Need recommendations for better sound quality PLZ - Galaxy S II General

Need your "A + b & C " recommendations for better sound / player... . how to improve and make the most of sound quality.
And plz only recommendations that have been tested.
THX

Try the sound quality posts in XDA Samsung SGS2 forum .
Though from my phone none have made any difference quality wise and i am happy with stock anyway .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=86757903
jje

Poweramp on smiley face or rock preset plus volume + and my koss portapros have given me amazing sound.
Of course the most important factor in this are the headphones.
Every thing else is useless if you don't have a good pair of cans ;-)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122361
Regards.

yaronAD said:
Need your "A + b & C " recommendations for better sound / player... . how to improve and make the most of sound quality.
And plz only recommendations that have been tested.
THX
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Just use any player which isn't the stock one and you'll be fine. Dam i can't stand how bad it sucks, it's a shame that samsung puts a multimedia powerhouse like this on the market and loads it with such a crappy player. Sure the iphone is a stupid, uncustomizable brick, but at least it packs a decent player out of the box

vnvman said:
Just use any player which isn't the stock one and you'll be fine. Dam i can't stand how bad it sucks, it's a shame that samsung puts a multimedia powerhouse like this on the market and loads it with such a crappy player. Sure the iphone is a stupid, uncustomizable brick, but at least it packs a decent player out of the box
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I just wonder did early devices have better sound output as so many are complaining now .
jje

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I have to say the stock player is just as good or better than Poweramp (that I paid for) Ran side by side on same songs with my Klipsh and Bose headphones and the sound from the stock was better, this is no eq modifications and with eq modifications. I don't understand why people are *****ing, I previously owned the Iphone 3G, 3GS, and 4 and the GS2 is just as good if not better.
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cc999 said:
I have to say the stock player is just as good or better than Poweramp (that I paid for) Ran side by side on same songs with my Klipsh and Bose headphones and the sound from the stock was better, this is no eq modifications and with eq modifications. I don't understand why people are *****ing, I previously owned the Iphone 3G, 3GS, and 4 and the GS2 is just as good if not better.
Thats more or less what i find though i am retesting a few sound mods including PowerAmp .I am at a loss to find any difference even on stock player and stock headphones .Though most of music files are AAC+ Lame converted with a high bit rate and no bangy bangy boom boom stuff .
jje
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@cc999
@JJEgan
which roms are you two using? I'm on KE7 and the stock player is not a good sound...

okiru880 said:
@cc999
@JJEgan
which roms are you two using? I'm on KE7 and the stock player is not a good sound...
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Sound is the same on very first Samsung rom for me KWDD May 2011 same sound on KG6 .
Tested again today .
Stock Player v Mix Zing Player v Power Amp using varying quality earphones .
Specificity was to listen to certain instruments within songs across all three players and headphones .
Result best sound a Joint First Place STOCK PLAYER AND Mix zing player .
Headphones stock Samsung adequate better performance with better earphones .
Sound is very very subjective hearing age sound format conversion range etc etc often compounded by the users crap music choices .
Worth reading this thread though i find no advantage in the apps used .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122361
Particularly
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14958599&postcount=42
jje

Better headphones.
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You'll need a portable amp for SGS2. SGS2 has very weak amp.

nraudigy2 said:
You'll need a portable amp for SGS2. SGS2 has very weak amp.
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I find it hard to go any higher than 7 far to high and many are fine on 4 sound level even with stock headphones .
jje

2.3.5
Is it my imagination, or is the headphone music sound quality better on 2.3.5? Not overwhelmingly good, but listenable (which was not the case before).

rhsauer said:
Is it my imagination, or is the headphone music sound quality better on 2.3.5? Not overwhelmingly good, but listenable (which was not the case before).
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I'm not an audiophile but quality in KI3 is waaaay better!
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Yea, I agree with the sound being better on 2.3.5. I use custom molded in ear monitors with the S2, I definitely notice an improvement in sound quality!

