Okay this is a HUGE a huge disappointment to me. I have a Netgear b/g/n router and it seems to drop the N connection (where I get 3/4 bars) and return to the g connection (1/4 bars) and limits speeds to 5mbps. Please tell me I am not the only one with this problem and that it will be fixed. I know I've not heard this problem before...
P.s. I am sitting in the same room with my Xbox Slim and it maintains n the whole time, so no, I don't think its my router...
Wow. Almost 50 views and no comments. I wonder if it's just mine. Anyone know the exchange policy at Costco after 2 weeks?
Ive heard some wireless routers advertised as N can only really support one wireless N connection at a time.
Shouldn't have gotten a netgear router.
Droidicus said:
Okay this is a HUGE a huge disappointment to me. I have a Netgear b/g/n router and it seems to drop the N connection (where I get 3/4 bars) and return to the g connection (1/4 bars) and limits speeds to 5mbps. Please tell me I am not the only one with this problem and that it will be fixed. I know I've not heard this problem before...
P.s. I am sitting in the same room with my Xbox Slim and it maintains n the whole time, so no, I don't think its my router...
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Why do you need "N" to work? Do you have internet speeds that fast? Are you getting dsl or cable running at 300mbps? I mean thats the only logic for wanting N on your phone, to have the internet be that fast. You do realize, the internet wont be any faster just because it travels over N vs G. If your internet is 10mbps, its going to be 10mbps over both G and N.
Recently my friend insisted that her new router be N, even though it was more expensive. She insisted she wants the fastest router. Then I said "You know...your home DSL is only 1.5mbps...having G or N won't matter, it will travel at 1.5mbps on G or N either way, you can't even max out G yet"
So my question to you is, why do you need N speeds coming to your phone. Are you under the impression this will make your internet faster? Is your internet speed 300mbps? If your internet is standard DSL or cable, you haven't even reached the top G speeds yet.
Is this making any sense?
I mean unless you do file sharing, thats a different story, but what kind of massive file sharing would you do between your phone and the router? LOL phones don't even hold that much information.
So even if they come out with Z technology thats 1 million times faster than current N, if your home internet is still standard DSL, doesn't matter if you run G/N/Z or any other alphabet letter.
take care
I asked a similar question a while back. This was the answer I got and it proved to be accurate.
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The Vibrant's wifi is, as far as I know, 2.4 GHz only, but a typical dual band router setup does b/g only on 2.4 and n only at 5.8. If you have the option to do b/g/n on the 2.4 GHz band it should work.
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SamsungGalaxySVibrant said:
Why do you need "N" to work? Do you have internet speeds that fast? Are you getting dsl or cable running at 300mbps? I mean thats the only logic for wanting N on your phone, to have the internet be that fast. You do realize, the internet wont be any faster just because it travels over N vs G. If your internet is 10mbps, its going to be 10mbps over both G and N.
Recently my friend insisted that her new router be N, even though it was more expensive. She insisted she wants the fastest router. Then I said "You know...your home DSL is only 1.5mbps...having G or N won't matter, it will travel at 1.5mbps on G or N either way, you can't even max out G yet"
So my question to you is, why do you need N speeds coming to your phone. Are you under the impression this will make your internet faster? Is your internet speed 300mbps? If your internet is standard DSL or cable, you haven't even reached the top G speeds yet.
Is this making any sense?
I mean unless you do file sharing, thats a different story, but what kind of massive file sharing would you do between your phone and the router? LOL phones don't even hold that much information.
So even if they come out with Z technology thats 1 million times faster than current N, if your home internet is still standard DSL, doesn't matter if you run G/N/Z or any other alphabet letter.
take care
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why have a car that can do 60 mph when the car that does 30 mph will get you where you're going, eventually. /s
vibrant + allshare + NAS = happy tunes anywhere in my house. N just gets my tunes to me faster/farther.
your car comparison sucked.
jamesd86 said:
why have a car that can do 60 mph when the car that does 30 mph will get you where you're going, eventually. /s
vibrant + allshare + NAS = happy tunes anywhere in my house. N just gets my tunes to me faster/farther.
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Your car analogy made no sense. If you have a ford focus that tops out 85 mph, and a ferarri that tops out 260mph. However, you are limited to driving around at 30 miles per hour, doesn't matter which car you drive. Since you are limited to 30mph, the focus and ferarri are going to get you from point A to point B at the same time.
Same **** with G versus N on your vibrant. N can handle higher speeds, but if you are LIMITED BY YOUR DSL OR CABLE SPEED, THEN both will run at the same speed, until you max out G. The only way to max out G is to have dsl or internet that runs faster than G is capable of.
Again, only benefit of running N on your phone is for massive file sharing really fast, but your phone doesn't even hold that much info, so that makes no sense. Or the other benefit is getting signal at greater distances. Chances are your router that is running g/n is going to provide just as power a signal to your phone running G or N.
