more than four links. The "Open in new window" option does not appear if there are already four windows open
Camera/Camcorder/Video:-
- While recording video in low light, the video lags a lot, rendering the camcorder essentially useless for capturing precious moments anywhere and everywhere
- Selecting the "Sport" mode on the camera force closes the camera app
- There is no option to stop the geotagging of the pics taken by the default Camera app (strange, to say the least)
Screen:-
- On occasions, the screen goes blank and does not come alive until several seconds seconds later, or does not come alive at all
- There is a significant lag (about 2 seconds) in rotating from portrait to landscape, and from landscape to portrait orientation
GPS:-
- Not much better than the buggy GPS in Eclair (even after six months!)
Wifi:-
- The connection to Wifi suddenly drops after a random number of hours. The attempt to turn Wifi back on, from the Settings menu, or the Status/Notification Bar, results in an error, or the Wifi doesn't turn on. To turn the Wifi on, the device needs to be rebooted, or, the radio needs to be turned off and on.
Gsensor:-
- The direction shown by the pointer in Google Maps is wrong by 180 degrees
Operating System:-
- I have several apps moved to the SD card. After a reboot, icons for the apps which reside on the SD card, do not load for a minute or so
- I also noted that the icons of apps on the SD card, organized in a folder on the Home screen, fail to load completely, several times
- A folder shortcut for Pandora fails to load it's icon after a reboot
Please list your method of update and the issues/bugs in an organized manner on this thread, otherwise, the purpose of the thread will be defeated. After we have listed almost all the issues with the EB13 update, it would be a good idea to create a poll to find the number of people experiencing each of the issues. A poll at this time is useless as we do not know the exact number of issues.
Anyone who will post, please organize your issues and categorize them (even if it is a very loose categorization), as it would be much easier for a developer on this forum or from Samsung, to use an organized list of issues and get us closer to receiving fixes as they would have enough information in the form of a list.
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My EB14 update
Samsung update tool to EB13
Have yet to fully test EB13 but the first glaringly obvious problem is Samsung's infamous "Time without Signal" issue.
First 6 hours running EB13, TWS was 50%
Hours 6 - 12 running EB13 and using "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround, TWS was 1%.
Battery drain was significantly less after using the "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround to temporarily fix the issue.
From everything I have read the TWS bug is caused by the phones modem.bin programing continuously hunting for a GSM signal. Since the phone is CDMA and has no GSM hardware it will never find one, causing significant battery drain. I have also read that this bug is not limited to the Epic, but effects multiple Samsung CDMA hardware platforms. There is no way that Samsung could be unaware of this issue.
twolostminds said:
Samsung update tool to EB13
Have yet to fully test EB13 but the first glaringly obvious problem is Samsung's infamous "Time without Signal" issue.
First 6 hours running EB13, TWS was 50%
Hours 6 - 12 running EB13 and using "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround, TWS was 1%.
Battery drain was significantly less after using the "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround to temporarily fix the issue.
From everything I have read the TWS bug is caused by the phones modem.bin programing continuously hunting for a GSM signal. Since the phone is CDMA and has no GSM hardware it will never find one, causing significant battery drain. I have also read that this bug is not limited to the Epic, but effects multiple Samsung CDMA hardware platforms. There is no way that Samsung could be unaware of this issue.
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Thanks for your input. I was hoping we would categorize our issues in terms of Camera issue, Sound issue, etc., so your issue is a battery issue. If you don't mind, I will place the text of your issue as the following, in this post:
Method of update:
Samsung update tool to EB13
List of issues/bugs:
Battery (and Modem):-
Battery drain was significantly less after using the "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround to temporarily fix the issue.
From everything I have read the TWS bug is caused by the phones modem.bin programing continuously hunting for a GSM signal. Since the phone is CDMA and has no GSM hardware it will never find one, causing significant battery drain. I have also read that this bug is not limited to the Epic, but effects multiple Samsung CDMA hardware platforms. There is no way that Samsung could be unaware of this issue.
Anyone who will post, please organize your issues and categorize them, as it would be much easier for a developer on this forum or from Samsung, to use an organized list of issues and get us closer to receiving fixes as they would have enough information in the form of a list.