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DHD music quality

hi all!
some of you are happy to have DHD already.
Tell me please how does it work as music player? Is it better than older HTC phones? (or generally phones) Can it play music as good as mid level mp3 players like iPOD, Creative, Sony etc.?
I mean with headphones, not stock off course.
best regards, Wojtek
I recall clock saying the sound was great using earphones. not sure if its the stock tho
The DHD has a good ADSP unit and as such, you should experience a good multimedia experience. This is of course dependant on other addons (DSPManager works great, but that requires modifying the framework) as well as upon the quality of your hardware (earphones - wired ones like Sennheinser and Bose work great).
You SHOULD bear in mind, that this is primarily a phone, NOT a multimedia unit.
Pozdrawiam ;]
I am listening to music on my HD right now!
It sounds incredible, awesome quality from the phone when using some quality earbuds. Sounds just like my iPod Video.
There is also the option of enabling Dolby Mobile, or SRS, or other EQ presets.
What's really nice is that you can scan the network for UPnP servers with the built-in Music app (eg. Windows Media, TVersity, XBMC and many more - I use foobar2000) and access music libraries stored on computers or NAS drives etc. Very handy! I think it works for pictures and videos too. Looks like part of HTC's DLNA implementation.
FM radio also sounds alright too. Haven't moved into a location where I could get full FM strength yet, but indoors on my headphones it's nice enough.
Can you tell me what are the settings available in dolby and SRS ?
Thanks
thanks guys, that was really helpful!
I was worried, because most phones sounds very flat. Mostly I listen to rock music so powerful low and dynamic high frequencies is a must have.
Now I use Nokia E65 with 3,5mm adaptor and KOSS earbuds. I hope there will be an major upgrade between E65 and DHD in case of sound + might consider changing earphones to AKG's.
is music and media playback can be enhanced with the dolby (via speaker) ?
The music quality is a way better than the desire. I would say it is on par with the iphone.
Is there any ex Galaxy S owners here who could provide an 'HONEST' opinion please.
The SGS is known as having an excellent Music App and delivers excellent quality audio.
It will be great to hear the DHD can achieve a similar result.
Thanks.
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Can you tell me what are the settings available in dolby and SRS ?
Thanks
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In the Music app (at least; haven't looked at any video playback yet) there's a button at the top right and an item on the Menu button called Sound Enhancer.
On there, you have "No effects", "Dolby Mobile", "SRS enhancement", and "Equalizer (headphones only)". Next to Equalizer, there's a variety of presets like Pop, Rock, Bass boost, Treble boost, Vocal boost, and a few more. I haven't found any means of actually adjusting the Dolby or SRS - it just seems to be an on/off thing - same with the EQ, there's no manual band control that I can see. It's either Nothing, Dolby, SRS, or EQ+a preset.
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is music and media playback can be enhanced with the dolby (via speaker) ?
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Dolby mobile and SRS makes a difference to the music being played in both the headphones, and out of the phone's speaker. Dolby seems to push more bass and adds a mild surround-like feeling. SRS seems to boost the bass and treble and make the sound "stand out" more. Both nice effects, worth playing with on various kinds of headphone. It's a preferential thing - the sound is fantastic even with no effects. They seem to make the external speaker a little louder (perhaps as a result of extra treble?) which, I must admit, is tinny and a little quiet, but I was expecting that.
Demiourgos said:
thanks guys, that was really helpful!
I was worried, because most phones sounds very flat. Mostly I listen to rock music so powerful low and dynamic high frequencies is a must have.
Now I use Nokia E65 with 3,5mm adaptor and KOSS earbuds. I hope there will be an major upgrade between E65 and DHD in case of sound + might consider changing earphones to AKG's.
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I used to have some KOSS The Plugs, and I miss them like hell, great earphones especially at the price. I lost mine It's a pity I don't have them any more to test on the DHD, but I'm certain you will find them to sound fantastic on this phone.
I'm using some generic Sony-Ericsson Walkman headphones with some custom earplugs, and they sound brilliant on this phone, so I can only imagine better headphones would sound... well, let's use some Apple lingo - "magical".
The bass is certainly powerful and upper frequencies are crisp. Hopefully you'll find it the same... I appreciate listening experience is a very subjective thing.
Demiourgos said:
thanks guys, that was really helpful!
I was worried, because most phones sounds very flat. Mostly I listen to rock music so powerful low and dynamic high frequencies is a must have.
Now I use Nokia E65 with 3,5mm adaptor and KOSS earbuds. I hope there will be an major upgrade between E65 and DHD in case of sound + might consider changing earphones to AKG's.
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I listen to deathcore and metalcore stuffs, having a low and dynamic Hi-F would indeed be superb with the open triplets, massive double paddle bass and all the squeaking pinching.. goes sexy on the distortion sound too
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In the Music app (at least; haven't looked at any video playback yet) there's a button at the top right and an item on the Menu button called Sound Enhancer.
On there, you have "No effects", "Dolby Mobile", "SRS enhancement", and "Equalizer (headphones only)". Next to Equalizer, there's a variety of presets like Pop, Rock, Bass boost, Treble boost, Vocal boost, and a few more. I haven't found any means of actually adjusting the Dolby or SRS - it just seems to be an on/off thing - same with the EQ, there's no manual band control that I can see. It's either Nothing, Dolby, SRS, or EQ+a preset.
Dolby mobile and SRS makes a difference to the music being played in both the headphones, and out of the phone's speaker. Dolby seems to push more bass and adds a mild surround-like feeling. SRS seems to boost the bass and treble and make the sound "stand out" more. Both nice effects, worth playing with on various kinds of headphone. It's a preferential thing - the sound is fantastic even with no effects. They seem to make the external speaker a little louder (perhaps as a result of extra treble?) which, I must admit, is tinny and a little quiet, but I was expecting that.