SO AGAIN YOU WON'T NOTICE ANY DIFFERENCE RUNNING N OR G ON YOUR PHONE IF YOUR MAIN CONCERN IS INTERNET SPEEDS.
UGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Lets see. First off, if you do any media streaming via wireless in your house, you want the higher speeds. Second, I like to vpn from my laptop to my computer (so I don't have to leave the couch). The difference in the smoothness when on an n network vs. a g network is very notable. Third... And probably most important in a setup like this.. A single g device connected to an n router will slow ALL the wireless devices on the network down to n speed, regardless of what they are communicating with. It is this very reason I have two separate access points. One to handle n traffic and one to handle b/g traffic. So unless he wants to allows his whole network down, he should probably try to stick with n.
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SamsungGalaxySVibrant said:
Your car analogy made no sense. If you have a ford focus that tops out 85 mph, and a ferarri that tops out 260mph. However, you are limited to driving around at 30 miles per hour, doesn't matter which car you drive. Since you are limited to 30mph, the focus and ferarri are going to get you from point A to point B at the same time.
Same **** with G versus N on your vibrant. N can handle higher speeds, but if you are LIMITED BY YOUR DSL OR CABLE SPEED, THEN both will run at the same speed, until you max out G. The only way to max out G is to have dsl or internet that runs faster than G is capable of.
Again, only benefit of running N on your phone is for massive file sharing really fast, but your phone doesn't even hold that much info, so that makes no sense. Or the other benefit is getting signal at greater distances. Chances are your router that is running g/n is going to provide just as power a signal to your phone running G or N.
SO AGAIN YOU WON'T NOTICE ANY DIFFERENCE RUNNING N OR G ON YOUR PHONE IF YOUR MAIN CONCERN IS INTERNET SPEEDS.
UGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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my car analogy doesnt make sense because you either a. have no sense of sarcasm or b. (i think its this one) u took my analogy and completely f'ed it up.
btw, i'm on an N network and my browser on the phone really flies. might shoot down to g only and see if theres a difference or if the increase is because i'm coming from g1/mt3g.
edit: web browsing...not a huge difference, deff noticeable though. allshare on g only was not that good, took too long to start a song. I like my N! lol
People who say that you need a 300mbps connection at home to take advantage of Wireless N are just being silly. Not only is there better coverage with an N connection, but you will also have better speeds if you have a decently fast line (doesn't have to be over 54mbps even)-
I'm a Verizon FiOS user with a 25mbps symmetrical (same up and down) connection. The problem with many G routers is that although they say 54mbps its unlikely you're going to necessarily reach that under real conditions. For example the stock Verizon FiOS router actually limits my speeds a bit, to around 20mbps downstream. If you're trying to upload at the same time its going to be a little slower even. That's about all I can get, especially when further away from the router. However, with a new wireless N router which I've just recently installed, I can max out full 25mbps downstream, and even have the same going through upstream at the same time. The range of the signal is better, and it even seems as if latency is slightly lower (or there's less 'jitter' in general). Wireless N allows for much smoother connectivity, and I would highly recommend it to anyone with a decently fast broadband connection.
Now having said all of that, you may not care about ~20mbps vs 25mbps (speed difference for downloads in my case) on a phone, and that makes sense as it probably can't even render pages fast enough to take advantage of that. But still, wireless N makes sense to have in general.
Its your router. Force it to use only N.
I find it slightly humorous that I feel compelled to justify WHY I want to connect via N. In future posts I will remember to justify all of my needs/desires first, I.e although I have a navigation system on my Yukon Denali, I dint have it in my Infiniti, so I want the gps to work.
Like others have said before, its faster when streaming videos, it has a much farther and stronger signal (i have a large house) etc. As to why I don't just force it to use n only, genius!.... I have a Wii, PS3, older xbox360, 2 desktops and 3 laptops depending on g. Currently only 3 devices on n. I like to share media. Is that enough of an explanation?
As I swype this response, I can see the wi-fi bar go from 1 bar to 3. It seems schizo.
On Speedtest, when I have n it pegs out at 10mbps, I can tell when its on g because it seems to tap out at 5mbps every time.
Again I just thought I would see if others have experienced similar issues.
Lock on dang it! You know you want to! It's the stronger signal!
XfooYen said:
I asked a similar question a while back. This was the answer I got and it proved to be accurate.
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By the way, THIS very well might be the issue in my current configuration!
Thanks to all the productive responses!
My Vibrant doesnt do that.
I have a Trendnet router
If you still have the recipt they still be able to return it or at least change it?