Stock di18, unrooted, stock recovery...used update.zip, then dameons deodexed. same bugs throughout
Camera: terrible video lag in low light
Broswer:
prbly app related..all my bookmarks imported correctly, but from the browser I can't access the bookmark list or browsing history...there's literally no option to view them. And the shortcut from the old browser of holding the back button to view them doesn't work either.
And massive checkerboarding
General: overall rotation lag, even after calibration
Battery/radio: haven't noticed a terrible drain on the battery,but I too have the TWS bug. Hangs right at 50%. (On a side note, what's th airplane trick. PM me the answer so as to not clutter this thread)
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
I've had some of the same issues mentioned by others in many of these threads, but one I've had that I haven't seen mentioned else where is gaps in the Application screen.
I applied update.exe from a stock DI18. Since the Clock app added timer and stopwatch functions, I uninstalled a couple of other apps that were now redundant. But instead of the App pages condensing, I now have gaps when I'm in grid view. I'm sorry I don't feel like I'm explaining this well...
I have 7 pages in Applications grid view. In the past, removing an app meant that all the apps shifted so there would be one less App on page 7. Now, if the app I remove is on page 2, it creates a gap at the bottom right of page 2, and all the other pages are unchanged.
Sorry, OP, I'm not really sure how to categorize that for this list, but I hope this helps it get addressed.
incisivekeith said:
Thanks for your input. I was hoping we would categorize our issues in terms of Camera issue, Sound issue, etc., so your issue is a battery issue. If you don't mind, I will place the text of your issue as the following, in this post:
Method of update:
Samsung update tool to EB13
List of issues/bugs:
Battery:-
Battery drain was significantly less after using the "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround to temporarily fix the issue.
From everything I have read the TWS bug is caused by the phones modem.bin programing continuously hunting for a GSM signal. Since the phone is CDMA and has no GSM hardware it will never find one, causing significant battery drain. I have also read that this bug is not limited to the Epic, but effects multiple Samsung CDMA hardware platforms. There is no way that Samsung could be unaware of this issue.
Anyone who will post, please organize your issues and categorize them, as it would be much easier for a developer on this forum or from Samsung, to use an organized list of issues and get us closer to receiving fixes as they would have enough information in the form of a list.
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Is there any way your can cross categorize this issue (Battery & Modem) as it is a Battery issue directly caused by a known Modem.bin bug?
What you are seeing is normal for the new version of touch wiz.
On the handset
Unlock Device
Press 'Applications'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'Edit'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'a-z sort'
That should resort the icon's to the way you are used to seeing them.
Thank you.
Update method samsung update tool.
Same issues as stated in the first post on this thread.
One more annoying bug that I'm also having is when I try to open the sms app it will often open a app that was previously running like contacts dialer or log I would find myself having to reset the phone to get the sms app to work properly. Oh yeah I noticed my battery is draining a lot faster too. To me this seems like dk28 was just renamed eb13. There is nothing that set this build apart from dk28 except the name change.
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mindinfiltrator said:
What you are seeing is normal for the new version of touch wiz.
On the handset
Unlock Device
Press 'Applications'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'Edit'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'a-z sort'
That should resort the icon's to the way you are used to seeing them.
Thank you.
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Holy crap, I had no idea. Thanks! I'd seen the new Edit option in the menu, but never thought to hit the Menu button a second time.
Was this documented somewhere that I should have seen?
twolostminds said:
Is there any way your can cross categorize this issue (Battery & Modem) as it is a Battery issue directly caused by a known Modem.bin bug?
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I have re-categorized your issue.
The only purpose of this thread is to just provide a quick list of issues/bugs to the people who can use it to fix the outstanding issues, soon. Again, thanks to everyone going through the extra trouble of categorizing and listing their issues in an organized manner. I certainly hope this exercise produces the intended results. Are you reading SamsungJohn?
mindinfiltrator said:
What you are seeing is normal for the new version of touch wiz.
On the handset
Unlock Device
Press 'Applications'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'Edit'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'a-z sort'
That should resort the icon's to the way you are used to seeing them.
Thank you.
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Mods, please delete this (my) post. I had misunderstood the above post as a solution to one of the issues I had listed, while it is actually addressing another issue in this thread.
blackdragon79 said:
Update method samsung update tool.