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sweet, i love to hear that SRS and DOLBY makes media playback via the internal speaker a lil bit louder.. cuz it has been metallic and empty for the HTC Desire. Yes we all know that people dont enjoy music via the speakers but it would be handy sometime to have at least a decent one.. just for shortplaybacks or watching video with buddies..
does it work for youtube perhaps? cuz i see people tend to watch youtube vids with friends.. that is where a decent speaker goes along well or does it work only with the music player
override182 said:
I listen to deathcore and metalcore stuffs, having a low and dynamic Hi-F would indeed be superb with the open triplets, massive double paddle bass and all the squeaking pinching.. goes sexy on the distortion sound too
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I have no deathcore to hand at the moment, but can give it a shot when I get home and report back, ahhaha
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does it work for youtube perhaps? cuz i see people tend to watch youtube vids with friends.. that is where a decent speaker goes along well or does it work only with the music player
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Since the sound enhancement settings are only accessible from within the Music application, I don't know whether these enhancements only affect the music played in this app, or if the settings "stick" and apply to all media. I have no data or Wifi available at the moment to test out YouTube, but will report back tonight unless someone else would like to try.
I wonder if the Dolby/SRS/EQ stuff is done in software, or in the DAC/audio chip. Would be nice if it was the latter, as in the future we may end up with an external app that may offer more control over it, like some older HTC phones used to have.
Thought id post some screen shots of the music player and settings and what have you.
d0pefish said:
I have no deathcore to hand at the moment, but can give it a shot when I get home and report back, ahhaha
Since the sound enhancement settings are only accessible from within the Music application, I don't know whether these enhancements only affect the music played in this app, or if the settings "stick" and apply to all media. I have no data or Wifi available at the moment to test out YouTube, but will report back tonight unless someone else would like to try.
I wonder if the Dolby/SRS/EQ stuff is done in software, or in the DAC/audio chip. Would be nice if it was the latter, as in the future we may end up with an external app that may offer more control over it, like some older HTC phones used to have.
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try Bring Me The Horizon : Visions and Asking Alexandria : The Final Episode.. tell me if it sounds awesome! Both songs have quite a dynamic range of tunes and even very low ones too
Beards said:
Is there any ex Galaxy S owners here who could provide an 'HONEST' opinion please.
The SGS is known as having an excellent Music App and delivers excellent quality audio.
It will be great to hear the DHD can achieve a similar result.
Thanks.
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Yes I can help, my friend is here with her HD and I had a galaxy s not long back..(sold this week)
Galaxy s vs Desire HD - music through loud speaker - Galaxy S kicks its butt.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music through standard supplied earphones - Galaxy S again sound better.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music with a set of sennheiser cx500 in the DHD (ebay £10, best earphones for the price, trust me) WOW, what a difference, lovely sound and good bass, on par with Galaxy S id say..
Basically the external speaker isn't that loud (its not bad but its just not loud enough...as always...thanks HTC)
The supplied headphons that come with the Desire HD are crap..
Get a good set of earphones (the sennheiser cx500 were just an example but I found them to be very good for the money)...the difference is like night and day.
So with a good set of earphones its easily on par with the Galaxy S and an IPod for that matter... Hope that helps.
EDIT- I also had a Desire and the sound even with the standard headphones was much better on the DHD
Nice to hear good stuff for music quality. Can anyone confirm If radio loudness is good or not with headsets (compared to mp3 listenning). Also It has got RDS support, right?
rixsta said:
Yes I can help, my friend is here with her HD and I had a galaxy s not long back..(sold this week)
Galaxy s vs Desire HD - music through loud speaker - Galaxy S kicks its butt.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music through standard supplied earphones - Galaxy S again sound better.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music with a set of sennheiser cx500 in the DHD (ebay £10, best earphones for the price, trust me) WOW, what a difference, lovely sound and good bass, on par with Galaxy S id say..
Basically the external speaker isn't that loud (its not bad but its just not loud enough...as always...thanks HTC)
The supplied headphons that come with the Desire HD are crap..
Get a good set of earphones (the sennheiser cx500 were just an example but I found them to be very good for the money)...the difference is like night and day.
So with a good set of earphones its easily on par with the Galaxy S and an IPod for that matter... Hope that helps.
EDIT- I also had a Desire and the sound even with the standard headphones was much better on the DHD
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Thanks mate, appreciate the honesty.
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Thanks mate, appreciate the honesty.
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Hello matey, no problem, really it just comes down to Samsung ship far better headphones in box than the HTC, once you get a decent set the DHD sound is dam good.
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Hello matey, no problem, really it just comes down to Samsung ship far better headphones in box than the HTC, once you get a decent set the DHD sound is dam good.
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Yes Rich, appreciate that.
My problem though is I do use the external speaker a lot.
I take an awful lot of video's of my 3yr old granddaughter and pass the phone around to show the rest of the family (when out & about that is.... Near a TV and I either use the TV Cable or DLNA).
Taking these video's and playing them back through the speaker is sheer bliss.
Hence my nightmare..... The SGS has an excellent camera and bloody good loudspeaker to boot.
I've a strong feeling the DHD I'm ordering soon will disappoint.