I have come full circle my brothas! My wireless router has n on both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz bands. Thus, I should be getting the n on my 2.4Ghz-only phone. Ah, but here is issue again! The reason, among few, that I bought the wireless a/b/g/n router in the first place was for the distance magnification inherent in wireless n. This, you see, is how I came upon the issue in the first place. 1 bar alone do I get with the b/g signal, but 3 bars pop up now and again for a short time making me believe that the phone cannot hold on to the n signal!
Alas, my 30 days with this phone are coming soon. I think I shall exchange it on the morrow...
Does anyone know how to see if the Vibrant is using N or G? I gather from the post you can check it doing a speed test, but the internet connection would be the bottleneck. I took am looking for N Wifi so that I can stream wirelessly.
Droidicus said:
Like others have said before, its faster when streaming videos, it has a much farther and stronger signal (i have a large house) etc. As to why I don't just force it to use n only, genius!.... I have a Wii, PS3, older xbox360, 2 desktops and 3 laptops depending on g. Currently only 3 devices on n. I like to share media. Is that enough of an explanation?
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My understanding is, If you have g devices active on your n network, your entire wireless network will be limited to g speeds. This may well be your culprit
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i agree with ConceptVBS. i had a similar problem with a netbook connecting at G speeds. i changed my network to N-only and now everything connects at full speed.
not sure the whole network would be slowed by one b/g device. i have a blackberry (for work) that connects at G, but my wife's desktop still connected at N speeds (270-300 Mbs).
I've noticed that my Note has been getting really slow wifi speeds. I've tried speedtest.net using the same server, and my laptop will consistently get around 18mbps, while my Note will only get 3mbps. My Samsung Infuse will get around 12+ mbps. I've tried turning wifi off and back on, but still not dice.
That's weird... Are you running a custom rom and/or kernal?
GallardosEggrollShop said:
That's weird... Are you running a custom rom and/or kernal?
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Bone stock.
me too
I thought it was just my imagination but when connected to wifi my connectivity is slow as treacle. Stock standard config with a few apps installed on my Note.
Anyone have any ideas please?
Seems Samsung just uses a very bad wifi chipset or useless antenna. This is a general Samsung issue but it has the worst wifi.
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I've got no wifi issues whatsoever. How is the wifi on your computer/notebook? If you're running windows on your computer try this program: inSSIDer
You can determine which channel is the least crowded. You can also see which channel gives you the highest signal strength.
Hope this helps..
Steelduines said:
I've got no wifi issues whatsoever. How is the wifi on your computer/notebook? If you're running windows on your computer try this program: inSSIDer
You can determine which channel is the least crowded. You can also see which channel gives you the highest signal strength.
Hope this helps..
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Totally agree ... its something related to the wifi hotspot and the channel you are using .... i get over 20 mbps upload and download over wifi .... i connect my note with my laptop using connectify ,, and my laptop is connected via LAN 100 mbps connection (yes its really 100 mbps , m in southkorea and speed here is just the best) my laptop gets around 100 Mbps on speed test.net but my note sticks around 20 mbps ....
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Jesus, can I move in?
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If you see the same results with the Note close (same room) as the router then i suggest you fiddle with the router wifi settings.. pick a different SSID channel f'rinstance
FYI i get 16Mbps on the Note, and many users have reported up to around 50mbps or so..
gundam83 said:
I've noticed that my Note has been getting really slow wifi speeds. I've tried speedtest.net using the same server, and my laptop will consistently get around 18mbps, while my Note will only get 3mbps. My Samsung Infuse will get around 12+ mbps. I've tried turning wifi off and back on, but still not dice.
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I think some issues you don't even have to worry about, anything probably over 3 mbps you phone browser wont load the page any faster because of system limitations, the only thing wear you'll notice a different is downloading studff, but I don't see any time you would need to, I get about 20-30 mbps on my note, but the pages don't load any faster than my 3g which is normally around 3-4 mbps.
~56mbit at work
12mbit at home
My Wifi is slow as molasses too. It's ridiculous. I'm not even sure what "change your ssid" even means. Would somebody be good enough to explain a little further.? It's ridiculous that I can't watch youtube on my Note while at home.
Canuck_in_Japan said:
My Wifi is slow as molasses too. It's ridiculous. I'm not even sure what "change your ssid" even means. Would somebody be good enough to explain a little further.? It's ridiculous that I can't watch youtube on my Note while at home.
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Ssid is the broadcast name of the wireless, so virginbroadband or whatever you see when you're searching for networks.
Selecting a different channel changes the spectrum that the Wifi uses. If you're in a crowded area, most people will use the default channel which means everyone's on the same spectrum and it can cause a lot of interference, so changing will often create a more stable bandwidth and therefor increase speeds.
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bumpin' an old thread here, got here through google.
Got the same problem, while my mate gets +50Mbit I only get 10 to 15Mbit on the same wifi.
Any idea how this comes?
Running PA 2.51.