Same issues as stated in the first post on this thread.
One more annoying bug that I'm also having is when I try to open the sms app it will often open a app that was previously running like contacts dialer or log I would find myself having to reset the phone to get the sms app to work properly. Oh yeah I noticed my battery is draining a lot faster too. To me this seems like dk28 was just renamed eb13. There is nothing that set this build apart from dk28 except the name change.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
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Seems like you have issues with the SMS and Battery categories.
Please categorize your issues. Without categorizing and organizing issues, we will have a thread identical to the thread related to the bugs, which would make this thread redundant, and defeats the purpose of this thread. Thank you.
incisivekeith said:
Mods, please delete this post. I had misunderstood the above post as a solution to one of the issues I had listed, while it is actually addressing another issue in this thread.
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I'll probably just go back to LauncherPro... I cannot seem to find the sort button after it goes into edit mode... on my screen it just looks like and iPhone.
skywalkr2 said:
I'll probably just go back to LauncherPro... I cannot seem to find the sort button after it goes into edit mode... on my screen it just looks like and iPhone.
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You go into edit mode and then hit the menu button again.
squshy 7 said:
Stock di18, unrooted, stock recovery...used update.zip, then dameons deodexed. same bugs throughout
Camera: terrible video lag in low light
Broswer:
prbly app related..all my bookmarks imported correctly, but from the browser I can't access the bookmark list or browsing history...there's literally no option to view them. And the shortcut from the old browser of holding the back button to view them doesn't work either.
And massive checkerboarding
General: overall rotation lag, even after calibration
Battery/radio: haven't noticed a terrible drain on the battery,but I too have the TWS bug. Hangs right at 50%. (On a side note, what's th airplane trick. PM me the answer so as to not clutter this thread)
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
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the bookmarks dont have an option , when you click the bookmark button at top near the address bar it brings them up
camera
Camera/Video issue.
Updated via Samsung tool from straight stock.
The video is blurry as noted in low light, but what's even more of an issue is that it force closes whenever you try to select "sports mode" It screws up the phone so bad that after it goes into sleep mode once force closing it will not wake back up. Only a battery pull will get it to respond. I've seen this issue noted across at least 3 other forums, but haven't seen it addressed in this one yet.
Thanks-
Bump
Keep postin guys. The OP and myself want as much info as possible. I will be compiling this thread on Sunday to get a 1st draft out there.
Please, categorize your issues (ALL of them), feel free to agree with other peoples issues (but be SPECIFIC), and stay ON TOPIC!
THANKS
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
I used Samsung's online tool and I am having GPS lock issues.
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cbpagent72 said:
I used Samsung's online tool and I am having GPS lock issues.
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Thanks. I am restating what you said, as below, for simplicity of searching later.
Update method:
Samsung's online tool (.exe)
Issue:
GPS:-
Takes long time to lock.
squshy 7 said:
Bump
Keep postin guys. The OP and myself want as much info as possible. I will be compiling this thread on Sunday to get a 1st draft out there.
Please, categorize your issues (ALL of them), feel free to agree with other peoples issues (but be SPECIFIC), and stay ON TOPIC!
THANKS
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
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Thanks, squshy 7, for offering to compile a list of all the issues!
Method of Update:
Downloaded Samsung tool (.exe) from Samsung website
Bugs:
O/S - Time without Signal. Gotta toggle airplane mode to fix it.
Browser - Also seeing checkerboard effect when zooming/panning
Messaging - Not sure if it's the network, Handcent or EB13 but I'm receiving text messages with a space after each letter. If I restart Handcent it goes away but then comes back intermittently. Not sure if anyone else is seeing this issue.

[App Dev]Location Manager 1.2 (need help testing other devices)

Location Manager 1.2​
This is my first yet-to-be-published app in the android forum so I am excited to see how it goes. I have thoroughly tested it on my HTC Aria but I would like to see the results on other phones. The idea is as follows:
IDEA​Assume that you take your phone to different to different places and you are annoyed of turning off wifi, turning on gps and placing your phone on vibrate whenever you go to certain places. This program simply lets you keep specific profiles for specific places (such as your home, school or workplace). This saves you time, patience, as well as battery.