Audio (Music) quality on Headset

Hi everyone;
I am almost decided on doing away with my SE x10i for Desire HD. But I also have HD7 and iPhone4 on my mind.
My basic requirement is a cell phone with a good video quality (to watch movies/videos) and good audio quality (to enjoy music on). From what I have heard DHD has good video quality, worth watching videos/movies on, but I want to know how good is DHD's music quality on Head Sets? (I know it isn't much impressive with the speakers).
I really used to love the audio quality on my iPhone3G. Later I bought x10i which basically is not a good device for music. The reason I don't want to go for iPhone4 is small screen. To simply put how good is DHD compared to iphone series when it comes to music? & also is it any better then x10i?
For me, the DHD has great audio quality, I use a pair of Sennheiser CX500,very cheap and excellent quality, comparable to Shure plugs (so I've read). As a music player I use PowerAmp and together the sound quality is very good, even with the stock player. Music quality is important to, but I'm not an audiophile. Before I had a Samsung Omnia HD and SE W960i walkman phone and the DHD definitely has the best audio quality.
Audio is better than iPhone 3gs
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Thanks guys;
I think DHD it is then.
I just pray and hope I don't regret buying it like I did with x10i.
The sound should definitely be better than x10, but I don't think it will be better than iphone. Check the review on "gsmarena.com"
They talk about stereo crosstalk problems with headset on. The frequency range is good, but according to them the stereo crosstalk with headset is quite bad. I myself haven't listen to music that much and anyway I use the original HTC headset that comes with the phone. It's probably not the best option so can't really judge the audio quality, but for me and my needs it's enough.
I tried using my Sony XB700 headphones, and i must say that i'm very pleased with the sound quality! I'm almost about to ditch my Zune HD
While people are moaning no end about the speaker (which is not really that bad at all), the headphones quality (tested with the standard HTC headphones) is really impressive.
I would imagine its second to none with some decent headphones. Impressed.
XmUrF said:
The sound should definitely be better than x10, but I don't think it will be better than iphone. Check the review on "gsmarena.com"
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That would definitely be a disappointment, but if it is any better then the x10i I think it would do. X10i simply $uck$.
After I saw review on gsmarena, I'm worried about sound quality too. I guess digits don't lie, but I still can't believe in such poor result. Too bad that I can't test it anywhere, it's really impossible for me to find a place where I can put my hands and ears on DHD.
So any opinions will be helpful.
Actually while being unsatisfied with the external speakers, I'm really amazed by the sound quality through headphones/earplugs.
I use Sennheiser CX300II in-ear plugs, and can't say otherwise that I'm really pleased with the soundquality, especially compared to my old N95.
Luki3d said:
After I saw review on gsmarena, I'm worried about sound quality too. I guess digits don't lie, but I still can't believe in such poor result. Too bad that I can't test it anywhere, it's really impossible for me to find a place where I can put my hands and ears on DHD.
So any opinions will be helpful.
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Looks like we both are on the same boat now. Only way is to actually buy DHD and check it out. In my case I may have little to lose as I am sure it has better audio quality then x10i. Even if not it is over all better then x10i. I'll update in few days when (or if) I get DHD.
I too was impressed by the stock headphones that came with the phone, although they were lacking in bass they were very clear. I've got a pair of Sennheiser HD 485 home theater cans which i've tested the phone out with and i'm very pleasantly surprised, i've tried both stock music player and power amp and both sound great no complaints at all.
one of my friends got a vodafone one here in aus ....meanwhile im still waiting for my sim free one from handtec :\
anyway they used to have an iphone and both the DHD and the iphone sound average to me the DHD is probably above the iphone when it comes to clarity and EQ modes let you change it more than you can on the iphone where your limited to premade presets which just are ...meh the dolby really adds bass tho but still seems a bit artificial and sometimes the mids seemed a bit to harsh,
but on the whole both iphone and DHD have nothing on my cowon S9 so im not ready to stop carrying a dedicated player just yet, once my DHD arrives
headphones i used were Jays Q-jays dual armature IEM's
so yeah its ok but its not as good as dedicated devices
just listening to some test tracks now with my RE0's, ultrasone 780's and sennheiser mx760's.
its not bad, but my god it has A LOT of bass. the mids sound thin and artificial, but the treble is not too bad. its certainly better than the 2nd gen ipod touch, and i'd put it close to the iphone 4. if the mids didnt sound so....cheap it would be as good as the iphone 3GS/4.
it could sound better but its not bad. dropping the mids helps slightly, which can be done in power amp but not in the basic android player. the rock EQ preset helps a bit though. with this it sounds very close to the iphone 4.
dolby mobile sound is TERRIBLE. sounds like you've swallowed a sub woofer and put your head in a cardboard box. SRS is just trying to deafen you with harsh horrible artificial sound. avoid them two.
I think what you're saying marries up nicely to the GSMarena review.
To the OP: If sound quality is very important to you, and your ears can actually tell good sound quality, then I don't think this is the handset for you (unless its considerable other benefits outweigh that for you, but from your original post I'm not sure they do).
Potential Buyer said:
Thanks guys;
I think DHD it is then.
I just pray and hope I don't regret buying it like I did with x10i.
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I did regret buying an x10i, and I don't regret buying this. Great phone. Speaker is a little lame but very nice with headphones.
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NZtechfreak said:
To the OP: If sound quality is very important to you, and your ears can actually tell good sound quality, then I don't think this is the handset for you (unless its considerable other benefits outweigh that for you, but from your original post I'm not sure they do).
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Well ... all I want is sound quality that is at least equivalent to my old iPhone 3G, if not any better. That's all. I am not looking for a dedicated music player on a cell phone. I would go for iPod if I were. Would cost me much less.
I am also looking for good video quality to watch videos/movies on while traveling. This puts DHD on top of my list. Other alternative for me is iPad - but the hectic it carries when it comes to converting videos files to mp4 just kills it for me. Plus I want something that fits into my pockets.
Well, honestly, .mp4 files play and look quite good on dhd. However beware, not everything plays OK with the internal player and rock player is good only for .avis. Anything heavier and it struggles.
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Well, honestly, .mp4 files play and look quite good on dhd. However beware, not everything plays OK with the internal player and rock player is good only for .avis. Everything heavier and it struggles.
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Well as long as it plays .mp4 and .avi in good resolution I have no issues. The x10i plays DVD quality files in .mp4 format pretty well, so I guess DHD can do so also(?). HTC has been promoting the device as good for movies.
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Well as long as it plays .mp4 and .avi in good resolution I have no issues. The x10i plays DVD quality files in .mp4 format pretty well, so I guess DHD can do so also(?). HTC has been promoting the device as good for movies.
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It is good for movies. With Rock Player you can play any .avi file (well at least I haven't found one that can't be played). mp4 files however you can play only with the default player (with rock player's software decoding it's unwatchable) and the default player doesn't play every .mp4 file out there.

(Q) Any hope for better audio output ?

Yes, i now there was several threads among, but this mine is becose i really suffer with this problem. Im disapointed spent a lot of money and for the device with any satisfaction with the sound quality. Im little bit disappoined with devs who are focusing on theming, roming, coloring etc, but things wich really sucks are so far beyond attentiion. So now, i can say.. i love my S2, for the display, speed, shape, 1 gb ram, 16 int.sd, but i hate it, hate Samsung for that in "the best sold result phone" put Yamaha chip not Wolfston like in the old brother S I. So give me some hope, anybody. Pls.
Well if you have as you say read the threads and posts with better sound tips then no one can help.
Faulty phone ??? Crap music ???
Im little bit disappoined with devs who are focusing on theming, roming, coloring
Its a hobby they dont get paid for its their choice probably most of them are happy with the sound i am . You can always put up a bounty for sound improvements .
$1000 for a starter .
My phone with stock player stock headphones and all music on AAC+ format compared to my Sony MP3 player fairly equal but quality slightly better via Sony in ear phones or Sennheiser headphones .
On initial test SGS 1 was only slightly better than SGS2 .
jje
Software changes can't fix hardware problems.
Use Poweramp as a player and get yourself a decent portable head phone amp, it's all you can do for the phone but it really helps.
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Software changes can't fix hardware problems.
Use Poweramp as a player and get yourself a decent portable head phone amp, it's all you can do for the phone but it really helps.
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yeah I'm currently using PowerAmp with a set of Klipsch S4i's, rather satisfied with the quality...
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Thx guys for posts, i use poweramp, tried Equalizer, Volume+, DSPManager as well and everytime sound is crappy and its not clear as on ex. HD2 my recent phone. There is no comparison with Galaxy S at all.
My headphones are not so bad i mean Nuforce NE700X.
However in " preliminary audio .. " thread i mentioned about sponsoring/donating devs about new drivers for Yamaha DAC or smth familiar voodoo sound in S2 but without any responce.
arkadius41 said:
Thx guys for posts, i use poweramp, tried Equalizer, Volume+, DSPManager as well and everytime sound is crappy and with clear as on ex. HD2 my recent phone. There is no comparison with Galaxy S at all.
My headphones are not so bad i mean Nuforce NE700X.
However in " preliminary audio .. " thread i mentioned about sponsoring/donating devs about new drivers for Yamaha DAC or smth familiar voodoo sound in S2 but without any responce.
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We've said it in the other thread, but the DAC isn't the primary problem it's the headphone amp. But for some reason everyone wants to focus on the DAC as the issue.
Someone could write a miracle DAC driver and this phone will still sound like crap because of the headphone output section blows.
Do yourself a favor and plug into someone's half decent headphone amp and you'll understand what I'm talking about.
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We've said it in the other thread, but the DAC isn't the primary problem it's the headphone amp. But for some reason everyone wants to focus on the DAC as the issue.
Someone could write a miracle DAC driver and this phone will still sound like crap because of the headphone output section blows.
Do yourself a favor and plug into someone's half decent headphone amp and you'll understand what I'm talking about.
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I doubt most people know what's a headphone amp anyway.
Let's point them to Head-Fi and start their journey of audio bliss and financial bankruptcy