For example, I go to school and I turn off my gps, my wifi, and my Sound. When I go to work, I normally keep my sound on, my gps off, and my wifi on. I keep this program running and it simply takes the location from gps/wifi/cell tower(whichever is on) and it lets you program locations using an address and if it sees that I am there, it will run that profile. Thankfully, it also lets my override my profiles just in case I want to use google maps in school or keep my sound on at work.
Version Control​Version 1.0 - The first version which has basic functionality with wifi and sound control. The settings page exists but does not function. The next version will have bluetooth support and full settings functionality.
Version 1.2 - This version has new icons and has functionality for settings page. Everything in the app should now work but may not
Help​Please post on this thread whether this app works for you or if you are having difficulties.
Downloads (also available below to xda users)​Version 1 - http://bit.ly/qW4l0A
Version 1.2 - http://bit.ly/pxCzUZ
Thanks for downloading my app ​
i always wanted something like that
On my HTC Inspire I get a force-close when I try to "add location" -> "update map".
@Gene Pool - I just discovered that stupid error. Ill fix it in the next version, but basically you are supposed to enter the address first and then press update to update the map. In the next version Ill make it say that
Giving it a go go on Samsung galaxy s2 running villianrom 2.0
Installed, sadly getting FC´s when starting the app
If anyone is willing to try a super unstable (yet newer) version of the app, please try out the following apk file. The settings page does not work but it fixes several gps fixing bugs which relate to the force closes.
-Thank You
Seems like I had to turn on GPS BEFORE starting the app. Now it force closes when choosing to add a location
Ive tried the beta version you posted, everything works except from adding a location, it still fc's on me.
Thanks for the hard work, it's time for a easy to use alternative to tasker
I tried the latest version, but I couldn't see the map. I can press Update Map, but no map appears. Just an empty raster.
On my wildfire I can't read the text at bottom(at main screen), it says "Settings page does not work yet. This is the alpha version."
There is some text below that, but it doesn't fit on my screen. And in landscape I can't see anything below Longitude.
On the about screen, I can't look further than "keeping unnecessary things running" on portrait.
I think it's better to put About and Settings into Menu, because most of the time you won't need it.
When adding/editting a location it's a little bit confusing. I think I'd prefer a dropdown menu for wifi/sounds. Values like: Wifi on, Wifi off, don't change.
When you leave the Profile Name empty, it'd be nice to get a default value.
When I press "Edit locations", and then use my back button, the application closes. I'd like to go back to main screen instead. When I open Edit Locations after adding locations/reading about/settings, and I press back button I need to press it serveral times, but nothing happens. After a few times it closes the application.
And I prefer imagebuttons instead of "edit" button, I'd be nice to have the edit button on the right.
It looks like your using LinearLayout with default Horizontal orientation. RelativeLayouts would be beter in some cases.
Latest comment, I think normal users don't care about his/her current Latitude/Longitude/Accuracy data. I think you could remove that.
Ok, that's it for now. I hope you can use some of my feedback
EDIT: Another bug, I need to kill the application to prevend it from using my GPS 24/7. I can't stop it the normal way. Also, I think it's better to use a service instead of Activity for things like this.
I Cant thank you guys enough for helping test the app. Anyway, I will apply those feedback into a new version and post again. Also, would you say the first one is better or the second one? I tested the new version today while going to work and I discovered several errors in GPS acquisition.
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EDIT:
Version 1.2 just got released - please try it out and it has incorporated several of the features you guys suggested.
Looks better than previous versions. But...Is there a way to delete locations?
Next one will have that and Bluetooth and backlight settings.
Sent from my Liberty using XDA App

Bugs with The Express ROM

I have some bugs for the Express Rom, maybe someone can shoot it to one of the guys, since I cant post in the dev group.
In landscape mode, click (touch) on the "people" widget and the mail widget will open, if you have a widget next to the "messages" widget, touching the messages widget will go to the app next to it.