Poor Headphone Audio Quality on Desire HD

Hey everyone,
i know there have been a lot of threads about the poor audio quality of the speaker. While it is not perfect, i can live with the quality revolution HD brings.
But when i use my earphones/headphones, i always notice how bad the Desire HD performs when playing music. Even when i compare the quality to a cheap MP3-Player, it doesnt sound good.
Can someone explain why the quality is so bad and if there is any way to improve the audio quality?
My Ideas would be:
-Bluetooth Audio adapter (but then again it is wireless, can't really be better)
-get a micro-usb to 3.5mm adapter (wouldnt help probably)
Any Ideas?
well, the DHD isn't famous for it's audio quality... there is nothing you can do about that.
it's probably related to a cheap sound chip used in the dhd.
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Just how "bad" quality are you talking about? Currently I'm using Nokia BH-503 and I'm pretty much satisfied with it. Good bass, clarity and range. It may not be the best, but "good" enough.
well, i use it as my default music player as well and it doesnt perform miserably, but whenever i connect my 150$ earphones, i always feel underwhelmed.
The highs just don't perform well, they lack a certain clarity. They sound a bit like tin cans
strange. i have the best audio quality on headset of all mp3 player i ever had with my DHD. i am still astonished how decent it is.
all of my friends have confirmed this.
At least DHD is far better than cheap MP3 player. But from where I am, I can't judge directly your claim. But you could use person near you to judge it. Ask if the sounds are truly bad as you said. Better if you could find another DHD for comparison. If it is the same, it seems that you set your standards a bit too high. No offense.
Strange to see this thread^^ I think the audio quality of the dhd is superb. I've been using an iPod for the last years and the quality is about the same i guess in normal mode. But when i enable SRS its like another level. I hear details on my tracks that i didn't even knew where there before.
So i really can't give any complaints. But anyway about 80% of the music quality comes from your headphones. I'm using stage in ears from shure because I'm a musician, and those headphones are much better than the average 30 bucks ones.
well, i recently noticed this when listening to a sony MP3-Player. When Comparing it to an LG P990, i also found the quality to be a bit clearer on the LG.
The SRS Sound does make it a little punchier, but it doesn't really fix the sound quality in my opinion.
I installed Volume Ace which gives you full control of all volume settings and I also have an app called Equalizer installed which, yes allows you to set various profiles/presets of music including bass, reverb, spacializer, echo etc etc. My DHD has SUPERB sound with this. If you use the stock music app it even switches profiles automatically provided the mp3 has the metadata for genre of music etc. I use Mortplayer which is now available for Android and I used it on WinMob too. It is THE best music player imho. I also use the HTC bluetooth headset and the sound quality is equally good with rich bass etc etc.
I use Moboplayer for movies/videos and the sound is equally superb. I am not sure what problem your device might have?
i will give the equalizer app a try, will report back whether i am more satisfied with the sound then.
UPDATE: The sound does seem quite a bit better when i use the equlalizer, thanks for that!
Well just wait for the new HTC devices with integrated dre beats audio
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Well just wait for the new HTC devices with integrated dre beats audio
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Dre? As in the c...rapper? I refuse to have that Name associated with my phone. hehehehe
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i use a good AKG Headset and the sound is superb... on my DHD
I use Poweramp with these settings (iBeats headphones)
Equaliser preset: Techno (You can try Rock too, I dont listen to these but they offer clean bass and good highs)
Bass knob: About 40%
Treble knob: About 55%
Tone: Enabled
DHD: SRS Enhancement
Try it, its better than anything else I've seen on basically any other device.
I totally agree,
The HTC in comparison to different ipods and MP3 players is not in the same league.
Even the power is much lower on the HTC...
Currently i'm using iPod for my music (for the "real" music), along with the DHD for ...m.... calling ?
Gentlemen, lets not generalize. The DHD might not be on par with iPods/iPhones.
But that doesn't mean whole HTC is not on par. Example, my HD2 sounds better than my gf ipod, but that might be the music player (android ginger) tweaks.
Another example, on the world of smartphones, the olddy HTC Kaiser has one of the better speakerphones, i haven't seen nothing better (except some old nokias like the ngage 1st gen, yet this one usually would burn the speaker)
So, though the sound might not be that good, i rather have a phone that plays good sound, than a phone and a mp3 player. Honestly, most my musics are on FLAC, so any mp3 player would sound bad to me. No... i'm not a audophile. I don't have a better ear than anyother, but i can see difference between a 320kbps mp3 and any flac.
I have found that audio quality is very poor through the HTC supplied headset, but through my personal headphones really good, plus the ARHD ROM adds some volume and aswell to the sound.
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Hey everyone,
i know there have been a lot of threads about the poor audio quality of the speaker. While it is not perfect, i can live with the quality revolution HD brings.
But when i use my earphones/headphones, i always notice how bad the Desire HD performs when playing music. Even when i compare the quality to a cheap MP3-Player, it doesnt sound good.
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I'm curious if you're using the stock ROM (that came with your phone) or a custom one (CyanogenMod, MIUI, etc.)
I'm on Miui.us ROM and my audio through headphones is quite clear, if rather loud.
I am using ARHD.
With the Beats Audio add-on it seems quite a lot better (the highs don't oversteer that much anymore).
My DHD performs quite correctly in the matter of sound !!
Check out the radio updates, roms and softwares
They can change a lot already

[Q] Loss of audio quality on custom roms

Hi, first time android owner here. I recently switched to the CM nightly builds, which I am loving, however I have noticed the audio quality has dropped of dramatically since switching from the standard oppo fw. Now I am streaming my music from google play which AFAIK was unaffected by the dolby sound and the dirac audio features of the oppo ROM. Is this something that should be expected? Its bad enough that Id rather not listen to music at all. Also is there a possibility of porting the audio features of the standard Oppo ROM to the current CM builds?
At this point I think id rather use a buggy, less functional oppo rom with great sound quality and that just sucks:crying:
I'm a music lover and have pretty good ears, I really like cm10.1 and other roms but the reason I left it (besides being a beta tester) is because of lag that happens after a few hours and also because of the issue with audio quality. Yeah it looses quality. Oh and camera quality as well
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I haven't noticed much of a drop in quality, but I didn't stay on stock for long. Maybe I'll switch back to stock on the next beta and see what the audio and camera are like. I have no camera on my current ROM.
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I should mention I'm also streaming over blue tooth when making this comparison.
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osmosizzz said:
I'm a music lover and have pretty good ears, I really like cm10.1 and other roms but the reason I left it (besides being a beta tester) is because of lag that happens after a few hours and also because of the issue with audio quality. Yeah it looses quality. Oh and camera quality as well
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Well didi you try to listen music with different earphones ? Shipped earphones can only work ith dirac "ON".
I tryed to use Oppo earphones on HTC and they sounds poor. Also I found poor sounding Find 5 with HTC beats audio earphones.
If you find some conclusion pls let me know, because I'm not willing to use custom rom ..... for now. :victory:
THX
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And do you think that oppo has a better audio than htc or with the beats EQ the One is better ? Maybe with using some good headphones like AKG sennheiser etc...
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I have had both HTC One X, and the Droid DNA and I think Oppo sounds better. I don't know about the New HTC One with Boom-Sound though?
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And do you think that oppo has a better audio than htc or with the beats EQ the One is better ? Maybe with using some good headphones like AKG sennheiser etc...
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Oppo is champ !!! But they(OPPO & DIRAC) made calibration with shipped earphones.
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
I am big audiopile and so far there was no phone to listen music on.
http://www.cabasse.com/cabfx2012/ba...ic-on-wall-baltic-on-base-santorin-30?lang=en
I own a pair :victory:
whynotbgd said:
Oppo is champ !!! But they(OPPO & DIRAC) made calibration with shipped earphones.
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
I am big audiopile and so far there was no phone to listen music on.
http://www.cabasse.com/cabfx2012/ba...ic-on-wall-baltic-on-base-santorin-30?lang=en
I own a pair :victory:
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Completely agree. Dirac sounds horrible with anything other than the stock earphones.
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Completely agree. Dirac sounds horrible with anything other than the stock earphones.
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Sounds like Dirac is nothing more than marketing bull**** to describe an EQ preset that works around crummy earphones... Kinda like HTC's Beats Audio (which is just a crappy EQ preset too).
No No No
Entropy512 said:
Sounds like Dirac is nothing more than marketing bull**** to describe an EQ preset that works around crummy earphones... Kinda like HTC's Beats Audio (which is just a crappy EQ preset too).
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It's not bull.... and for sure this is not just an EQ preset like HTCs Beats Audio.
Most of brands use branded cost effective solution (EQ based) to impress customers but Oppo does not.
DIRAC correct phase to firms up the bass, removes resonances, focuses the stereo image and makes voices stand out like you never have heard them before.
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It's not bull.... and for sure this is not just an EQ preset like HTCs Beats Audio.
Most of brands use branded cost effective solution (EQ based) to impress customers but Oppo does not.
DIRAC correct phase to firms up the bass, removes resonances, focuses the stereo image and makes voices stand out like you never have heard them before.
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All marketing mumbojumbo for "cheesy postprocessing and/or lame EQ preset"
The fact that it only works to "fix" Oppo's cheap earbuds is a clear sign that it is just an EQ preset designed to compensate for the deficiencies of cheap earbuds.
All of the research I've read indicates that DIRAC serves to do only one thing: Compensate for cheapo earbuds to make them sound better. It will make good earbuds/earphones sound like crap, and is unncessary with them.
When you can get Monoprice 9927s for <$10:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10823&cs_id=1082303&p_id=9927&seq=1&format=2
http://lifehacker.com/5991079/monoprice-improves-on-the-best-7-headphones-youll-ever-buy
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-headphones-under-30/
And Comply foam replacement tips for $15:
http://www.complyfoam.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Comply-T-400-Isolation-Earphone-Medium/dp/B002NUJ2RM/ (for the non-waxguard version, waxguard is $20 for three pairs)
It's pointless to waste time working around crappy cheap OEM buds.
Edit: In general, Comply foam tips are one of the best "bang for your buck" upgrades for any earbud (except ones that already have foam tips)