Also in Landscape mode looking at the People Favorites/4G widget, the 4G widgets need to be re-sized, as the white blocks are covering the people favorite apps (top left corner)
In "all apps", touch menu button popup you will see weather options, touch snowball and you get a FC
lol was going to post photos but cant do that either lol
how many to go till I can?
ok well those things are minor but thought I would post them
First, I would like to post this in the dev thread but like the OP I am in "10 post purgatory". I am enjoying the ROM - it is the 4th or 5th that I have flashed on the EVO and hands down the best.
I was a little scary waiting for the install to finish 30-35 minutes but patience is a virtue in this case.......
I am running the Express ROM 3.6.1 and had a couple of issues:
The HTC bookmarks uninstall/install issue I fixed by installing the apk posted in the dev thread with root explorer into the data/app_s folder and then changing the permissions to match the rest of the widgets in that folder. re-booted and re-installed the widget - worked perfectly.
The lockscreen apps/weather bug is still a problem for me - even after wiping 3 times, using the wipe.zip, and re-flashing. Tried various wipes and re-flashes and nothing worked, yes I followed the instructions posted in the dev thread for Personalize, Rosie, then Short Cut Lockscreen, then back button and power off, power on - waiting for the RC to fix this.
Have also had issues with ending calls that are answered from the lockscreen or originated in voicemail.
Also, haven't seen anyone else complain of this but the voicemail icon doesn't display the counter with un-viewed voicemails. The mail and messenger icons do have the counters however. Has anyone else seen/fixed this one?
I would love to see some options for modding the clock on the lockscreen - even if it just to change the color.
Edit: forgot to mention I installed the calculator widget on one of the home screens and it centers on the screen. After re-booting it moved to the upper right corner of the screen, uninstalled and re-installed and it goes back to the correct position - odd.
All in all, a great ROM - many thanks to the developers for all the work and the support going on over in the development section.
Hey,
The express rom is a great rom but just like many of the roms out there it is a WIP and the devs know that there all glitches and they are working their buts off to get us amazing roms because the evos developers just take care of us so much better then so many other phones and we are really thankful for them. But since they are still working on it we just need to give them time to work all the bugs out and when it is all done we will have one heck of a rom! We just have to be patient but that is the least we can do for out devs
I hope I helped If I did please hit the thanks!
Stevo
As far as touching a widget and having the app next to it open up, that's what the OP for the rom is referring to when he says 'much resizing needs to be done'. I believe it's because of the resolution differences. Editing M10s is apparently very frustrating and time consuming, as this ROM (or variations of it) has been being worked on for roughly a year , since The_Platypus started it. (There was also someone involved at the very beginning, but I forget who)
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scottspa74 said:
As far as touching a widget and having the app next to it open up, that's what the OP for the rom is referring to when he says 'much resizing needs to be done'. I believe it's because of the resolution differences. Editing M10s is apparently very frustrating and time consuming, as this ROM (or variations of it) has been being worked on for roughly a year , since The_Platypus started it. (There was also someone involved at the very beginning, but I forget who)
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sac23 ported the Flyer originally, I believe, and then justinswidebody was the first one who tried the Express (after my incessant begging, lol). The platty jumped on, if I recall correctly.
Bingo. Yeah, I remembered justinswidebody shortly after posting,....but completely forgot about sac23
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only bug ive seen is the linking people together from my other accs ie facebook twitter tango..... btw dont get the themed one they suck because its someone elses style...so get 3.6.0 and run it with the anthrax og evo4g kernel...ftw
after 2 weeks on the ROM....
The install has started to become somewhat unstable - I am getting random FC's and screen lockups that require me to remove the battery and reboot. After it was first installed, it ran very smoothly except for the known bugs..
At some point I will probably go thru the wipe procedure and re-install to see if it happens again.
I did notice one other issue (probably a re-sizing issue) with the calculator widget. The display truncates in the portrait mode. It displays correctly in horizontal mode, but then the keyboard has the problem of when you push the far left or far right keys, it rotates the display to the next home screen......
one more thing.....
I guess I should re-iterate what I said in post 2 that I love this ROM (3.6.1 themed) and appreciate all the work going on in dev forum. I am just posting these notes because I know that work is ongoing on the RC release and I hope someone will stumble over here and see them.
So here is another observation - The Bluetooth link to the hands free system (Argos) in my MBZ has been acting strange for the last week. It always pairs reliably when I get in the car but it sometimes will not transfer the audio to the vehicle's system (even though the phone and the car both say they are connected. Lately, I have had to manually cycle the Bluetooth off and then back on to get it to work. I have run a few other custom ROMs and not experienced this. For sometime pryor to installing this ROM I was running the Kinged Shooter and then the rooted stock 4.53......
The Argos is Bluetooth 1.2 - not sure if that matters though.
Thanks again for all the hard work.

[Q] Malicious daily "alarm"

I have an issue that is making me crazy. Starting about 1 month ago, my N7 plays a very annoying "tune" for about 1-2 minutes precisely at 12:35 AM every day.
Some specifics:
- volume cannot be controlled or muted
- the "tune" that is played is not one of the normal choices. It is kind of crude sounding (like MIDI).
- does not provide any notification of any kind or show up as a running app
- does not appear to be associated with clock or calendar
- the only way to stop it is to power off
Steps I have taken to try to kill this thing (leaving out the obvious)
- "soft" factory reset/restore from N7 Settings menu - fail
- "Hard" facory reset using power/volume controls. Did not do a restore.. Only logged onto wireless and into my Google account . - fail
- complete wipe/reflash using adb/fastboot/nakasi image from Google developer page instructions. - fail
I'm a complete Android noob, but not a software/hardware noob. This defies logic to me. I found reference to a very similar problem on another forum, but the post was never answered. I have several other Android devices and none have this issue. I'm convinced that this is something malicious. Where is this thing hiding that it can survive a reflash? Please help, I'm beginning to think my N7 is haunted.
Bump for help
Sorry to bump this but it appears that the views have stopped and so far no replies. As noted in my original post I have seen this issue reported elsewhere but not solved. I even tried loading Cyanogenmod and it's still there! I realize that asking for help on you first post is asking a lot, but I really could use some help/suggestions. Is there somewhere in the file system I should look for the code that is running this? Are there monitoring tools I could use to identify the process that is running? Are there log files somewhere I could look at?
Besides being really annoying, it's hard to feel secure when something like this keeps coming back after the device has supposedly been wiped multiple times. If I can't solve it, it's probably going to get beaten to a pulp with a sledgehammer! Thanks for any suggestions.
gdbbcmi said:
I have an issue that is making me crazy. Starting about 1 month ago, my N7 plays a very annoying "tune" for about 1-2 minutes precisely at 12:35 AM every day.
Some specifics:
- volume cannot be controlled or muted
- the "tune" that is played is not one of the normal choices. It is kind of crude sounding (like MIDI).
- does not provide any notification of any kind or show up as a running app
- does not appear to be associated with clock or calendar
- the only way to stop it is to power off
Steps I have taken to try to kill this thing (leaving out the obvious)
- "soft" factory reset/restore from N7 Settings menu - fail
- "Hard" facory reset using power/volume controls. Did not do a restore.. Only logged onto wireless and into my Google account . - fail
- complete wipe/reflash using adb/fastboot/nakasi image from Google developer page instructions. - fail
I'm a complete Android noob, but not a software/hardware noob. This defies logic to me. I found reference to a very similar problem on another forum, but the post was never answered. I have several other Android devices and none have this issue. I'm convinced that this is something malicious. Where is this thing hiding that it can survive a reflash? Please help, I'm beginning to think my N7 is haunted.
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Solved!
This is solved. I'd like to say I know exactly what worked, but apparently after the umpteenth wipe/re-flash, the poltergeist got bored and moved on. Thanks for thinking about it.
gdbbcmi said:
Sorry to bump this but it appears that the views have stopped and so far no replies. As noted in my original post I have seen this issue reported elsewhere but not solved. I even tried loading Cyanogenmod and it's still there! I realize that asking for help on you first post is asking a lot, but I really could use some help/suggestions. Is there somewhere in the file system I should look for the code that is running this? Are there monitoring tools I could use to identify the process that is running? Are there log files somewhere I could look at?
Besides being really annoying, it's hard to feel secure when something like this keeps coming back after the device has supposedly been wiped multiple times. If I can't solve it, it's probably going to get beaten to a pulp with a sledgehammer! Thanks for any suggestions.
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