Yeah, honestly, this crap is like the same BS they pull with Pixel count in cell cameras.
I have some very nice Westone buds that sound amazing on any phone I've had. Turn off all the garbage and you get yourself a hell of an audio experience. These guys feel like they have to provide some audio gem in name because these bloody devices are phones, not good quality audio gear. If you want to bump your audio experience, go get a portable amp and melt your brain.
The Oppo and CM sound great. Only need I have for the DSP is to tweak the sound of the speaker for voice calls.
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
crackalac87 said:
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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I have had no issues with Bluetooth with my Sony bluetooth headset.
Google completely replaced the entire Bluetooth stack with 4.2
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Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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I used to have the s3 and apt x enables headphones and the sound quality is just on another level! Standard bluetooth SBC suports stereo up to 345kbps but idk why, for the most part, they end up sounding bad in most cases. Apt-x lets better audio pass though with minimal compression.
read these two wikies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
now for dirac, it may just be an eq thing but idk. speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great. With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much. IDk what oppo has done, butif there is no specific hardware thing within the phone that is activated with any rom, then i guess it;s an eq thing? anyone correct me if im wrong
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I used to have the s3 and apt x enables headphones and the sound quality is just on another level! Standard bluetooth SBC suports stereo up to 345kbps but idk why, for the most part, they end up sounding bad in most cases. Apt-x lets better audio pass though with minimal compression.
read these two wikies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
now for dirac, it may just be an eq thing but idk. speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great. With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much. IDk what oppo has done, butif there is no specific hardware thing within the phone that is activated with any rom, then i guess it;s an eq thing? anyone correct me if im wrong
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I'm positive it's an EQ thing. Might be able to achieve similar results by playing with DSP Manager
I feel like the audio quality improved on the external speaker with cm10.1
osmosizzz said:
speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great.
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I'm positive it's an EQ thing. Might be able to achieve similar results by playing with DSP Manager
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I'm having big battery issues with my Galaxy S2 and was considering the switch to the Find5, the good sound quality being one of the strongest argument for me so the fact that Dirac is only an EQ to compensate crappy earbuds is kinda bumping me out
A long long time ago I used to listen to music on a iAudio X5 / Shure E4g combo, with great quality (the integrated EQ helped, but still wow, great sound). Now I'm on the GS2, and it's fine with a pair of Ultimate Ears 400vi but I'm not coming back to crappy earbuds, so if the only plus of the Find5 in the audio corner besides the speaker is an EQ then I guess I'll have to wait until the next big cheap thing
What do you think? Considering Oppo opened its sources from the start is it possible that the sound capabilities of the stock rom get ported to other roms like CM?
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With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much?
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How does it work on CM? Gotta test that right away on my S2
You definitely have to play with v4a until you get the right sound for you. And sound settings varies from headphone to headphone
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May be an eq thing but stock ROM produces better sound and louder volume. Bass is also stronger on stock ROM.
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whynotbgd said:
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
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took your statement and did a test myself on stock rom and on firefly (international) , found some good music and hooked up the stock headset in the find 5, sounds great with DIRAC , as you said, then switched headset after have playing music in a periode, then tested with DIRAC enabled on my beats audio headset (stock from htc sensation xl), and sound was still really good, not much diffrent, only beats had more bass , but that headset is also a inear headset, which usually gives more bass.
Then just today, after flashing a codefireXperimental rom, as name say, not released at all, and then tested both headsets again, this time, ofc without DIRAC, but nothing else, no audio mods at all. and stock headset is a little bit more bad in cfxp than in stock with DIRAC, but not at all as in other custom roms ive tried. then switched to beats headset, very little diffrent here, from stock rom with DIRAC and now in custom rom.
After all, i think that audio quality ,cant only be blamed at DIRAC , if you look in this link , its pretty impressive who uses DIRAC, so im sure its not crap only
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Shipped earphones can only work ith dirac "ON".
Also I found poor sounding Find 5 with HTC beats audio earphones.
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Thats not true, it works fine without DIRAC enabled, and after testing my own beats headset with dirac and without in custom roms, i dont hear at all that the sound is more bad with Dirac than it is without, infact i like the audio more with my find 5 and beats audio, even in cfxp, than i do with beats audio on my htc sensation xl.

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